Windows needs to be activated before you can logon.

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Hey there. I have a problem that has been bugging me since I got my
internet back (I spent almost 3 months without internet and a week ago
I got my internet back). My Windows XP is activated and Genuine. But
the next day it said I had to activate windows before I could login. I
clicked ok and it said: Your copy of Windows is already activated. And
so I had to reinstall Windows. Thought it would be some kind of error,
so I installed Windows XP, everything was ok, activated and all... And
some time later, it showed the same error. I'm getting tired of having
to reinstall all my applications and backup everything I have without
even being able to do anything...

The computer forbids me to login unless I activate, and when I try to,
it says I'm already activated...

Do you know anything that might be causing this? Or what I can do
against it? I believe that soon enough the limit of activations using
my serial key will go to an end, so I can't continue doing this...

Thanks in advance, Bruno.
 
Re: Windows needs to be activated before you can logon.

Bruno De Barros wrote:
> Hey there. I have a problem that has been bugging me since I got my
> internet back (I spent almost 3 months without internet and a week ago
> I got my internet back). My Windows XP is activated and Genuine. But
> the next day it said I had to activate windows before I could login. I
> clicked ok and it said: Your copy of Windows is already activated. And
> so I had to reinstall Windows. Thought it would be some kind of error,
> so I installed Windows XP, everything was ok, activated and all... And
> some time later, it showed the same error. I'm getting tired of having
> to reinstall all my applications and backup everything I have without
> even being able to do anything...
>
> The computer forbids me to login unless I activate, and when I try to,
> it says I'm already activated...
>
> Do you know anything that might be causing this? Or what I can do
> against it? I believe that soon enough the limit of activations using
> my serial key will go to an end, so I can't continue doing this...
>
> Thanks in advance, Bruno.

You need to use phone activation and grovel to the activation desks in
India if, indeed, you can what with the Internet cables to India
recently being cut.

If you're tired of this crap, check out Ubuntu at www.ubuntu.com No
activation, no becoming "genuine" and you can install it on as many
computers as you like. Not only that, it's free and comes with access to
over 23,000 free programs. As far as viruses and malware, compared to
Windows of any flavor, it's bullet proof.

Alias
 
Re: Windows needs to be activated before you can logon.

On Feb 10, 11:52 am, Alias <iamal...@removethisgmail.com> wrote:
> Bruno De Barros wrote:
> > Hey there. I have a problem that has been bugging me since I got my
> > internet back (I spent almost 3 months without internet and a week ago
> > I got my internet back). My Windows XP is activated and Genuine. But
> > the next day it said I had to activate windows before I could login. I
> > clicked ok and it said: Your copy of Windows is already activated. And
> > so I had to reinstall Windows. Thought it would be some kind of error,
> > so I installed Windows XP, everything was ok, activated and all... And
> > some time later, it showed the same error. I'm getting tired of having
> > to reinstall all my applications and backup everything I have without
> > even being able to do anything...
>
> > The computer forbids me to login unless I activate, and when I try to,
> > it says I'm already activated...
>
> > Do you know anything that might be causing this? Or what I can do
> > against it? I believe that soon enough the limit of activations using
> > my serial key will go to an end, so I can't continue doing this...
>
> > Thanks in advance, Bruno.
>
> You need to use phone activation and grovel to the activation desks in
> India if, indeed, you can what with the Internet cables to India
> recently being cut.
>
> If you're tired of this crap, check out Ubuntu atwww.ubuntu.comNo
> activation, no becoming "genuine" and you can install it on as many
> computers as you like. Not only that, it's free and comes with access to
> over 23,000 free programs. As far as viruses and malware, compared to
> Windows of any flavor, it's bullet proof.
>
> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You're trying to sell something I already bought ;). I love Ubuntu,
and Linux of all kinds. I just can't use it instead of Windows because
this is my mother's computer and my little brothers'. So their games
and apps don't run on Linux (believe me, I tried, even with Wine), and
that's why I can't go to Linux on this computer.

And you have a real talent for selling ideas, the way you spoke about
Ubuntu would make anyone go wow if they didn't know it.
 
Re: Windows needs to be activated before you can logon.

