InstallShield problem

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Hi;
About 2 weeks ago, while dl'ing new defs for Spybot S&D, a newer version
of Spybot began to self-install. Without thinking (which is the cause of
most of my problems!), I let it proceed. Halfway thru, it choked. I dl'ed
the new version and successfully installed it but it brought my system to a
crawl, so I uninstalled it and re-installed the older version. Since then,
I can't install any other programs. I get the following message:

Setup Initialization Error
Setup has detected that unInstallShield is in use. Please close
unInstallShield and restart setup. Error 432

Using Process Explorer, I don't see unInstallShield running so I guess a
registry key was corrupted, but which one and what should it be?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA...gjw



--
George J. Wallace
 
Re: InstallShield problem

I believe you may have corrupted the Uninstall shield when the original
install failed and you then performed the uninstall. Before you attempt any
of the steps below, read through some of the articles here:
http://knowledge.macrovision.com/selfservice/microsites/searchEntry.do

This could be happening if IsUninst.exe is corrupted on your machine.
IsUninst.exe is the InstallShield uninstallation file, and when it is
corrupted it might appear to be in use even though it is not showing up as a
process that is running in the Task Manager or your Process Explorer.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Try to Delete all instances of IsUninst.exe from the Windows directory and
try running your setup again. If IsUninst.exe cannot be deleted because it
is in use, try to reboot the machine and run the setup again.

Don't forget that you should have a System Restore point that was set just
before all this happened. That may be your best shot at resolving
this.....I think I would try the SR first!!

Hope that helps resolve the issue.

Heirloom, old and too bad humans don't have
an SR



"George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
news:e%23OYd8SgIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hi;
> About 2 weeks ago, while dl'ing new defs for Spybot S&D, a newer version
> of Spybot began to self-install. Without thinking (which is the cause of
> most of my problems!), I let it proceed. Halfway thru, it choked. I
> dl'ed
> the new version and successfully installed it but it brought my system to
> a
> crawl, so I uninstalled it and re-installed the older version. Since
> then,
> I can't install any other programs. I get the following message:
>
> Setup Initialization Error
> Setup has detected that unInstallShield is in use. Please close
> unInstallShield and restart setup. Error 432
>
> Using Process Explorer, I don't see unInstallShield running so I guess a
> registry key was corrupted, but which one and what should it be?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA...gjw
>
>
>
> --
> George J. Wallace
>
>
 
Re: InstallShield problem

I have two comments;
1). If the uninstall shield is corrupted, would running the uninstall
feature of another program solve the problem or do these programs use the
same uninstall shield? I'm thinking of CCLEANER or EASYCLEANER.
2).If the uninstall shield is corrupted and always in use, then you may have
to go into mvp Gary Terhune's "tricked" CLEAN BOOT environment. If
interested, see
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/msg/b1a0422c281f3c47

In effect go into MSCONFIG and change from normal startup to "selective
startup". Remove the checkmarks in "load startup group" and "load
environment variables". Reboot and then start/run and type %temp%. When new
screen appears Ctrl + A and delete everything highlighted. Then go to
Control Panel/Internet Options and delete TIF, including offline content.
Then empty recycled bin. Return to MSCONFIG and reactivate NORMAL STARTUP
but this time DO NOT REBOOT. Go ahead and uninstall what you are trying to
uninstall and once done, reboot to normal mode. The only caveat to the above
is if you haven't managed your startup items other than by removing
checkmarks, take a note of what was checked before starting and then
replicate when returning to normal mode.

Hope this helps
"Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
news:eaIhbeTgIHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I believe you may have corrupted the Uninstall shield when the original
>install failed and you then performed the uninstall. Before you attempt
>any of the steps below, read through some of the articles here:
> http://knowledge.macrovision.com/selfservice/microsites/searchEntry.do
>
> This could be happening if IsUninst.exe is corrupted on your machine.
> IsUninst.exe is the InstallShield uninstallation file, and when it is
> corrupted it might appear to be in use even though it is not showing up as
> a process that is running in the Task Manager or your Process Explorer.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Try to Delete all instances of IsUninst.exe from the Windows directory and
> try running your setup again. If IsUninst.exe cannot be deleted because it
> is in use, try to reboot the machine and run the setup again.
>
> Don't forget that you should have a System Restore point that was set just
> before all this happened. That may be your best shot at resolving
> this.....I think I would try the SR first!!
>
> Hope that helps resolve the issue.
>
> Heirloom, old and too bad humans don't have
> an SR
>
>
>
> "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:e%23OYd8SgIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Hi;
>> About 2 weeks ago, while dl'ing new defs for Spybot S&D, a newer version
>> of Spybot began to self-install. Without thinking (which is the cause of
>> most of my problems!), I let it proceed. Halfway thru, it choked. I
>> dl'ed
>> the new version and successfully installed it but it brought my system to
>> a
>> crawl, so I uninstalled it and re-installed the older version. Since
>> then,
>> I can't install any other programs. I get the following message:
>>
>> Setup Initialization Error
>> Setup has detected that unInstallShield is in use. Please close
>> unInstallShield and restart setup. Error 432
>>
>> Using Process Explorer, I don't see unInstallShield running so I guess a
>> registry key was corrupted, but which one and what should it be?
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA...gjw
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> George J. Wallace
>>
>>

>
>
 
Re: InstallShield problem

George wrote:-

>> .. I guess a registry key was corrupted,
>> but which one and what should it be?


I'm with HL, - in his last paragraph, HL wrote:-

> you should have a System Restore point .. .. I think I would try the SR
> first!!


