term server disconnecting me?

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i'm having a lot of trouble keeping a connect active in terminal
services. i connect and work for a few minutes and it boots me out.
i try logging back in and the connection is refused. thirty minutes or
so later i can use the connection again. the server is windows 2000
server. the clients are two vista machines on the local network. i
have a xp computer with a connection from outside the local not having
any problem. i can make a direct connection to the server going to
start -> run -> \\ipaddress, but i can't ping the server. anyone have
any ideas?
 
Re: term server disconnecting me?

That sounds like Vista's autotuning.

934430 - Network connectivity may fail when you try to use Windows
Vista behind a firewall device
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=934430

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Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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jdrott1 <jonathandrott@gmail.com> wrote on 25 feb 2008 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> i'm having a lot of trouble keeping a connect active in terminal
> services. i connect and work for a few minutes and it boots me
> out. i try logging back in and the connection is refused. thirty
> minutes or so later i can use the connection again. the server
> is windows 2000 server. the clients are two vista machines on
> the local network. i have a xp computer with a connection from
> outside the local not having any problem. i can make a direct
> connection to the server going to start -> run -> \\ipaddress,
> but i can't ping the server. anyone have any ideas?
 
Re: term server disconnecting me?

On Feb 25, 2:54 pm, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
> That sounds like Vista's autotuning.
>
> 934430 - Network connectivity may fail when you try to use Windows
> Vista behind a firewall devicehttp://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=934430
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> jdrott1 <jonathandr...@gmail.com> wrote on 25 feb 2008 in
> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
>
>
> > i'm having a lot of trouble keeping a connect active in terminal
> > services.  i connect and work for a few minutes and it boots me
> > out. i try logging back in and the connection is refused. thirty
> > minutes or so later i can use the connection again.   the server
> > is windows 2000 server.  the clients are two vista machines on
> > the local network.  i have a xp computer with a connection from
> > outside the local not having any problem.  i can make a direct
> > connection to the server going to start -> run -> \\ipaddress,
> > but i can't ping the server.  anyone have any ideas?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

thanks for the quick response. your suggestions didn't work. this
has been only presenting a problem the last week or so. the only
thing the scanner found was upnp support. is this necessary for rdp?
why would it work and then all of a sudden not work?
 
Re: term server disconnecting me?

jdrott1 <jonathandrott@gmail.com> wrote on 25 feb 2008 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> On Feb 25, 2:54 pm, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
> this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
>> That sounds like Vista's autotuning.
>>
>> 934430 - Network connectivity may fail when you try to use
>> Windows Vista behind a firewall
>> devicehttp://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=934430
>>
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Vera Noest
>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>>
>> jdrott1 <jonathandr...@gmail.com> wrote on 25 feb 2008 in
>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>
>>
>>
>> > i'm having a lot of trouble keeping a connect active in
>> > terminal services.  i connect and work for a few minutes and
>> > it boots me out. i try logging back in and the connection is
>> > refused. thirty minutes or so later i can use the connection
>> > again.   the server is windows 2000 server.  the clients are
>> > two vista machines on the local network.  i have a xp
>> > computer with a connection from outside the local not having
>> > any problem.  i can make a direct connection to the server
>> > going to start -> run -> \\ipaddress, but i can't ping the
>> > server.  anyone have any ideas?- Hide quoted text
> -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> thanks for the quick response. your suggestions didn't work.
> this has been only presenting a problem the last week or so.
> the only thing the scanner found was upnp support. is this
> necessary for rdp? why would it work and then all of a sudden
> not work?

You might post in a Vista newsgroup.
I've seen hundreths of posts about problems with the latest Windows
Updates for Vista, but haven't really paid much attention, since I
don't use Vista.
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
 
Re: term server disconnecting me?

On Feb 25, 4:53 pm, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
> jdrott1 <jonathandr...@gmail.com> wrote on 25 feb 2008 in
> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 25, 2:54 pm, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
> > this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
> >> That sounds like Vista's autotuning.
>
> >> 934430 - Network connectivity may fail when you try to use
> >> Windows Vista behind a firewall
> >> devicehttp://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=934430
>
> >> _________________________________________________________
> >> Vera Noest
> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >> TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> >> jdrott1 <jonathandr...@gmail.com> wrote on 25 feb 2008 in
> >> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
> >> > i'm having a lot of trouble keeping a connect active in
> >> > terminal services.  i connect and work for a few minutes and
> >> > it boots me out. i try logging back in and the connection is
> >> > refused. thirty minutes or so later i can use the connection
> >> > again.   the server is windows 2000 server.  the clients are
> >> > two vista machines on the local network.  i have a xp
> >> > computer with a connection from outside the local not having
> >> > any problem.  i can make a direct connection to the server
> >> > going to start -> run -> \\ipaddress, but i can't ping the
> >> > server.  anyone have any ideas?- Hide quoted text
> >  -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > thanks for the quick response.  your suggestions didn't work.
> > this has been only presenting a problem the last week or so.
> > the only thing the scanner found was upnp support.  is this
> > necessary for rdp? why would it work and then all of a sudden
> > not work?
>
> You might post in a Vista newsgroup.
> I've seen hundreths of posts about problems with the latest Windows
> Updates for Vista, but haven't really paid much attention, since I
> don't use Vista.
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

