Gosted Drive gets NTOSKRNL.EXE Blue screen on boot

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Hi, I have a customer with a DC running windows 2000 advanced server.
It's an older Pentium 3 rack mount server. Runs great, but the drives
(mirrored) are getting noisy and it seems time to replace the
drives.

I ghosted the old maxtor 40 gig drive onto a new Seagate barracuda 60
gig drive. It booted beautifully the first time on the new drive,
then I saw something about a hardware update or something, and then
when I shut down and re-booted, I got the ntoskrnl.exe missing error.
I guess it has something to do with the system recognizing the new
drive hardware and making a change. So I had to put the old mirror
pair back in for now.

What the heck is going on? I've never had such difficulty before when
I did this.

Any help form anyone whos gone through this would be appreciated.
 
Re: Gosted Drive gets NTOSKRNL.EXE Blue screen on boot


"Jeff Gross" <jgross@quonix.net> wrote in message
news:3ca7dd3e-ad5f-4e19-b660-102f0789a40d@t63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Hi, I have a customer with a DC running windows 2000 advanced server.
> It's an older Pentium 3 rack mount server. Runs great, but the drives
> (mirrored) are getting noisy and it seems time to replace the
> drives.
>
> I ghosted the old maxtor 40 gig drive onto a new Seagate barracuda 60
> gig drive. It booted beautifully the first time on the new drive,
> then I saw something about a hardware update or something, and then
> when I shut down and re-booted, I got the ntoskrnl.exe missing error.
> I guess it has something to do with the system recognizing the new
> drive hardware and making a change. So I had to put the old mirror
> pair back in for now.
>
> What the heck is going on? I've never had such difficulty before when
> I did this.
>
> Any help form anyone whos gone through this would be appreciated.

I haven't experienced this problem but I would try the following:
1. After cloning, boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD.
2. Create a backup copy of the three registry files in
c:\Windows\system32\config. This allows you to recover
quickly from subsequent BSODs.
3. On the first boot, force the driver for the disk controller to
the generic Microsoft controller (Control Panel / System /
Hardware / Device Manager.
 
Re: Gosted Drive gets NTOSKRNL.EXE Blue screen on boot

Bart Pe didn't work, but here's what I did, I put the original drives
back. They work but the bearings are very loud (an indication that
time is short). I placed the newly ghosted drive into another machine
on the network, so I could compare them side by side, and every single
file was there, file for file, an exact duplicate drive. All the
system and boot files. However putting it back into the server, no
boot.

Could it be something in the FAT table or boot sector? Is there some
way to make the drive bootable?


On Apr 19, 10:14 am, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
> "Jeff Gross" <jgr...@quonix.net> wrote in message
>
> news:3ca7dd3e-ad5f-4e19-b660-102f0789a40d@t63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi, I have a customer with a DC running windows 2000 advanced server.
> > It's an older Pentium 3 rack mount server.  Runs great, but the drives
> > (mirrored) are getting noisy and it seems time to replace the
> > drives.
>
> > I ghosted the old maxtor 40 gig drive onto a new Seagate barracuda 60
> > gig drive.  It booted beautifully the first time on the new drive,
> > then I saw something about a hardware update or something, and then
> > when I shut down and re-booted, I got the ntoskrnl.exe missing error.
> > I guess it has something to do with the system recognizing the new
> > drive hardware and making a change.  So I had to put the old mirror
> > pair back in for now.
>
> > What the heck is going on?  I've never had such difficulty before when
> > I did this.
>
> > Any help form anyone whos gone through this would be appreciated.
>
> I haven't experienced this problem but I would try the following:
> 1. After cloning, boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD.
> 2. Create a backup copy of the three registry files in
>     c:\Windows\system32\config. This allows you to recover
>     quickly from subsequent BSODs.
> 3. On the first boot, force the driver for the disk controller to
>     the generic Microsoft controller (Control Panel / System /
>     Hardware / Device Manager.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
 
Re: Gosted Drive gets NTOSKRNL.EXE Blue screen on boot

In news:39d5fbc0-8363-4f20-90ca-b929b4d05953@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com,
Jeff Gross <jgross@quonix.net> typed:
> Bart Pe didn't work, but here's what I did, I put the original drives
> back. They work but the bearings are very loud (an indication that
> time is short). I placed the newly ghosted drive into another machine
> on the network, so I could compare them side by side, and every single
> file was there, file for file, an exact duplicate drive. All the
> system and boot files. However putting it back into the server, no
> boot.
>
> Could it be something in the FAT table or boot sector? Is there some
> way to make the drive bootable?
>