Mart



"Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
news:eaIhbeTgIHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I believe you may have corrupted the Uninstall shield when the original
>install failed and you then performed the uninstall. Before you attempt
>any of the steps below, read through some of the articles here:
> http://knowledge.macrovision.com/selfservice/microsites/searchEntry.do
>
> This could be happening if IsUninst.exe is corrupted on your machine.
> IsUninst.exe is the InstallShield uninstallation file, and when it is
> corrupted it might appear to be in use even though it is not showing up as
> a process that is running in the Task Manager or your Process Explorer.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Try to Delete all instances of IsUninst.exe from the Windows directory and
> try running your setup again. If IsUninst.exe cannot be deleted because it
> is in use, try to reboot the machine and run the setup again.
>
> Don't forget that you should have a System Restore point that was set just
> before all this happened. That may be your best shot at resolving
> this.....I think I would try the SR first!!
>
> Hope that helps resolve the issue.
>
> Heirloom, old and too bad humans don't have
> an SR
>
>
>
> "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:e%23OYd8SgIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Hi;
>> About 2 weeks ago, while dl'ing new defs for Spybot S&D, a newer version
>> of Spybot began to self-install. Without thinking (which is the cause of
>> most of my problems!), I let it proceed. Halfway thru, it choked. I
>> dl'ed
>> the new version and successfully installed it but it brought my system to
>> a
>> crawl, so I uninstalled it and re-installed the older version. Since
>> then,
>> I can't install any other programs. I get the following message:
>>
>> Setup Initialization Error
>> Setup has detected that unInstallShield is in use. Please close
>> unInstallShield and restart setup. Error 432
>>
>> Using Process Explorer, I don't see unInstallShield running so I guess a
>> registry key was corrupted, but which one and what should it be?
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA...gjw
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> George J. Wallace
>>
>>

>
>
 
Re: InstallShield problem

Hi;
First, thanks for all the quick replies. As usual, solve one problem and
get another. As Heirloom suggested, I deleted IsUninst.exe and got a little
farther along in the install process but then got an error msg saying I
didn't have enough room in the Temp folder. I cleaned it out and now the
install goes a little farther before giving me an error msg with no text at
all, just an "OK" button (now that's hilarious!). Unfortunately, it's not
even leaving behind a log file that might tell me more. I'll try the System
Restore next. Thanks again...gjw

"Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
news:eaIhbeTgIHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I believe you may have corrupted the Uninstall shield when the original
> install failed and you then performed the uninstall. Before you attempt

any
> of the steps below, read through some of the articles here:
> http://knowledge.macrovision.com/selfservice/microsites/searchEntry.do
>
> This could be happening if IsUninst.exe is corrupted on your machine.
> IsUninst.exe is the InstallShield uninstallation file, and when it is
> corrupted it might appear to be in use even though it is not showing up as

a
> process that is running in the Task Manager or your Process Explorer.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

------
> Try to Delete all instances of IsUninst.exe from the Windows directory and
> try running your setup again. If IsUninst.exe cannot be deleted because it
> is in use, try to reboot the machine and run the setup again.
>
> Don't forget that you should have a System Restore point that was set just
> before all this happened. That may be your best shot at resolving
> this.....I think I would try the SR first!!
>
> Hope that helps resolve the issue.
>
> Heirloom, old and too bad humans don't

have
> an SR
>
>
>
> "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:e%23OYd8SgIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > Hi;
> > About 2 weeks ago, while dl'ing new defs for Spybot S&D, a newer

version
> > of Spybot began to self-install. Without thinking (which is the cause

of
> > most of my problems!), I let it proceed. Halfway thru, it choked. I
> > dl'ed
> > the new version and successfully installed it but it brought my system

to
> > a
> > crawl, so I uninstalled it and re-installed the older version. Since
> > then,
> > I can't install any other programs. I get the following message:
> >
> > Setup Initialization Error
> > Setup has detected that unInstallShield is in use. Please close
> > unInstallShield and restart setup. Error 432
> >
> > Using Process Explorer, I don't see unInstallShield running so I guess

a
> > registry key was corrupted, but which one and what should it be?
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA...gjw
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > George J. Wallace
> >
> >

>
>
 
Re: InstallShield problem

Mart,
Spybot doesn't update itself, the user must do it.
Isn't that a red flag?

Harry.


"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:ep1JEWUgIHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> George wrote:-
>
> >> .. I guess a registry key was corrupted,
> >> but which one and what should it be?

>
> I'm with HL, - in his last paragraph, HL wrote:-
>
> > you should have a System Restore point .. .. I think I would try the SR
> > first!!

>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
> news:eaIhbeTgIHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >I believe you may have corrupted the Uninstall shield when the original
> >install failed and you then performed the uninstall. Before you attempt
> >any of the steps below, read through some of the articles here:
> > http://knowledge.macrovision.com/selfservice/microsites/searchEntry.do
> >
> > This could be happening if IsUninst.exe is corrupted on your machine.
> > IsUninst.exe is the InstallShield uninstallation file, and when it is
> > corrupted it might appear to be in use even though it is not showing up

as
> > a process that is running in the Task Manager or your Process Explorer.

>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

------
> > Try to Delete all instances of IsUninst.exe from the Windows directory

and
> > try running your setup again. If IsUninst.exe cannot be deleted because

it
> > is in use, try to reboot the machine and run the setup again.
> >
> > Don't forget that you should have a System Restore point that was set

just
> > before all this happened. That may be your best shot at resolving
> > this.....I think I would try the SR first!!
> >
> > Hope that helps resolve the issue.
> >
> > Heirloom, old and too bad humans don't

have
> > an SR
> >
> >
> >
> > "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:e%23OYd8SgIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> Hi;
> >> About 2 weeks ago, while dl'ing new defs for Spybot S&D, a newer

version
> >> of Spybot began to self-install. Without thinking (which is the cause

of
> >> most of my problems!), I let it proceed. Halfway thru, it choked. I
> >> dl'ed
> >> the new version and successfully installed it but it brought my system

to
> >> a
> >> crawl, so I uninstalled it and re-installed the older version. Since
> >> then,
> >> I can't install any other programs. I get the following message:
> >>
> >> Setup Initialization Error
> >> Setup has detected that unInstallShield is in use. Please close
> >> unInstallShield and restart setup. Error 432
> >>
> >> Using Process Explorer, I don't see unInstallShield running so I guess

a
> >> registry key was corrupted, but which one and what should it be?
> >>
> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA...gjw
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> George J. Wallace
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>
 
Re: InstallShield problem

Harry.....sometimes it does. It tried to download the latest build
without my asking it to and I cancelled it immediately. But I did find
that yes, what it was trying to download was quite kosher and it is on
here now.

It was just the fact that it was totally unexpected that threw me. So
no, it was NOT a red flag.

HF

"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eSLaAmVgIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Mart,
> Spybot doesn't update itself, the user must do it.
> Isn't that a red flag?
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:ep1JEWUgIHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> George wrote:-
>>
>> >> .. I guess a registry key was corrupted,
>> >> but which one and what should it be?

>>
>> I'm with HL, - in his last paragraph, HL wrote:-
>>
>> > you should have a System Restore point .. .. I think I would try
>> > the SR
>> > first!!

