Re: Windows XP Professional 64 Bit Edition installed onto an exten
Re: Windows XP Professional 64 Bit Edition installed onto an exten
Hello Charlie,
The good does such a good job, I rarely need to post.
yes I do lurk,
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
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| >From: "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org>
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| >Subject: Re: Windows XP Professional 64 Bit Edition installed onto an
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| >Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 10:26:31 -0700
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| >Good to see you back around here, Darrell. (Though I know you always
| >lurk.<G>)
| >
| >--
| >Charlie.
| >
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
| >
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
| >
| >
| >""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
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| >news:lBAD79usIHA.5848@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...
| >> Hello R.C.
| >> Good reminders
| >> Thanks,
| >> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
| >>
| >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
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| >> | >From: "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net>
| >> | >References: <A5315B2F-1D31-4DB4-BB76-E7DEA548021A@microsoft.com>
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| >> | >Subject: Re: Windows XP Professional 64 Bit Edition installed onto
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| >> exten
| >> | >Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:07:51 -0500
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| >> | >Hi, Darrell.
| >> | >
| >> | >Thanks for jumping in! ;<)
| >> | >
| >> | >I'd like to remind the OP that you said, "If you boot to the...
CD\DVD
| >> to do
| >> | >an installation..." The results are different if you run Vista
Setup
| >> from
| >> | >within WinXP. (My mindset is Vista and I kind of forgot that the OP
| >> said
| >> | >WinXP x64.)
| >> | >
| >> | >Later, you said:
| >> | >> If the drive letter has to be C: make sure it's the first primary
| >> active
| >> | >> partition on the drive when you run setup.
| >> | >
| >> | >Often there are more than one hard drive, and sometimes they are a
mix
| >> of
| >> | >IDE (PATA)/SATA/SCSI/USB... In this situation, the BIOS and the
| >> operating
| >> | >system can disagree as to which is "the drive when you run setup."
:>(
| >> | >
| >> | >Since I have only one computer and Vista has been very stable, I've
not
| >> had
| >> | >to reinstall Vista since I rebuilt my system over a year ago. But I
| >> recall
| >> | >the many reinstalls during the long beta period. I still have
several
| >> | >multi-boots installed, but seldom boot into anything but Vista
Ultimate
| >> x64,
| >> | >which is in Drive C:, the first logical drive in the extended
partition
| >> on
| >> | >my second HD. Each of my 3 HDs has a System Partition, but I
seldom
| >> use
| >> any
| >> | >other than Drive D:, which is the first (only) primary active
partition
| >> on
| >> | >that second HD. My WinXP refused to boot at about the time Vista
went
| >> RTM
| >> | >and all my sporadic attempts to revive it with a repair install have
| >> failed,
| >> | >so I haven't run WinXP in a year and a half. When WinXP w/SP3
arrives
| >> Real
| >> | >Soon Now, I may try the repair install again. I do boot into a
| >> separate
| >> | >WinXP x64 occasionally, just to be sure I still can.
| >> | >
| >> | >Note that it is NOT necessary for WinXP and Vista to agree on which
| >> volume
| >> | >is Drive C:, or any other letter. Each operating system keeps its
own
| >> | >letter assignments. But I've made sure that they agree that my
WinXP
| >> is
| >> in
| >> | >Drive F:, the first logical drive in the extended partition on my
first
| >> HD.
| >> | >
| >> | >RC
| >> | >--
| >> | >R. C. White, CPA
| >> | >San Marcos, TX
| >> | >rc@grandecom.net
| >> | >Microsoft Windows MVP
| >> | >(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
| >> | >
| >> | >""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
| >> message
| >> | >news:Ts56JSXsIHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...
| >> | >> Hello,
| >> | >> Correct.
| >> | >> If you boot to the CD to do CD\DVD to do an installation with
Windows
| >> XP
| >> | >> or
| >> | >> Windows Server 2003 ( Either 32-bit or 64-bit)
| >> | >> The local hard drive volumes are enumerated and assigned drive
| >> letters.
| >> | >> The first active primary partition it finds it given drive letter
C.
| >> | >> If a volume exists it gets a drive letter, if you create a new
volume
| >> it
| >> | >> gets the next available drive letter.
| >> | >> Setup does not reallocate hard drive letters, so if you delete a
| >> volume,
| >> | >> that drive letter is reserved in that setup session.
| >> | >> Even if you create a new volume, that new volume gets the next
free
| >> drive
| >> | >> letter. The existing drive letters are available after setup
| >> completes
| >> or
| >> | >> if you reboot to the CD\DVD
| >> | >>
| >> | >> Drive Letter C,
| >> | >> Windows doesn't care like R.C states.