Bruno De Barros wrote:
> On Feb 10, 11:52 am, Alias <iamal...@removethisgmail.com> wrote:
>> Bruno De Barros wrote:
>>> Hey there. I have a problem that has been bugging me since I got my
>>> internet back (I spent almost 3 months without internet and a week ago
>>> I got my internet back). My Windows XP is activated and Genuine. But
>>> the next day it said I had to activate windows before I could login. I
>>> clicked ok and it said: Your copy of Windows is already activated. And
>>> so I had to reinstall Windows. Thought it would be some kind of error,
>>> so I installed Windows XP, everything was ok, activated and all... And
>>> some time later, it showed the same error. I'm getting tired of having
>>> to reinstall all my applications and backup everything I have without
>>> even being able to do anything...
>>> The computer forbids me to login unless I activate, and when I try to,
>>> it says I'm already activated...
>>> Do you know anything that might be causing this? Or what I can do
>>> against it? I believe that soon enough the limit of activations using
>>> my serial key will go to an end, so I can't continue doing this...
>>> Thanks in advance, Bruno.
>> You need to use phone activation and grovel to the activation desks in
>> India if, indeed, you can what with the Internet cables to India
>> recently being cut.
>>
>> If you're tired of this crap, check out Ubuntu atwww.ubuntu.comNo
>> activation, no becoming "genuine" and you can install it on as many
>> computers as you like. Not only that, it's free and comes with access to
>> over 23,000 free programs. As far as viruses and malware, compared to
>> Windows of any flavor, it's bullet proof.
>>
>> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> You're trying to sell something I already bought ;). I love Ubuntu,
> and Linux of all kinds. I just can't use it instead of Windows because
> this is my mother's computer and my little brothers'. So their games
> and apps don't run on Linux (believe me, I tried, even with Wine), and
> that's why I can't go to Linux on this computer.
>
> And you have a real talent for selling ideas, the way you spoke about
> Ubuntu would make anyone go wow if they didn't know it.

I guess you're stuck with Ye Olde Phone Activation then. It's true, the
toy operating system called Windows is better than Linux for games. I
have a dual boot and only use XP for gaming and Outlook. When Evolution
*evolves* to the point that Outlook is at, that will leave only games
for my XP installations.

Alias
 
Re: Windows needs to be activated before you can logon.

On Feb 10, 1:00 pm, Alias <iamal...@removethisgmail.com> wrote:
> Bruno De Barros wrote:
> > On Feb 10, 11:52 am, Alias <iamal...@removethisgmail.com> wrote:
> >> Bruno De Barros wrote:
> >>> Hey there. I have a problem that has been bugging me since I got my
> >>> internet back (I spent almost 3 months without internet and a week ago
> >>> I got my internet back). My Windows XP is activated and Genuine. But
> >>> the next day it said I had to activate windows before I could login. I
> >>> clicked ok and it said: Your copy of Windows is already activated. And
> >>> so I had to reinstall Windows. Thought it would be some kind of error,
> >>> so I installed Windows XP, everything was ok, activated and all... And
> >>> some time later, it showed the same error. I'm getting tired of having
> >>> to reinstall all my applications and backup everything I have without
> >>> even being able to do anything...
> >>> The computer forbids me to login unless I activate, and when I try to,
> >>> it says I'm already activated...
> >>> Do you know anything that might be causing this? Or what I can do
> >>> against it? I believe that soon enough the limit of activations using
> >>> my serial key will go to an end, so I can't continue doing this...
> >>> Thanks in advance, Bruno.
> >> You need to use phone activation and grovel to the activation desks in
> >> India if, indeed, you can what with the Internet cables to India
> >> recently being cut.
>
> >> If you're tired of this crap, check out Ubuntu atwww.ubuntu.comNo
> >> activation, no becoming "genuine" and you can install it on as many
> >> computers as you like. Not only that, it's free and comes with access to
> >> over 23,000 free programs. As far as viruses and malware, compared to
> >> Windows of any flavor, it's bullet proof.
>
> >> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > You're trying to sell something I already bought ;). I love Ubuntu,
> > and Linux of all kinds. I just can't use it instead of Windows because
> > this is my mother's computer and my little brothers'. So their games
> > and apps don't run on Linux (believe me, I tried, even with Wine), and
> > that's why I can't go to Linux on this computer.
>
> > And you have a real talent for selling ideas, the way you spoke about
> > Ubuntu would make anyone go wow if they didn't know it.
>
> I guess you're stuck with Ye Olde Phone Activation then. It's true, the
> toy operating system called Windows is better than Linux for games. I
> have a dual boot and only use XP for gaming and Outlook. When Evolution
> *evolves* to the point that Outlook is at, that will leave only games
> for my XP installations.
>
> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

But I activate my Windows! It's genuinely activated! When I try to
activate again (when it says I won't login without being activated),
it says "Windows is already activated."!

