Odd display problem - desktop bigger then monitor

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Here is an odd problem - I'm using an SIS mother board and an SIS chipset.
The monitor is a Sony HMD1240. If I put the video into any mode > 1024x768,
the desktop will become larger then the monitor, and as I move my mouse
around, the desktop will scroll back and forth.

My lap does this if I select a resolution bigger then what the screen can
display, but in this case the monitor can easily handle 1280x1024. Is there
any way to force the video card to actually switch to this mode?
 
Re: Odd display problem - desktop bigger then monitor

Sorry - Monitor is Sony HMDA240....

"Zootal" <msnews@zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Here is an odd problem - I'm using an SIS mother board and an SIS chipset.
> The monitor is a Sony HMD1240. If I put the video into any mode >
> 1024x768, the desktop will become larger then the monitor, and as I move
> my mouse around, the desktop will scroll back and forth.
>
> My lap does this if I select a resolution bigger then what the screen can
> display, but in this case the monitor can easily handle 1280x1024. Is
> there any way to force the video card to actually switch to this mode?
>
 
Re: Odd display problem - desktop bigger then monitor

The problem is a mismatch between what the video card can do and the monitor
can do. Actually not so much what they can do, as what they tell each other
they can do.

Check if there's a monitor.inf file available from Sony - this will help by
telling the OS what it does (and does not) support. Also, sometimes an
updated video driver can resolve it. Also, try Personalization, Display, and
on the monitor tab, clear the "hide modes that this monitor cannot display"
box if checked. Then, on the adapter page, click advanced properties and try
different frequencies at the higher resolution to see if one works better
for you.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Zootal" <msnews@zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry - Monitor is Sony HMDA240....
>
> "Zootal" <msnews@zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:ePC41JkrIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Here is an odd problem - I'm using an SIS mother board and an SIS
>> chipset. The monitor is a Sony HMD1240. If I put the video into any mode
>> > 1024x768, the desktop will become larger then the monitor, and as I
>> move my mouse around, the desktop will scroll back and forth.
>>
>> My lap does this if I select a resolution bigger then what the screen can
>> display, but in this case the monitor can easily handle 1280x1024. Is
>> there any way to force the video card to actually switch to this mode?
>>
>
>
 
Re: Odd display problem - desktop bigger then monitor

Charlie,
No Vista or XP x64 *.inf drivers available at Sony.
http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu-list.pl?mdl=HMDA240&LOC=3
It is a 17" CRT type monitor.
I am not at a Vista PC right now, but I think he should change the monitor
driver and choose one of the Vista vanilla "Standard Monitor Types" that
matches his Sony best.
In XP I have found "SuperVGA 1280x1024".
That should do it.
Carlos


"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> The problem is a mismatch between what the video card can do and the monitor
> can do. Actually not so much what they can do, as what they tell each other
> they can do.
>
> Check if there's a monitor.inf file available from Sony - this will help by
> telling the OS what it does (and does not) support. Also, sometimes an
> updated video driver can resolve it. Also, try Personalization, Display, and
> on the monitor tab, clear the "hide modes that this monitor cannot display"
> box if checked. Then, on the adapter page, click advanced properties and try
> different frequencies at the higher resolution to see if one works better
> for you.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Zootal" <msnews@zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:OomcUOkrIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > Sorry - Monitor is Sony HMDA240....
> >
> > "Zootal" <msnews@zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:ePC41JkrIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> Here is an odd problem - I'm using an SIS mother board and an SIS
> >> chipset. The monitor is a Sony HMD1240. If I put the video into any mode
> >> > 1024x768, the desktop will become larger then the monitor, and as I
> >> move my mouse around, the desktop will scroll back and forth.
> >>
> >> My lap does this if I select a resolution bigger then what the screen can
> >> display, but in this case the monitor can easily handle 1280x1024. Is
> >> there any way to force the video card to actually switch to this mode?
> >>
> >
> >
>
 
Re: Odd display problem - desktop bigger then monitor

Ahh...mystery deepens. Tried a known good monitor - same thing. Booted to
Win98, same thing! So I went into the bios, disabled video bios shadow,
turned on fast write support, reboot, no joy, but not surprised. Then, just
for fun, plugged monitor into a box running Slackware with KDE in
1280x1024 - worked fine. This pretty much eliminates everything but gpu and
maybe drivers, but but I'm doubtfull of drivers.

