Properly licensing Office 2003

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We have a Windows 2003 Server running TS and 10 thin-clients connect
to it. We have installed a new copy of Office 2003 (in install mode)
on the Terminal Server and plan to provide Word, Excel to the thin-
clients that login to the TS.

1. How do we properly license the MS Office for this -ie, how many &
purchase/part information.

2. Where are those licenses installed?

Thanks
 
RE: Properly licensing Office 2003

You'd need 10 Microsoft Office Licenses, and they are not installed anywhere.
You just need the volume license from a Value Added Reseller. The consumer
editions of Office 2007 can't even be installed on TS, as they require Volume
License Media, which is purchased as a separate SKU from the license.

Businesses should not purchase or use shrinkwrapped box software, as you get
charged for the box and get no volume discount.


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Patrick C. Rouse
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
SE, West Coast USA & Canada
Quest Software, Provision Networks Division
Virtual Client Solutions
http://www.provisionnetworks.com


"compsosinc@gmail.com" wrote:

> We have a Windows 2003 Server running TS and 10 thin-clients connect
> to it. We have installed a new copy of Office 2003 (in install mode)
> on the Terminal Server and plan to provide Word, Excel to the thin-
> clients that login to the TS.
>
> 1. How do we properly license the MS Office for this -ie, how many &
> purchase/part information.
>
> 2. Where are those licenses installed?
>
> Thanks
>
 
Re: Properly licensing Office 2003

Office is licensed per device which is used to run Office, whether
Office is installed locally or accessed in a TS session.
So with 10 thin clients running Office in a TS session, you need 10
Office licenses. You just buy them, you don't install them.

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

compsosinc@gmail.com wrote on 07 feb 2008 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> We have a Windows 2003 Server running TS and 10 thin-clients
> connect to it. We have installed a new copy of Office 2003 (in
> install mode) on the Terminal Server and plan to provide Word,
> Excel to the thin- clients that login to the TS.
>
> 1. How do we properly license the MS Office for this -ie, how
> many & purchase/part information.
>
> 2. Where are those licenses installed?
>
> Thanks
 
Re: Properly licensing Office 2003

On Feb 7, 3:35 pm, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
> Office is licensed per device which is used to run Office, whether
> Office is installed locally or accessed in a TS session.
> So with 10 thin clients running Office in a TS session, you need 10
> Office licenses. You just buy them, you don't install them.
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> compsos...@gmail.com wrote on 07 feb 2008 in
> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
>
>
> > We have a Windows 2003 Server running TS and 10 thin-clients
> > connect to it. We have installed a new copy of Office 2003 (in
> > install mode) on the Terminal Server and plan to provide Word,
> > Excel to the thin- clients that login to the TS.
>
> > 1. How do we properly license the MS Office for this -ie, how
> > many & purchase/part information.
>
> > 2. Where are those licenses installed?
>
> > Thanks- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

So, it sounds that Office 2003 will work regardless if they are
purchased?! I did some research, but did not see anything related to
it not working if they were not purchased.
Thanks
 
Re: Properly licensing Office 2003

You will be violating the EULA if you don't buy the proper amount
of licenses. That's going to be painful when you get audited.
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

compsosinc@gmail.com wrote on 07 feb 2008 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> On Feb 7, 3:35 pm, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
> this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
>> Office is licensed per device which is used to run Office,
>> whether Office is installed locally or accessed in a TS
>> session. So with 10 thin clients running Office in a TS
>> session, you need 10 Office licenses. You just buy them, you
>> don't install them.
>>
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Vera Noest
>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>>
>> compsos...@gmail.com wrote on 07 feb 2008 in
>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>
>> > We have a Windows 2003 Server running TS and 10 thin-clients
>> > connect to it. We have installed a new copy of Office 2003
>> > (in install mode) on the Terminal Server and plan to provide
>> > Word, Excel to the thin- clients that login to the TS.
>>
>> > 1. How do we properly license the MS Office for this -ie, how
>> > many & purchase/part information.
>>
>> > 2. Where are those licenses installed?
>>
>> > Thanks- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> So, it sounds that Office 2003 will work regardless if they are
> purchased?! I did some research, but did not see anything
> related to it not working if they were not purchased.
> Thanks
 
