Re: Office Licencing on TS Server
A separate license for the Terminal Server itself has never been
needed, unless you run Office on the physical console of the TS.
And yes, your Office-over-rdp-over-rdp is a license violation.
Clearly stated in the document:
when a desktop application is accessed remotely across an
organization using Windows Server Terminal Services, a separate
desktop application license is required for each desktop from which
the application is accessed.
If you are in any doubt about the licensing scenario, the best
thing you can do is to call your Microsoft representative.
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting:
http://ts.veranoest.net
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"Rich Raffenetti" <rich@raffenetti_takethisout.com> wrote on 07
mar 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
> Luke,
> We do not use Office on our Terminal Servers because the
> former
> licensing (before 2007) appeared to be that two licenses were
> needed, One for the client PC and one for the TS. This paper
> either changes that or clarifies it.
>
> Office is device-based and that causes the illogical
> exceptions that you
> cite.
>
> Here's another scenario. What if you only have Office on
> one of your
> five PCs and you RDP to that machine from one of the others and
> then to the TS (where you use Office) from that one. Is that a
> license violation? 
Rich
>
> "Luke Chalmers" <LukeChalmers@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> in message
> news:814ACE52-C3BA-403E-99FD-B875F7D31D02@microsoft.com...
>> Rich,
>>
>> Cheers for taking a look. I think this is not the way forward
>> for us and will have to take a look elsewhere.
>>
>> So do you use TS? If so, do you setup laptop users with the
>> same office version etc on their laptop as the TS?
>>
>> We want to move away from the user having to take their laptop
>> everywhere and also move away from VPN as sometime this can
>> become a bit unreliable.
>>
>> The licence agreement seems silly if you ask me and I would
>> have thought that I would not be the only one who has this
>> problem. Far too restrictive.
>>
>> Luke
>>
>> "Rich Raffenetti" wrote:
>>
>>> Luke,
>>> I agree with your assessment. Actually it is worse since
>>> the device
>>> must have a volume license for Office and be equal to or
>>> greater than in functionality as compared to the TS version.
>>> And ... it's important to remember that the clients are
>>> licensed by device, not user.
>>>
>>> So the internet cafe PC seems to be out. On the other
>>> hand, the
>>> laptop
>>> PC carried into a wireless zone is ok if licensed properly.
>>>
>>> On the positive side, this article further clarifies
>>> Office use on
>>> Terminal Servers. The waters are less muddy now.
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> "Luke Chalmers" <LukeChalmers@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>> in message
>>> news:15A24E10-760F-4009-8184-25745CA84474@microsoft.com...
>>> > Rich,
>>> >
>>> > Good spot! My bad. Try this one!
>>> >
>>> > Many thanks for taking a look.
>>> >
>>> > http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/7/7/17745e4a-5d31-4d
>>> > e4-a416-07c646336d94/desktop_application_with_windows_server_
>>> > terminal_services.doc
>>> >
>>> > "Rich Raffenetti" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I found the link to be about TS Gateway. Are you sure this
>>> >> is the right
>>> >> link?
>>> >>
>>> >> "Luke Chalmers" <LukeChalmers@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>> >> wrote in message
>>> >> news:65AABB8A-92D6-4241-BD5A-99971222473E@microsoft.com...
>>> >> > Hello,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I have read the following article and found the licencing
>>> >> > agreement a
>>> >> > bit
>>> >> > surprising and was wondering if someone would clear
>>> >> > something up for me.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/library
>>> >> > /9da3742f-699d-4476-b050-c50aa14aaf081033.mspx?mfr=true
>>> >> >
>>> >> > This a word document from MSFT site explaining how to
>>> >> > correctly license
>>> >> > Office on a Terminal Services Server.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > As I read it, you must have a full copy of Office on the
>>> >> > remote desktop
>>> >> > machine (machine you are using to access TS) in order to
>>> >> > use Office on
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > Terminal Server?!?!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If you use say a machine in an internet cafe, you won't
>>> >> > be able to use
>>> >> > Outlook, Word etc unless Office is actually installed on
>>> >> > the internet
>>> >> > cafe
>>> >> > machine.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sort of defies the point of having TS but I thought I
>>> >> > could licence the
>>> >> > TS
>>> >> > server with say 25 office licences so that 25 users can
>>> >> > use Office remotely
>>> >> > using TS.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Have I read this wrong? If not, how do people get round
>>> >> > this? Do they
>>> >> > use
>>> >> > Citrix?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Many thanks,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sorrry if I have confused anyone out there!!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Luke