Won't Upgrade!

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Hey Everyone,

Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes
pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate Upgrade
Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP. When
I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to
Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested
that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.

Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't
make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are
pending.

So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean Install,
only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
 
Re: Won't Upgrade!

I would wonder about SP1. If you current installation has
been updated to SP1 and the DVD is the RTM (no Service Pack)
then this may be the problem.

If you have SP1, you should be able to remove it and then
try the upgrade. Or, you would need a DVD with SP1.



Seidell23231 wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
>
> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes
> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate Upgrade
> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP. When
> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to
> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested
> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.
>
> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't
> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are
> pending.
>
> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean Install,
> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.
>
> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
 
RE: Won't Upgrade!

WOW, that makes total sense! HP is SP1 and UT is NOT! OK.............

So, how do I go about removing SP1 (Programs & Features)????

Thanks! ~~~~~ Joey



"Seidell23231" wrote:

> Hey Everyone,
>
> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes
> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate Upgrade
> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP. When
> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to
> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested
> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.
>
> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't
> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are
> pending.
>
> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean Install,
> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.
>
> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
 
Re: Won't Upgrade!

Go to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948537

There's a How To on removing SP1.

Here's an article with additional links:
http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9071138&intsrc=hm_list

And another one:
http://hardware.gamershell.com/forum/showthread.php?p=31555


Seidell23231 wrote:
> WOW, that makes total sense! HP is SP1 and UT is NOT! OK.............
>
> So, how do I go about removing SP1 (Programs & Features)????
>
> Thanks! ~~~~~ Joey
>
>
>
> "Seidell23231" wrote:
>
>> Hey Everyone,
>>
>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes
>> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate Upgrade
>> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP. When
>> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to
>> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested
>> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.
>>
>> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't
>> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are
>> pending.
>>
>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean Install,
>> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.
>>
>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
 
Re: Won't Upgrade!

Theo, your the man! Thanks ~~ Joey



"Theo" wrote:

> Go to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948537
>
> There's a How To on removing SP1.
>
> Here's an article with additional links:
> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9071138&intsrc=hm_list
>
> And another one:
> http://hardware.gamershell.com/forum/showthread.php?p=31555
>
>
> Seidell23231 wrote:
> > WOW, that makes total sense! HP is SP1 and UT is NOT! OK.............
> >
> > So, how do I go about removing SP1 (Programs & Features)????
> >
> > Thanks! ~~~~~ Joey
> >
> >
> >
> > "Seidell23231" wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Everyone,
> >>
> >> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes
> >> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate Upgrade
> >> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP. When
> >> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to
> >> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested
> >> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.
> >>
> >> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't
> >> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are
> >> pending.
> >>
> >> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean Install,
> >> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.
> >>
> >> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
>
 
Re: Won't Upgrade!

Theo,

Neither of your options are valid in my case. The PC came preloaded with HP
SP1 already loaded. So there is not download upgrade to delete, since SP1
was not acquired in that fashion.

Now what?????????????????????? ~~~~~~ Joey



"Theo" wrote:

> Go to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948537
>
> There's a How To on removing SP1.
>
> Here's an article with additional links:
> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9071138&intsrc=hm_list
>
> And another one:
> http://hardware.gamershell.com/forum/showthread.php?p=31555
>
>
> Seidell23231 wrote:
> > WOW, that makes total sense! HP is SP1 and UT is NOT! OK.............
> >
> > So, how do I go about removing SP1 (Programs & Features)????
> >
> > Thanks! ~~~~~ Joey
> >
> >
> >
> > "Seidell23231" wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Everyone,
> >>
> >> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes
> >> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate Upgrade
> >> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP. When
> >> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to
> >> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested
> >> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.
> >>
> >> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't
> >> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are
> >> pending.
> >>
> >> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean Install,
> >> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.
> >>
> >> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
>
 
Re: Won't Upgrade!

He cannot remove an integrated SP1. There is a big difference between an OS
that has been upgraded to a new service pack level and an OS that already is
at that service pack level. SP1 cannot be uninstalled from an integrated
image.

"Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OKOTa8lnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I would wonder about SP1. If you current installation has been updated to
>SP1 and the DVD is the RTM (no Service Pack) then this may be the problem.
>
> If you have SP1, you should be able to remove it and then try the upgrade.
> Or, you would need a DVD with SP1.
>
>
>
> Seidell23231 wrote:
>> Hey Everyone,
>>
>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes
>> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate
>> Upgrade Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for
>> Vista HP. When I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me
>> to Upgrade, only to Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade
>> disabled. It suggested that I use a more up to date version and than
>> retry the Upgrade. Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90%
>> correct. What doesn't make sense is that ALL of the updates have been
>> completed and none are pending.
>>
>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean
>> Install, only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.
>>
>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
 
Re: Won't Upgrade!

That article only applies to SP1 that is an upgrade to Vista rtm. It does
not work with an integrated Vista SP1.

"Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OFHMrEnnIHA.4664@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Go to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948537
>
> There's a How To on removing SP1.
>
> Here's an article with additional links:
> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9071138&intsrc=hm_list
>
> And another one:
> http://hardware.gamershell.com/forum/showthread.php?p=31555
>
>
> Seidell23231 wrote:
>> WOW, that makes total sense! HP is SP1 and UT is NOT! OK.............
>>
>> So, how do I go about removing SP1 (Programs & Features)????
>>
>> Thanks! ~~~~~ Joey
>>
>>
>>
>> "Seidell23231" wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>
>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes
>>> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate
>>> Upgrade Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for
>>> Vista HP. When I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me
>>> to Upgrade, only to Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade
>>> disabled. It suggested that I use a more up to date version and than
>>> retry the Upgrade.
>>> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What
>>> doesn't make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and
>>> none are pending.
>>>
>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean
>>> Install, only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.
>>>
>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
 
Re: Won't Upgrade!

You need to obtain a new dvd from MS or the retailer where you purchased the
package. There is no other method since you cannot slipstream Vista like
you could with XP. You can order one dvd from
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/default.mspx using
your upgrade product key for shipping and handling cost. The dvds available
there are integrated dvds by this time. I would see if the retailer will do
the exchange first, however.

"Seidell23231" <Seidell23231@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F769B457-735A-4174-9544-D8DC6F6E7CDC@microsoft.com...
> Theo,
>
> Neither of your options are valid in my case. The PC came preloaded with
> HP
> SP1 already loaded. So there is not download upgrade to delete, since SP1
> was not acquired in that fashion.
>
> Now what?????????????????????? ~~~~~~ Joey
>
>
>
> "Theo" wrote:
>
>> Go to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948537
>>
>> There's a How To on removing SP1.
>>
>> Here's an article with additional links:
>> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9071138&intsrc=hm_list
>>
>> And another one:
>> http://hardware.gamershell.com/forum/showthread.php?p=31555
>>
>>
>> Seidell23231 wrote:
>> > WOW, that makes total sense! HP is SP1 and UT is NOT! OK.............
>> >
>> > So, how do I go about removing SP1 (Programs & Features)????
>> >
>> > Thanks! ~~~~~ Joey
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Seidell23231" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hey Everyone,
>> >>
>> >> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which
>> >> comes
>> >> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate
>> >> Upgrade
>> >> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP.
>> >> When
>> >> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade,
>> >> only to
>> >> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It
>> >> suggested
>> >> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.
>> >>
>> >> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What
>> >> doesn't
>> >> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are
>> >> pending.
>> >>
>> >> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean
>> >> Install,
>> >> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.
>> >>
>> >> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
>>
 
Re: Won't Upgrade!

Thank You Colin,

I have spent 4-5 hours today trying to fix something which could not be
fixed! Than you come in and bingo bango, problem resolved and even included
a link to boot...