It may be an Int 13 issue with the Ghost image. I saw this in the past with
Compaq servers. We had to use a switch called -FNX with Ghost when Ghosting
up. The command line we used (by memory):
ghost -z9 -split=650 -FNX -auto

-z9 = highest compression rate. When choosing one of the default three
compressions settings that show up on the screen, is only -z1, -z2 or -z3.
So -z9 is the highest, but slower ghosting up, but fastest ghosting down.
-split=650 Used to break each .gho segment to 650 megs so we can burn them
and archive them.
-FNX Used this for the compaq servers mentioned. Give it a shot.
-auto = Generates new names for each 650 segment

Ghost switches:
http://ghosting.netfirms.com/switchesal.htm

If the drive is an IDE drive, you can use the script in the following "Stop"
error article to create a .reg file to force it to enumerate all drive
manufacturer types. Then manually copy the Atapi.sys, Intelide.sys,
Pciide.sys, and Pciidex.sys files. There are about 30 possibly combination
of ide drivers from various manufacturers that it checks. This is normal
when Windows Setup runs the first time, but after that, it won't look for
other types unless forced with reg entries. We found it very useful with
ghosting machines for various classrooms with diferent hardware, laptop to
desktop.

You receive a Stop 0x0000007B error after you move the Windows XP system
disk to another computer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314082

How to move a Windows installation to different hardware
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/249694

As immediately dealing with this issue, you can re-run Windows 2003 Setup as
an upgrade. Reboot from the CD, and choose repair. One of the things it
repairs is the boot sector. It will not change the installation; all your
settings and profiles will still be there. It's clean and it works. Cleans
out some bugs too. It would also be helpful if you had an i386 source on the
CD that matches the machine's current service pack level. If not, you'll
have to re-run the service pack setup as well as getting it caught up at
Windows Update.

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816579/


--
Regards,
Ace

This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
confers no rights.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT,
MVP Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
Microsoft Certified Trainer

For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please
check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.

Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations
 
Re: Gosted Drive gets NTOSKRNL.EXE Blue screen on boot

The essence of my suggestion was not really the Bart PE
boot but replacing the current driver for your IDE Controller
with the generic Microsoft driver. Your reply makes no
reference to this technique.


"Jeff Gross" <jgross@quonix.net> wrote in message
news:39d5fbc0-8363-4f20-90ca-b929b4d05953@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Bart Pe didn't work, but here's what I did, I put the original drives
back. They work but the bearings are very loud (an indication that
time is short). I placed the newly ghosted drive into another machine
on the network, so I could compare them side by side, and every single
file was there, file for file, an exact duplicate drive. All the
system and boot files. However putting it back into the server, no
boot.

Could it be something in the FAT table or boot sector? Is there some
way to make the drive bootable?


On Apr 19, 10:14 am, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
> "Jeff Gross" <jgr...@quonix.net> wrote in message
>
> news:3ca7dd3e-ad5f-4e19-b660-102f0789a40d@t63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi, I have a customer with a DC running windows 2000 advanced server.
> > It's an older Pentium 3 rack mount server. Runs great, but the drives
> > (mirrored) are getting noisy and it seems time to replace the
> > drives.
>
> > I ghosted the old maxtor 40 gig drive onto a new Seagate barracuda 60
> > gig drive. It booted beautifully the first time on the new drive,
> > then I saw something about a hardware update or something, and then
> > when I shut down and re-booted, I got the ntoskrnl.exe missing error.
> > I guess it has something to do with the system recognizing the new
> > drive hardware and making a change. So I had to put the old mirror
> > pair back in for now.
>
> > What the heck is going on? I've never had such difficulty before when
> > I did this.
>
> > Any help form anyone whos gone through this would be appreciated.
>
> I haven't experienced this problem but I would try the following:
> 1. After cloning, boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD.
> 2. Create a backup copy of the three registry files in
> c:\Windows\system32\config. This allows you to recover
> quickly from subsequent BSODs.
> 3. On the first boot, force the driver for the disk controller to
> the generic Microsoft controller (Control Panel / System /
> Hardware / Device Manager.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
 
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