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Re: Prediction: Microsoft will leapfrog Vista, release Windows 7early, and change its OS business


Re: Prediction: Microsoft will leapfrog Vista, release Windows 7early, and change its OS business


Dzomlija wrote:


> vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:

>> Strip out or minimize some of Windows Vista's clunkiest features -

>> especially User Account Control

> To what end? So the bashers can start complaining about how much more

> secure Vista is over Windows 7?


You mean like all the people did with ME?  Oh yeah, people are still

dissing ME all these years later. 


History is not on your side.


> vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:

>> Simplify the interface back to something closer to Windows XP

> This falls in line with the first quote. By rolling the UI back to

> something closer to XP, all that will happen is that people will

> complain too much about how dumb it is and how much better the Vista UI

> is.


It depends.  No one is gonna miss UAC, which MS admitted to purposefully

trying to piss off customers with it, in order to coerce software

developers to code the way MS mandates.


Stripping out the crap that bogs down Explorer ain't gonna piss off that

many people either.


As long as MS keeps the good things about Vista, like its improved memory

management, MS could redesign Vista, repackage it, and as long as it is

stable and fast, most people will be happy to be able to skip over the

pain that is Vista.


> vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:

>> Reduce backward compatibility in order to streamline the code base

> So people can complain even more about how nothing works? If anything,

> backward compatibility will be improved, not reduced.


I agree with you here.  MS would be stupid to try and pull that with

Win7.  Shooting one's self in the foot comes to mind.


> vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:

>> Work much harder with vendors to ensure driver and software

>> compatibility with new hardware and applications

> The only reason why Vista initially had driver related problems is

> because Microsoft moved to a new user-mode model for drivers to make the

> system more secure, and many hardware manufacturers had issues with the

> resulting learning curve. Windows 7 will use the same user-mode driver

> model as Vista, so manufacturers will not have as hard a time

> transitioning from Vista to Windows 7 as they did from XP to Vista.


Well, you are essentially right.  MS is trying to use the new driver

model to coerce Hardware Manufacturers in making their product more

compatible with MS's DRM technologies.


MS needs to give up its obsession with DRM if it wants to make nice with

all the customers it has pissed off with Vista, and all the coercion crap

that has made Vista into the pisspot that it is today.


> vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:

>> Reduce the cost of Windows in retail boxes in order to generate

>> goodwill and undercut Mac OS X (meanwhile, this will have little effect

>> on the price of enterprise licensing, which is already much cheaper

>> than retail)

> A cost reduction will always be welcome. But remember the largest factor

> here - the easier it is to crack/patch/pirate Windows, the more

> expensive it will be for end users who ultimately end up paying.


Only because you are under the delusion that MS is actually hurt by

piracy.


The Global Software Piracy Rate was much higher in 1994 than in 2001, and

had been consistently dropping every year in betweeen. Then MS introduced

PA in both Office XP & Windows XP, and then other companies followed

suit.  Since the introduction of PA-like technologies, the Global

Software Piracy Rate stopped dropping (except for the year that the BSA

changed its methodology in calculation the GSPR) and has remained flat.


These DRM technologies don't help to reduce piracy on iota.  All they do

is add to the price of the DRMed product.


> vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:

>> Learn from the long delay of Windows Vista and move to an incremental

>> release model with a subscription and at least one major update per

>> year.

> There is nothing to learn from the long delay of Vista, except that the

> additional time spent can be seen in the stability, reliability and

> performance of the final release. Personally, I'd prefer to see another

> 4-5 year relase time-frame for Windows 7, which will give the coders at

> Microsoft more time to streamline the product as well as Vista was.


LOL!  Even Steve Balmer wouldn't agree that!  Most knowledgeable people

agree that many mistakes were made during the development stage of Vista,

and that MS cannot repeat them again, unless it is actually trying to

move people away from Windows.


> vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:

>> Financially, most IT departments are already on a subscription plan.

>> Now look for Microsoft to move consumers in this direction.

> Microsoft will maintain the status quo here, as the largest part of the

> market is not yet ready to adopt a subscription based model. This

> particular trend is still open for debate, though...


They are already been testing out the subscription model with Office

products, but I'd agree that MS is not likely to start it with Win7.


> vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:

>> Release Windows 7 by the end of 2009 and market it as the simplest and

>> easiest Windows ever

> Isn't that what was said about XP? And about Windows 2000 before it? an

> about Windows ME/98/95 before that?

> Each successive release of Windows (or any other OS) is always "the

> simplest and easiest ever"!


I just don't remember that Vista was ever marketed as "simplest."  Hell,

if they did, it would be a major part of the Vista-capable con-job class

action suit.


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