Re: disk defragmentor
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
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>I see. It's obviously so, it must be so, therefore it is so.
>
> I asked you for real data and you give me pure speculation. I have no wish
> to engage in speculation, though for your sake I hope an expert comes
> along and gives you a good discussion.
>
I am 'expert' enough thank you.
OK real data for you.
1. I have defragged before and I took the time to make a
a note of the time taken for certain operations, boot up
etc.... Result no noticable difference, infact it even took longer
to boot up, there was no performance benefit whatsoever.
*Infact* if anything my machine was slower.
So there is one piece of real data.
2. Goto step 1.
Quite remarkable, you won't find any facts or figure for the performance
increase from a defrag from the sellers of defrag software.
I did not one produce had a * after performance increase, eg
performance increase*
*performance increase may be unpredictable.
Which is a nice way of covering it from being sued when it makes no
difference
or infact gets worse, I assume the 'unpredictability range' includes
negative increases.
http://www.smartcomputing.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles/2007/s1807/19s07/19s07.asp
"However, a recent study by Diskeeper Corporation (
www.diskeeper.com) found
that a brand-new computer with a fresh installation of WinXP can boot about
27% faster after running a basic disk defragmentation."
Hmmm...an 'independant' study by a company selling defrag software!!
And what an interesting study it is, because a brand new computer will of
course
be already defragged in the first place!!
Anyway defragging is a waste of time, I know that from experience as I have
done
it a few times myself on a different machine, performance is either worse or
it makes
no difference. And it's a big let down when you find you wasted all that
time for no effect,
it will seem slower even if it is the same because the performance increase
you expected
won't be there.
Of course you computer will tend to get slower over time but that is
generally because
you have more stuff installed on it, and the only way to cure that is to
uninstall it.
So....it ain't broke so I ain't fixing it :O)
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
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>>>>>>"Pepperoni" <Pepperoni@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>> My disk defragmetor keeps running in a loop and I have tried
>>>>>>> everything i
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> and nothing seems to be working. So, if you have any help to offer
>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>> tell me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Defragging is a waste of time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Balderdash.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fragmented files will be slower to load, and if they are badly
>>>>> fragmented the slowdown can be crippling. Not too long ago I
>>>>> encountered a system where their master database (inventory - file
>>>>> size approximately 100 megabytes) was in over 10 thousand fragments
>>>>> and the users were complaining about slow performance. One simple
>>>>> defrag (took several hours) and the speedup was tremendous. They
>>>>> now have a scheduled task to defrag the file weekly.
>>>>
>>>> I don't believe that for a minute.
>>>> Defragging actually slows a computer down.
>>>
>>> Balderdash.
>>>
>>>> Obviusly a system lacking in drive space and memory is going to be
>>>> slow, but you need to upgrade not defrag.
>>>
>>> You're talking about an entirely different subject, there.
>>>
>>>> Another benefit of regular defragging is hard drive failure, how
>>>> lovely,
>>>> lost your entire database , yum yum.
>>>
>>> Got any references there? Actual tests?
>>
>> Wears out your hard drive.
>> I mean that is pretty self evident isn't it?
>> It's a bit lilke driving 5,000 miles in your car every week and expecting
>> it
>> to last 5 years - it's not going to happen.These are mechanical devices
>> and hence wear out. I my self have never had a drive failure as I treat
>> mine
>> with respect. Several hours of hard thrashing takes it toll. The bearing
>> don't
>> get time to cool down and fail.
>>
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>>> Gary S. Terhune
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>>> www.grystmill.com
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