i thinking it's not a vista problem. another xp machine on the lan is
not able to connect when the vista machine can't. is there any tools
to help me figure out what is going on?
 
Re: term server disconnecting me?

jdrott1 <jonathandrott@gmail.com> wrote on 26 feb 2008:

> On Feb 25, 4:53 pm, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
> this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
>> jdrott1 <jonathandr...@gmail.com> wrote on 25 feb 2008 in
>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 25, 2:54 pm, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
>> > this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
>> >> That sounds like Vista's autotuning.
>>
>> >> 934430 - Network connectivity may fail when you try to use
>> >> Windows Vista behind a firewall
>> >> devicehttp://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=934430
>>
>> >> _________________________________________________________
>> >> Vera Noest
>> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> >> TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
>> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>>
>> >> jdrott1 <jonathandr...@gmail.com> wrote on 25 feb 2008 in
>> >> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>
>> >> > i'm having a lot of trouble keeping a connect active in
>> >> > terminal services.  i connect and work for a few minutes
>> >> > and it boots me out. i try logging back in and the
>> >> > connection is refused. thirty minutes or so later i can
>> >> > use the connection again.   the server is windows 2000
>> >> > server.  the clients are two vista machines on the local
>> >> > network.  i have a xp computer with a connection from
>> >> > outside the local not having any problem.  i can make a
>> >> > direct connection to the server going to start -> run ->
>> >> > \\ipaddress, but i can't ping the server.  anyone have any
>> >> > ideas?- Hide quoted text
>> >  -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > thanks for the quick response.  your suggestions didn't work.
>> > this has been only presenting a problem the last week or so.
>> > the only thing the scanner found was upnp support.  is this
>> > necessary for rdp? why would it work and then all of a sudden
>> > not work?
>>
>> You might post in a Vista newsgroup.
>> I've seen hundreths of posts about problems with the latest
>> Windows Updates for Vista, but haven't really paid much
>> attention, since I don't use Vista.
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Vera Noest
>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___- Hide
>> quoted tex
> t -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> i thinking it's not a vista problem. another xp machine on the
> lan is not able to connect when the vista machine can't. is
> there any tools to help me figure out what is going on?

OK, that's new info.
So all the clients who are having trouble are on the same network
segment, is that correct? And you can't ping the server? Not by
name, or not by IP address, or both?
It seems to be a general network problem, not a TS problem.
Have you checked your default gateway and subnet mask?
Maybe your router has an errorlog?
I would ask this in a network newsgroup.
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
*----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*
 
Re: term server disconnecting me?

On Feb 26, 7:55 am, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <Vera.No...@remove-
this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
> jdrott1 <jonathandr...@gmail.com> wrote on 26 feb 2008:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 25, 4:53 pm, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
> > this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
> >> jdrott1 <jonathandr...@gmail.com> wrote on 25 feb 2008 in
> >> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
> >> > On Feb 25, 2:54 pm, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
> >> > this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
> >> >> That sounds like Vista's autotuning.
>
> >> >> 934430 - Network connectivity may fail when you try to use
> >> >> Windows Vista behind a firewall
> >> >> devicehttp://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=934430
>
> >> >> _________________________________________________________
> >> >> Vera Noest
> >> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >> >> TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
> >> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> >> >> jdrott1 <jonathandr...@gmail.com> wrote on 25 feb 2008 in
> >> >> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
> >> >> > i'm having a lot of trouble keeping a connect active in
> >> >> > terminal services.  i connect and work for a few minutes
> >> >> > and it boots me out. i try logging back in and the
> >> >> > connection is refused. thirty minutes or so later i can
> >> >> > use the connection again.   the server is windows 2000
> >> >> > server.  the clients are two vista machines on the local
> >> >> > network.  i have a xp computer with a connection from
> >> >> > outside the local not having any problem.  i can make a
> >> >> > direct connection to the server going to start -> run ->
> >> >> > \\ipaddress, but i can't ping the server.  anyone have any
> >> >> > ideas?- Hide quoted text
> >> >  -
>
> >> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >> > thanks for the quick response.  your suggestions didn't work.
> >> > this has been only presenting a problem the last week or so.
> >> > the only thing the scanner found was upnp support.  is this
> >> > necessary for rdp? why would it work and then all of a sudden
> >> > not work?
>
> >> You might post in a Vista newsgroup.
> >> I've seen hundreths of posts about problems with the latest
> >> Windows Updates for Vista, but haven't really paid much
> >> attention, since I don't use Vista.
> >> _________________________________________________________
> >> Vera Noest
> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >> TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___- Hide
> >> quoted tex
> > t -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > i thinking it's not a vista problem.  another xp machine on the
> > lan is not able to connect when the vista machine can't.  is
> > there any tools to help me figure out what is going on?
>
> OK, that's new info.
> So all the clients who are having trouble are on the same network
> segment, is that correct? And you can't ping the server? Not by
> name, or not by IP address, or both?
> It seems to be a general network problem, not a TS problem.
> Have you checked your default gateway and subnet mask?
> Maybe your router has an errorlog?
> I would ask this in a network newsgroup.
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