And why not use Thunderbird? Never used Outlook before, but I think
Mozilla Thunderbird is a fine email client. I use it all the time. (oh
yeah, it doesn't support Hotmail mails easily... i tried to once, but
it was a pain in the * you know where * ...)
 
Re: Windows needs to be activated before you can logon.

Bruno De Barros wrote:
> On Feb 10, 1:00 pm, Alias <iamal...@removethisgmail.com> wrote:
>> Bruno De Barros wrote:
>>> On Feb 10, 11:52 am, Alias <iamal...@removethisgmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Bruno De Barros wrote:
>>>>> Hey there. I have a problem that has been bugging me since I got my
>>>>> internet back (I spent almost 3 months without internet and a week ago
>>>>> I got my internet back). My Windows XP is activated and Genuine. But
>>>>> the next day it said I had to activate windows before I could login. I
>>>>> clicked ok and it said: Your copy of Windows is already activated. And
>>>>> so I had to reinstall Windows. Thought it would be some kind of error,
>>>>> so I installed Windows XP, everything was ok, activated and all... And
>>>>> some time later, it showed the same error. I'm getting tired of having
>>>>> to reinstall all my applications and backup everything I have without
>>>>> even being able to do anything...
>>>>> The computer forbids me to login unless I activate, and when I try to,
>>>>> it says I'm already activated...
>>>>> Do you know anything that might be causing this? Or what I can do
>>>>> against it? I believe that soon enough the limit of activations using
>>>>> my serial key will go to an end, so I can't continue doing this...
>>>>> Thanks in advance, Bruno.
>>>> You need to use phone activation and grovel to the activation desks in
>>>> India if, indeed, you can what with the Internet cables to India
>>>> recently being cut.
>>>> If you're tired of this crap, check out Ubuntu atwww.ubuntu.comNo
>>>> activation, no becoming "genuine" and you can install it on as many
>>>> computers as you like. Not only that, it's free and comes with access to
>>>> over 23,000 free programs. As far as viruses and malware, compared to
>>>> Windows of any flavor, it's bullet proof.
>>>> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> You're trying to sell something I already bought ;). I love Ubuntu,
>>> and Linux of all kinds. I just can't use it instead of Windows because
>>> this is my mother's computer and my little brothers'. So their games
>>> and apps don't run on Linux (believe me, I tried, even with Wine), and
>>> that's why I can't go to Linux on this computer.
>>> And you have a real talent for selling ideas, the way you spoke about
>>> Ubuntu would make anyone go wow if they didn't know it.
>> I guess you're stuck with Ye Olde Phone Activation then. It's true, the
>> toy operating system called Windows is better than Linux for games. I
>> have a dual boot and only use XP for gaming and Outlook. When Evolution
>> *evolves* to the point that Outlook is at, that will leave only games
>> for my XP installations.
>>
>> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> But I activate my Windows! It's genuinely activated! When I try to
> activate again (when it says I won't login without being activated),
> it says "Windows is already activated."!
>
> And why not use Thunderbird? Never used Outlook before, but I think
> Mozilla Thunderbird is a fine email client. I use it all the time. (oh
> yeah, it doesn't support Hotmail mails easily... i tried to once, but
> it was a pain in the * you know where * ...)

I need the signature feature of Outlook and Evolution. Evolution doesn't
support HTML email very well.

I don't use Hotmail.

Alias
 
Re: Windows needs to be activated before you can logon.

