Stay away from McAfee

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I have the option of downloading free McAfee internet security from my ISP,
so I did.

Right away I noticed a serious slow down, but I decided to give it some time
since it was FREE and comprehensive software.

All in all is wa OK, then came the latest update, that's when all hell broke
out.
-Anything Flash stopped working,
-the sidebar gadgets become distorted and unviewable,
-If I turned off UAC the whole system had a seizure
-With UAC on I couldn't actually do anything
-Control Panel took 10 seconds plus just to open up and twice that to populate
-And I couldn't even access the McAfee security center to adjust it

So, of course, I installed the thing. Too late, the damage was done and I
spent a day getting my system back to normal which required a System Restore
back to pre-McAfee and the reinstall of nearly all my drivers and 1/3 of my
software, which I could only do after I used HP's recovery to get the
computer 'back to factory' condition (this ended up erasing all personal
items, which I luckily had backed-up on DVD).

Norton IS 2007 that came as trail-ware with the system was slow, but at
least it was stable and intrusive.

I hate you McAfee!
 
Re: Stay away from McAfee

McAfee and Norton are not compatible and cause many issues with Vista as it does with other OS's. Using something like Avast free will do a better job and is much less intrusive.

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"romanom" <romanom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8F09D5B4-8690-405B-B013-D2BEB4C07199@microsoft.com...
>I have the option of downloading free McAfee internet security from my ISP,
> so I did.
>
> Right away I noticed a serious slow down, but I decided to give it some time
> since it was FREE and comprehensive software.
>
> All in all is wa OK, then came the latest update, that's when all hell broke
> out.
> -Anything Flash stopped working,
> -the sidebar gadgets become distorted and unviewable,
> -If I turned off UAC the whole system had a seizure
> -With UAC on I couldn't actually do anything
> -Control Panel took 10 seconds plus just to open up and twice that to populate
> -And I couldn't even access the McAfee security center to adjust it
>
> So, of course, I installed the thing. Too late, the damage was done and I
> spent a day getting my system back to normal which required a System Restore
> back to pre-McAfee and the reinstall of nearly all my drivers and 1/3 of my
> software, which I could only do after I used HP's recovery to get the
> computer 'back to factory' condition (this ended up erasing all personal
> items, which I luckily had backed-up on DVD).
>
> Norton IS 2007 that came as trail-ware with the system was slow, but at
> least it was stable and intrusive.
>
> I hate you McAfee!
 
Re: Stay away from McAfee

Both McAfee and Norton are totally compatible with Vista. The problem is
that they are resource hogs.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
"Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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McAfee and Norton are not compatible and cause many issues with Vista as it
does with other OS's. Using something like Avast free will do a better job
and is much less intrusive.

--
Peter

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"romanom" <romanom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have the option of downloading free McAfee internet security from my ISP,
> so I did.
>
> Right away I noticed a serious slow down, but I decided to give it some
> time
> since it was FREE and comprehensive software.
>
> All in all is wa OK, then came the latest update, that's when all hell
> broke
> out.
> -Anything Flash stopped working,
> -the sidebar gadgets become distorted and unviewable,
> -If I turned off UAC the whole system had a seizure
> -With UAC on I couldn't actually do anything
> -Control Panel took 10 seconds plus just to open up and twice that to
> populate
> -And I couldn't even access the McAfee security center to adjust it
>
> So, of course, I installed the thing. Too late, the damage was done and I
> spent a day getting my system back to normal which required a System
> Restore
> back to pre-McAfee and the reinstall of nearly all my drivers and 1/3 of
> my
> software, which I could only do after I used HP's recovery to get the
> computer 'back to factory' condition (this ended up erasing all personal
> items, which I luckily had backed-up on DVD).
>
> Norton IS 2007 that came as trail-ware with the system was slow, but at
> least it was stable and intrusive.
>
> I hate you McAfee!
 
Re: Stay away from McAfee


>
> Norton IS 2007 that came as trail-ware with the system was slow, but at
> least it was stable and intrusive.
>
> I hate you McAfee!



hmmm...."intrusive"? or unobtrusive? :) I find that it is the latter.

Dave
 
Re: Stay away from McAfee

Peter Foldes wrote:
> McAfee and Norton are not compatible and cause many issues with Vista as it does with other OS's. Using something like Avast free will do a better job and is much less intrusive.
>


Please give me a couple of issues that NIS2007 causes WITH VISTA. I've
yet to have any problems with NIS2007, other than symantec tech support
has been unable to answer a question I have about some alerts.

Dave
 
Re: Stay away from McAfee

Peter wrote:
> Both McAfee and Norton are totally compatible with Vista. The problem
> is that they are resource hogs.
>

I must be clueless---despite using NIS2007, my laptops run just fine.
 
