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Re: External Drives DON"T WORK WITH VISTA
Donald, you seem knowledgeable.
I have a 1-year old HP Slimline running Vista Home Premium
(factory/reseller- installed). Until recently, I had no problems with any
type of external drive. A 3-year old Accomodate external HD (USB), a Canon
Pixma photo printer (USB), a Seagate external HD (Firewire), and numerous
manufacturers of external flash drives all worked flawlessly as plug 'n play.
Suddenly, all my computer will read are the native internal drives - it won't
even read my removable HP Pocket Media Drive. My Microsoft Wireless Keyboard
and Mouse bagged first. I replaced with wired versions, and they work fine
through the PS2 ports. Once I regained control, I realized nothing else was
there. I have reinstalled my Canon printer driver (latest one), and
uninstalled and reinstalled my USB drivers multiple times (the computer says
they are working properly). It won't even read my flash memory cards from the
built-in slots. All of this happened before I installed Service Pack 1. The
only software I installed around the time of the error was a Linksys router
signal extender, but that was a pass through install to my wireless router,
and doesn't show up in my programs. I tried going back to a restore point
before this install to no avail.
I have checked for new versions on my PCI to USB Host Controller, my Open
USB Host Controller and my IEEE 1394 Host Controller (AGERE OHCI Compliant
1394 Host Controller), and all say they are up-to-date.
My computer specs are as follows:
HP Slimline 3020n
AMD 64 X 2 Dual Core
Device 1 (USB) Canon PIXMA IP 1600 Photo Printer
Device 2 (Firewire 400) Seagate 750 GB external HD
Numerous and assorted flash drives
I wouldreally appreciate a fix: I can't transfer fiiles, print, or access my
iTunes collection.
"Donald McDaniel" wrote:
> "Jackbliss" <jfreeman@freemanfrazier.com> wrote in message
> news:1172061199.965754.185710@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> > On Feb 20, 7:41 pm, "Donald McDaniel" <orthocr...@invalid.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >> "Jackbliss" <jfree...@freemanfrazier.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> news:1172015997.963083.137970@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Feb 18, 4:56 pm, Statue <Sta...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> >> Hello Ya'all:
> >>
> >> >> Here's my two cents on this: There's two main components on a USBdrive--
> >> >> thedriveitself, and the USB (or firewire) to PATA (or SATA) bridge. The
> >> >> problem, as far as I can tell, is previously, like in XP, the bridge
> >> >> anddrivenever needed a driver from the device manufacturer -- XP had a
> >> >> built-in
> >> >> driver for the bridge as well as thedrive. What now looks like is
> >> >> happening
> >> >> is they have a built-in driver for the bridge, but do not have drivers
> >> >> for
> >> >> the drives. I have a Nexstar USB to PATAdrivechassis. When I put a
> >> >> Seagatedrivein it, it works. When I put aMaxtor, it doesn't. My best
> >> >> guess
> >> >> is
> >> >> whoever was alpha testing this at Microsoft didn't have every
> >> >> combination
> >> >> ofdriveand bridge to test, so only what was on-hand was tested, and
> >> >> since
> >> >> that
> >> >> seemed to work, that's what was released.
> >>
> >> >> On a similar subject is a huge oversight on the part of USB memory keys.
> >> >> Originally, we heard rumors of even more advanced support for memory
> >> >> keys --
> >> >> according to Microsoft's WHQL list -- memory keys are NOT supported. In
> >> >> fact,
> >> >> I have a Lexar Jumpdrive -- the most common memory key ever made --
> >> >> doesn't
> >> >> work and not supported.
> >>
> >> >> When the driver installs the bridge driver, that goes oK, but when it
> >> >> gets
> >> >> to the "drive" portion of the driver, if you go to the driver details --
> >> >> it
> >> >> says "Could not start driver -- invalid switch".
> >>
> >> >> I sent in an e-mail to Microsoft's support (90-days by the way on
> >> >> Vista),
> >> >> and have had no response other than an automated acknowledgement that
> >> >> the
> >> >> message was received.
> >>
> >> >> I also contacted Lexar on the USB memory key issue, and they were
> >> >> completely
> >> >> caught off guard.
> >>
> >> >> If you thinkdriveproblems are a problem -- they are just the top of the
> >> >> iceburg. Try connecting to a Mac network, or printing over an ethernet
> >> >> print
> >> >> server -- on the Mac network, you end up logging into yourself, and most
> >> >> ethernet print servers don't work - in fact, funny as it seems, when
> >> >> Vista
> >> >> first went beta, the HP Laserjet 4si wasn't even in the device list as a
> >> >> local printer.