Re: Properly licensing Office 2003

On Feb 7, 5:22 pm, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
> You will be violating the EULA if you don't buy the proper amount
> of licenses. That's going to be painful when you get audited.
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> compsos...@gmail.com wrote on 07 feb 2008 in
> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 7, 3:35 pm, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
> > this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
> >> Office is licensed per device which is used to run Office,
> >> whether Office is installed locally or accessed in a TS
> >> session. So with 10 thin clients running Office in a TS
> >> session, you need 10 Office licenses. You just buy them, you
> >> don't install them.
>
> >> _________________________________________________________
> >> Vera Noest
> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >> TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> >> compsos...@gmail.com wrote on 07 feb 2008 in
> >> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
> >> > We have a Windows 2003 Server running TS and 10 thin-clients
> >> > connect to it. We have installed a new copy of Office 2003
> >> > (in install mode) on the Terminal Server and plan to provide
> >> > Word, Excel to the thin- clients that login to the TS.
>
> >> > 1. How do we properly license the MS Office for this -ie, how
> >> > many & purchase/part information.
>
> >> > 2. Where are those licenses installed?
>
> >> > Thanks- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > So, it sounds that Office 2003 will work regardless if they are
> > purchased?! I did some research, but did not see anything
> > related to it not working if they were not purchased.
> > Thanks- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ok. This is actually for a customer of ours and they do not intend to
violate the EULA. I just found it odd that it would be this easy for a
company to do so so I thought I had incomplete implementation
information.

From my research, it looks like this has changed in Office 2007?

Thanks again.
 
Re: Properly licensing Office 2003

AFAIK, the only thing that's enforced with Office 2007 is that you
need Offices licenses obtained through the Microsoft Volume
Licensing Program. Retail (full packaged product) and original
equipment manufacturer (OEM) licenses for products released in the
2007 release timeframe do not permit network use.

You still have to make sure yourself that you buy the correct
number of licenses.

Here's the documentation:

Licensing of Microsoft Desktop Application Software for Use with
Windows Server Terminal Services
http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/7/7/17745e4a-5d31-4de4-
a416-
07c646336d94/desktop_application_with_windows_server_terminal_servi
ces.doc
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

compsosinc@gmail.com wrote on 08 feb 2008 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> On Feb 7, 5:22 pm, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
> this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
>> You will be violating the EULA if you don't buy the proper
>> amount of licenses. That's going to be painful when you get
>> audited.
>> _________________________________________________________ Vera
>> Noest MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>>
>> compsos...@gmail.com wrote on 07 feb 2008 in
>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 7, 3:35 pm, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
>> > this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
>> >> Office is licensed per device which is used to run Office,
>> >> whether Office is installed locally or accessed in a TS
>> >> session. So with 10 thin clients running Office in a TS
>> >> session, you need 10 Office licenses. You just buy them, you
>> >> don't install them.
>>
>> >> _________________________________________________________
>> >> Vera Noest
>> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> >> TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
>> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>>
>> >> compsos...@gmail.com wrote on 07 feb 2008 in
>> >> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>
>> >> > We have a Windows 2003 Server running TS and 10
>> >> > thin-clients connect to it. We have installed a new copy
>> >> > of Office 2003 (in install mode) on the Terminal Server
>> >> > and plan to provide Word, Excel to the thin- clients that
>> >> > login to the TS.
>>
>> >> > 1. How do we properly license the MS Office for this -ie,
>> >> > how many & purchase/part information.
>>
>> >> > 2. Where are those licenses installed?
>>
>> >> > Thanks- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > So, it sounds that Office 2003 will work regardless if they
>> > are purchased?! I did some research, but did not see anything
>> > related to it not working if they were not purchased.
>> > Thanks- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Ok. This is actually for a customer of ours and they do not
> intend to violate the EULA. I just found it odd that it would be
> this easy for a company to do so so I thought I had incomplete
> implementation information.
>
> From my research, it looks like this has changed in Office 2007?
>
> Thanks again.
 
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