Re: Stay away from McAfee

Not as much with Vista but rather mostly with email clients. Some issues include not sending,not receiving ,duplicates,corruption of identity etc etc etc

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"David" <David@invalid.com> wrote in message news:Wa-dnWvbCvBWES7bnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@comcast.com...
> Peter Foldes wrote:
>> McAfee and Norton are not compatible and cause many issues with Vista as it does with other OS's. Using something like Avast free will do a better job and is much less intrusive.
>>

>
> Please give me a couple of issues that NIS2007 causes WITH VISTA. I've
> yet to have any problems with NIS2007, other than symantec tech support
> has been unable to answer a question I have about some alerts.
>
> Dave
 
Re: Stay away from McAfee

I'm using McAfee and it works just fine. Some people have problems but
that's par for the course IMHO.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
"David" <David@invalid.com> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> Norton IS 2007 that came as trail-ware with the system was slow, but at
>> least it was stable and intrusive.
>>
>> I hate you McAfee!

>
>
> hmmm...."intrusive"? or unobtrusive? :) I find that it is the latter.
>
> Dave
 
Re: Stay away from McAfee

It is (McAfee) like a time bomb. It will eventually hit and show it's face. Always does

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"Peter" <ex_brit@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:uhjV%23Ah1HHA.5172@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I'm using McAfee and it works just fine. Some people have problems but
> that's par for the course IMHO.
>
> --
> Peter
> Toronto, Canada
> "David" <David@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:Wa-dnWjbCvDdES7bnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>>>
>>> Norton IS 2007 that came as trail-ware with the system was slow, but at
>>> least it was stable and intrusive.
>>>
>>> I hate you McAfee!

>>
>>
>> hmmm...."intrusive"? or unobtrusive? :) I find that it is the latter.
>>
>> Dave

>
 
Re: Stay away from McAfee

"romanom" <romanom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8F09D5B4-8690-405B-B013-D2BEB4C07199@microsoft.com...
>I have the option of downloading free McAfee internet security from my ISP,
> so I did.
> Norton IS 2007 that came as trail-ware with the system was slow, but at
> least it was stable and intrusive.
>

According to AV security experts the RETAIL versions of Norton and McAfee
should be avoided.
Avira AntiVir® PersonalEdition Classic is a better option.
http://www.free-av.com/antivirus/allinonen.html
 
Re: Stay away from McAfee

Kayman wrote:
> "romanom" <romanom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8F09D5B4-8690-405B-B013-D2BEB4C07199@microsoft.com...
>> I have the option of downloading free McAfee internet security from
>> my ISP,
>> so I did.
>> Norton IS 2007 that came as trail-ware with the system was slow, but at
>> least it was stable and intrusive.
>>

> According to AV security experts the RETAIL versions of Norton and
> McAfee should be avoided.
> Avira AntiVir® PersonalEdition Classic is a better option.
> http://www.free-av.com/antivirus/allinonen.html

who are these "AV security experts, anyway? I think you'll find that
there are millions of satisified users of both products. I didn't like
McAfee at all, but I DO like NIS2007. McAfee got on my nerves so much
that i ininstalled it and loaded AVG for a while until I could use my
"save $20" coupon at Costco on NIS2007. The coupon had a narrow window
of time when it was valid, which was about a 5 weeks or so after I
purchased my new laptop.

Dave
 
Re: Stay away from McAfee

I too installed free McAfee and let it do a pc cleanup. Strangely, my
system restore points disappeared, my auto backup stopped and all of my
shadow copies were gone. I tried fixing the problem in the registry but
matters just got worse. Since I no longer had a restore point, I had to
reformat and reinstall Vista. Fortunately I had backed up to DVD just a few
weeks prior to installing McAfee so I didn't lose much more than time and
effort. I am now using AVG. It works faster and no problems. I recommend
it.

"Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uNtSwed1HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
McAfee and Norton are not compatible and cause many issues with Vista as it
does with other OS's. Using something like Avast free will do a better job
and is much less intrusive.

--
Peter

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"romanom" <romanom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8F09D5B4-8690-405B-B013-D2BEB4C07199@microsoft.com...
>I have the option of downloading free McAfee internet security from my ISP,
> so I did.
>
> Right away I noticed a serious slow down, but I decided to give it some
> time
> since it was FREE and comprehensive software.
>
> All in all is wa OK, then came the latest update, that's when all hell
> broke
> out.
> -Anything Flash stopped working,
> -the sidebar gadgets become distorted and unviewable,
> -If I turned off UAC the whole system had a seizure
> -With UAC on I couldn't actually do anything
> -Control Panel took 10 seconds plus just to open up and twice that to
> populate
> -And I couldn't even access the McAfee security center to adjust it
>
> So, of course, I installed the thing. Too late, the damage was done and I
> spent a day getting my system back to normal which required a System
> Restore
> back to pre-McAfee and the reinstall of nearly all my drivers and 1/3 of
> my
> software, which I could only do after I used HP's recovery to get the
> computer 'back to factory' condition (this ended up erasing all personal
> items, which I luckily had backed-up on DVD).
>
> Norton IS 2007 that came as trail-ware with the system was slow, but at
> least it was stable and intrusive.
>
> I hate you McAfee!
 