> >>
> >> >> Lance
> >>
> >> >> "a...@shaw.ca" wrote:
> >> >> > Hey ,
> >>
> >> >> > Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make anexternaldrivework
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > windows vista
> >>
> >> >> > let me know please- Hide quoted text -
> >>
> >> >> - Show quoted text -
> >>
> >> > I cannot use a 3 year oldMaxtorExternal Drive or Lexar Jump Drive
> >> > either - Any solutions?
> >>
> >> Obtain one which does?
> >> But it's a plain fact that Windows cannot, nor has it ever been able to,
> >> and
> >> probably won't ever be able to, boot from an external drive of ANY kind.
> >>
> >> Unless of course, Microsoft gets on the ball, and starts building it into
> >> their OSes.
> >>
> >> Considering that most newer motherboards will boot from almost any external
> >> device, it's about time that Microsoft added it to their OSes.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Donald L McDaniel
> >> Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread.
> >> ------------------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
> >>
> >> - Show quoted text -
> >
> > Not interested in booting from drive just using drive. Maxtor Drive
> > (firewire) is not recognized and when connected Vista will take 1/2hr
> > to close or retart. Jump drive (US) is also not recognized.
> >
>
> 1) Have you installed a Vista-compatible IEEE 1394 Bus Host controller driver
> for your Firewire controller? "no drivee, no workee"
> 2) Have you installed USB2.0?
> 3) Have you enabled USB 2.0 in your BIOS?
> 4) Have you installed latest BIOS updates for your machine?
> 5) Have you installed ALL latest Vista-compatible device drivers?
> 6) Have you checked to see if Firewire must be enabled in your BIOS?
> 7) Have you made sure that your Firewire drive is formatted either as FAT32,
> or as NTFS? Otherwise, Vista will not recognize it.
>
> When you have done those 7 things, come back, and I will revisit your issue.
>
> Also, please include a listing of your devices, motherboard, memory amount
> and type, and especially, your Maxtor Drive Firewire model, as well as your
> USB thumb-drive maker and model.
>
> --
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread.
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>
Donald, you seem knowledgeable.
I have a 1-year old HP Slimline running Vista Home Premium
(factory/reseller- installed). Until recently, I had no problems with any
type of external drive. A 3-year old Accomodate external HD (USB), a Canon
Pixma photo printer (USB), a Seagate external HD (Firewire), and numerous
manufacturers of external flash drives all worked flawlessly as plug 'n play.
Suddenly, all my computer will read are the native internal drives - it won't
even read my removable HP Pocket Media Drive. My Microsoft Wireless Keyboard
and Mouse bagged first. I replaced with wired versions, and they work fine
through the PS2 ports. Once I regained control, I realized nothing else was
there. I have reinstalled my Canon printer driver (latest one), and
uninstalled and reinstalled my USB drivers multiple times (the computer says
they are working properly). It won't even read my flash memory cards from the
built-in slots. All of this happened before I installed Service Pack 1. The
only software I installed around the time of the error was a Linksys router
signal extender, but that was a pass through install to my wireless router,
and doesn't show up in my programs. I tried going back to a restore point
before this install to no avail.
I have checked for new versions on my PCI to USB Host Controller, my Open
USB Host Controller and my IEEE 1394 Host Controller (AGERE OHCI Compliant
1394 Host Controller), and all say they are up-to-date.
My computer specs are as follows:
HP Slimline 3020n
AMD 64 X 2 Dual Core
Device 1 (USB) Canon PIXMA IP 1600 Photo Printer
Device 2 (Firewire 400) Seagate 750 GB external HD
Numerous and assorted flash drives
I wouldreally appreciate a fix: I can't transfer fiiles, print, or access my
iTunes collection.