On Feb 10, 1:18 pm, Alias <iamal...@removethisgmail.com> wrote:
> Bruno De Barros wrote:
> > On Feb 10, 1:00 pm, Alias <iamal...@removethisgmail.com> wrote:
> >> Bruno De Barros wrote:
> >>> On Feb 10, 11:52 am, Alias <iamal...@removethisgmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Bruno De Barros wrote:
> >>>>> Hey there. I have a problem that has been bugging me since I got my
> >>>>> internet back (I spent almost 3 months without internet and a week ago
> >>>>> I got my internet back). My Windows XP is activated and Genuine. But
> >>>>> the next day it said I had to activate windows before I could login. I
> >>>>> clicked ok and it said: Your copy of Windows is already activated. And
> >>>>> so I had to reinstall Windows. Thought it would be some kind of error,
> >>>>> so I installed Windows XP, everything was ok, activated and all... And
> >>>>> some time later, it showed the same error. I'm getting tired of having
> >>>>> to reinstall all my applications and backup everything I have without
> >>>>> even being able to do anything...
> >>>>> The computer forbids me to login unless I activate, and when I try to,
> >>>>> it says I'm already activated...
> >>>>> Do you know anything that might be causing this? Or what I can do
> >>>>> against it? I believe that soon enough the limit of activations using
> >>>>> my serial key will go to an end, so I can't continue doing this...
> >>>>> Thanks in advance, Bruno.
> >>>> You need to use phone activation and grovel to the activation desks in
> >>>> India if, indeed, you can what with the Internet cables to India
> >>>> recently being cut.
> >>>> If you're tired of this crap, check out Ubuntu atwww.ubuntu.comNo
> >>>> activation, no becoming "genuine" and you can install it on as many
> >>>> computers as you like. Not only that, it's free and comes with access to
> >>>> over 23,000 free programs. As far as viruses and malware, compared to
> >>>> Windows of any flavor, it's bullet proof.
> >>>> Alias- Hide quoted text -
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>> You're trying to sell something I already bought ;). I love Ubuntu,
> >>> and Linux of all kinds. I just can't use it instead of Windows because
> >>> this is my mother's computer and my little brothers'. So their games
> >>> and apps don't run on Linux (believe me, I tried, even with Wine), and
> >>> that's why I can't go to Linux on this computer.
> >>> And you have a real talent for selling ideas, the way you spoke about
> >>> Ubuntu would make anyone go wow if they didn't know it.
> >> I guess you're stuck with Ye Olde Phone Activation then. It's true, the
> >> toy operating system called Windows is better than Linux for games. I
> >> have a dual boot and only use XP for gaming and Outlook. When Evolution
> >> *evolves* to the point that Outlook is at, that will leave only games
> >> for my XP installations.
>
> >> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > But I activate my Windows! It's genuinely activated! When I try to
> > activate again (when it says I won't login without being activated),
> > it says "Windows is already activated."!
>
> > And why not use Thunderbird? Never used Outlook before, but I think
> > Mozilla Thunderbird is a fine email client. I use it all the time. (oh
> > yeah, it doesn't support Hotmail mails easily... i tried to once, but
> > it was a pain in the * you know where * ...)
>
> I need the signature feature of Outlook and Evolution. Evolution doesn't
> support HTML email very well.
>
> I don't use Hotmail.
>
> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I thought Thunderbird supported signatures (unless you are speaking of
digital signatures, which I don't know if they are supported or not).
 
Re: Windows needs to be activated before you can logon.

