Upgrading to 64-bit Vista

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I currently have 32-bit Home Premium. I'm just wondering what my options are
for upgrading to a 64-bit version of either Home Premium or Ultimate. Any
and all information would be appreciated.

Thanks!
 
Re: Upgrading to 64-bit Vista

Careful... you're liable to make some people go into frantic convulsions
using the word "upgrade" and 64-bit in the same sentence.

Basically, the conversion from 32-bit to 64-bit is a clean install.
There are no "direct" paths to "upgrade" and MS made this one of the most
difficult adventures out there unless you purchased the full version of
Vista.
Heed the phrase: "64-bit is not for everyone."

Your current product key is good for both 32-bit and 64-bit, but you can
only have one of the two installed with one key.

Your worst option:
Upgrading to Business or Ultimate down the road using Windows Anytime
Upgrade.
It will require you to install XP Pro, then 64-bit Home Premium, then
Ultimate. (A real pain.)
If you think you will ever move up to Ultimate, just buy it: Upgrade or
Full version.
I can tell you lots of stories on this if you really want to hear it.

So, depending on whether you have a full version of Home Premium or an
upgrade version:
Upgrade disk:
First you have to purchase the "alternate media" disk from MS for $7 -
$10.
You will have to wipe Vista HP from your hard drive, re-install XP Pro
SP2 and then "upgrade" (clean install) Vista HP 64-bit.
Note: XP Pro will not need to be activated, so it doesn't matter if
you've "killed" the license at some point.

Full version:
First you have to purchase the "alternate media" disk from MS for $7 -
$10.
Then you can clean install Vista HP 64-bit.

How to get the alternate media:
Go to microsoft.com and type alternate media in the search box.
Or go here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/2057/ordermedia/default.mspx

Installation instructions:
A good review of this article is important:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

While most will warn you that you should check that all your hardware is
supported by x64, Vista is very robust in the area. The hard part is
installation. Once installed, it runs better (IMO) than 32-bit.


"Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:2FFD5E24-5921-48C8-B58A-5B0B02543E04@microsoft.com...
>I currently have 32-bit Home Premium. I'm just wondering what my options
>are
> for upgrading to a 64-bit version of either Home Premium or Ultimate. Any
> and all information would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
 
Re: Upgrading to 64-bit Vista

If you got Home Premium pre-installed on your computer, you have an OEM
version, almost certainly. With OEM versions, you can't change from 32-bit
to 64-bit without buying a whole new version. If you bought a retail copy of
Vista, you can get the 64-bit DVD for a nominal fee directly from MS and
install it.

There is not "upgrade" path, however. You need to do a fresh, clean install.
You can, however, use Windows Easy Transfer to preserve most of your current
settings with the new installation.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:2FFD5E24-5921-48C8-B58A-5B0B02543E04@microsoft.com...
>I currently have 32-bit Home Premium. I'm just wondering what my options
>are
> for upgrading to a 64-bit version of either Home Premium or Ultimate. Any
> and all information would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
 
Re: Upgrading to 64-bit Vista

I prefer the term "migration." Conversion is reminiscent of converting the
filesystem.

"Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:BD5EE05A-8FA6-4748-AD64-4AA967FCE578@microsoft.com...
> Careful... you're liable to make some people go into frantic convulsions
> using the word "upgrade" and 64-bit in the same sentence.
>
> Basically, the conversion from 32-bit to 64-bit is a clean install.
> There are no "direct" paths to "upgrade" and MS made this one of the most
> difficult adventures out there unless you purchased the full version of
> Vista.
> Heed the phrase: "64-bit is not for everyone."
>
> Your current product key is good for both 32-bit and 64-bit, but you can
> only have one of the two installed with one key.
>
> Your worst option:
> Upgrading to Business or Ultimate down the road using Windows Anytime
> Upgrade.
> It will require you to install XP Pro, then 64-bit Home Premium, then
> Ultimate. (A real pain.)
> If you think you will ever move up to Ultimate, just buy it: Upgrade or
> Full version.
> I can tell you lots of stories on this if you really want to hear it.
>
> So, depending on whether you have a full version of Home Premium or an
> upgrade version:
> Upgrade disk:
> First you have to purchase the "alternate media" disk from MS for $7 -
> $10.
> You will have to wipe Vista HP from your hard drive, re-install XP Pro
> SP2 and then "upgrade" (clean install) Vista HP 64-bit.
> Note: XP Pro will not need to be activated, so it doesn't matter if
> you've "killed" the license at some point.
>
> Full version:
> First you have to purchase the "alternate media" disk from MS for $7 -
> $10.
> Then you can clean install Vista HP 64-bit.
>
> How to get the alternate media:
> Go to microsoft.com and type alternate media in the search box.
> Or go here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/2057/ordermedia/default.mspx
>
> Installation instructions:
> A good review of this article is important:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/
>
> While most will warn you that you should check that all your hardware is
> supported by x64, Vista is very robust in the area. The hard part is
> installation. Once installed, it runs better (IMO) than 32-bit.
>
>
> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:2FFD5E24-5921-48C8-B58A-5B0B02543E04@microsoft.com...
>>I currently have 32-bit Home Premium. I'm just wondering what my options
>>are
>> for upgrading to a 64-bit version of either Home Premium or Ultimate.
>> Any
>> and all information would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks!
>
 
RE: Upgrading to 64-bit Vista


Ok, thanks everyone! The 64-bit media content thing always confused me.
The website made it sound like the CD simply contained 64-bit apps and not
the actual 64-bit OS.