"Donald McDaniel" wrote:
> "Jackbliss" <jfreeman@freemanfrazier.com> wrote in message
> news:1172061199.965754.185710@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> > On Feb 20, 7:41 pm, "Donald McDaniel" <orthocr...@invalid.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >> "Jackbliss" <jfree...@freemanfrazier.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> news:1172015997.963083.137970@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Feb 18, 4:56 pm, Statue <Sta...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> >> Hello Ya'all:
> >>
> >> >> Here's my two cents on this: There's two main components on a USBdrive--
> >> >> thedriveitself, and the USB (or firewire) to PATA (or SATA) bridge. The
> >> >> problem, as far as I can tell, is previously, like in XP, the bridge
> >> >> anddrivenever needed a driver from the device manufacturer -- XP had a
> >> >> built-in
> >> >> driver for the bridge as well as thedrive. What now looks like is
> >> >> happening
> >> >> is they have a built-in driver for the bridge, but do not have drivers
> >> >> for
> >> >> the drives. I have a Nexstar USB to PATAdrivechassis. When I put a
> >> >> Seagatedrivein it, it works. When I put aMaxtor, it doesn't. My best
> >> >> guess
> >> >> is
> >> >> whoever was alpha testing this at Microsoft didn't have every
> >> >> combination
> >> >> ofdriveand bridge to test, so only what was on-hand was tested, and
> >> >> since
> >> >> that
> >> >> seemed to work, that's what was released.
> >>
> >> >> On a similar subject is a huge oversight on the part of USB memory keys.
> >> >> Originally, we heard rumors of even more advanced support for memory
> >> >> keys --
> >> >> according to Microsoft's WHQL list -- memory keys are NOT supported. In
> >> >> fact,
> >> >> I have a Lexar Jumpdrive -- the most common memory key ever made --
> >> >> doesn't
> >> >> work and not supported.
> >>
> >> >> When the driver installs the bridge driver, that goes oK, but when it
> >> >> gets
> >> >> to the "drive" portion of the driver, if you go to the driver details --
> >> >> it
> >> >> says "Could not start driver -- invalid switch".
> >>
> >> >> I sent in an e-mail to Microsoft's support (90-days by the way on
> >> >> Vista),
> >> >> and have had no response other than an automated acknowledgement that
> >> >> the
> >> >> message was received.
> >>
> >> >> I also contacted Lexar on the USB memory key issue, and they were
> >> >> completely
> >> >> caught off guard.
> >>
> >> >> If you thinkdriveproblems are a problem -- they are just the top of the
> >> >> iceburg. Try connecting to a Mac network, or printing over an ethernet
> >> >> server -- on the Mac network, you end up logging into yourself, and most
> >> >> ethernet print servers don't work - in fact, funny as it seems, when
> >> >> Vista
> >> >> first went beta, the HP Laserjet 4si wasn't even in the device list as a
> >> >> local printer.
> >>
> >> >> Lance
> >>
> >> >> "a...@shaw.ca" wrote:
> >> >> > Hey ,
> >>
> >> >> > Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make anexternaldrivework
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > windows vista
> >>
> >> >> > let me know please- Hide quoted text -
> >>
> >> >> - Show quoted text -
> >>
> >> > I cannot use a 3 year oldMaxtorExternal Drive or Lexar Jump Drive
> >> > either - Any solutions?
> >>
> >> Obtain one which does?
> >> But it's a plain fact that Windows cannot, nor has it ever been able to,
> >> and
> >> probably won't ever be able to, boot from an external drive of ANY kind.
> >>
> >> Unless of course, Microsoft gets on the ball, and starts building it into
> >> their OSes.
> >>
> >> Considering that most newer motherboards will boot from almost any external
> >> device, it's about time that Microsoft added it to their OSes.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Donald L McDaniel
> >> Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread.
> >> ------------------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
> >>
> >> - Show quoted text -
> >
> > Not interested in booting from drive just using drive. Maxtor Drive
> > (firewire) is not recognized and when connected Vista will take 1/2hr
> > to close or retart. Jump drive (US) is also not recognized.
> >
>
> 1) Have you installed a Vista-compatible IEEE 1394 Bus Host controller driver
> for your Firewire controller? "no drivee, no workee"
> 2) Have you installed USB2.0?
> 3) Have you enabled USB 2.0 in your BIOS?
> 4) Have you installed latest BIOS updates for your machine?
> 5) Have you installed ALL latest Vista-compatible device drivers?
> 6) Have you checked to see if Firewire must be enabled in your BIOS?
> 7) Have you made sure that your Firewire drive is formatted either as FAT32,
> or as NTFS? Otherwise, Vista will not recognize it.
>
> When you have done those 7 things, come back, and I will revisit your issue.
>
> Also, please include a listing of your devices, motherboard, memory amount
> and type, and especially, your Maxtor Drive Firewire model, as well as your
> USB thumb-drive maker and model.
>
> --
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread.
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>