I think I'm going to put a video card in the box instead of using the mobo
video card. I suspect video card, but don't really know how to tell the
video card to "just do it, damn it!". Easiest fix is to just use a different
video card.


"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DC3348DA-1FB4-4F36-9477-86BBCB3A217E@microsoft.com...
> Charlie,
> No Vista or XP x64 *.inf drivers available at Sony.
> http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu-list.pl?mdl=HMDA240&LOC=3
> It is a 17" CRT type monitor.
> I am not at a Vista PC right now, but I think he should change the monitor
> driver and choose one of the Vista vanilla "Standard Monitor Types" that
> matches his Sony best.
> In XP I have found "SuperVGA 1280x1024".
> That should do it.
> Carlos
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>
>> The problem is a mismatch between what the video card can do and the
>> monitor
>> can do. Actually not so much what they can do, as what they tell each
>> other
>> they can do.
>>
>> Check if there's a monitor.inf file available from Sony - this will help
>> by
>> telling the OS what it does (and does not) support. Also, sometimes an
>> updated video driver can resolve it. Also, try Personalization, Display,
>> and
>> on the monitor tab, clear the "hide modes that this monitor cannot
>> display"
>> box if checked. Then, on the adapter page, click advanced properties and
>> try
>> different frequencies at the higher resolution to see if one works better
>> for you.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "Zootal" <msnews@zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:OomcUOkrIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > Sorry - Monitor is Sony HMDA240....
>> >
>> > "Zootal" <msnews@zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
>> > news:ePC41JkrIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> Here is an odd problem - I'm using an SIS mother board and an SIS
>> >> chipset. The monitor is a Sony HMD1240. If I put the video into any
>> >> mode
>> >> > 1024x768, the desktop will become larger then the monitor, and as I
>> >> move my mouse around, the desktop will scroll back and forth.
>> >>
>> >> My lap does this if I select a resolution bigger then what the screen
>> >> can
>> >> display, but in this case the monitor can easily handle 1280x1024. Is
>> >> there any way to force the video card to actually switch to this mode?
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
 
Re: Odd display problem - desktop bigger then monitor

Could be drivers, I agree with Carlos - try "generic" drivers first. (The
way to get to generic drivers is to delete the device entirely from Device
Manager, and then reboot. Windows will rediscover it, and should discover it
as pure VGA)