Thanks once again, $7-$10 bucks is a heck of a lot cheaper than what I was
imagining.
 
Re: Upgrading to 64-bit Vista

Don't miss Charlie's comment!
If you have OEM installed, you're stuck with buying the full version to get
to 64-bit.

"Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:7577DEE4-5F27-4C8A-94C5-79A294B0365C@microsoft.com...
>
> Ok, thanks everyone! The 64-bit media content thing always confused me.
> The website made it sound like the CD simply contained 64-bit apps and not
> the actual 64-bit OS.
>
> Thanks once again, $7-$10 bucks is a heck of a lot cheaper than what I was
> imagining.
 
Re: Upgrading to 64-bit Vista

Thankfully I build my own PCs and bought the Retail version.

Thanks again!

"Mark" wrote:

> Don't miss Charlie's comment!
> If you have OEM installed, you're stuck with buying the full version to get
> to 64-bit.
>
> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:7577DEE4-5F27-4C8A-94C5-79A294B0365C@microsoft.com...
> >
> > Ok, thanks everyone! The 64-bit media content thing always confused me.
> > The website made it sound like the CD simply contained 64-bit apps and not
> > the actual 64-bit OS.
> >
> > Thanks once again, $7-$10 bucks is a heck of a lot cheaper than what I was
> > imagining.
>
 
Re: Upgrading to 64-bit Vista

On a side-note:

If I buy the Home Premium to Ultimate upgrade, can I do a clean install from
the upgrade DVD of Ultimate 64-bit?
 
Re: Upgrading to 64-bit Vista

See the instructions in my first response.

If you go with an upgrade disk, you will have to install WinXP Pro or 2000
to "upgrade", then insert the the 64-bit dvid and do a custom install.
This is a clean install. Use the product key you get with the upgrade disk.

"Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:F0B51BD9-2C13-41DD-B088-342C02AB0783@microsoft.com...
> On a side-note:
>
> If I buy the Home Premium to Ultimate upgrade, can I do a clean install
> from
> the upgrade DVD of Ultimate 64-bit?
 
Re: Upgrading to 64-bit Vista

So, there is no means of moving from 32-bit Home Premium to 64-bit Ultimate
without buying a full retail version of Ultimate.

That's really my goal here, I'd like to move up to 64-bit Ultimate. I just
figured that, seeing as I own a retail copy of Home Premium, I could buy a
DVD that would allow me to do a clean install of 64-bit Ultimate for less
than it would cost me to buy a full retail version.

If I'm reading your comments correctly, then you're saying the "upgrade"
DVDs are only for people who are making a switch from XP/2000 to Vista. And
the people who already own a version of Vista are left out in the cold?
Seems peculiar to me, or it's quite possible that I'm just being really dense
at the moment.

"Mark" wrote:

> See the instructions in my first response.
>
> If you go with an upgrade disk, you will have to install WinXP Pro or 2000
> to "upgrade", then insert the the 64-bit dvid and do a custom install.
> This is a clean install. Use the product key you get with the upgrade disk.
>
> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:F0B51BD9-2C13-41DD-B088-342C02AB0783@microsoft.com...
> > On a side-note:
> >
> > If I buy the Home Premium to Ultimate upgrade, can I do a clean install
> > from
> > the upgrade DVD of Ultimate 64-bit?
>
 
Re: Upgrading to 64-bit Vista

Excellent move. Enjoy x64. The dvd comes in just a few days in spite of
the disclaimer about weeks.

"Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:8E996EF0-540B-498C-A0E6-469A8D816538@microsoft.com...
> Thankfully I build my own PCs and bought the Retail version.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> "Mark" wrote:
>
>> Don't miss Charlie's comment!
>> If you have OEM installed, you're stuck with buying the full version to
>> get
>> to 64-bit.
>>
>> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:7577DEE4-5F27-4C8A-94C5-79A294B0365C@microsoft.com...
>> >
>> > Ok, thanks everyone! The 64-bit media content thing always confused
>> > me.
>> > The website made it sound like the CD simply contained 64-bit apps and
>> > not
>> > the actual 64-bit OS.
>> >
>> > Thanks once again, $7-$10 bucks is a heck of a lot cheaper than what I
>> > was
>> > imagining.
>>
 
Re: Upgrading to 64-bit Vista

You have to buy the Ultimate license and use it with an x64 dvd.

It is the product key which determines which edition gets installed and the
dvd you use determines whether it is 32bit or 64bit.

If you have an upgrade pk for Vista Ultimate and the 64bit dvd you can
migrate from Vista Home Premium x86 to Vista Ultimate x64 at just the cost
of the Vista Ultimate upgrade edition price.

You will boot with the x64 dvd, enter the upgrade edition product key (which
will tell the installer to look over the computer for another copy of
Windows and then install Ultimate), and then choose Custom Install to
complete the installation. In this case, Vista Setup will allow you to do a
clean install if you prefer. The Disk Tools icon will be available since
you booted with the dvd. It does NOT work the same way as it does when
using the 32bit dvd. You will NOT be instructed to run Setup from the
existing Windows desktop.

"Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:012EF87E-0B42-4FD5-BE02-611B1B98E3D8@microsoft.com...
> So, there is no means of moving from 32-bit Home Premium to 64-bit
> Ultimate
> without buying a full retail version of Ultimate.
>
> That's really my goal here, I'd like to move up to 64-bit Ultimate. I
> just
> figured that, seeing as I own a retail copy of Home Premium, I could buy a
> DVD that would allow me to do a clean install of 64-bit Ultimate for less
> than it would cost me to buy a full retail version.
>
> If I'm reading your comments correctly, then you're saying the "upgrade"
> DVDs are only for people who are making a switch from XP/2000 to Vista.
> And
> the people who already own a version of Vista are left out in the cold?
> Seems peculiar to me, or it's quite possible that I'm just being really
> dense
> at the moment.
>
> "Mark" wrote:
>
>> See the instructions in my first response.
>>
>> If you go with an upgrade disk, you will have to install WinXP Pro or
>> 2000
>> to "upgrade", then insert the the 64-bit dvid and do a custom install.
>> This is a clean install. Use the product key you get with the upgrade
>> disk.
>>
>> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:F0B51BD9-2C13-41DD-B088-342C02AB0783@microsoft.com...
>> > On a side-note:
>> >
>> > If I buy the Home Premium to Ultimate upgrade, can I do a clean install
>> > from
>> > the upgrade DVD of Ultimate 64-bit?
>>
 
Re: Upgrading to 64-bit Vista

If I'm not mistaken, doesn't Ultimate DVDs come with both the x86 and x64
editions on the disk? You just only can use the version you have a license
for. If that's the case, then I should be able to just buy the Home Premium
to Ultimate upgrade DVD ($159 I think) .

Or do you have to have the upgrade license and then purchase the x64 media
just like like you would if you were going from HP x86 to x64 (an addition
~$10)?

Thanks!

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> You have to buy the Ultimate license and use it with an x64 dvd.
>
> It is the product key which determines which edition gets installed and the
> dvd you use determines whether it is 32bit or 64bit.
>
> If you have an upgrade pk for Vista Ultimate and the 64bit dvd you can
> migrate from Vista Home Premium x86 to Vista Ultimate x64 at just the cost
> of the Vista Ultimate upgrade edition price.
>
> You will boot with the x64 dvd, enter the upgrade edition product key (which
> will tell the installer to look over the computer for another copy of
> Windows and then install Ultimate), and then choose Custom Install to
> complete the installation. In this case, Vista Setup will allow you to do a
> clean install if you prefer. The Disk Tools icon will be available since
> you booted with the dvd. It does NOT work the same way as it does when
> using the 32bit dvd. You will NOT be instructed to run Setup from the
> existing Windows desktop.
>
> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:012EF87E-0B42-4FD5-BE02-611B1B98E3D8@microsoft.com...
> > So, there is no means of moving from 32-bit Home Premium to 64-bit
> > Ultimate
> > without buying a full retail version of Ultimate.
> >
> > That's really my goal here, I'd like to move up to 64-bit Ultimate. I
> > just
> > figured that, seeing as I own a retail copy of Home Premium, I could buy a
> > DVD that would allow me to do a clean install of 64-bit Ultimate for less
> > than it would cost me to buy a full retail version.
> >
> > If I'm reading your comments correctly, then you're saying the "upgrade"
> > DVDs are only for people who are making a switch from XP/2000 to Vista.
> > And
> > the people who already own a version of Vista are left out in the cold?
> > Seems peculiar to me, or it's quite possible that I'm just being really
> > dense
> > at the moment.
> >
> > "Mark" wrote:
> >
> >> See the instructions in my first response.
> >>
> >> If you go with an upgrade disk, you will have to install WinXP Pro or
> >> 2000
> >> to "upgrade", then insert the the 64-bit dvid and do a custom install.
> >> This is a clean install. Use the product key you get with the upgrade
> >> disk.
> >>
> >> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message news:F0B51BD9-2C13-41DD-B088-342C02AB0783@microsoft.com...
> >> > On a side-note:
> >> >
> >> > If I buy the Home Premium to Ultimate upgrade, can I do a clean install
> >> > from
> >> > the upgrade DVD of Ultimate 64-bit?
> >>
>
 
Re: Upgrading to 64-bit Vista

Only if you buy the full version.
Upgrades do not come with the x64 disk.

"Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:938412C2-D8C4-4D35-8688-CF26F0AE6281@microsoft.com...
> If I'm not mistaken, doesn't Ultimate DVDs come with both the x86 and x64
> editions on the disk? You just only can use the version you have a
> license
> for. If that's the case, then I should be able to just buy the Home
> Premium
> to Ultimate upgrade DVD ($159 I think) .
>
> Or do you have to have the upgrade license and then purchase the x64 media
> just like like you would if you were going from HP x86 to x64 (an addition
> ~$10)?
>
> Thanks!
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> You have to buy the Ultimate license and use it with an x64 dvd.
>>
>> It is the product key which determines which edition gets installed and
>> the
>> dvd you use determines whether it is 32bit or 64bit.
>>
>> If you have an upgrade pk for Vista Ultimate and the 64bit dvd you can
>> migrate from Vista Home Premium x86 to Vista Ultimate x64 at just the
>> cost
>> of the Vista Ultimate upgrade edition price.
>>
>> You will boot with the x64 dvd, enter the upgrade edition product key
>> (which
>> will tell the installer to look over the computer for another copy of
>> Windows and then install Ultimate), and then choose Custom Install to
>> complete the installation. In this case, Vista Setup will allow you to
>> do a
>> clean install if you prefer. The Disk Tools icon will be available since
>> you booted with the dvd. It does NOT work the same way as it does when
>> using the 32bit dvd. You will NOT be instructed to run Setup from the
>> existing Windows desktop.
>>
>> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:012EF87E-0B42-4FD5-BE02-611B1B98E3D8@microsoft.com...
>> > So, there is no means of moving from 32-bit Home Premium to 64-bit
>> > Ultimate
>> > without buying a full retail version of Ultimate.
>> >
>> > That's really my goal here, I'd like to move up to 64-bit Ultimate. I
>> > just
>> > figured that, seeing as I own a retail copy of Home Premium, I could
>> > buy a
>> > DVD that would allow me to do a clean install of 64-bit Ultimate for
>> > less
>> > than it would cost me to buy a full retail version.
>> >
>> > If I'm reading your comments correctly, then you're saying the
>> > "upgrade"
>> > DVDs are only for people who are making a switch from XP/2000 to Vista.
>> > And
>> > the people who already own a version of Vista are left out in the cold?
>> > Seems peculiar to me, or it's quite possible that I'm just being really
>> > dense
>> > at the moment.
>> >
>> > "Mark" wrote:
>> >
>> >> See the instructions in my first response.
>> >>
>> >> If you go with an upgrade disk, you will have to install WinXP Pro or
>> >> 2000
>> >> to "upgrade", then insert the the 64-bit dvid and do a custom install.
>> >> This is a clean install. Use the product key you get with the upgrade
>> >> disk.
>> >>
>> >> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message news:F0B51BD9-2C13-41DD-B088-342C02AB0783@microsoft.com...
>> >> > On a side-note:
>> >> >
>> >> > If I buy the Home Premium to Ultimate upgrade, can I do a clean
>> >> > install
>> >> > from
>> >> > the upgrade DVD of Ultimate 64-bit?
>> >>
>>
 
Re: Upgrading to 64-bit Vista

Retail Ultimate comes with two dvd's. One is x86 and one is x64. For all
other editions you get the x86 dvd and instructions for ordering the x64 dvd
at shipping and handling cost for your region.

All, and I mean all, retail Vista dvd's are the same. All x86 retail dvd's
are the same and all x64 dvd's are the same. There are no upgrade dvd's for
Vista like there are upgrade cd's with XP. The Vista product key alone
makes the difference as to whether you have an upgrade edition or full.

My recommendation is to buy the Vista Ultimate upgrade edition. Personally
I don't like the Anytime Upgrade version because its license is only
tranferable to one new machine. That's a one-time deal. I don't care for
that limitation. The retail version is not limited as to the number of
times it can be transferred to a new machine.

"Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:938412C2-D8C4-4D35-8688-CF26F0AE6281@microsoft.com...
> If I'm not mistaken, doesn't Ultimate DVDs come with both the x86 and x64
> editions on the disk? You just only can use the version you have a
> license
> for. If that's the case, then I should be able to just buy the Home
> Premium
> to Ultimate upgrade DVD ($159 I think) .
>
> Or do you have to have the upgrade license and then purchase the x64 media
> just like like you would if you were going from HP x86 to x64 (an addition
> ~$10)?
>
> Thanks!
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> You have to buy the Ultimate license and use it with an x64 dvd.
>>
>> It is the product key which determines which edition gets installed and
>> the
>> dvd you use determines whether it is 32bit or 64bit.
>>
>> If you have an upgrade pk for Vista Ultimate and the 64bit dvd you can
>> migrate from Vista Home Premium x86 to Vista Ultimate x64 at just the
>> cost
>> of the Vista Ultimate upgrade edition price.
>>
>> You will boot with the x64 dvd, enter the upgrade edition product key
>> (which
>> will tell the installer to look over the computer for another copy of
>> Windows and then install Ultimate), and then choose Custom Install to
>> complete the installation. In this case, Vista Setup will allow you to
>> do a
>> clean install if you prefer. The Disk Tools icon will be available since
>> you booted with the dvd. It does NOT work the same way as it does when
>> using the 32bit dvd. You will NOT be instructed to run Setup from the
>> existing Windows desktop.
>>
>> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:012EF87E-0B42-4FD5-BE02-611B1B98E3D8@microsoft.com...
>> > So, there is no means of moving from 32-bit Home Premium to 64-bit
>> > Ultimate
>> > without buying a full retail version of Ultimate.
>> >
>> > That's really my goal here, I'd like to move up to 64-bit Ultimate. I
>> > just
>> > figured that, seeing as I own a retail copy of Home Premium, I could
>> > buy a
>> > DVD that would allow me to do a clean install of 64-bit Ultimate for
>> > less
>> > than it would cost me to buy a full retail version.
>> >
>> > If I'm reading your comments correctly, then you're saying the
>> > "upgrade"
>> > DVDs are only for people who are making a switch from XP/2000 to Vista.
>> > And
>> > the people who already own a version of Vista are left out in the cold?
>> > Seems peculiar to me, or it's quite possible that I'm just being really
>> > dense
>> > at the moment.
>> >
>> > "Mark" wrote:
>> >
>> >> See the instructions in my first response.
>> >>
>> >> If you go with an upgrade disk, you will have to install WinXP Pro or
>> >> 2000
>> >> to "upgrade", then insert the the 64-bit dvid and do a custom install.
>> >> This is a clean install. Use the product key you get with the upgrade
>> >> disk.
>> >>
>> >> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message news:F0B51BD9-2C13-41DD-B088-342C02AB0783@microsoft.com...
>> >> > On a side-note:
>> >> >
>> >> > If I buy the Home Premium to Ultimate upgrade, can I do a clean
>> >> > install
>> >> > from
>> >> > the upgrade DVD of Ultimate 64-bit?
>> >>
>>
 