>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>>
>> "Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
>> news:eaIhbeTgIHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >I believe you may have corrupted the Uninstall shield when the
>> >original
>> >install failed and you then performed the uninstall. Before you
>> >attempt
>> >any of the steps below, read through some of the articles here:
>> > http://knowledge.macrovision.com/selfservice/microsites/searchEntry.do
>> >
>> > This could be happening if IsUninst.exe is corrupted on your
>> > machine.
>> > IsUninst.exe is the InstallShield uninstallation file, and when it
>> > is
>> > corrupted it might appear to be in use even though it is not
>> > showing up

> as
>> > a process that is running in the Task Manager or your Process
>> > Explorer.

>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

> ------
>> > Try to Delete all instances of IsUninst.exe from the Windows
>> > directory

> and
>> > try running your setup again. If IsUninst.exe cannot be deleted
>> > because

> it
>> > is in use, try to reboot the machine and run the setup again.
>> >
>> > Don't forget that you should have a System Restore point that was
>> > set

> just
>> > before all this happened. That may be your best shot at resolving
>> > this.....I think I would try the SR first!!
>> >
>> > Hope that helps resolve the issue.
>> >
>> > Heirloom, old and too bad humans
>> > don't

> have
>> > an SR
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:e%23OYd8SgIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> Hi;
>> >> About 2 weeks ago, while dl'ing new defs for Spybot S&D, a newer

> version
>> >> of Spybot began to self-install. Without thinking (which is the
>> >> cause

> of
>> >> most of my problems!), I let it proceed. Halfway thru, it choked.
>> >> I
>> >> dl'ed
>> >> the new version and successfully installed it but it brought my
>> >> system

> to
>> >> a
>> >> crawl, so I uninstalled it and re-installed the older version.
>> >> Since
>> >> then,
>> >> I can't install any other programs. I get the following message:
>> >>
>> >> Setup Initialization Error
>> >> Setup has detected that unInstallShield is in use. Please close
>> >> unInstallShield and restart setup. Error 432
>> >>
>> >> Using Process Explorer, I don't see unInstallShield running so I
>> >> guess

> a
>> >> registry key was corrupted, but which one and what should it be?
>> >>
>> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA...gjw
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> George J. Wallace
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>
 
Re: InstallShield problem


So can you tell me 'why' it does update itself?
It certainly isn't designed that way.
The fact that it does, must signify something wrong, because simply updating
definitions requires choosing a site.
Maybe it's time to 'contact us' at Spybot.

Harry.


"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:eFCg95VgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Harry.....sometimes it does. It tried to download the latest build
> without my asking it to and I cancelled it immediately. But I did find
> that yes, what it was trying to download was quite kosher and it is on
> here now.
>
> It was just the fact that it was totally unexpected that threw me. So
> no, it was NOT a red flag.
>
> HF
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eSLaAmVgIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Mart,
> > Spybot doesn't update itself, the user must do it.
> > Isn't that a red flag?
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> > news:ep1JEWUgIHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> George wrote:-
> >>
> >> >> .. I guess a registry key was corrupted,
> >> >> but which one and what should it be?
> >>
> >> I'm with HL, - in his last paragraph, HL wrote:-
> >>
> >> > you should have a System Restore point .. .. I think I would try
> >> > the SR
> >> > first!!
> >>
> >> Mart
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
> >> news:eaIhbeTgIHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >I believe you may have corrupted the Uninstall shield when the
> >> >original
> >> >install failed and you then performed the uninstall. Before you
> >> >attempt
> >> >any of the steps below, read through some of the articles here:
> >> >

http://knowledge.macrovision.com/selfservice/microsites/searchEntry.do
> >> >
> >> > This could be happening if IsUninst.exe is corrupted on your
> >> > machine.
> >> > IsUninst.exe is the InstallShield uninstallation file, and when it
> >> > is
> >> > corrupted it might appear to be in use even though it is not
> >> > showing up

> > as
> >> > a process that is running in the Task Manager or your Process
> >> > Explorer.
> >>

>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------

-
> > ------
> >> > Try to Delete all instances of IsUninst.exe from the Windows
> >> > directory

> > and
> >> > try running your setup again. If IsUninst.exe cannot be deleted
> >> > because

> > it
> >> > is in use, try to reboot the machine and run the setup again.
> >> >
> >> > Don't forget that you should have a System Restore point that was
> >> > set

> > just
> >> > before all this happened. That may be your best shot at resolving
> >> > this.....I think I would try the SR first!!
> >> >
> >> > Hope that helps resolve the issue.
> >> >
> >> > Heirloom, old and too bad humans
> >> > don't

> > have
> >> > an SR
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:e%23OYd8SgIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Hi;
> >> >> About 2 weeks ago, while dl'ing new defs for Spybot S&D, a newer

> > version
> >> >> of Spybot began to self-install. Without thinking (which is the
> >> >> cause

> > of
> >> >> most of my problems!), I let it proceed. Halfway thru, it choked.
> >> >> I
> >> >> dl'ed
> >> >> the new version and successfully installed it but it brought my
> >> >> system

> > to
> >> >> a
> >> >> crawl, so I uninstalled it and re-installed the older version.
> >> >> Since
> >> >> then,
> >> >> I can't install any other programs. I get the following message:
> >> >>
> >> >> Setup Initialization Error
> >> >> Setup has detected that unInstallShield is in use. Please close
> >> >> unInstallShield and restart setup. Error 432
> >> >>
> >> >> Using Process Explorer, I don't see unInstallShield running so I
> >> >> guess

> > a
> >> >> registry key was corrupted, but which one and what should it be?
> >> >>
> >> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA...gjw
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> George J. Wallace
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>
 
Re: InstallShield problem

I don't quite follow where you're driving Harry, but either way in my
opinion - and it would seem, HL's too - reverting to an earlier SR point
might be a useful exercise.

My understanding is that 'things were working normally' until George - while
attempting his download - was met with a 'spontaneous' self-install of "a
newer version of Spybot" - Reason unknown, apparently (although Heather
suggests 'spontaneous updates' may sometimes occur).

But if, as George now believes:-

>> .. I guess a registry key was corrupted,


then a good place to get back to, would be to a time before he began his
download - or at least as far as the registry is concerned. All other
(temporary) folders etc., should be deletable (if he can find them) and/or a
fresh install/uninstall of Spybot (without running it!) ought to clean-up
his machine. Then he can install it again - if he still wants it! <g>

But let's wait and see how George has fared after his last posting. (20:10
GMT)

Mart



"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eSLaAmVgIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Mart,
> Spybot doesn't update itself, the user must do it.
> Isn't that a red flag?
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:ep1JEWUgIHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> George wrote:-
>>
>> >> .. I guess a registry key was corrupted,
>> >> but which one and what should it be?

