Another Licensing Question......

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We have an SBS2003 domain and upgraded a 2000 Terminal Server to 2003. We
needed to add some licenses since we no longer had the "free' ones for XP
users. The original group of CALS were per device. The CALS I bought to add
were per user. After installing the new per user CALS the Terminal Server
Licensing console shows "Not Applicable" under the issued column. I take it
you can not have both versions of CALS on the same license server?? Where do
we go from here?

Thanks,

Randy
 
Re: Another Licensing Question......

In Windows 2003, your Per User licenses are listed as "Not Applicable"
because Per User licenses are unmanaged in Server 2003, as documented in
KB822134, and won't be issued at all.
You will need to monitor your licenses manually.
Yes it is true, you're not possible to install per user and per device
modes on the same license server. Decide what licensing mode you will use
and configure server for that, if you have one user connecting from
multiple devices choose per user, if you have one device and multiple users
on it choose per device.

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Terminal Services and Citrix Presentation Server user logging
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Re: Another Licensing Question......

It's perfectly possible to install both Per User and Per Device TS
CALs on the same TS Licensing Server!

It's not possible to configure a Terminal Server to use more than
one licensing mode at the same time. But you can have different
Terminal Servers, using different licensing modes, connecting to
the same TS Licensing Server.
You are even allowed to use both Per User and Per Device TS CALs on
a single TS. This is documented in the same KB article that you
refer to:

"To use both User and Device TS CALs simultaneously on the same
terminal server, the server must be configured for Per User TS CAL
mode."

But the manual administration of the TS CALs becomes rather
complicated. So it's a good idea, but not a requirement, to use a
single type of licenses on each Terminal Server.

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Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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Frane <frane.borozan@gmail. remove com> wrote on 11 apr 2008 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> In Windows 2003, your Per User licenses are listed as "Not
> Applicable" because Per User licenses are unmanaged in Server
> 2003, as documented in KB822134, and won't be issued at all.
> You will need to monitor your licenses manually.
> Yes it is true, you're not possible to install per user and per
> device modes on the same license server. Decide what licensing
> mode you will use and configure server for that, if you have one
> user connecting from multiple devices choose per user, if you
> have one device and multiple users on it choose per device.
 
Re: Another Licensing Question......

Thanks Vera,

A follow-up question: We were out of device CALS and the temporary CALS are
expiring soon. As I said, I added 5 user CALS. I've now changed the Terminal
Server to use the user CALS. Will the machines that've pulled a temoprary
device CAL be able to connect to the server after the expiration of the
device CAL since the server is now using user CALS??

Thanks again,

Randy




"Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.noest@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote in message
news:Xns9A7E8610BB1F6veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...
> It's perfectly possible to install both Per User and Per Device TS
> CALs on the same TS Licensing Server!
>
> It's not possible to configure a Terminal Server to use more than
> one licensing mode at the same time. But you can have different
> Terminal Servers, using different licensing modes, connecting to
> the same TS Licensing Server.
> You are even allowed to use both Per User and Per Device TS CALs on
> a single TS. This is documented in the same KB article that you
> refer to:
>
> "To use both User and Device TS CALs simultaneously on the same
> terminal server, the server must be configured for Per User TS CAL
> mode."
>
> But the manual administration of the TS CALs becomes rather
> complicated. So it's a good idea, but not a requirement, to use a
> single type of licenses on each Terminal Server.
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> Frane <frane.borozan@gmail. remove com> wrote on 11 apr 2008 in
> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
>> In Windows 2003, your Per User licenses are listed as "Not
>> Applicable" because Per User licenses are unmanaged in Server
>> 2003, as documented in KB822134, and won't be issued at all.
>> You will need to monitor your licenses manually.
>> Yes it is true, you're not possible to install per user and per
>> device modes on the same license server. Decide what licensing
>> mode you will use and configure server for that, if you have one
>> user connecting from multiple devices choose per user, if you
>> have one device and multiple users on it choose per device.
 
Re: Another Licensing Question......

Yes. Machines will be able to connect to TS (Per User Mode) even if they
have TS Per Device expired CALs.

Ratnesh

"R. Platt" <rplatt@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:unD7iUbnIHA.5820@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Thanks Vera,
>
> A follow-up question: We were out of device CALS and the temporary CALS
> are expiring soon. As I said, I added 5 user CALS. I've now changed the
> Terminal Server to use the user CALS. Will the machines that've pulled a
> temoprary device CAL be able to connect to the server after the expiration
> of the device CAL since the server is now using user CALS??
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Randy
>
>
>
>
> "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.noest@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A7E8610BB1F6veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...
>> It's perfectly possible to install both Per User and Per Device TS
>> CALs on the same TS Licensing Server!
>>
>> It's not possible to configure a Terminal Server to use more than
>> one licensing mode at the same time. But you can have different
>> Terminal Servers, using different licensing modes, connecting to
>> the same TS Licensing Server.
>> You are even allowed to use both Per User and Per Device TS CALs on
>> a single TS. This is documented in the same KB article that you
>> refer to:
>>
>> "To use both User and Device TS CALs simultaneously on the same
>> terminal server, the server must be configured for Per User TS CAL
>> mode."
>>
>> But the manual administration of the TS CALs becomes rather
>> complicated. So it's a good idea, but not a requirement, to use a
>> single type of licenses on each Terminal Server.
>>
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Vera Noest
>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>>
>> Frane <frane.borozan@gmail. remove com> wrote on 11 apr 2008 in
>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>
>>> In Windows 2003, your Per User licenses are listed as "Not
>>> Applicable" because Per User licenses are unmanaged in Server
>>> 2003, as documented in KB822134, and won't be issued at all.
>>> You will need to monitor your licenses manually.
>>> Yes it is true, you're not possible to install per user and per
>>> device modes on the same license server. Decide what licensing
>>> mode you will use and configure server for that, if you have one
>>> user connecting from multiple devices choose per user, if you
>>> have one device and multiple users on it choose per device.
>
>
 
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