Re: Upgrading to 64-bit Vista

So, I buy the Ultimate upgrade edition (not the anytime upgrade)...

What would I have to do from there to gain access to the 64-bit material?

Sorry for being so dense on all of this, I just want to be absolutely sure
I'm buying the right things so I don't end up wasting money.

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> Retail Ultimate comes with two dvd's. One is x86 and one is x64. For all
> other editions you get the x86 dvd and instructions for ordering the x64 dvd
> at shipping and handling cost for your region.
>
> All, and I mean all, retail Vista dvd's are the same. All x86 retail dvd's
> are the same and all x64 dvd's are the same. There are no upgrade dvd's for
> Vista like there are upgrade cd's with XP. The Vista product key alone
> makes the difference as to whether you have an upgrade edition or full.
>
> My recommendation is to buy the Vista Ultimate upgrade edition. Personally
> I don't like the Anytime Upgrade version because its license is only
> tranferable to one new machine. That's a one-time deal. I don't care for
> that limitation. The retail version is not limited as to the number of
> times it can be transferred to a new machine.
>
> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:938412C2-D8C4-4D35-8688-CF26F0AE6281@microsoft.com...
> > If I'm not mistaken, doesn't Ultimate DVDs come with both the x86 and x64
> > editions on the disk? You just only can use the version you have a
> > license
> > for. If that's the case, then I should be able to just buy the Home
> > Premium
> > to Ultimate upgrade DVD ($159 I think) .
> >
> > Or do you have to have the upgrade license and then purchase the x64 media
> > just like like you would if you were going from HP x86 to x64 (an addition
> > ~$10)?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> >
> >> You have to buy the Ultimate license and use it with an x64 dvd.
> >>
> >> It is the product key which determines which edition gets installed and
> >> the
> >> dvd you use determines whether it is 32bit or 64bit.
> >>
> >> If you have an upgrade pk for Vista Ultimate and the 64bit dvd you can
> >> migrate from Vista Home Premium x86 to Vista Ultimate x64 at just the
> >> cost
> >> of the Vista Ultimate upgrade edition price.
> >>
> >> You will boot with the x64 dvd, enter the upgrade edition product key
> >> (which
> >> will tell the installer to look over the computer for another copy of
> >> Windows and then install Ultimate), and then choose Custom Install to
> >> complete the installation. In this case, Vista Setup will allow you to
> >> do a
> >> clean install if you prefer. The Disk Tools icon will be available since
> >> you booted with the dvd. It does NOT work the same way as it does when
> >> using the 32bit dvd. You will NOT be instructed to run Setup from the
> >> existing Windows desktop.
> >>
> >> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message news:012EF87E-0B42-4FD5-BE02-611B1B98E3D8@microsoft.com...
> >> > So, there is no means of moving from 32-bit Home Premium to 64-bit
> >> > Ultimate
> >> > without buying a full retail version of Ultimate.
> >> >
> >> > That's really my goal here, I'd like to move up to 64-bit Ultimate. I
> >> > just
> >> > figured that, seeing as I own a retail copy of Home Premium, I could
> >> > buy a
> >> > DVD that would allow me to do a clean install of 64-bit Ultimate for
> >> > less
> >> > than it would cost me to buy a full retail version.
> >> >
> >> > If I'm reading your comments correctly, then you're saying the
> >> > "upgrade"
> >> > DVDs are only for people who are making a switch from XP/2000 to Vista.
> >> > And
> >> > the people who already own a version of Vista are left out in the cold?
> >> > Seems peculiar to me, or it's quite possible that I'm just being really
> >> > dense
> >> > at the moment.
> >> >
> >> > "Mark" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> See the instructions in my first response.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you go with an upgrade disk, you will have to install WinXP Pro or
> >> >> 2000
> >> >> to "upgrade", then insert the the 64-bit dvid and do a custom install.
> >> >> This is a clean install. Use the product key you get with the upgrade
> >> >> disk.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> message news:F0B51BD9-2C13-41DD-B088-342C02AB0783@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > On a side-note:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If I buy the Home Premium to Ultimate upgrade, can I do a clean
> >> >> > install
> >> >> > from
> >> >> > the upgrade DVD of Ultimate 64-bit?
> >> >>
> >>
>
 
Re: Upgrading to 64-bit Vista

Boot with the 64bit dvd. The dvd's are clearly marked "32 bit Software" and
"64 bit Software". A retail Ultimate upgrade edition box contains both
dvd's. It's a perk of going with Ultimate that you don't have to send away
for the x64 dvd. But even if you did have to order the x64 dvd it comes in
less than a week.

"Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:F2E4B7F2-8CF5-451C-A236-E8F7ED6EB129@microsoft.com...
> So, I buy the Ultimate upgrade edition (not the anytime upgrade)...
>
> What would I have to do from there to gain access to the 64-bit material?
>
> Sorry for being so dense on all of this, I just want to be absolutely sure
> I'm buying the right things so I don't end up wasting money.
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> Retail Ultimate comes with two dvd's. One is x86 and one is x64. For
>> all
>> other editions you get the x86 dvd and instructions for ordering the x64
>> dvd
>> at shipping and handling cost for your region.
>>
>> All, and I mean all, retail Vista dvd's are the same. All x86 retail
>> dvd's
>> are the same and all x64 dvd's are the same. There are no upgrade dvd's
>> for
>> Vista like there are upgrade cd's with XP. The Vista product key alone
>> makes the difference as to whether you have an upgrade edition or full.
>>
>> My recommendation is to buy the Vista Ultimate upgrade edition.
>> Personally
>> I don't like the Anytime Upgrade version because its license is only
>> tranferable to one new machine. That's a one-time deal. I don't care
>> for
>> that limitation. The retail version is not limited as to the number of
>> times it can be transferred to a new machine.
>>
>> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:938412C2-D8C4-4D35-8688-CF26F0AE6281@microsoft.com...
>> > If I'm not mistaken, doesn't Ultimate DVDs come with both the x86 and
>> > x64
>> > editions on the disk? You just only can use the version you have a
>> > license
>> > for. If that's the case, then I should be able to just buy the Home
>> > Premium
>> > to Ultimate upgrade DVD ($159 I think) .
>> >
>> > Or do you have to have the upgrade license and then purchase the x64
>> > media
>> > just like like you would if you were going from HP x86 to x64 (an
>> > addition
>> > ~$10)?
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>> >
>> >> You have to buy the Ultimate license and use it with an x64 dvd.
>> >>
>> >> It is the product key which determines which edition gets installed
>> >> and
>> >> the
>> >> dvd you use determines whether it is 32bit or 64bit.
>> >>
>> >> If you have an upgrade pk for Vista Ultimate and the 64bit dvd you can
>> >> migrate from Vista Home Premium x86 to Vista Ultimate x64 at just the
>> >> cost
>> >> of the Vista Ultimate upgrade edition price.
>> >>
>> >> You will boot with the x64 dvd, enter the upgrade edition product key
>> >> (which
>> >> will tell the installer to look over the computer for another copy of
>> >> Windows and then install Ultimate), and then choose Custom Install to
>> >> complete the installation. In this case, Vista Setup will allow you
>> >> to
>> >> do a
>> >> clean install if you prefer. The Disk Tools icon will be available
>> >> since
>> >> you booted with the dvd. It does NOT work the same way as it does
>> >> when
>> >> using the 32bit dvd. You will NOT be instructed to run Setup from the
>> >> existing Windows desktop.
>> >>
>> >> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message news:012EF87E-0B42-4FD5-BE02-611B1B98E3D8@microsoft.com...
>> >> > So, there is no means of moving from 32-bit Home Premium to 64-bit
>> >> > Ultimate
>> >> > without buying a full retail version of Ultimate.
>> >> >
>> >> > That's really my goal here, I'd like to move up to 64-bit Ultimate.
>> >> > I
>> >> > just
>> >> > figured that, seeing as I own a retail copy of Home Premium, I could
>> >> > buy a
>> >> > DVD that would allow me to do a clean install of 64-bit Ultimate for
>> >> > less
>> >> > than it would cost me to buy a full retail version.
>> >> >
>> >> > If I'm reading your comments correctly, then you're saying the
>> >> > "upgrade"
>> >> > DVDs are only for people who are making a switch from XP/2000 to
>> >> > Vista.
>> >> > And
>> >> > the people who already own a version of Vista are left out in the
>> >> > cold?
>> >> > Seems peculiar to me, or it's quite possible that I'm just being
>> >> > really
>> >> > dense
>> >> > at the moment.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Mark" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> See the instructions in my first response.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you go with an upgrade disk, you will have to install WinXP Pro
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> 2000
>> >> >> to "upgrade", then insert the the 64-bit dvid and do a custom
>> >> >> install.
>> >> >> This is a clean install. Use the product key you get with the
>> >> >> upgrade
>> >> >> disk.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> message news:F0B51BD9-2C13-41DD-B088-342C02AB0783@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > On a side-note:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If I buy the Home Premium to Ultimate upgrade, can I do a clean
>> >> >> > install
>> >> >> > from
>> >> >> > the upgrade DVD of Ultimate 64-bit?
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>
 
Re: Upgrading to 64-bit Vista

And, at last, after much time invested, I understand. Gonna start looking
for deals on the upgrade disk set now. Thanks a bunch to all involved!