>>
>> I'm with HL, - in his last paragraph, HL wrote:-
>>
>> > you should have a System Restore point .. .. I think I would try the
>> > SR
>> > first!!

>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>>
>> "Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
>> news:eaIhbeTgIHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >I believe you may have corrupted the Uninstall shield when the original
>> >install failed and you then performed the uninstall. Before you attempt
>> >any of the steps below, read through some of the articles here:
>> > http://knowledge.macrovision.com/selfservice/microsites/searchEntry.do
>> >
>> > This could be happening if IsUninst.exe is corrupted on your machine.
>> > IsUninst.exe is the InstallShield uninstallation file, and when it is
>> > corrupted it might appear to be in use even though it is not showing up

> as
>> > a process that is running in the Task Manager or your Process Explorer.

>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

> ------
>> > Try to Delete all instances of IsUninst.exe from the Windows directory

> and
>> > try running your setup again. If IsUninst.exe cannot be deleted because

> it
>> > is in use, try to reboot the machine and run the setup again.
>> >
>> > Don't forget that you should have a System Restore point that was set

> just
>> > before all this happened. That may be your best shot at resolving
>> > this.....I think I would try the SR first!!
>> >
>> > Hope that helps resolve the issue.
>> >
>> > Heirloom, old and too bad humans don't

> have
>> > an SR
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:e%23OYd8SgIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> Hi;
>> >> About 2 weeks ago, while dl'ing new defs for Spybot S&D, a newer

> version
>> >> of Spybot began to self-install. Without thinking (which is the cause

> of
>> >> most of my problems!), I let it proceed. Halfway thru, it choked. I
>> >> dl'ed
>> >> the new version and successfully installed it but it brought my system

> to
>> >> a
>> >> crawl, so I uninstalled it and re-installed the older version. Since
>> >> then,
>> >> I can't install any other programs. I get the following message:
>> >>
>> >> Setup Initialization Error
>> >> Setup has detected that unInstallShield is in use. Please close
>> >> unInstallShield and restart setup. Error 432
>> >>
>> >> Using Process Explorer, I don't see unInstallShield running so I
>> >> guess

> a
>> >> registry key was corrupted, but which one and what should it be?
>> >>
>> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA...gjw
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> George J. Wallace
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>
 
Re: InstallShield problem

Yep, Mart, I agree. IIRC, Spybot creates an SR when installing a new
version.....I could be wrong on that. In any case, if his SR is working
properly, he should have a point not too far from when the botched install
took place. Before any 'invasive surgery' takes place, I would surely try
that......at least, it is reversible!
Heirloom, old and love my whole disc backups

"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:Oez7EgWgIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I don't quite follow where you're driving Harry, but either way in my
>opinion - and it would seem, HL's too - reverting to an earlier SR point
>might be a useful exercise.
>
> My understanding is that 'things were working normally' until George -
> while attempting his download - was met with a 'spontaneous' self-install
> of "a newer version of Spybot" - Reason unknown, apparently (although
> Heather suggests 'spontaneous updates' may sometimes occur).
>
> But if, as George now believes:-
>
>>> .. I guess a registry key was corrupted,

>
> then a good place to get back to, would be to a time before he began his
> download - or at least as far as the registry is concerned. All other
> (temporary) folders etc., should be deletable (if he can find them) and/or
> a fresh install/uninstall of Spybot (without running it!) ought to
> clean-up his machine. Then he can install it again - if he still wants it!
> <g>
>
> But let's wait and see how George has fared after his last posting. (20:10
> GMT)
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eSLaAmVgIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Mart,
>> Spybot doesn't update itself, the user must do it.
>> Isn't that a red flag?
>>
>> Harry.
>>
>>
>> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:ep1JEWUgIHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> George wrote:-
>>>
>>> >> .. I guess a registry key was corrupted,
>>> >> but which one and what should it be?
>>>
>>> I'm with HL, - in his last paragraph, HL wrote:-
>>>
>>> > you should have a System Restore point .. .. I think I would try the
>>> > SR
>>> > first!!
>>>
>>> Mart
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
>>> news:eaIhbeTgIHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> >I believe you may have corrupted the Uninstall shield when the original
>>> >install failed and you then performed the uninstall. Before you
>>> >attempt
>>> >any of the steps below, read through some of the articles here:
>>> > http://knowledge.macrovision.com/selfservice/microsites/searchEntry.do
>>> >
>>> > This could be happening if IsUninst.exe is corrupted on your machine.
>>> > IsUninst.exe is the InstallShield uninstallation file, and when it is
>>> > corrupted it might appear to be in use even though it is not showing
>>> > up

>> as
>>> > a process that is running in the Task Manager or your Process
>>> > Explorer.
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> ------
>>> > Try to Delete all instances of IsUninst.exe from the Windows directory

>> and
>>> > try running your setup again. If IsUninst.exe cannot be deleted
>>> > because

>> it
>>> > is in use, try to reboot the machine and run the setup again.
>>> >
>>> > Don't forget that you should have a System Restore point that was set

>> just
>>> > before all this happened. That may be your best shot at resolving
>>> > this.....I think I would try the SR first!!
>>> >
>>> > Hope that helps resolve the issue.
>>> >
>>> > Heirloom, old and too bad humans don't

>> have
>>> > an SR
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> > news:e%23OYd8SgIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> >> Hi;
>>> >> About 2 weeks ago, while dl'ing new defs for Spybot S&D, a newer

>> version
>>> >> of Spybot began to self-install. Without thinking (which is the
>>> >> cause

>> of
>>> >> most of my problems!), I let it proceed. Halfway thru, it choked. I
>>> >> dl'ed
>>> >> the new version and successfully installed it but it brought my
>>> >> system

>> to
>>> >> a
>>> >> crawl, so I uninstalled it and re-installed the older version. Since
>>> >> then,
>>> >> I can't install any other programs. I get the following message:
>>> >>
>>> >> Setup Initialization Error
>>> >> Setup has detected that unInstallShield is in use. Please close
>>> >> unInstallShield and restart setup. Error 432
>>> >>
>>> >> Using Process Explorer, I don't see unInstallShield running so I
>>> >> guess

>> a
>>> >> registry key was corrupted, but which one and what should it be?
>>> >>
>>> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA...gjw
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> George J. Wallace
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>
 
Re: InstallShield problem

I wasn' trying to contradict you or H, only to point out the possibility,
that there might be something in the system, causing this behavior.
If not, it's fine with me.
Hope he gets it straightened out. <H>.