Again, Thank You! ~~~~ Joey

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> You need to obtain a new dvd from MS or the retailer where you purchased the
> package. There is no other method since you cannot slipstream Vista like
> you could with XP. You can order one dvd from
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/default.mspx using
> your upgrade product key for shipping and handling cost. The dvds available
> there are integrated dvds by this time. I would see if the retailer will do
> the exchange first, however.
>
> "Seidell23231" <Seidell23231@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F769B457-735A-4174-9544-D8DC6F6E7CDC@microsoft.com...
> > Theo,
> >
> > Neither of your options are valid in my case. The PC came preloaded with
> > HP
> > SP1 already loaded. So there is not download upgrade to delete, since SP1
> > was not acquired in that fashion.
> >
> > Now what?????????????????????? ~~~~~~ Joey
> >
> >
> >
> > "Theo" wrote:
> >
> >> Go to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948537
> >>
> >> There's a How To on removing SP1.
> >>
> >> Here's an article with additional links:
> >> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9071138&intsrc=hm_list
> >>
> >> And another one:
> >> http://hardware.gamershell.com/forum/showthread.php?p=31555
> >>
> >>
> >> Seidell23231 wrote:
> >> > WOW, that makes total sense! HP is SP1 and UT is NOT! OK.............
> >> >
> >> > So, how do I go about removing SP1 (Programs & Features)????
> >> >
> >> > Thanks! ~~~~~ Joey
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Seidell23231" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hey Everyone,
> >> >>
> >> >> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which
> >> >> comes
> >> >> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate
> >> >> Upgrade
> >> >> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP.
> >> >> When
> >> >> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade,
> >> >> only to
> >> >> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It
> >> >> suggested
> >> >> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.
> >> >>
> >> >> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What
> >> >> doesn't
> >> >> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are
> >> >> pending.
> >> >>
> >> >> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean
> >> >> Install,
> >> >> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.
> >> >>
> >> >> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
> >>
>
 
Re: Won't Upgrade!

You're welcome.

"Seidell23231" <Seidell23231@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FA795003-E51B-4BCD-8D6C-1354FD4E0F67@microsoft.com...
> Thank You Colin,
>
> I have spent 4-5 hours today trying to fix something which could not be
> fixed! Than you come in and bingo bango, problem resolved and even
> included
> a link to boot...
>
> Again, Thank You! ~~~~ Joey
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> You need to obtain a new dvd from MS or the retailer where you purchased
>> the
>> package. There is no other method since you cannot slipstream Vista like
>> you could with XP. You can order one dvd from
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/default.mspx using
>> your upgrade product key for shipping and handling cost. The dvds
>> available
>> there are integrated dvds by this time. I would see if the retailer will
>> do
>> the exchange first, however.
>>
>> "Seidell23231" <Seidell23231@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F769B457-735A-4174-9544-D8DC6F6E7CDC@microsoft.com...
>> > Theo,
>> >
>> > Neither of your options are valid in my case. The PC came preloaded
>> > with
>> > HP
>> > SP1 already loaded. So there is not download upgrade to delete, since
>> > SP1
>> > was not acquired in that fashion.
>> >
>> > Now what?????????????????????? ~~~~~~ Joey
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Theo" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Go to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948537
>> >>
>> >> There's a How To on removing SP1.
>> >>
>> >> Here's an article with additional links:
>> >> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9071138&intsrc=hm_list
>> >>
>> >> And another one:
>> >> http://hardware.gamershell.com/forum/showthread.php?p=31555
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Seidell23231 wrote:
>> >> > WOW, that makes total sense! HP is SP1 and UT is NOT!
>> >> > OK.............
>> >> >
>> >> > So, how do I go about removing SP1 (Programs & Features)????
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks! ~~~~~ Joey
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Seidell23231" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hey Everyone,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which
>> >> >> comes
>> >> >> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista
>> >> >> Ultimate
>> >> >> Upgrade
>> >> >> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista
>> >> >> HP.
>> >> >> When
>> >> >> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to
>> >> >> Upgrade,
>> >> >> only to
>> >> >> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It
>> >> >> suggested
>> >> >> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What
>> >> >> doesn't
>> >> >> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> pending.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean
>> >> >> Install,
>> >> >> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
>> >>
>>
 
Re: Won't Upgrade!

He didn't say it was an integrated installation. He stated
he had done all the updates, so I was under the impression
he had gotten to the SP1 level via Win Update. Had I known
it was an integrated installation I would not have suggest
eh try to uninstall SP1.