Bruno De Barros wrote:
> On Feb 10, 1:18 pm, Alias <iamal...@removethisgmail.com> wrote:
>> Bruno De Barros wrote:
>>> On Feb 10, 1:00 pm, Alias <iamal...@removethisgmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Bruno De Barros wrote:
>>>>> On Feb 10, 11:52 am, Alias <iamal...@removethisgmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Bruno De Barros wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey there. I have a problem that has been bugging me since I got my
>>>>>>> internet back (I spent almost 3 months without internet and a week ago
>>>>>>> I got my internet back). My Windows XP is activated and Genuine. But
>>>>>>> the next day it said I had to activate windows before I could login. I
>>>>>>> clicked ok and it said: Your copy of Windows is already activated. And
>>>>>>> so I had to reinstall Windows. Thought it would be some kind of error,
>>>>>>> so I installed Windows XP, everything was ok, activated and all... And
>>>>>>> some time later, it showed the same error. I'm getting tired of having
>>>>>>> to reinstall all my applications and backup everything I have without
>>>>>>> even being able to do anything...
>>>>>>> The computer forbids me to login unless I activate, and when I try to,
>>>>>>> it says I'm already activated...
>>>>>>> Do you know anything that might be causing this? Or what I can do
>>>>>>> against it? I believe that soon enough the limit of activations using
>>>>>>> my serial key will go to an end, so I can't continue doing this...
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance, Bruno.
>>>>>> You need to use phone activation and grovel to the activation desks in
>>>>>> India if, indeed, you can what with the Internet cables to India
>>>>>> recently being cut.
>>>>>> If you're tired of this crap, check out Ubuntu atwww.ubuntu.comNo
>>>>>> activation, no becoming "genuine" and you can install it on as many
>>>>>> computers as you like. Not only that, it's free and comes with access to
>>>>>> over 23,000 free programs. As far as viruses and malware, compared to
>>>>>> Windows of any flavor, it's bullet proof.
>>>>>> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>> You're trying to sell something I already bought ;). I love Ubuntu,
>>>>> and Linux of all kinds. I just can't use it instead of Windows because
>>>>> this is my mother's computer and my little brothers'. So their games
>>>>> and apps don't run on Linux (believe me, I tried, even with Wine), and
>>>>> that's why I can't go to Linux on this computer.
>>>>> And you have a real talent for selling ideas, the way you spoke about
>>>>> Ubuntu would make anyone go wow if they didn't know it.
>>>> I guess you're stuck with Ye Olde Phone Activation then. It's true, the
>>>> toy operating system called Windows is better than Linux for games. I
>>>> have a dual boot and only use XP for gaming and Outlook. When Evolution
>>>> *evolves* to the point that Outlook is at, that will leave only games
>>>> for my XP installations.
>>>> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> But I activate my Windows! It's genuinely activated! When I try to
>>> activate again (when it says I won't login without being activated),
>>> it says "Windows is already activated."!
>>> And why not use Thunderbird? Never used Outlook before, but I think
>>> Mozilla Thunderbird is a fine email client. I use it all the time. (oh
>>> yeah, it doesn't support Hotmail mails easily... i tried to once, but
>>> it was a pain in the * you know where * ...)
>> I need the signature feature of Outlook and Evolution. Evolution doesn't
>> support HTML email very well.
>>
>> I don't use Hotmail.
>>
>> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I thought Thunderbird supported signatures (unless you are speaking of
> digital signatures, which I don't know if they are supported or not).

It does but only one signature per email account, not multiple
signatures for all accounts like Outlook and Evolution do. I use the
signatures for form letters that I send over and over again.

Alias
 
Re: Windows needs to be activated before you can logon.

Please follow this simple troubleshooting procedure, courtesy of MS MVP
Carey Frisch:

1. Download and install the WGA Diagnostic Tool
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=56062

2. After running the WGA Diagnostic Tool, click on the "Windows" tab and
then click on "Copy to Clipboard".

3. Next, visit the following website and create a post in the "WGA
Validation Problems" forum and paste the results of the WGA Diagnostic Data
in a detailed post:
http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/default.aspx?SiteID=25

4. A WGA troubleshooting specialist will analyze the data and recommend an
appropriate solution.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Bruno De Barros wrote:
> Hey there. I have a problem that has been bugging me since I got my
> internet back (I spent almost 3 months without internet and a week ago
> I got my internet back). My Windows XP is activated and Genuine. But
> the next day it said I had to activate windows before I could login. I
> clicked ok and it said: Your copy of Windows is already activated. And
> so I had to reinstall Windows. Thought it would be some kind of error,
> so I installed Windows XP, everything was ok, activated and all... And
> some time later, it showed the same error. I'm getting tired of having
> to reinstall all my applications and backup everything I have without
> even being able to do anything...
>
> The computer forbids me to login unless I activate, and when I try to,
> it says I'm already activated...
>
> Do you know anything that might be causing this? Or what I can do
> against it? I believe that soon enough the limit of activations using
> my serial key will go to an end, so I can't continue doing this...
>
> Thanks in advance, Bruno.
 
Re: Windows needs to be activated before you can logon.

