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Re: Article: 10 Things I Warned Microsoft About Windows Vista



"On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message

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> have you seen microsofts vista specifications?

> 1 ghz and 512 mb ram they say as the least powerful configuration needed.

>

> and that technology is 6 years old at least... since a 1.4 ghz cpu existed 

> in 2000

>

> so who is dumb then???

>


You!


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> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message 

> news:%23NK9hSEiIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Kind of dumb to try to run a new os on a 6 year old machine.  Enjoy 

>> Linux.

>>

>> "Administrator" <larsenvl@yahoo.com> wrote in message 

>> news:3B47F841-1580-425A-8868-058FB8DF0740@microsoft.com...

>>> Wow, There needs to be an uprising of disgruntled vista

>>> users and microsoft needs  to fix the damn thing. (vista)

>>> I am a college student and spent good money on updating my pc and also 

>>> bought a new laptop.  Man, was that a mistake!  My machine I built in 

>>> 2002 and has xp on it and runs so much better! I am so disappointed and 

>>> am investigating open source because I am sick of being at the mercy of 

>>> an OS that does not function properly.

>>> vista sucks the big one! and I cannot even downgrade because they put 

>>> vista home pre. on the machines I bought.  What crap! and thousands of 

>>> dollars later I have

>>> an Os that I do not like!  Microsoft better listen to us or linux will 

>>> be on the horizon and looming large!

>>> "On the Bridge!" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message 

>>> news:47de8718@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>>> http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/vista/10_things_i_warned_microsoft_about_windows_vista.html

>>>>

>>>> this is an article by Joe Wilcox

>>>> and he states:

>>>> "I worked as an analyst when Microsoft developed Windows Vista. Execs 

>>>> asked for my advice, and they got it. Did they listen?"

>>>>

>>>> But of course the vistaboys and frank king of the apes, will just 

>>>> discredit him too...

>>>> it seems like they think that their own experience is better than US 

>>>> pros..

>>>> yes me included... with over 25 years of computer experience, I know 

>>>> when an OS is POS.

>>>>

>>>> let the mud flow freely for vista!

>>>> let the truth shine, and THEN lets decide if we should use it or not...

>>>> not get it shoved down our throughts in the dark (not mine but the 

>>>> average user)

>>>>

>>>> here is the text of the article

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> The imminent real release of Windows Vista Service Pack 1 is reason 

>>>> enough to broach the question. SP1 is an important milestone for an 

>>>> operating system that bloggers and other critics consistently ridicule. 

>>>> Oh, yeah, the channel and enterprises aren't exactly loving Vista 

>>>> either.

>>>> These 10 things are in no particular order of importance.

>>>> 1. Windows Vista has to be a whole lot better than Windows XP. 

>>>> Microsoft had left XP in the market for a long time. That version of 

>>>> Windows had reached a certain "good enough" threshold, in part because 

>>>> of the stable, supporting ecosystem. Vista would have to be a whole lot 

>>>> better to drive upgrades in established markets. I received assurances 

>>>> that Vista would deliver on the promise, which was later accentuated in 

>>>> the "Wow" marketing. What happened: Vista wasn't better enough.

>>>> 2. Vista will miss the big PC upgrade cycle. A major enterprise PC 

>>>> refresh cycle started in 2004 and continued through mid-2006. In early 

>>>> 2006, I warned Microsoft executives that Vista would ship too late. 

>>>> What happened: The major upgrade cycle wound down, but computer sales 

>>>> remained strong because of consumer upgrades and a massive shift to 

>>>> portables. So, Vista missed the big hardware refresh cycle but caught 

>>>> another one. However, in part because of #1, many businesses opted for 

>>>> Windows XP instead of Vista on those shiny, new notebooks.

>>>> 3. Windows Vista Home Basic is too basic. I strongly recommended 

>>>> against Microsoft's releasing this version at any price. Microsoft 

>>>> executives insisted that OEMs wanted a low-cost Vista version for cheap 

>>>> PCs. But Basic offered less than Windows XP Home for about the same 

>>>> price. I called it a hidden price increase. What happened: There is 

>>>> limited demand for Home Basic.

