Windows 2000 Licensing

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Hi Guys

In the Purchase History tab on my Domain Controller I noticed the following.

Product Quantity
MS Exchange 2003 30

Yet when I navigate to the Product View Tab I notice the following, with a
warning icon next to each product

Product Per Seat Purchased
Per Seat Allocated Per Server Reached
MS Exchange 2003 30
31 -65
MS Windows 2000 Server 0
57 -30

How do I rectify these warning issues and allocate the correct numbers for
each product.

Also note that the Application log is logging the following error:

Event Id: 202
Source: License Server
The product Windows Server is out of licenses. Use Licese Manager from the
Administrative Tools folder for more information on which users are out of
compliance and how many licenses should be purchased.

Thanks
 
RE: Windows 2000 Licensing

Hey,

In Server 2000, the licensing service is usually more trouble than its
worth. Usually, people will disable the service, but this only works if you
are not running Terminal Services in application mode.

You have to have valid licenses and documentation of them all, but running
the service is not a requirement.
--
Ryan Hanisco
MCSE, MCTS: SQL 2005, Project+
http://www.techsterity.com
Chicago, IL

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"Microsoft Newbie" wrote:

> Hi Guys
>
> In the Purchase History tab on my Domain Controller I noticed the following.
>
> Product Quantity
> MS Exchange 2003 30
>
> Yet when I navigate to the Product View Tab I notice the following, with a
> warning icon next to each product
>
> Product Per Seat Purchased
> Per Seat Allocated Per Server Reached
> MS Exchange 2003 30
> 31 -65
> MS Windows 2000 Server 0
> 57 -30
>
> How do I rectify these warning issues and allocate the correct numbers for
> each product.
>
> Also note that the Application log is logging the following error:
>
> Event Id: 202
> Source: License Server
> The product Windows Server is out of licenses. Use Licese Manager from the
> Administrative Tools folder for more information on which users are out of
> compliance and how many licenses should be purchased.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
 
Re: Windows 2000 Licensing

Ryan Hanisco wrote:
> Hey,
>
> In Server 2000, the licensing service is usually more trouble than its
> worth. Usually, people will disable the service, but this only works if you
> are not running Terminal Services in application mode.
>
> You have to have valid licenses and documentation of them all, but running
> the service is not a requirement.

I think you are mixing apples and oranges. On the Windows 2000 server
(TS or not), everyone disables the licensing service. This is *supposed*
to control the licenses to access to the server (non-TS). It doesn't work.

With Terminal Services, you need a Terminal Services License Server.
This manages the TSCAL licenses. These are dirreferent that tne CALs
needed to run Server 2000. It is *MANDATORY* if you are running a server
in TS Application Mode.

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services
 
Re: Windows 2000 Licensing

Hi Hank,

You are right that Licensing and TS licensing are not the same thing. I
remember being in a situation where I was getting errors from the TS
Licensing service that were not resolved until it could locate the windows
licensing service on the bax. Maybe this is a red herring, but that made me
think that there might be a dependency there.

I will admit that it is possible that this a coincidence as there were a lot
of other things in the mix there too. ADMT consolidation, Citrix, and a DC
replacement.

Cheers,
--
Ryan Hanisco
MCSE, MCTS: SQL 2005, Project+
http://www.techsterity.com
Chicago, IL

Remember: Marking helpful answers helps everyone find the info they need
quickly.


"Hank Arnold (MVP)" wrote:

> Ryan Hanisco wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > In Server 2000, the licensing service is usually more trouble than its
> > worth. Usually, people will disable the service, but this only works if you
> > are not running Terminal Services in application mode.
> >
> > You have to have valid licenses and documentation of them all, but running
> > the service is not a requirement.
>
> I think you are mixing apples and oranges. On the Windows 2000 server
> (TS or not), everyone disables the licensing service. This is *supposed*
> to control the licenses to access to the server (non-TS). It doesn't work.
>
> With Terminal Services, you need a Terminal Services License Server.
> This manages the TSCAL licenses. These are dirreferent that tne CALs
> needed to run Server 2000. It is *MANDATORY* if you are running a server
> in TS Application Mode.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Hank Arnold
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Server - Directory Services
>
 
Re: Windows 2000 Licensing

As a follow up.... since I couldn't find these earlier. So looks like no
dependency is really there, though it does explain why I was seeing messages
in the log. Thanks! I love learning.

From the services guide:

License Logging Service - tracks Client Access License usage for server
products, such as IIS, Terminal Services, and File and Print services, as
well as other products such as SQL Server and Microsoft Exchange Server. If
disabled, licensing for these programs will work properly, but usage will no
longer be tracked.

Terminal Services Licensing - installs a license server and provides
registered client licenses when connecting to a Terminal Server. The Terminal
Services License Service is a low-impact service that stores the client
licenses that have been issued for a Terminal server and tracks the licenses
that have been issued to client computers or terminals. If this service is
turned off, the server will be unavailable to issue Terminal Server licenses
to clients when they are requested. If another License Server is discoverable
on a DC in the forest, the requesting Terminal Server will attempt to use it.
See also Terminal Services.
--
Ryan Hanisco
MCSE, MCTS: SQL 2005, Project+
http://www.techsterity.com
Chicago, IL

Remember: Marking helpful answers helps everyone find the info they need
quickly.


"Hank Arnold (MVP)" wrote:

> Ryan Hanisco wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > In Server 2000, the licensing service is usually more trouble than its
> > worth. Usually, people will disable the service, but this only works if you
> > are not running Terminal Services in application mode.
> >
> > You have to have valid licenses and documentation of them all, but running
> > the service is not a requirement.
>
> I think you are mixing apples and oranges. On the Windows 2000 server
> (TS or not), everyone disables the licensing service. This is *supposed*
> to control the licenses to access to the server (non-TS). It doesn't work.
>
> With Terminal Services, you need a Terminal Services License Server.
> This manages the TSCAL licenses. These are dirreferent that tne CALs
> needed to run Server 2000. It is *MANDATORY* if you are running a server
> in TS Application Mode.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Hank Arnold
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Server - Directory Services
>
 
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