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> Please follow this simple troubleshooting procedure, courtesy of MS MVP
> Carey Frisch:
>
> 1. Download and install the WGA Diagnostic Tool
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=56062
>
> 2. After running the WGA Diagnostic Tool, click on the "Windows" tab and
> then click on "Copy to Clipboard".
>
> 3. Next, visit the following website and create a post in the "WGA
> Validation Problems" forum and paste the results of the WGA Diagnostic
> Data in a detailed post:
> http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/default.aspx?SiteID=25
>
> 4. A WGA troubleshooting specialist will analyze the data and recommend
> an appropriate solution.

And why should a paying customer have to jump through these hoops to
prove, once again, that they paid for the software? Why should a paying
customer have to suffer for the flawed WGA software?

For those who are considering Vista: it's gotten worse.

Alias
 
Re: Windows needs to be activated before you can logon.

None of us here can do anything about that. You need to let MS know your
feelings about activation.

"Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
news:eMp4caAbIHA.5768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>> Please follow this simple troubleshooting procedure, courtesy of MS MVP
>> Carey Frisch:
>>
>> 1. Download and install the WGA Diagnostic Tool
>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=56062
>>
>> 2. After running the WGA Diagnostic Tool, click on the "Windows" tab and
>> then click on "Copy to Clipboard".
>>
>> 3. Next, visit the following website and create a post in the "WGA
>> Validation Problems" forum and paste the results of the WGA Diagnostic
>> Data in a detailed post:
>> http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/default.aspx?SiteID=25
>>
>> 4. A WGA troubleshooting specialist will analyze the data and recommend
>> an appropriate solution.
>
> And why should a paying customer have to jump through these hoops to
> prove, once again, that they paid for the software? Why should a paying
> customer have to suffer for the flawed WGA software?
>
> For those who are considering Vista: it's gotten worse.
>
> Alias
 
Re: Windows needs to be activated before you can logon.

Colin Barnhorst wrote:
> None of us here can do anything about that. You need to let MS know
> your feelings about activation.

I have, with my wallet (the only thing MS understands). Now if others
would do the same ... you could do something about it.

Alias
>
> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eMp4caAbIHA.5768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>>> Please follow this simple troubleshooting procedure, courtesy of MS
>>> MVP Carey Frisch:
>>>
>>> 1. Download and install the WGA Diagnostic Tool
>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=56062
>>>
>>> 2. After running the WGA Diagnostic Tool, click on the "Windows" tab
>>> and then click on "Copy to Clipboard".
>>>
>>> 3. Next, visit the following website and create a post in the "WGA
>>> Validation Problems" forum and paste the results of the WGA
>>> Diagnostic Data in a detailed post:
>>> http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/default.aspx?SiteID=25
>>>
>>> 4. A WGA troubleshooting specialist will analyze the data and
>>> recommend an appropriate solution.
>>
>> And why should a paying customer have to jump through these hoops to
>> prove, once again, that they paid for the software? Why should a
>> paying customer have to suffer for the flawed WGA software?
>>
>> For those who are considering Vista: it's gotten worse.
>>
>> Alias
>
 
Re: Windows needs to be activated before you can logon.

Alias wrote:
> And why should a paying customer have to jump through these hoops to
> prove, once again, that they paid for the software? Why should a
> paying customer have to suffer for the flawed WGA software?
>

For the same reason someone is asked by the usher for their ticket stub or
you have to show your chit to pick up your cleaning.

There are people out there who try to sneak in the movies or steal other
people's clothes.

It's inconvenient to go through 'phone activation, true. But it's an
inconvenience forced upon us by those who want a free operating system.

Face it, the only reason for the growth of Linux and it's clones - all the
way up to almost 1% - is because people don't want to pay for intellectual
property.
 
Re: Windows needs to be activated before you can logon.

HeyBub wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> And why should a paying customer have to jump through these hoops to
>> prove, once again, that they paid for the software? Why should a
>> paying customer have to suffer for the flawed WGA software?
>>
>
> For the same reason someone is asked by the usher for their ticket stub or
> you have to show your chit to pick up your cleaning.
>
> There are people out there who try to sneak in the movies or steal other
> people's clothes.
>
> It's inconvenient to go through 'phone activation, true. But it's an
> inconvenience forced upon us by those who want a free operating system.
>
> Face it, the only reason for the growth of Linux and it's clones - all the
> way up to almost 1% - is because people don't want to pay for intellectual
> property.

No, the reasons are control and greed. Not wanting to pay for something
and not liking having to go through WGA over and over again are not
necessarily connected, your snide attempt at shooting the messenger
notwithstanding.