>>>> 4. Call it Windows Basic. Vista Home Basic was so defeatured, I 

>>>> strongly encouraged Microsoft to remove the Vista name from the 

>>>> product. I warned that Basic would tarnish the broader Vista brand and 

>>>> that its streamlined features put it in a lower category. I bet a 

>>>> Microsoft product manager $100 that Windows Basic would become the 

>>>> default nomenclature. What happened: Other problems affecting every 

>>>> Vista version, such as applications and drivers incompatibilities, 

>>>> overshadowed Basic's weak feature set. Oh yeah, I owe somebody at 

>>>> Microsoft 100 bucks. I don't recall who you are, but don't feel impish 

>>>> about collecting.

>>>> 5. Vista reminds too much of Windows Me. In late 2006, I had dinner 

>>>> with some Vista user interface designers. By then, I had used Vista 

>>>> betas for nearly 10 months. They heard: There are two Microsoft 

>>>> operating systems that the more I used them the less I liked 

>>>> them-Windows Me and Windows Vista. While not my intention, the comment 

>>>> hugely insulted the UI designers, because of how much Windows Me is 

>>>> regarded, even within Microsoft, as a marketing failure. What happened: 

>>>> Some critics have described Vista as Windows Me II.

>>>> 6. One Vista version is enough. I opposed Microsoft's Vista SKU 

>>>> strategy from the first presentation and, later, after some tweaking. I 

>>>> explained that Windows isn't toothpaste. Too many versions would 

>>>> confuse customers, creating an unnecessary impediment to Vista 

>>>> upgrades. How could Vista be perceived as better enough if the buying 

>>>> experience was more difficult than XP? I strongly advocated a 

>>>> one-version strategy, but with differentiated OEM pricing depending on 

>>>> features used by the hardware. I reasoned the approach would simplify 

>>>> Windows purchasing while encouraging greater PC differentiation. What 

>>>> happened: The OEM market has largely consolidated around a single 

>>>> version: Vista Home Premium for consumers. It's all Gateway sells, for 

>>>> example. Many enterprises are adopting Vista Enterprise, which is a 

>>>> volume licensing-only option.

>>>> 7. It has to be multiple SKUs or Windows Experience Index, but not 

>>>> both. WEI would confuse Vista buyers because the ratings would 

>>>> contradict with some versions. For example, Vista Ultimate could 

>>>> conceivably ship on a notebook with WEI of 3.0 (out of a possible 5.9). 

>>>> Customers would ask: If it's so ultimate, why is the rating so slow? I 

>>>> liked the WEI concept more than the SKU strategy and recommended 

>>>> choosing only the ratings scheme. What happened: WEI ratings were low 

>>>> the first year on notebooks, even those with Vista Ultimate.

>>>> 8. Vista demands too much. From my earliest product briefings, 

>>>> Microsoft executives carted around big honking laptops-luggables-to get 

>>>> enough processing and graphics power to run early Vista builds. I was 

>>>> told Vista would need less power closer to release. Nope. I got my 

>>>> first Vista test system in February 2006. WEI: 2.0, on above-average 

>>>> hardware. What happened: OEMs shipped computers underpowered for Vista, 

>>>> even through holiday 2007. The operating system demands too much from 

>>>> even modestly older hardware.

>>>> 9. Windows Vista Capable is a bad idea. Why could Microsoft possibly 

>>>> need two Vista logo programs? The connotations around Capable and Ready 

>>>> were either too alike or too confusing. I said that there should be one 

>>>> program for which everything truly was ready. Unfortunately, Microsoft 

>>>> didn't consult me on the logo programs, so I gave my advice after the 

>>>> Capable logo announcement. What happened: A Vista Capable class-action 

>>>> lawsuit revealed embarrassing Microsoft e-mails about Windows Vista 

>>>> decision-making processes-or lack of them.

>>>> 10. Vista security features increase complexity, decrease usability. 

>>>> Oh, I was a loud critic of UAC (User Account Control) and Internet 

>>>> Explorer warnings. I argued that Microsoft had made Vista much harder 

>>>> to use than Windows XP. The experience would be worse for many users. 

>>>> Going back to #1, Vista had to be a lot better, not perceptually worse. 

>>>> What happened: UAC warnings hurt usability but caused more troubles; 

>>>> new user rights mechanism broke many applications.

>>>>

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