"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:Oez7EgWgIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I don't quite follow where you're driving Harry, but either way in my
> opinion - and it would seem, HL's too - reverting to an earlier SR point
> might be a useful exercise.
>
> My understanding is that 'things were working normally' until George -

while
> attempting his download - was met with a 'spontaneous' self-install of "a
> newer version of Spybot" - Reason unknown, apparently (although Heather
> suggests 'spontaneous updates' may sometimes occur).
>
> But if, as George now believes:-
>
> >> .. I guess a registry key was corrupted,

>
> then a good place to get back to, would be to a time before he began his
> download - or at least as far as the registry is concerned. All other
> (temporary) folders etc., should be deletable (if he can find them) and/or

a
> fresh install/uninstall of Spybot (without running it!) ought to clean-up
> his machine. Then he can install it again - if he still wants it! <g>
>
> But let's wait and see how George has fared after his last posting. (20:10
> GMT)
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eSLaAmVgIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Mart,
> > Spybot doesn't update itself, the user must do it.
> > Isn't that a red flag?
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> > news:ep1JEWUgIHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> George wrote:-
> >>
> >> >> .. I guess a registry key was corrupted,
> >> >> but which one and what should it be?
> >>
> >> I'm with HL, - in his last paragraph, HL wrote:-
> >>
> >> > you should have a System Restore point .. .. I think I would try the
> >> > SR
> >> > first!!
> >>
> >> Mart
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
> >> news:eaIhbeTgIHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >I believe you may have corrupted the Uninstall shield when the

original
> >> >install failed and you then performed the uninstall. Before you

attempt
> >> >any of the steps below, read through some of the articles here:
> >> >

http://knowledge.macrovision.com/selfservice/microsites/searchEntry.do
> >> >
> >> > This could be happening if IsUninst.exe is corrupted on your machine.
> >> > IsUninst.exe is the InstallShield uninstallation file, and when it is
> >> > corrupted it might appear to be in use even though it is not showing

up
> > as
> >> > a process that is running in the Task Manager or your Process

Explorer.
> >>

>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------

-
> > ------
> >> > Try to Delete all instances of IsUninst.exe from the Windows

directory
> > and
> >> > try running your setup again. If IsUninst.exe cannot be deleted

because
> > it
> >> > is in use, try to reboot the machine and run the setup again.
> >> >
> >> > Don't forget that you should have a System Restore point that was set

> > just
> >> > before all this happened. That may be your best shot at resolving
> >> > this.....I think I would try the SR first!!
> >> >
> >> > Hope that helps resolve the issue.
> >> >
> >> > Heirloom, old and too bad humans don't

> > have
> >> > an SR
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:e%23OYd8SgIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Hi;
> >> >> About 2 weeks ago, while dl'ing new defs for Spybot S&D, a newer

> > version
> >> >> of Spybot began to self-install. Without thinking (which is the

cause
> > of
> >> >> most of my problems!), I let it proceed. Halfway thru, it choked.

I
> >> >> dl'ed
> >> >> the new version and successfully installed it but it brought my

system
> > to
> >> >> a
> >> >> crawl, so I uninstalled it and re-installed the older version.

Since
> >> >> then,
> >> >> I can't install any other programs. I get the following message:
> >> >>
> >> >> Setup Initialization Error
> >> >> Setup has detected that unInstallShield is in use. Please close
> >> >> unInstallShield and restart setup. Error 432
> >> >>
> >> >> Using Process Explorer, I don't see unInstallShield running so I
> >> >> guess

> > a
> >> >> registry key was corrupted, but which one and what should it be?
> >> >>
> >> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA...gjw
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> George J. Wallace
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>
 
Re: InstallShield problem

Hi;
I had no luck with the system restore - it said that there were no restore
points available. Just as additional information, I've checked my system
with both CA antivirus and AVG and both said the system is clean. I've gone
through most of the macrovision kb and they have nothing about an error msg
that doesn't show a msg or number.
I'm going to try running an install with Process Explorer running. I know
that shouldn't have any background processes running during the install but
this may show me at what step the install is breaking or what process it's
trying to call...gjw

"George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
news:OcFaqhVgIHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hi;
> First, thanks for all the quick replies. As usual, solve one problem

and
> get another. As Heirloom suggested, I deleted IsUninst.exe and got a

little
> farther along in the install process but then got an error msg saying I
> didn't have enough room in the Temp folder. I cleaned it out and now the
> install goes a little farther before giving me an error msg with no text

at
> all, just an "OK" button (now that's hilarious!). Unfortunately, it's not
> even leaving behind a log file that might tell me more. I'll try the

System
> Restore next. Thanks again...gjw
>
> "Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
> news:eaIhbeTgIHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > I believe you may have corrupted the Uninstall shield when the original
> > install failed and you then performed the uninstall. Before you attempt

> any
> > of the steps below, read through some of the articles here:
> > http://knowledge.macrovision.com/selfservice/microsites/searchEntry.do
> >
> > This could be happening if IsUninst.exe is corrupted on your machine.
> > IsUninst.exe is the InstallShield uninstallation file, and when it is
> > corrupted it might appear to be in use even though it is not showing up

as
> a
> > process that is running in the Task Manager or your Process Explorer.

>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > Try to Delete all instances of IsUninst.exe from the Windows directory

and
> > try running your setup again. If IsUninst.exe cannot be deleted because

it
> > is in use, try to reboot the machine and run the setup again.
> >
> > Don't forget that you should have a System Restore point that was set

just
> > before all this happened. That may be your best shot at resolving
> > this.....I think I would try the SR first!!
> >
> > Hope that helps resolve the issue.
> >
> > Heirloom, old and too bad humans don't

> have
> > an SR
> >
> >
> >
> > "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:e%23OYd8SgIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > > Hi;
> > > About 2 weeks ago, while dl'ing new defs for Spybot S&D, a newer

> version
> > > of Spybot began to self-install. Without thinking (which is the cause

> of
> > > most of my problems!), I let it proceed. Halfway thru, it choked. I
> > > dl'ed
> > > the new version and successfully installed it but it brought my system

> to
> > > a
> > > crawl, so I uninstalled it and re-installed the older version. Since
> > > then,
> > > I can't install any other programs. I get the following message:
> > >
> > > Setup Initialization Error
> > > Setup has detected that unInstallShield is in use. Please close
> > > unInstallShield and restart setup. Error 432
> > >
> > > Using Process Explorer, I don't see unInstallShield running so I

guess
> a
> > > registry key was corrupted, but which one and what should it be?
> > >
> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA...gjw
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > George J. Wallace
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>
 
Re: InstallShield problem

George, you don't say how long ago you fell into this hole but you *might* -
if you're lucky - still have a 'good' registry in your sysbckup folder.
(Usually the last 5 days worth)

You could try a scanreg /restore and see if there's a 'good' one - preceding
the hole - still there.