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> Boot with the 64bit dvd. The dvd's are clearly marked "32 bit Software" and
> "64 bit Software". A retail Ultimate upgrade edition box contains both
> dvd's. It's a perk of going with Ultimate that you don't have to send away
> for the x64 dvd. But even if you did have to order the x64 dvd it comes in
> less than a week.
>
> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:F2E4B7F2-8CF5-451C-A236-E8F7ED6EB129@microsoft.com...
> > So, I buy the Ultimate upgrade edition (not the anytime upgrade)...
> >
> > What would I have to do from there to gain access to the 64-bit material?
> >
> > Sorry for being so dense on all of this, I just want to be absolutely sure
> > I'm buying the right things so I don't end up wasting money.
> >
> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> >
> >> Retail Ultimate comes with two dvd's. One is x86 and one is x64. For
> >> all
> >> other editions you get the x86 dvd and instructions for ordering the x64
> >> dvd
> >> at shipping and handling cost for your region.
> >>
> >> All, and I mean all, retail Vista dvd's are the same. All x86 retail
> >> dvd's
> >> are the same and all x64 dvd's are the same. There are no upgrade dvd's
> >> for
> >> Vista like there are upgrade cd's with XP. The Vista product key alone
> >> makes the difference as to whether you have an upgrade edition or full.
> >>
> >> My recommendation is to buy the Vista Ultimate upgrade edition.
> >> Personally
> >> I don't like the Anytime Upgrade version because its license is only
> >> tranferable to one new machine. That's a one-time deal. I don't care
> >> for
> >> that limitation. The retail version is not limited as to the number of
> >> times it can be transferred to a new machine.
> >>
> >> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message news:938412C2-D8C4-4D35-8688-CF26F0AE6281@microsoft.com...
> >> > If I'm not mistaken, doesn't Ultimate DVDs come with both the x86 and
> >> > x64
> >> > editions on the disk? You just only can use the version you have a
> >> > license
> >> > for. If that's the case, then I should be able to just buy the Home
> >> > Premium
> >> > to Ultimate upgrade DVD ($159 I think) .
> >> >
> >> > Or do you have to have the upgrade license and then purchase the x64
> >> > media
> >> > just like like you would if you were going from HP x86 to x64 (an
> >> > addition
> >> > ~$10)?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> You have to buy the Ultimate license and use it with an x64 dvd.
> >> >>
> >> >> It is the product key which determines which edition gets installed
> >> >> and
> >> >> the
> >> >> dvd you use determines whether it is 32bit or 64bit.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you have an upgrade pk for Vista Ultimate and the 64bit dvd you can
> >> >> migrate from Vista Home Premium x86 to Vista Ultimate x64 at just the
> >> >> cost
> >> >> of the Vista Ultimate upgrade edition price.
> >> >>
> >> >> You will boot with the x64 dvd, enter the upgrade edition product key
> >> >> (which
> >> >> will tell the installer to look over the computer for another copy of
> >> >> Windows and then install Ultimate), and then choose Custom Install to
> >> >> complete the installation. In this case, Vista Setup will allow you
> >> >> to
> >> >> do a
> >> >> clean install if you prefer. The Disk Tools icon will be available
> >> >> since
> >> >> you booted with the dvd. It does NOT work the same way as it does
> >> >> when
> >> >> using the 32bit dvd. You will NOT be instructed to run Setup from the
> >> >> existing Windows desktop.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> message news:012EF87E-0B42-4FD5-BE02-611B1B98E3D8@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > So, there is no means of moving from 32-bit Home Premium to 64-bit
> >> >> > Ultimate
> >> >> > without buying a full retail version of Ultimate.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That's really my goal here, I'd like to move up to 64-bit Ultimate.
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > just
> >> >> > figured that, seeing as I own a retail copy of Home Premium, I could
> >> >> > buy a
> >> >> > DVD that would allow me to do a clean install of 64-bit Ultimate for
> >> >> > less
> >> >> > than it would cost me to buy a full retail version.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If I'm reading your comments correctly, then you're saying the
> >> >> > "upgrade"
> >> >> > DVDs are only for people who are making a switch from XP/2000 to
> >> >> > Vista.
> >> >> > And
> >> >> > the people who already own a version of Vista are left out in the
> >> >> > cold?
> >> >> > Seems peculiar to me, or it's quite possible that I'm just being
> >> >> > really
> >> >> > dense
> >> >> > at the moment.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Mark" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> See the instructions in my first response.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If you go with an upgrade disk, you will have to install WinXP Pro
> >> >> >> or
> >> >> >> 2000
> >> >> >> to "upgrade", then insert the the 64-bit dvid and do a custom
> >> >> >> install.
> >> >> >> This is a clean install. Use the product key you get with the
> >> >> >> upgrade
> >> >> >> disk.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> message news:F0B51BD9-2C13-41DD-B088-342C02AB0783@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > On a side-note:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > If I buy the Home Premium to Ultimate upgrade, can I do a clean
> >> >> >> > install
> >> >> >> > from
> >> >> >> > the upgrade DVD of Ultimate 64-bit?
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
 
Re: Upgrading to 64-bit Vista

You're welcome.

"Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:7D122F66-ADEC-49D9-A625-FF430E47E4D8@microsoft.com...
> And, at last, after much time invested, I understand. Gonna start looking
> for deals on the upgrade disk set now. Thanks a bunch to all involved!
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> Boot with the 64bit dvd. The dvd's are clearly marked "32 bit Software"
>> and
>> "64 bit Software". A retail Ultimate upgrade edition box contains both
>> dvd's. It's a perk of going with Ultimate that you don't have to send
>> away
>> for the x64 dvd. But even if you did have to order the x64 dvd it comes
>> in
>> less than a week.
>>
>> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:F2E4B7F2-8CF5-451C-A236-E8F7ED6EB129@microsoft.com...
>> > So, I buy the Ultimate upgrade edition (not the anytime upgrade)...
>> >
>> > What would I have to do from there to gain access to the 64-bit
>> > material?
>> >
>> > Sorry for being so dense on all of this, I just want to be absolutely
>> > sure
>> > I'm buying the right things so I don't end up wasting money.
>> >
>> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Retail Ultimate comes with two dvd's. One is x86 and one is x64. For
>> >> all
>> >> other editions you get the x86 dvd and instructions for ordering the
>> >> x64
>> >> dvd
>> >> at shipping and handling cost for your region.
>> >>
>> >> All, and I mean all, retail Vista dvd's are the same. All x86 retail
>> >> dvd's
>> >> are the same and all x64 dvd's are the same. There are no upgrade
>> >> dvd's
>> >> for
>> >> Vista like there are upgrade cd's with XP. The Vista product key
>> >> alone
>> >> makes the difference as to whether you have an upgrade edition or
>> >> full.
>> >>
>> >> My recommendation is to buy the Vista Ultimate upgrade edition.
>> >> Personally
>> >> I don't like the Anytime Upgrade version because its license is only
>> >> tranferable to one new machine. That's a one-time deal. I don't care
>> >> for
>> >> that limitation. The retail version is not limited as to the number
>> >> of
>> >> times it can be transferred to a new machine.
>> >>
>> >> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message news:938412C2-D8C4-4D35-8688-CF26F0AE6281@microsoft.com...
>> >> > If I'm not mistaken, doesn't Ultimate DVDs come with both the x86
>> >> > and
>> >> > x64
>> >> > editions on the disk? You just only can use the version you have a
>> >> > license
>> >> > for. If that's the case, then I should be able to just buy the Home
>> >> > Premium
>> >> > to Ultimate upgrade DVD ($159 I think) .
>> >> >
>> >> > Or do you have to have the upgrade license and then purchase the x64
>> >> > media
>> >> > just like like you would if you were going from HP x86 to x64 (an
>> >> > addition
>> >> > ~$10)?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks!
>> >> >
>> >> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> You have to buy the Ultimate license and use it with an x64 dvd.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It is the product key which determines which edition gets installed
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> dvd you use determines whether it is 32bit or 64bit.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you have an upgrade pk for Vista Ultimate and the 64bit dvd you
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> migrate from Vista Home Premium x86 to Vista Ultimate x64 at just
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> cost
>> >> >> of the Vista Ultimate upgrade edition price.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You will boot with the x64 dvd, enter the upgrade edition product
>> >> >> key
>> >> >> (which
>> >> >> will tell the installer to look over the computer for another copy
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> Windows and then install Ultimate), and then choose Custom Install
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> complete the installation. In this case, Vista Setup will allow
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> do a
>> >> >> clean install if you prefer. The Disk Tools icon will be available
>> >> >> since
>> >> >> you booted with the dvd. It does NOT work the same way as it does
>> >> >> when
>> >> >> using the 32bit dvd. You will NOT be instructed to run Setup from
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> existing Windows desktop.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> message news:012EF87E-0B42-4FD5-BE02-611B1B98E3D8@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > So, there is no means of moving from 32-bit Home Premium to
>> >> >> > 64-bit
>> >> >> > Ultimate
>> >> >> > without buying a full retail version of Ultimate.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > That's really my goal here, I'd like to move up to 64-bit
>> >> >> > Ultimate.
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > just
>> >> >> > figured that, seeing as I own a retail copy of Home Premium, I
>> >> >> > could
>> >> >> > buy a
>> >> >> > DVD that would allow me to do a clean install of 64-bit Ultimate
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > less
>> >> >> > than it would cost me to buy a full retail version.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If I'm reading your comments correctly, then you're saying the
>> >> >> > "upgrade"
>> >> >> > DVDs are only for people who are making a switch from XP/2000 to
>> >> >> > Vista.
>> >> >> > And
>> >> >> > the people who already own a version of Vista are left out in the
>> >> >> > cold?
>> >> >> > Seems peculiar to me, or it's quite possible that I'm just being
>> >> >> > really
>> >> >> > dense
>> >> >> > at the moment.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Mark" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> See the instructions in my first response.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> If you go with an upgrade disk, you will have to install WinXP
>> >> >> >> Pro
>> >> >> >> or
>> >> >> >> 2000
>> >> >> >> to "upgrade", then insert the the 64-bit dvid and do a custom
>> >> >> >> install.
>> >> >> >> This is a clean install. Use the product key you get with the
>> >> >> >> upgrade
>> >> >> >> disk.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Phosphonothioic" <Phosphonothioic@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> news:F0B51BD9-2C13-41DD-B088-342C02AB0783@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> > On a side-note:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > If I buy the Home Premium to Ultimate upgrade, can I do a
>> >> >> >> > clean
>> >> >> >> > install
>> >> >> >> > from
>> >> >> >> > the upgrade DVD of Ultimate 64-bit?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>
 
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