Alias
 
Re: Windows needs to be activated before you can logon.

> > There are people out there who try to sneak in the movies or steal other
> > people's clothes.
>
> > It's inconvenient to go through 'phone activation, true. But it's an
> > inconvenience forced upon us by those who want a free operating system.

That is true...

> > Face it, the only reason for the growth of Linux and it's clones - all the
> > way up to almost 1% - is because people don't want to pay for intellectual
> > property.

Although I like Linux and Windows (I have double personality on this
case, if you say anything bad to windows i'll protect it, if you say
bad to linux i'll protect it), I admit... The best feature advertised
on Linux is not security, power, stability (although they are so far
the best on that, else servers wouldn't use it), it is the price.
$0.00. To quote here what has been said on this topic:

> If you're tired of this crap, check out Ubuntu at www.ubuntu.com No
> activation, no becoming "genuine" and you can install it on as many
> computers as you like. Not only that, it's free and comes with access to
> over 23,000 free programs. As far as viruses and malware, compared to
> Windows of any flavor, it's bullet proof.

Yep, no genuine and no activation, because it's free.
Also, if you do an app for Linux, odds are it will be free.
No viruses and malware? I know that's one big statement, and that it
is true... But according to statistics given on this topic...

QUOTE: way up to almost 1%

Would you, if you were a hacker and wanted to create a virus (or
malware of any kind) for general purpose (no specific target, only the
maximum persons possible), would you create it for 1% of everybody (in
which those 1% is mostly servers, which take security far more
seriously than the common "What's an Operating System? I don't know."
Windows user, or for the others (90%??? I don't know for sure) that
use Windows?

That's another point to be noticed on Linux. The average user knows
more about security and protecting his own Operating System. He knows
how to compile apps to suit his PC, he knows how to create binaries
out of source code and get his own dependencies to get a certain app
up and running. I know this by personal experience because when I
started using Ubuntu, I wanted to install some drivers i had found for
linux and the thing was extremely harder than I thought. Back then I
knew nothing about working with shell or anything.

On a world of users that would give their passwords for a candybar
(source: Apress Pro PHP Security), it's not

> No, the reasons are control and greed. Not wanting to pay for something
> and not liking having to go through WGA over and over again are not
> necessarily connected, your snide attempt at shooting the messenger
> notwithstanding.

You are still right, but the WGA is not the only flawed activation
thingy. Look at apple's iPhone. They destroyed several legal iPhones
when they wanted to forbid people who were unlocking them to every
network. It's just the life of people who want to make money out of
their work... Is that asking much? One thing is selling a pizza,
there's no activation, no cracking of the pizza, no way to reproduce
it and give it away freely. The other thing is software, which float
freely through the whole world, go from the USA to South Africa in a
couple of minutes/hours (depending on the net sped) and be cracked to
be used and reproduced without paying for it.
 
Re: Windows needs to be activated before you can logon.

Sorry, I failed to finish my sentence

On a world of users that would give their passwords for a candybar
(source: Apress Pro PHP Security), it's no wonder Windows is so bad in
security levels... When users install crappy toolbars filled with
viruses and can't even work their way on an installation, it's
impossible to have a secure system. Security can't be done alone.
 
Re: Windows needs to be activated before you can logon.