Otherwise, its the hard way!

Mart


"George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
news:enNQxaYgIHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hi;
> I had no luck with the system restore - it said that there were no
> restore
> points available. Just as additional information, I've checked my system
> with both CA antivirus and AVG and both said the system is clean. I've
> gone
> through most of the macrovision kb and they have nothing about an error
> msg
> that doesn't show a msg or number.
> I'm going to try running an install with Process Explorer running. I
> know
> that shouldn't have any background processes running during the install
> but
> this may show me at what step the install is breaking or what process it's
> trying to call...gjw
>
> "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:OcFaqhVgIHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hi;
>> First, thanks for all the quick replies. As usual, solve one problem

> and
>> get another. As Heirloom suggested, I deleted IsUninst.exe and got a

> little
>> farther along in the install process but then got an error msg saying I
>> didn't have enough room in the Temp folder. I cleaned it out and now the
>> install goes a little farther before giving me an error msg with no text

> at
>> all, just an "OK" button (now that's hilarious!). Unfortunately, it's
>> not
>> even leaving behind a log file that might tell me more. I'll try the

> System
>> Restore next. Thanks again...gjw
>>
>> "Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
>> news:eaIhbeTgIHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> > I believe you may have corrupted the Uninstall shield when the original
>> > install failed and you then performed the uninstall. Before you
>> > attempt

>> any
>> > of the steps below, read through some of the articles here:
>> > http://knowledge.macrovision.com/selfservice/microsites/searchEntry.do
>> >
>> > This could be happening if IsUninst.exe is corrupted on your machine.
>> > IsUninst.exe is the InstallShield uninstallation file, and when it is
>> > corrupted it might appear to be in use even though it is not showing up

> as
>> a
>> > process that is running in the Task Manager or your Process Explorer.

>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ------
>> > Try to Delete all instances of IsUninst.exe from the Windows directory

> and
>> > try running your setup again. If IsUninst.exe cannot be deleted because

> it
>> > is in use, try to reboot the machine and run the setup again.
>> >
>> > Don't forget that you should have a System Restore point that was set

> just
>> > before all this happened. That may be your best shot at resolving
>> > this.....I think I would try the SR first!!
>> >
>> > Hope that helps resolve the issue.
>> >
>> > Heirloom, old and too bad humans don't

>> have
>> > an SR
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:e%23OYd8SgIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > > Hi;
>> > > About 2 weeks ago, while dl'ing new defs for Spybot S&D, a newer

>> version
>> > > of Spybot began to self-install. Without thinking (which is the
>> > > cause

>> of
>> > > most of my problems!), I let it proceed. Halfway thru, it choked. I
>> > > dl'ed
>> > > the new version and successfully installed it but it brought my
>> > > system

>> to
>> > > a
>> > > crawl, so I uninstalled it and re-installed the older version. Since
>> > > then,
>> > > I can't install any other programs. I get the following message:
>> > >
>> > > Setup Initialization Error
>> > > Setup has detected that unInstallShield is in use. Please close
>> > > unInstallShield and restart setup. Error 432
>> > >
>> > > Using Process Explorer, I don't see unInstallShield running so I

> guess
>> a
>> > > registry key was corrupted, but which one and what should it be?
>> > >
>> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA...gjw
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > George J. Wallace
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>
 
Re: InstallShield problem

> remembering that over a year ago you bailed me out

I thought I recognised your 'Handle', George <g>

> If I can just find the CD, then
> I should be golden


Hmm, I suspect that a registry which is anywhere near approaching 12 months
or more old, might cause more far problems than it resolves! - not to
mention the effects of the poking about that you allude to have undertaken
in trying to resolve things

Seems to me from this distance that if there's nothing suitable in the
sysbckup folder to work with, then you are almost out of further options and
I suppose therefore that a very old registry may be worth a try as a last
resort. Whether its worth the time and effort is up to you, but be aware, if
that doesn't work and screws things up big-time, you're probably left with a
Clean Install as the ultimate solution - unless you can live with what
you've got!

Good luck

Mart


"George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
news:eSOJpsfgIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi;
> Thanks Mart! That tickled one of my few remaining brain cells into
> remembering that over a year ago you bailed me out of a bad video driver
> problem. After the problem was fixed, I backed up the registry to CD. If
> I
> can just find the CD, then I should be golden. Thank you Very
> Much!!...gjw
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:uTvlk9cgIHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> George, you don't say how long ago you fell into this hole but you

> *might* -
>> if you're lucky - still have a 'good' registry in your sysbckup folder.
>> (Usually the last 5 days worth)
>>
>> You could try a scanreg /restore and see if there's a 'good' one -

> preceding
>> the hole - still there.
>>
>> Otherwise, its the hard way!
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>> "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:enNQxaYgIHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> > Hi;
>> > I had no luck with the system restore - it said that there were no
>> > restore
>> > points available. Just as additional information, I've checked my

> system
>> > with both CA antivirus and AVG and both said the system is clean. I've
>> > gone
>> > through most of the macrovision kb and they have nothing about an error
>> > msg
>> > that doesn't show a msg or number.
>> > I'm going to try running an install with Process Explorer running. I
>> > know
>> > that shouldn't have any background processes running during the install
>> > but
>> > this may show me at what step the install is breaking or what process

> it's
>> > trying to call...gjw
>> >
>> > "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:OcFaqhVgIHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> Hi;
>> >> First, thanks for all the quick replies. As usual, solve one
>> >> problem
>> > and
>> >> get another. As Heirloom suggested, I deleted IsUninst.exe and got a
>> > little
>> >> farther along in the install process but then got an error msg saying
>> >> I
>> >> didn't have enough room in the Temp folder. I cleaned it out and now