Colin Barnhorst wrote:
> He cannot remove an integrated SP1. There is a big difference between
> an OS that has been upgraded to a new service pack level and an OS that
> already is at that service pack level. SP1 cannot be uninstalled from
> an integrated image.
>
> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:OKOTa8lnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> I would wonder about SP1. If you current installation has been
>> updated to SP1 and the DVD is the RTM (no Service Pack) then this may
>> be the problem.
>>
>> If you have SP1, you should be able to remove it and then try the
>> upgrade. Or, you would need a DVD with SP1.
>>
>>
>>
>> Seidell23231 wrote:
>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>
>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which
>>> comes pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista
>>> Ultimate Upgrade Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates
>>> available for Vista HP. When I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it
>>> would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to Clean (Not sure if thats the
>>> name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested that I use a more up
>>> to date version and than retry the Upgrade. Not positive if those
>>> are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't make sense is
>>> that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are pending.
>>>
>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean
>>> Install, only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.
>>>
>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
>
 
Re: Won't Upgrade!

He said that Vista SP1 came preinstalled. That can only mean that the
manufacturer installed the integrated version (build 6001). A manufacturer
never installs an rtm image and then applies the upgrade. A mfg just
installs the current image from MS.

"Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%23Y4I1IunIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> He didn't say it was an integrated installation. He stated he had done
> all the updates, so I was under the impression he had gotten to the SP1
> level via Win Update. Had I known it was an integrated installation I
> would not have suggest eh try to uninstall SP1.
>
>
> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>> He cannot remove an integrated SP1. There is a big difference between an
>> OS that has been upgraded to a new service pack level and an OS that
>> already is at that service pack level. SP1 cannot be uninstalled from an
>> integrated image.
>>
>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:OKOTa8lnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> I would wonder about SP1. If you current installation has been updated
>>> to SP1 and the DVD is the RTM (no Service Pack) then this may be the
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> If you have SP1, you should be able to remove it and then try the
>>> upgrade. Or, you would need a DVD with SP1.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Seidell23231 wrote:
>>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes
>>>> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate
>>>> Upgrade Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for
>>>> Vista HP. When I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow
>>>> me to Upgrade, only to Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install,
>>>> Upgrade disabled. It suggested that I use a more up to date version
>>>> and than retry the Upgrade. Not positive if those are the exact words,
>>>> but 90% correct. What doesn't make sense is that ALL of the updates
>>>> have been completed and none are pending.
>>>>
>>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean
>>>> Install, only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.
>>>>
>>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
>>
 
Re: Won't Upgrade!

Would you be so kind as to point out where he said SP1 was
preloaded? Apparently I am blind in one eye and can't see
out of the other, because I just don't see it!

The original post is below.

Thanks you.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Won't Upgrade!
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:20:01 -0700
From: Seidell23231 <Seidell23231@discussions.microsoft.com>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general

Hey Everyone,

Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F,
which comes
pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista
Ultimate Upgrade
Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for
Vista HP. When
I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to
Upgrade, only to
Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade
disabled. It suggested
that I use a more up to date version and than retry the
Upgrade.

Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct.
What doesn't
make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed
and none are
pending.

So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a
Clean Install,
only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey


Colin Barnhorst wrote:
> He said that Vista SP1 came preinstalled. That can only mean that the
> manufacturer installed the integrated version (build 6001). A
> manufacturer never installs an rtm image and then applies the upgrade.
> A mfg just installs the current image from MS.
>
> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Y4I1IunIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> He didn't say it was an integrated installation. He stated he had
>> done all the updates, so I was under the impression he had gotten to
>> the SP1 level via Win Update. Had I known it was an integrated
>> installation I would not have suggest eh try to uninstall SP1.
>>
>>
>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>> He cannot remove an integrated SP1. There is a big difference
>>> between an OS that has been upgraded to a new service pack level and
>>> an OS that already is at that service pack level. SP1 cannot be
>>> uninstalled from an integrated image.
>>>
>>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OKOTa8lnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> I would wonder about SP1. If you current installation has been
>>>> updated to SP1 and the DVD is the RTM (no Service Pack) then this
>>>> may be the problem.
>>>>
>>>> If you have SP1, you should be able to remove it and then try the
>>>> upgrade. Or, you would need a DVD with SP1.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Seidell23231 wrote:
>>>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which
>>>>> comes pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista
>>>>> Ultimate Upgrade Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates
>>>>> available for Vista HP. When I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it
>>>>> would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to Clean (Not sure if thats the
>>>>> name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested that I use a more up
>>>>> to date version and than retry the Upgrade. Not positive if those
>>>>> are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't make sense is
>>>>> that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are pending.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean
>>>>> Install, only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.
>>>>>
>>>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
>>>
>
 
Re: Won't Upgrade!