| >> | >> The majority of customers do not care.
| >> | >> However a very small number of people care and care in different
| >> ways.
| >> | >> Some want the drive to always be C:, some do not want it to be C:
| >> | >> If the drive letter has to be C: make sure it's the first primary
| >> active
| >> | >> partition on the drive when you run setup.
| >> | >>
| >> | >> Changing it after the OS is installed would cause any number or
| >> problems
| >> | >> with the OS.
| >> | >> There are references to the installed drive letter throughout the
| >> system.
| >> | >> Each of those would have to be changed for the system to work
| >> properly.
| >> | >>
| >> | >> The default for setup is to create a primary partition as the
first
| >> | >> partition and create an Extended partition if a primary already
| >> exists
| >> on
| >> | >> the system.
| >> | >> Thanks,
| >> | >> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
| >> | >>
| >> | ><SNIP>
| >> | >> | >
| >> | >> | >Hi, umwhat.
| >> | >> | >
| >> | >> | >WinXP or Vista don't much care whether they are on a primary
| >> partition
| >> | >> or on
| >> | >> | >a logical drive in an extended partition. And they don't care
if
| >> they
| >> | >> are
| >> | >> | >installed on Drive C: or Drive D: or Drive X:. They go where
YOU
| >> tell
| >> | >> them,
| >> | >> | >even if you are sleepwalking at the time and don't pay
attention
| >> to
| >> the
| >> | >> | >dialog boxes.
| >> | >> | >
| >> | >> | >Once installed, there is no way for us mere mortals to change
the
| >> drive
| >> | >> | >letters for the System Partition or the Boot Volume short of
| >> starting
| >> | >> over
| >> | >> | >and installing again.
| >> | >> | >
| >> | >> | >You might want to read a couple of KB articles:
| >> | >> | >Definitions for system volume and boot volume
| >> | >> | >
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/314470/EN-US/
| >> | >> | >
| >> | >> | >You cannot change the system volume drive letter after Setup
| >> | >> | >
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;223769
| >> | >> | >
| >> | >> | >Disk Management will let us change the other drive letters,
but
| >> not
| >> the
| >> | >> | >System Partition and, if different, the Boot Volume.
| >> | >> | >
| >> | >> | >RC
| >> | >> | >
| >> | >> | >"umwhat" <mesomewhere@someotherplace.com> wrote in message
| >> | >> | >news
517F7EB-A5E2-4422-AEA2-508B77D112CB@microsoft.com...
| >> | >> | >> I t seems odd thWindows should install to a D: drive when I
| >> would
| >> | >> think it
| >> | >> | >> would default install to a C: drive. Why has it done this
and
| >> why
| >> did
| >> | >> the
| >> | >> | >> installation make an extended partition and not a primary
| >> partition.
| >> | >> | >> From what I have seen I can not change the drive letters I
could
| >> make
| >> | >> D:
| >> | >> | >> drive a Dynamic Partition but would that help make it into
the
| >> C:
| >> | >> drive.
| >> | >> | >>
| >> | >> | >>
| >> | >> | >> --
| >> | >> | >> ...scribble...scribble...scribble...
| >> | >> | >>
| >> | >> | >>
| >> | >> | >> "Bobby Johnson" wrote:
| >> | >> | >>
| >> | >> | >>> Maybe I missed it, but what is your question?
| >> | >> | >>>
| >> | >> | >>>
| >> | >> | >>> umwhat wrote:
| >> | >> | >>> > ...partition and I did not tell it to....that is funny
isn't
| >> | >> | >>> > it?...anyway...the harddrive is a 320GB Sata 3.0GB/sec
| >> harddrive
| >> | >> and
| >> | >> | >>> > has 2
| >> | >> | >>> > partitions, 1 @ 278GB and 1 @ 20GB with the backed up
files
| >> left
| >> | >> over
| >> | >> | >>> > from a
| >> | >> | >>> > Windows XP installation and the files I used to install
the
| >> | >> drivers
| >> | >> for
| >> | >> | >>> > 64
| >> | >> | >>> > Bit Professional.
| >> | >> | >>> > The 278GB partition is labled D: and the small partition
is
| >> | >> labelled
| >> | >> | >>> > C:
| >> | >> | >>> > which after my mere 4 years of computing leaves me feeling
| >> | >> somewhat
| >> | >> | >>> > disappointed, mostly because I think the first partition
| >> should be
| >> | >> | >>> > labelled
| >> | >> | >>> > C: and the smaller partition I think should be labelled
D: .
| >> | >> | ><SNIP>
| >> | >
| >> | >
| >>
| >
| >