> the
>> >> install goes a little farther before giving me an error msg with no

> text
>> > at
>> >> all, just an "OK" button (now that's hilarious!). Unfortunately, it's
>> >> not
>> >> even leaving behind a log file that might tell me more. I'll try the
>> > System
>> >> Restore next. Thanks again...gjw
>> >>
>> >> "Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
>> >> news:eaIhbeTgIHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> > I believe you may have corrupted the Uninstall shield when the

> original
>> >> > install failed and you then performed the uninstall. Before you
>> >> > attempt
>> >> any
>> >> > of the steps below, read through some of the articles here:
>> >> >

> http://knowledge.macrovision.com/selfservice/microsites/searchEntry.do
>> >> >
>> >> > This could be happening if IsUninst.exe is corrupted on your
>> >> > machine.
>> >> > IsUninst.exe is the InstallShield uninstallation file, and when it
>> >> > is
>> >> > corrupted it might appear to be in use even though it is not showing

> up
>> > as
>> >> a
>> >> > process that is running in the Task Manager or your Process
>> >> > Explorer.
>> >>

>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------

> -
>> >> ------
>> >> > Try to Delete all instances of IsUninst.exe from the Windows

> directory
>> > and
>> >> > try running your setup again. If IsUninst.exe cannot be deleted

> because
>> > it
>> >> > is in use, try to reboot the machine and run the setup again.
>> >> >
>> >> > Don't forget that you should have a System Restore point that was
>> >> > set
>> > just
>> >> > before all this happened. That may be your best shot at resolving
>> >> > this.....I think I would try the SR first!!
>> >> >
>> >> > Hope that helps resolve the issue.
>> >> >
>> >> > Heirloom, old and too bad humans

> don't
>> >> have
>> >> > an SR
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:e%23OYd8SgIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> > > Hi;
>> >> > > About 2 weeks ago, while dl'ing new defs for Spybot S&D, a newer
>> >> version
>> >> > > of Spybot began to self-install. Without thinking (which is the
>> >> > > cause
>> >> of
>> >> > > most of my problems!), I let it proceed. Halfway thru, it choked.

> I
>> >> > > dl'ed
>> >> > > the new version and successfully installed it but it brought my
>> >> > > system
>> >> to
>> >> > > a
>> >> > > crawl, so I uninstalled it and re-installed the older version.

> Since
>> >> > > then,
>> >> > > I can't install any other programs. I get the following message:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Setup Initialization Error
>> >> > > Setup has detected that unInstallShield is in use. Please close
>> >> > > unInstallShield and restart setup. Error 432
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Using Process Explorer, I don't see unInstallShield running so I
>> > guess
>> >> a
>> >> > > registry key was corrupted, but which one and what should it be?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA...gjw
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > George J. Wallace
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >

>>
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>
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Re: InstallShield problem

Hi;
Thanks Mart! That tickled one of my few remaining brain cells into
remembering that over a year ago you bailed me out of a bad video driver
problem. After the problem was fixed, I backed up the registry to CD. If I
can just find the CD, then I should be golden. Thank you Very Much!!...gjw

"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:uTvlk9cgIHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> George, you don't say how long ago you fell into this hole but you

*might* -
> if you're lucky - still have a 'good' registry in your sysbckup folder.
> (Usually the last 5 days worth)
>
> You could try a scanreg /restore and see if there's a 'good' one -

preceding
> the hole - still there.
>
> Otherwise, its the hard way!
>
> Mart
>
>
> "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:enNQxaYgIHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Hi;
> > I had no luck with the system restore - it said that there were no
> > restore
> > points available. Just as additional information, I've checked my

system
> > with both CA antivirus and AVG and both said the system is clean. I've
> > gone
> > through most of the macrovision kb and they have nothing about an error
> > msg
> > that doesn't show a msg or number.
> > I'm going to try running an install with Process Explorer running. I
> > know
> > that shouldn't have any background processes running during the install
> > but
> > this may show me at what step the install is breaking or what process

it's
> > trying to call...gjw
> >
> > "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:OcFaqhVgIHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> Hi;
> >> First, thanks for all the quick replies. As usual, solve one problem

> > and
> >> get another. As Heirloom suggested, I deleted IsUninst.exe and got a

> > little
> >> farther along in the install process but then got an error msg saying I
> >> didn't have enough room in the Temp folder. I cleaned it out and now

the
> >> install goes a little farther before giving me an error msg with no

text
> > at
> >> all, just an "OK" button (now that's hilarious!). Unfortunately, it's
> >> not
> >> even leaving behind a log file that might tell me more. I'll try the

> > System
> >> Restore next. Thanks again...gjw
> >>
> >> "Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
> >> news:eaIhbeTgIHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> > I believe you may have corrupted the Uninstall shield when the

original
> >> > install failed and you then performed the uninstall. Before you
> >> > attempt
> >> any
> >> > of the steps below, read through some of the articles here:
> >> >

http://knowledge.macrovision.com/selfservice/microsites/searchEntry.do
> >> >
> >> > This could be happening if IsUninst.exe is corrupted on your machine.
> >> > IsUninst.exe is the InstallShield uninstallation file, and when it is
> >> > corrupted it might appear to be in use even though it is not showing

up
> > as
> >> a
> >> > process that is running in the Task Manager or your Process Explorer.
> >>

>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------

-
> >> ------
> >> > Try to Delete all instances of IsUninst.exe from the Windows

directory
> > and
> >> > try running your setup again. If IsUninst.exe cannot be deleted

because
> > it
> >> > is in use, try to reboot the machine and run the setup again.
> >> >
> >> > Don't forget that you should have a System Restore point that was set

> > just
> >> > before all this happened. That may be your best shot at resolving
> >> > this.....I think I would try the SR first!!
> >> >
> >> > Hope that helps resolve the issue.
> >> >
> >> > Heirloom, old and too bad humans

don't
> >> have
> >> > an SR
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:e%23OYd8SgIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> > > Hi;
> >> > > About 2 weeks ago, while dl'ing new defs for Spybot S&D, a newer
> >> version
> >> > > of Spybot began to self-install. Without thinking (which is the
> >> > > cause
> >> of
> >> > > most of my problems!), I let it proceed. Halfway thru, it choked.

I
> >> > > dl'ed
> >> > > the new version and successfully installed it but it brought my
> >> > > system
> >> to
> >> > > a
> >> > > crawl, so I uninstalled it and re-installed the older version.