It couldn't be anything else. That's all that the manufacturers have been
shipping for months now.

"Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:uKyaKVwnIHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Would you be so kind as to point out where he said SP1 was preloaded?
> Apparently I am blind in one eye and can't see out of the other, because I
> just don't see it!
>
> The original post is below.
>
> Thanks you.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Won't Upgrade!
> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:20:01 -0700
> From: Seidell23231 <Seidell23231@discussions.microsoft.com>
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
>
> Hey Everyone,
>
> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes
> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate
> Upgrade
> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP.
> When
> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only
> to
> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It
> suggested
> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.
>
> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't
> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are
> pending.
>
> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean
> Install,
> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.
>
> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
>
>
> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>> He said that Vista SP1 came preinstalled. That can only mean that the
>> manufacturer installed the integrated version (build 6001). A
>> manufacturer never installs an rtm image and then applies the upgrade. A
>> mfg just installs the current image from MS.
>>
>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23Y4I1IunIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> He didn't say it was an integrated installation. He stated he had done
>>> all the updates, so I was under the impression he had gotten to the SP1
>>> level via Win Update. Had I known it was an integrated installation I
>>> would not have suggest eh try to uninstall SP1.
>>>
>>>
>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>>> He cannot remove an integrated SP1. There is a big difference between
>>>> an OS that has been upgraded to a new service pack level and an OS that
>>>> already is at that service pack level. SP1 cannot be uninstalled from
>>>> an integrated image.
>>>>
>>>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OKOTa8lnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> I would wonder about SP1. If you current installation has been
>>>>> updated to SP1 and the DVD is the RTM (no Service Pack) then this may
>>>>> be the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have SP1, you should be able to remove it and then try the
>>>>> upgrade. Or, you would need a DVD with SP1.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Seidell23231 wrote:
>>>>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which
>>>>>> comes pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista
>>>>>> Ultimate Upgrade Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates
>>>>>> available for Vista HP. When I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it
>>>>>> would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to Clean (Not sure if thats the
>>>>>> name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested that I use a more up
>>>>>> to date version and than retry the Upgrade. Not positive if those
>>>>>> are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't make sense is
>>>>>> that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are pending.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean
>>>>>> Install, only because I don't know what will or won't work if it
>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
>>>>
>>
 
Re: Won't Upgrade!

Okay. But he didn't say when he bought the computer and how
am I know to what's on his computer? My crystal ball is
down for maintenance at the moment.

Besides, you stated he said it came with SP1 and the post
that I read does not say that. All I can go by is what I
read, nothing else!


