Re: 64 bit Windows Media Player
Carlos wrote:
> Dominick,
> My best guess is that ffdshow 64-bit has true 64-bit decoders.
> Why?
> Windows Movie Maker is a 64-bit application.
> If you try to open an XVid encoded video, and many other compression
> formats, with it you will get an error.
> After installing ffdshow 64-bit the video file can be opened with WMM.
> Same goes to Windows DVD Maker.
> Now, getting back to DVD playback.
> One thing is having the MPEG2 codec installed (that will allow you to play
> *.mp2 files) and quite a different one is DVD playback.
> The player has to go to the VIDEO_TS folder and open the *.IFO file which is
> sort of the index of all the stuff in the DVD.
> What I don't know is: where is the intelligence to interpret that info
> embedded?
> The player, a decoder?
> If you still want to play a DVD in true 64-bit, don't hesitate and use Media
> Player Classic Home Cinema, x64 version. That's the one I use and it has its
> own internal decoders.
>
> BTW
> Have you gone to ffdshow (64-bit) video decoder configuration program and
> enabled mpeg2 decoding?
> I mean...
> Start, All Programs, ffdshow64, Video decoder configuration.
> Click on Codecs (left pane) and look for MPEG2 (right pane) in the "Format"
> column.
> What do you have there?
> Disabled, libavcodec, libmpeg2?
> Choose one of the last two and click on apply.
> Best of luck.
> Carlos
>
> "Dominick" wrote:
>
>> Carlos wrote:
>>> Ok, it seems that MSMPEG2VDEC.dll is the one decoding MPEG2 (DVD) videos.
>>> There is one in system32 and another one in the SysWOW64 path.
>>> That leads me to conclude that Vista x64 has both MPEG2 decoders (x86
>>> and x64) embedded.
>>> Carlos
>>>
>>> "Dominick" <at@yourservice.com> escribió en el mensaje de noticias
>>> news:OLJ%23q58qIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Carlos wrote:
>>>>> Dominick,
>>>>> There may be other variables in my PC that could allow MPEG2 (DVD)
>>>>> playback in WMP64.
>>>>> I noticed that, when playing a DVD with WMP64, the only ffdshow icon
>>>>> I have in systray is the audio.
>>>>> That means that ffdshow is decoding only the audio and not the video.
>>>>> WMP64 doesn't give me any clue about which are the decoders it is
>>>>> using for decoding the DVD.
>>>>> "Something" is decoding the Video.
>>>>> Posible suspect: Nero 8
>>>>> I made a custom install of Nero 8, choosing not to install Nero Show
>>>>> Time (the "player") but I installed Nero Vision along with a bunch of
>>>>> audio/video decoders I was not offered to select.
>>>>> Was IS really strange is that WMP64 needs an x64 MPEG2 decoder and I
>>>>> don't know where it is.
>>>>> Carlos
>>>>> "Dominick" <at@yourservice.com> escribió en el mensaje de noticias
>>>>> news:uNJwBJ7qIHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Carlos wrote:
>>>>>>> Yes, I have.
>>>>>>> I am using the following x64 audio/video decoder:
>>>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941&package_id=199416
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Choose the one labeled 64-bit builds (experimental)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd suggest you uninstall any previously installed decoders/codecs
>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want to experiment a little you might also want to try the
>>>>>>> x64 native/ligthweight "Windows Media Player Classic Home Cinema"
>>>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=170561
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carlos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Dominick" wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Has anyone gotten x64 WMP to play DVD movies? I have tried the
>>>>>>>> K-Lite and Vista Codec Package x64, but it keeps saying it cannot
>>>>>>>> play the DVD maybe try reducing the screen resolution (which
>>>>>>>> doesn't help).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This error message is indicative of no codecs I believe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WMP x32 with K-Lite works great.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this an decoder that runs under a 64 bit OS, or a 64 bit codec? I
>>>>>> suspect it's the former? I installed and tried running it under
>>>>>> Media Player 64 bit, and I got the error "WMP cannot play DVD
>>>>>> video...". I made sure MPEG-2 was enabled. Using 32 bit Media
>>>>>> Player, the DVD ran...
>>>> Thanks - this is very interesting.
>>>>
>>>> I have been told that there are virtually no 64 bit decoders available
>>>> right now for MPEG2, one however being the decoder in Vista Ultimate
>>>> or the next SKU down from that. Are you running on either of these
>>>> OSs? I am on WinSrv 2008 so it does not have a 64 bit decoder, nor do
>>>> the lower end Vista SKUs. I do not believe Nero has a 64 bit decoder,
>>>> nor does DivX.
>> Yes that is right - I have heard Vista Ultimate and next next-lower SKU
>> have built in 64 bit decoders (and 32 bit of course). Lower SKUs of
>> Vista, and WinSrv 2008, do not. And the third-party world has not come
>> up with a true 64 bit decoder set either from what I can find. There
>> are packages that run on 64 bit OSs, but these are using 32 bit decoders
>> at least in the MPEG2 world (not true of all decoders). Also, I have
>> read that the codec on Vista Ultimate cannot be transferred/installed
>> to/on another OS/SKU.
>>
>> If anyone thinks this is wrong, that there is a third party true 64 bit
>> decoder or codec that supports MPEG2, than please post here!
>>
HI Carlos,
Yes I have tried ffdshow - even the experimental one. I have gone in and
tried both codecs for MPEG2. No dice. I wonder if something is missing
on a WinSrv 2008 machine?
Thanks for the tip on MPC Home Cinema. One thing that troubles me from
the writeup I saw:
New version! - MPC Homecinema is now available in 64 bits version for
Vista (should also work on XP-64). Some functionality have been removed,
because they are not available yet in 64 bits: internal MPEG decoder and
QuickTime are not supported, some "tricks" may not working because
Microsoft Detour library is not free for 64 bits plateform.
32 and 64 bits are completely separate world: MPC-HC 64 will use only 64
bits codecs installed on your machine. It's not possible to mix in one
process 32 bits Dll with 64 bits, so you will still MPC-32 to play
RealMedia or Quicktime for example. List of supported codec is:
*
Mpeg2 : using Vista Mpeg2 decoder (need Home editions)
*
WM9/VC1 : with Microsoft decoder
*
H264 : working with ffdshow X64 Experimental
*
XVid : working with ffdshow X64 Experimental
*
MKV : use internal Matroska filter (until Haali x64 is available)
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Notice it says Mpeg2 using Vista Mpeg2 decoder (need Home editions)? So
if you don't already have a 64 bit decoder you are out of luck, right?
I'll try it tomorrow, just wondering if that won't work either...