Bruno De Barros wrote:
>>> There are people out there who try to sneak in the movies or steal other
>>> people's clothes.
>>> It's inconvenient to go through 'phone activation, true. But it's an
>>> inconvenience forced upon us by those who want a free operating system.
>
> That is true...
>
>>> Face it, the only reason for the growth of Linux and it's clones - all the
>>> way up to almost 1% - is because people don't want to pay for intellectual
>>> property.
>
> Although I like Linux and Windows (I have double personality on this
> case, if you say anything bad to windows i'll protect it, if you say
> bad to linux i'll protect it), I admit... The best feature advertised
> on Linux is not security, power, stability (although they are so far
> the best on that, else servers wouldn't use it), it is the price.
> $0.00. To quote here what has been said on this topic:
>
>> If you're tired of this crap, check out Ubuntu at www.ubuntu.com No
>> activation, no becoming "genuine" and you can install it on as many
>> computers as you like. Not only that, it's free and comes with access to
>> over 23,000 free programs. As far as viruses and malware, compared to
>> Windows of any flavor, it's bullet proof.
>
> Yep, no genuine and no activation, because it's free.
> Also, if you do an app for Linux, odds are it will be free.
> No viruses and malware? I know that's one big statement, and that it
> is true... But according to statistics given on this topic...
>
> QUOTE: way up to almost 1%
>
> Would you, if you were a hacker and wanted to create a virus (or
> malware of any kind) for general purpose (no specific target, only the
> maximum persons possible), would you create it for 1% of everybody (in
> which those 1% is mostly servers, which take security far more
> seriously than the common "What's an Operating System? I don't know."
> Windows user, or for the others (90%??? I don't know for sure) that
> use Windows?
>
> That's another point to be noticed on Linux. The average user knows
> more about security and protecting his own Operating System. He knows
> how to compile apps to suit his PC, he knows how to create binaries
> out of source code and get his own dependencies to get a certain app
> up and running. I know this by personal experience because when I
> started using Ubuntu, I wanted to install some drivers i had found for
> linux and the thing was extremely harder than I thought. Back then I
> knew nothing about working with shell or anything.
>
> On a world of users that would give their passwords for a candybar
> (source: Apress Pro PHP Security), it's not
>
>> No, the reasons are control and greed. Not wanting to pay for something
>> and not liking having to go through WGA over and over again are not
>> necessarily connected, your snide attempt at shooting the messenger
>> notwithstanding.
>
> You are still right, but the WGA is not the only flawed activation
> thingy. Look at apple's iPhone. They destroyed several legal iPhones
> when they wanted to forbid people who were unlocking them to every
> network. It's just the life of people who want to make money out of
> their work... Is that asking much? One thing is selling a pizza,
> there's no activation, no cracking of the pizza, no way to reproduce
> it and give it away freely. The other thing is software, which float
> freely through the whole world, go from the USA to South Africa in a
> couple of minutes/hours (depending on the net sped) and be cracked to
> be used and reproduced without paying for it.

According to your and others' "logic", Microsoft would have never made
any money until XP when, in reality, pre XP Windows and Office made them
Billions and Billions of dollars and made their CEO the richest man in
the world. Moral of the story: most people are either honest or buy a
computer with Windows preinstalled. Again, WGA does nothing to stem
piracy and only inconveniences the paying customer.

Alias
 
Re: Windows needs to be activated before you can logon.

On Feb 11, 11:49 am, Alias <iamal...@removethisgmail.com> wrote:
>
> According to your and others' "logic", Microsoft would have never made
> any money until XP when, in reality, pre XP Windows and Office made them
> Billions and Billions of dollars and made their CEO the richest man in
> the world. Moral of the story: most people are either honest or buy a
> computer with Windows preinstalled. Again, WGA does nothing to stem
> piracy and only inconveniences the paying customer.

Why my logic? What did I say wrong? You just quoted my whole post in
which I had stated different opinions.

And you are right, it does nothing to stop piracy, I know a dozen ways
to crack it (for educational purposes) and it's really a mess for
everybody. In fact, that's why this topic was really created... to
solve a problem a legitimate customer has and has done nothing wrong
to be punished for.
 
Re: Windows needs to be activated before you can logon.

Bruno De Barros wrote:
> On Feb 11, 11:49 am, Alias <iamal...@removethisgmail.com> wrote:
>> According to your and others' "logic", Microsoft would have never made
>> any money until XP when, in reality, pre XP Windows and Office made them
>> Billions and Billions of dollars and made their CEO the richest man in
>> the world. Moral of the story: most people are either honest or buy a
>> computer with Windows preinstalled. Again, WGA does nothing to stem
>> piracy and only inconveniences the paying customer.
>
> Why my logic? What did I say wrong? You just quoted my whole post in
> which I had stated different opinions.
>
> And you are right, it does nothing to stop piracy, I know a dozen ways
> to crack it (for educational purposes) and it's really a mess for
> everybody. In fact, that's why this topic was really created... to
> solve a problem a legitimate customer has and has done nothing wrong
> to be punished for.

Sorry, my bad, I didn't mean you but those who support the WGA crap and
use the tired "the pirates made them do it" when greed and control makes
them do it.

Alias
 

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