Colin Barnhorst wrote:
> It couldn't be anything else. That's all that the manufacturers have
> been shipping for months now.
>
> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:uKyaKVwnIHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Would you be so kind as to point out where he said SP1 was preloaded?
>> Apparently I am blind in one eye and can't see out of the other,
>> because I just don't see it!
>>
>> The original post is below.
>>
>> Thanks you.
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Won't Upgrade!
>> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:20:01 -0700
>> From: Seidell23231 <Seidell23231@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
>>
>> Hey Everyone,
>>
>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes
>> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate
>> Upgrade
>> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP.
>> When
>> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade,
>> only to
>> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It
>> suggested
>> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.
>>
>> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't
>> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are
>> pending.
>>
>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean
>> Install,
>> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.
>>
>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
>>
>>
>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>> He said that Vista SP1 came preinstalled. That can only mean that
>>> the manufacturer installed the integrated version (build 6001). A
>>> manufacturer never installs an rtm image and then applies the
>>> upgrade. A mfg just installs the current image from MS.
>>>
>>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23Y4I1IunIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> He didn't say it was an integrated installation. He stated he had
>>>> done all the updates, so I was under the impression he had gotten to
>>>> the SP1 level via Win Update. Had I known it was an integrated
>>>> installation I would not have suggest eh try to uninstall SP1.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>>>> He cannot remove an integrated SP1. There is a big difference
>>>>> between an OS that has been upgraded to a new service pack level
>>>>> and an OS that already is at that service pack level. SP1 cannot
>>>>> be uninstalled from an integrated image.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OKOTa8lnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> I would wonder about SP1. If you current installation has been
>>>>>> updated to SP1 and the DVD is the RTM (no Service Pack) then this
>>>>>> may be the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have SP1, you should be able to remove it and then try the
>>>>>> upgrade. Or, you would need a DVD with SP1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seidell23231 wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which
>>>>>>> comes pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista
>>>>>>> Ultimate Upgrade Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates
>>>>>>> available for Vista HP. When I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate,
>>>>>>> it would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to Clean (Not sure if
>>>>>>> thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested that I
>>>>>>> use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade. Not
>>>>>>> positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What
>>>>>>> doesn't make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed
>>>>>>> and none are pending.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a
>>>>>>> Clean Install, only because I don't know what will or won't work
>>>>>>> if it done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
>>>>>
>>>
>
 
Re: Won't Upgrade!

Nevertheless the only time the upgrade option is unavailable is when the
version on the dvd is older than the one on the hdd. Unlike the repair
install option in XP which requires the versions to agree, with Vista the
only requirement for an upgrade-in-place is that the version on the dvd be
the same or later than the one on the hdd. Hence, from his description it
is clear that he got a bum deal from the retailer (a Vista rtm copy).
Otherwise the upgrade would have been enabled. Had the version on the hdd
been Vista rtm the upgrade-in-place would have worked no matter what the
retail copy was. Elementary, my dear Watson. :P

"Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:u9boRV2nIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Okay. But he didn't say when he bought the computer and how am I know to
> what's on his computer? My crystal ball is down for maintenance at the
> moment.
>
> Besides, you stated he said it came with SP1 and the post that I read does
> not say that. All I can go by is what I read, nothing else!
>
>
> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>> It couldn't be anything else. That's all that the manufacturers have
>> been shipping for months now.
>>
>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:uKyaKVwnIHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Would you be so kind as to point out where he said SP1 was preloaded?
>>> Apparently I am blind in one eye and can't see out of the other, because
>>> I just don't see it!
>>>
>>> The original post is below.
>>>
>>> Thanks you.
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Won't Upgrade!
>>> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:20:01 -0700
>>> From: Seidell23231 <Seidell23231@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
>>>
>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>
>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes
>>> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate
>>> Upgrade
>>> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP.
>>> When
>>> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade,
>>> only to
>>> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It
>>> suggested
>>> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.
>>>
>>> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't
>>> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are
>>> pending.
>>>
>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean
>>> Install,
>>> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.
>>>
>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
>>>
>>>
>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>>> He said that Vista SP1 came preinstalled. That can only mean that the
>>>> manufacturer installed the integrated version (build 6001). A
>>>> manufacturer never installs an rtm image and then applies the upgrade.
>>>> A mfg just installs the current image from MS.
>>>>
>>>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23Y4I1IunIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> He didn't say it was an integrated installation. He stated he had
>>>>> done all the updates, so I was under the impression he had gotten to
>>>>> the SP1 level via Win Update. Had I known it was an integrated
>>>>> installation I would not have suggest eh try to uninstall SP1.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>>>>> He cannot remove an integrated SP1. There is a big difference
>>>>>> between an OS that has been upgraded to a new service pack level and
>>>>>> an OS that already is at that service pack level. SP1 cannot be
>>>>>> uninstalled from an integrated image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:OKOTa8lnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> I would wonder about SP1. If you current installation has been
>>>>>>> updated to SP1 and the DVD is the RTM (no Service Pack) then this
>>>>>>> may be the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you have SP1, you should be able to remove it and then try the
>>>>>>> upgrade. Or, you would need a DVD with SP1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seidell23231 wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which
>>>>>>>> comes pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista
>>>>>>>> Ultimate Upgrade Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates
>>>>>>>> available for Vista HP. When I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it
>>>>>>>> would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to Clean (Not sure if thats the
>>>>>>>> name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested that I use a more up
>>>>>>>> to date version and than retry the Upgrade. Not positive if those
>>>>>>>> are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't make sense is
>>>>>>>> that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are pending.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean
>>>>>>>> Install, only because I don't know what will or won't work if it
>>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
 
Re: Won't Upgrade!