Getting rid of the problem by putting in a video card is, of course, an
option. And will undoubtedly give you the chance to improve your overall
video experience.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Zootal" <msnews@zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ebI2pIurIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Ahh...mystery deepens. Tried a known good monitor - same thing. Booted to
> Win98, same thing! So I went into the bios, disabled video bios shadow,
> turned on fast write support, reboot, no joy, but not surprised. Then,
> just for fun, plugged monitor into a box running Slackware with KDE in
> 1280x1024 - worked fine. This pretty much eliminates everything but gpu
> and maybe drivers, but but I'm doubtfull of drivers.
>
> I think I'm going to put a video card in the box instead of using the mobo
> video card. I suspect video card, but don't really know how to tell the
> video card to "just do it, damn it!". Easiest fix is to just use a
> different video card.
>
>
> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:DC3348DA-1FB4-4F36-9477-86BBCB3A217E@microsoft.com...
>> Charlie,
>> No Vista or XP x64 *.inf drivers available at Sony.
>> http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu-list.pl?mdl=HMDA240&LOC=3
>> It is a 17" CRT type monitor.
>> I am not at a Vista PC right now, but I think he should change the
>> monitor
>> driver and choose one of the Vista vanilla "Standard Monitor Types" that
>> matches his Sony best.
>> In XP I have found "SuperVGA 1280x1024".
>> That should do it.
>> Carlos
>>
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>>
>>> The problem is a mismatch between what the video card can do and the
>>> monitor
>>> can do. Actually not so much what they can do, as what they tell each
>>> other
>>> they can do.
>>>
>>> Check if there's a monitor.inf file available from Sony - this will help
>>> by
>>> telling the OS what it does (and does not) support. Also, sometimes an
>>> updated video driver can resolve it. Also, try Personalization, Display,
>>> and
>>> on the monitor tab, clear the "hide modes that this monitor cannot
>>> display"
>>> box if checked. Then, on the adapter page, click advanced properties and
>>> try
>>> different frequencies at the higher resolution to see if one works
>>> better
>>> for you.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charlie.
>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>
>>>
>>> "Zootal" <msnews@zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OomcUOkrIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> > Sorry - Monitor is Sony HMDA240....
>>> >
>>> > "Zootal" <msnews@zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> > news:ePC41JkrIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> >> Here is an odd problem - I'm using an SIS mother board and an SIS
>>> >> chipset. The monitor is a Sony HMD1240. If I put the video into any
>>> >> mode
>>> >> > 1024x768, the desktop will become larger then the monitor, and as
>>> >> I
>>> >> move my mouse around, the desktop will scroll back and forth.
>>> >>
>>> >> My lap does this if I select a resolution bigger then what the screen
>>> >> can
>>> >> display, but in this case the monitor can easily handle 1280x1024. Is
>>> >> there any way to force the video card to actually switch to this
>>> >> mode?
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>
>
 
Re: Odd display problem - desktop bigger then monitor

Yeah, I suspect you're right. Looks like he's decided to just put a real
video card in there. Probably a better option, ulitmately.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DC3348DA-1FB4-4F36-9477-86BBCB3A217E@microsoft.com...
> Charlie,
> No Vista or XP x64 *.inf drivers available at Sony.
> http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu-list.pl?mdl=HMDA240&LOC=3
> It is a 17" CRT type monitor.
> I am not at a Vista PC right now, but I think he should change the monitor
> driver and choose one of the Vista vanilla "Standard Monitor Types" that
> matches his Sony best.
> In XP I have found "SuperVGA 1280x1024".
> That should do it.
> Carlos
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>
>> The problem is a mismatch between what the video card can do and the
>> monitor
>> can do. Actually not so much what they can do, as what they tell each
>> other
>> they can do.
>>
>> Check if there's a monitor.inf file available from Sony - this will help
>> by
>> telling the OS what it does (and does not) support. Also, sometimes an
>> updated video driver can resolve it. Also, try Personalization, Display,
>> and
>> on the monitor tab, clear the "hide modes that this monitor cannot
>> display"
>> box if checked. Then, on the adapter page, click advanced properties and
>> try
>> different frequencies at the higher resolution to see if one works better
>> for you.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "Zootal" <msnews@zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:OomcUOkrIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > Sorry - Monitor is Sony HMDA240....
>> >
>> > "Zootal" <msnews@zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
>> > news:ePC41JkrIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> Here is an odd problem - I'm using an SIS mother board and an SIS
>> >> chipset. The monitor is a Sony HMD1240. If I put the video into any
>> >> mode
>> >> > 1024x768, the desktop will become larger then the monitor, and as I
>> >> move my mouse around, the desktop will scroll back and forth.
>> >>
>> >> My lap does this if I select a resolution bigger then what the screen
>> >> can
>> >> display, but in this case the monitor can easily handle 1280x1024. Is
>> >> there any way to force the video card to actually switch to this mode?
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
 
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