Since
> >> > > then,
> >> > > I can't install any other programs. I get the following message:
> >> > >
> >> > > Setup Initialization Error
> >> > > Setup has detected that unInstallShield is in use. Please close
> >> > > unInstallShield and restart setup. Error 432
> >> > >
> >> > > Using Process Explorer, I don't see unInstallShield running so I

> > guess
> >> a
> >> > > registry key was corrupted, but which one and what should it be?
> >> > >
> >> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA...gjw
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > George J. Wallace
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>
 
Re: InstallShield problem

Hi Mart;
Thanks for the warning about using the old registry backup. The logical
next step before I really mess up is to get in touch with Macrovision and
see if they have a solution. Thanks, again, for all of your help both on
this problem and on previous ones. You've been a real life saver!...gjw

"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:uuLJUOggIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > remembering that over a year ago you bailed me out

>
> I thought I recognised your 'Handle', George <g>
>
> > If I can just find the CD, then
> > I should be golden

>
> Hmm, I suspect that a registry which is anywhere near approaching 12

months
> or more old, might cause more far problems than it resolves! - not to
> mention the effects of the poking about that you allude to have undertaken
> in trying to resolve things
>
> Seems to me from this distance that if there's nothing suitable in the
> sysbckup folder to work with, then you are almost out of further options

and
> I suppose therefore that a very old registry may be worth a try as a last
> resort. Whether its worth the time and effort is up to you, but be aware,

if
> that doesn't work and screws things up big-time, you're probably left with

a
> Clean Install as the ultimate solution - unless you can live with what
> you've got!
>
> Good luck
>
> Mart
>
>
> "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:eSOJpsfgIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > Hi;
> > Thanks Mart! That tickled one of my few remaining brain cells into
> > remembering that over a year ago you bailed me out of a bad video driver
> > problem. After the problem was fixed, I backed up the registry to CD.

If
> > I
> > can just find the CD, then I should be golden. Thank you Very
> > Much!!...gjw
> >
> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> > news:uTvlk9cgIHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> George, you don't say how long ago you fell into this hole but you

> > *might* -
> >> if you're lucky - still have a 'good' registry in your sysbckup folder.
> >> (Usually the last 5 days worth)
> >>
> >> You could try a scanreg /restore and see if there's a 'good' one -

> > preceding
> >> the hole - still there.
> >>
> >> Otherwise, its the hard way!
> >>
> >> Mart
> >>
> >>
> >> "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:enNQxaYgIHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> > Hi;
> >> > I had no luck with the system restore - it said that there were no
> >> > restore
> >> > points available. Just as additional information, I've checked my

> > system
> >> > with both CA antivirus and AVG and both said the system is clean.

I've
> >> > gone
> >> > through most of the macrovision kb and they have nothing about an

error
> >> > msg
> >> > that doesn't show a msg or number.
> >> > I'm going to try running an install with Process Explorer running.

I
> >> > know
> >> > that shouldn't have any background processes running during the

install
> >> > but
> >> > this may show me at what step the install is breaking or what process

> > it's
> >> > trying to call...gjw
> >> >
> >> > "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:OcFaqhVgIHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Hi;
> >> >> First, thanks for all the quick replies. As usual, solve one
> >> >> problem
> >> > and
> >> >> get another. As Heirloom suggested, I deleted IsUninst.exe and got

a
> >> > little
> >> >> farther along in the install process but then got an error msg

saying
> >> >> I
> >> >> didn't have enough room in the Temp folder. I cleaned it out and

now
> > the
> >> >> install goes a little farther before giving me an error msg with no

> > text
> >> > at
> >> >> all, just an "OK" button (now that's hilarious!). Unfortunately,

it's
> >> >> not
> >> >> even leaving behind a log file that might tell me more. I'll try the
> >> > System
> >> >> Restore next. Thanks again...gjw
> >> >>
> >> >> "Heirloom" <nobodyhome@noplacelike.hom> wrote in message
> >> >> news:eaIhbeTgIHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > I believe you may have corrupted the Uninstall shield when the

> > original
> >> >> > install failed and you then performed the uninstall. Before you
> >> >> > attempt
> >> >> any
> >> >> > of the steps below, read through some of the articles here:
> >> >> >

> > http://knowledge.macrovision.com/selfservice/microsites/searchEntry.do
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This could be happening if IsUninst.exe is corrupted on your
> >> >> > machine.
> >> >> > IsUninst.exe is the InstallShield uninstallation file, and when it
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > corrupted it might appear to be in use even though it is not

showing
> > up
> >> > as
> >> >> a
> >> >> > process that is running in the Task Manager or your Process
> >> >> > Explorer.
> >> >>
> >>

>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

-
> > -
> >> >> ------
> >> >> > Try to Delete all instances of IsUninst.exe from the Windows

> > directory
> >> > and
> >> >> > try running your setup again. If IsUninst.exe cannot be deleted

> > because
> >> > it
> >> >> > is in use, try to reboot the machine and run the setup again.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Don't forget that you should have a System Restore point that was
> >> >> > set
> >> > just
> >> >> > before all this happened. That may be your best shot at resolving
> >> >> > this.....I think I would try the SR first!!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hope that helps resolve the issue.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Heirloom, old and too bad humans

> > don't
> >> >> have
> >> >> > an SR
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "George J. Wallace" <georgejwallace@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:e%23OYd8SgIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > > Hi;
> >> >> > > About 2 weeks ago, while dl'ing new defs for Spybot S&D, a

newer
> >> >> version
> >> >> > > of Spybot began to self-install. Without thinking (which is the
> >> >> > > cause
> >> >> of
> >> >> > > most of my problems!), I let it proceed. Halfway thru, it

choked.
> > I
> >> >> > > dl'ed
> >> >> > > the new version and successfully installed it but it brought my
> >> >> > > system
> >> >> to
> >> >> > > a
> >> >> > > crawl, so I uninstalled it and re-installed the older version.

> > Since
> >> >> > > then,
> >> >> > > I can't install any other programs. I get the following

message:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Setup Initialization Error
> >> >> > > Setup has detected that unInstallShield is in use. Please

close
> >> >> > > unInstallShield and restart setup. Error 432
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Using Process Explorer, I don't see unInstallShield running so

I
> >> > guess
> >> >> a
> >> >> > > registry key was corrupted, but which one and what should it be?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA...gjw
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > --
> >> >> > > George J. Wallace
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>
 
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