Re: Starting your PC without the front panel power button
Straight up answer, read it twice if necessary.
The CASE has/should have a power supply button which has *two leads/wires*
running to the ATX style motherboard [AT style testing is slightly
different, these power buttons are NOT momentary but provide constant
connection].
IF ATX SYLE:
These two leads connect to two pins on the motherboard. WHERE these two
pins connect IS the testing position where you EITHER use the paper clip
WITHOUT uninstalling the connector, push the paperclip into the two holes IN
the connector next two each of the two wires MOMENTARILY, OR where you place
the multi-meter leads to test for voltage BEFORE OR AFTER removing the
connector. IF the computer boots you MAY have a bad switch OR a bad
connection.
ALSO using the multi-meter and AFTER removing the two wire connector, place
the leads from the multi-meter into the connector from the power switch and
test for connection using the *continuity* testing aspect of the meter OR
using one of the *KOHM* settings AND *while pressing the button and
releasing*. IF you get a reading OTHER THAN 0 [zero] or the default
unconnected display, the button is good OR if the continuity test
BEEPS/alarms or flashes a light [depends on the meter] you have a good
button {usually}.
IF the button tests okay, and the temporary connection [paper clip or
{shudder} screwdriver} DID NOT turn on the computer you either have a bad
motherboard [or one of its components] OR a bad power supply.
FOR THE SCREWDRIVER APPROACH: momentarily touch the two exposed pins on the
motherboard from where you disconnected the power switch leads. BE CAREFULL,
this is not a recommended procedure as a slip MIGHT contact other parts of
the board electronics causing a DIRECT SHORT or other damage.
IF AT STYLE:
IF it is an AT style board, the preferred method is to create a
shunt/jumper, a plain wire WITHOUT exposed wires, which you push onto the
pins for completed constant connection. This is placed WITH THE POWER
COMPLETELY DISCONNECTED. IF this works, then replace the shunt/jumper with a
new switch.
You stated, I think, that you replaced the board, did you replace the
GROUNDING screw in the right hole and connection on the case and
motherboard?
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MEB
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"attilathehun1" <attilathehun1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AB38BEB6-9100-4E3E-BC5A-96FF622FF63B@microsoft.com...
| Look, all I wanted to do was get a simple answer to where I touch the
screw
| driver. I know my motherboard. There is no way I can use a screw driver
from
| the answers you have given. You haven't given me a right on answer,
straight,
| for example, touch the screw driver from the battery to the point where
the
| start up button assembly plugs into the motherboard. Or take a paper clip
and
| stick it into the connector where the P1 power supply connector goes in.
| Nothing like that has been told to me. All these answers are vague.
Someone
| give a staight up answer.
| And yes I did go out and buy a power supply for 10 bucks, a used one that
| works on a Gateway. Also, I do have a multi-meter that I use to test
| batteries. No one has told me to take the multi-meter and touch it to a
| certain spot on the power supply and take a reading. Or no one has said to
me
| to take the multi-meter and take a reading from the connector on the
| motherboard while the P1 is plugged in or whatever. All these answers are
in
| the grey area.
| Anyone would get upset with these answers after someone saying you don't
| know your elbow from you know what and then saying to take your PC to a PC
| tech.
| I just want some definite answers. Just the way I would answer someone
who
| asked a question if I knew the answer.
| Thanks,
attilathehun1
| --
| attilathehun1
|
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
|
| > Boo-hoo-hoo. Here's a Kleenex. Now, blow. Good boy!
| >
| > Have you figured out if the power button works or not? Or are you too
cheap
| > to buy a multi-tester?
| >
| > --
| > Gary S. Terhune
| > MS-MVP Shell/User
| >
www.grystmill.com
| >
| > "attilathehun1" <attilathehun1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
| > news:E2FA0310-D0A4-48ED-960C-6500BB8C4021@microsoft.com...
| > > Ok, I did and I know from trial and error. That's exactly how the last
PC
| > > tech did it when I brought it into him. In fact, he lied. I brought
the PC
| > > into him and told him I didn't want to pay the 25 dollars and just to
buy
| > > a
| > > power supply that fits the machine or something to that nature. He
told me
| > > don't worry, I'll do it just so we get it right and there will be no
| > > problems.
| > > Well I said ok, no probs go ahead then. When I saw the bill and said
wtf
| > > is
| > > this 25 bucks for? OH, that for me working on it. I said wtf I
thought
| > > you
| > > said you'd do it and just so it would be done right. The mother...
ripped
| > > me
| > > off. So, wtf am I to say in that situation. I paid him and told him
this
| > > would be the last time I brought my PC into this PC store.
| > > Getting back to the problem, which had been made into a mountain from
a
| > > molehill, I did test it and yes the motherboard probably got damaged
or
| > > shorted out or ESD might have ruined it . I stuck the paperclip into
the
| > > two
| > > pin holes and nothing happened. So, I assume that's the problem.
| > > See I've never had to do this before and I figured a little advice,
plain
| > > and simple, would be enough information. I guess not. Anotherwords,
you
| > > (pl)
| > > don't no how to do it. You don't no wtf you are talking about. See
I've
| > > encountered your kind. Read upwards.
| > > Ok, thanks for nothing.
| > > attilathehun1
| > >
| > > See there are problems out there and lies from PC techs. I mean is it
that
| > > bad? I just wanted a confirmation, and if it's going to be that bad,
then
| > > forget it.
| > >
| > > --
| > > attilathehun1
| > >
| > >
| > > "attilathehun1" wrote:
| > >
| > >> I'd like to know how to start up my PC without the front panel power
| > >> button
| > >> assembly because my PC won't start or fire up. Nothing happens when I
hit
| > >> the
| > >> power button. The power supply works, so I figure it might be the
power
| > >> button assembly that's the problem. I'm using a process of
elimination to
| > >> do
| > >> this and the power button assembly is next on the process of
elimination.
| > >> Thanks, attilathehun1
| > >> --
| > >> attilathehun1
| >
| >