when one computer can't login all the computers on the lan can't
login. when i ping the request times out. the gateway and subnet
haven't changed in a year or so. even though the ts dies the internet
connection works fine. i'll post this in a network group also, but
i'm thinking its windows and/or terminal services.
 
Re: term server disconnecting me?

jdrott1 <jonathandrott@gmail.com> wrote on 26 feb 2008:

> On Feb 26, 7:55 am, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <Vera.No...@remove-
> this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
>> jdrott1 <jonathandr...@gmail.com> wrote on 26 feb 2008:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 25, 4:53 pm, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
>> > this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
>> >> jdrott1 <jonathandr...@gmail.com> wrote on 25 feb 2008 in
>> >> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>
>> >> > On Feb 25, 2:54 pm, "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.no...@remove-
>> >> > this.hem.utfors.se> wrote:
>> >> >> That sounds like Vista's autotuning.
>>
>> >> >> 934430 - Network connectivity may fail when you try to
>> >> >> use Windows Vista behind a firewall
>> >> >> devicehttp://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=934430
>>
>> >> >> _________________________________________________________
>> >> >> Vera Noest
>> >> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> >> >> TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
>> >> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>>
>> >> >> jdrott1 <jonathandr...@gmail.com> wrote on 25 feb 2008 in
>> >> >> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>
>> >> >> > i'm having a lot of trouble keeping a connect active in
>> >> >> > terminal services.  i connect and work for a few
>> >> >> > minutes and it boots me out. i try logging back in and
>> >> >> > the connection is refused. thirty minutes or so later i
>> >> >> > can use the connection again.   the server is windows
>> >> >> > 2000 server.  the clients are two vista machines on the
>> >> >> > local network.  i have a xp computer with a connection
>> >> >> > from outside the local not having any problem.  i can
>> >> >> > make a direct connection to the server going to start
>> >> >> > -> run -> \\ipaddress, but i can't ping the server.
>> >> >> >  anyone have any ideas?- Hide quoted text
>> >> >  -
>>
>> >> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >> > thanks for the quick response.  your suggestions didn't
>> >> > work. this has been only presenting a problem the last
>> >> > week or so. the only thing the scanner found was upnp
>> >> > support.  is this necessary for rdp? why would it work and
>> >> > then all of a sudden not work?
>>
>> >> You might post in a Vista newsgroup.
>> >> I've seen hundreths of posts about problems with the latest
>> >> Windows Updates for Vista, but haven't really paid much
>> >> attention, since I don't use Vista.
>> >> _________________________________________________________
>> >> Vera Noest
>> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> >> TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
>> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___-
>> >> Hide quoted tex
>> > t -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > i thinking it's not a vista problem.  another xp machine on
>> > the lan is not able to connect when the vista machine can't.
>> >  is there any tools to help me figure out what is going on?
>>
>> OK, that's new info.
>> So all the clients who are having trouble are on the same
>> network segment, is that correct? And you can't ping the
>> server? Not by name, or not by IP address, or both?
>> It seems to be a general network problem, not a TS problem.
>> Have you checked your default gateway and subnet mask?
>> Maybe your router has an errorlog?
>> I would ask this in a network newsgroup.
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Vera Noest
>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> TS troubleshooting:  http://ts.veranoest.net
>> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*- Hide
>> quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> when one computer can't login all the computers on the lan can't
> login. when i ping the request times out. the gateway and
> subnet haven't changed in a year or so. even though the ts dies
> the internet connection works fine. i'll post this in a network
> group also, but i'm thinking its windows and/or terminal
> services.

If you can't ping, it has nothing to do with TS.
It could be a windows problem, but a networking group will be able
to help you better.
Have you checked the EventLogs on all servers involved (DC, DNS,
TS)?
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
*----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*
 
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