It may be elementary when you already know it, but it's not
obvious when you don't know it!


Colin Barnhorst wrote:
> Nevertheless the only time the upgrade option is unavailable is when the
> version on the dvd is older than the one on the hdd. Unlike the repair
> install option in XP which requires the versions to agree, with Vista
> the only requirement for an upgrade-in-place is that the version on the
> dvd be the same or later than the one on the hdd. Hence, from his
> description it is clear that he got a bum deal from the retailer (a
> Vista rtm copy). Otherwise the upgrade would have been enabled. Had the
> version on the hdd been Vista rtm the upgrade-in-place would have worked
> no matter what the retail copy was. Elementary, my dear Watson. :P
>
> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:u9boRV2nIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Okay. But he didn't say when he bought the computer and how am I know
>> to what's on his computer? My crystal ball is down for maintenance at
>> the moment.
>>
>> Besides, you stated he said it came with SP1 and the post that I read
>> does not say that. All I can go by is what I read, nothing else!
>>
>>
>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>> It couldn't be anything else. That's all that the manufacturers have
>>> been shipping for months now.
>>>
>>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uKyaKVwnIHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Would you be so kind as to point out where he said SP1 was
>>>> preloaded? Apparently I am blind in one eye and can't see out of the
>>>> other, because I just don't see it!
>>>>
>>>> The original post is below.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks you.
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: Won't Upgrade!
>>>> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:20:01 -0700
>>>> From: Seidell23231 <Seidell23231@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
>>>>
>>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes
>>>> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate
>>>> Upgrade
>>>> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista
>>>> HP. When
>>>> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade,
>>>> only to
>>>> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It
>>>> suggested
>>>> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.
>>>>
>>>> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What
>>>> doesn't
>>>> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are
>>>> pending.
>>>>
>>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean
>>>> Install,
>>>> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.
>>>>
>>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>>>> He said that Vista SP1 came preinstalled. That can only mean that
>>>>> the manufacturer installed the integrated version (build 6001). A
>>>>> manufacturer never installs an rtm image and then applies the
>>>>> upgrade. A mfg just installs the current image from MS.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23Y4I1IunIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> He didn't say it was an integrated installation. He stated he had
>>>>>> done all the updates, so I was under the impression he had gotten
>>>>>> to the SP1 level via Win Update. Had I known it was an integrated
>>>>>> installation I would not have suggest eh try to uninstall SP1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>>>>>> He cannot remove an integrated SP1. There is a big difference
>>>>>>> between an OS that has been upgraded to a new service pack level
>>>>>>> and an OS that already is at that service pack level. SP1 cannot
>>>>>>> be uninstalled from an integrated image.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:OKOTa8lnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> I would wonder about SP1. If you current installation has been
>>>>>>>> updated to SP1 and the DVD is the RTM (no Service Pack) then
>>>>>>>> this may be the problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you have SP1, you should be able to remove it and then try
>>>>>>>> the upgrade. Or, you would need a DVD with SP1.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Seidell23231 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F,
>>>>>>>>> which comes pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased
>>>>>>>>> the Vista Ultimate Upgrade Retail Version.. I have completed
>>>>>>>>> ALL updates available for Vista HP. When I tried to Upgrade HP
>>>>>>>>> to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to Clean
>>>>>>>>> (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It
>>>>>>>>> suggested that I use a more up to date version and than retry
>>>>>>>>> the Upgrade. Not positive if those are the exact words, but
>>>>>>>>> 90% correct. What doesn't make sense is that ALL of the
>>>>>>>>> updates have been completed and none are pending.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a
>>>>>>>>> Clean Install, only because I don't know what will or won't
>>>>>>>>> work if it done.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
 
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