Re: Stay away from McAfee




David,

You seem to be willing to defend Norton/Symantec at any cost, regardless of
what knowledgeable people are trying to tell you. That is your right to do so.
However, you will have only yourself to blame when you begin to have myriad
problems.

Norton/Symantec security software, like McAfee and ZoneAlarm, are bloated
applications that hog your resources. The support departments of all three
are the worst I have encountered.

The information I am giving you is based upon years of experience with all
three products. However, I respect your right to use and defend whichever
product you wish.

Have a nice day.

C.B.
 
Re: Stay away from McAfee

I have been using McAfee for years. First on Windows xp and now on Vista and
I have never had any problems with it.

"CB" wrote:
David,
>
> You seem to be willing to defend Norton/Symantec at any cost, regardless of
> what knowledgeable people are trying to tell you. That is your right to do so.
> However, you will have only yourself to blame when you begin to have myriad
> problems.
>
> Norton/Symantec security software, like McAfee and ZoneAlarm, are bloated
> applications that hog your resources. The support departments of all three
> are the worst I have encountered.
>
> The information I am giving you is based upon years of experience with all
> three products. However, I respect your right to use and defend whichever
> product you wish.
>
> Have a nice day.
>
> C.B.
>
>
 
Re: Stay away from McAfee

Ladybug,

I am glad it has not caused you any problems you are aware of and you are
satisfied with a system that could be performing much better with a different
security application.

Have a nice day.

C.B.

"Ladybug" wrote:

> I have been using McAfee for years. First on Windows xp and now on Vista and
> I have never had any problems with it.
>
> "CB" wrote:
> David,
> >
> > You seem to be willing to defend Norton/Symantec at any cost, regardless of
> > what knowledgeable people are trying to tell you. That is your right to do so.
> > However, you will have only yourself to blame when you begin to have myriad
> > problems.
> >
> > Norton/Symantec security software, like McAfee and ZoneAlarm, are bloated
> > applications that hog your resources. The support departments of all three
> > are the worst I have encountered.
> >
> > The information I am giving you is based upon years of experience with all
> > three products. However, I respect your right to use and defend whichever
> > product you wish.
> >
> > Have a nice day.
> >
> > C.B.
> >
> >
 
Re: Stay away from McAfee

Hockey puck. Maybe for you, but my company has been using McAfee for the 4
years I have been working for them with no difficulty that I know of,
including Vista. That may be because of the efforts of our IT staff, but
McAfee at an enterprise level has been fine.

Do I use it at home? Nope. I use ESET NOD32, since at home I have a staff of
one ... me ... and NOD32 has been the most painless AV solution I have
found.

--
The personal opinion of
Gary G. Little


"Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Oil5dbj1HHA.1336@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
It is (McAfee) like a time bomb. It will eventually hit and show it's face.
Always does

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"Peter" <ex_brit@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:uhjV%23Ah1HHA.5172@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I'm using McAfee and it works just fine. Some people have problems but
> that's par for the course IMHO.
>
> --
> Peter
> Toronto, Canada
> "David" <David@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:Wa-dnWjbCvDdES7bnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>>>
>>> Norton IS 2007 that came as trail-ware with the system was slow, but at
>>> least it was stable and intrusive.
>>>
>>> I hate you McAfee!

>>
>>
>> hmmm...."intrusive"? or unobtrusive? :) I find that it is the latter.
>>
>> Dave

>
 
Re: Stay away from McAfee

CB wrote:
>
>
> David,
>
> You seem to be willing to defend Norton/Symantec at any cost, regardless of
> what knowledgeable people are trying to tell you. That is your right to do so.
> However, you will have only yourself to blame when you begin to have myriad
> problems.
>
> Norton/Symantec security software, like McAfee and ZoneAlarm, are bloated
> applications that hog your resources. The support departments of all three
> are the worst I have encountered.
>
> The information I am giving you is based upon years of experience with all
> three products. However, I respect your right to use and defend whichever
> product you wish.
>
> Have a nice day.
>
> C.B.
>
>

I believe that's an mistaken inference on your part. I'd no intention
of "defending" McAfee!! I don't like it at all. Norton I'm ok with.
"Any cost"?? Just what did you mean? oh, and I agree their support
SUCKS. I've had no resources issues with the apps I run on our two
laptops running NIS2007. YES, NIS2007 uses a fair amount of resources.
To the point of causing problems for me? NO.

"Have a nice day" is generally inferred to be rudeness, when it follows
a highly argumentative/condenscending post. I'll not match your little
digs with any of my own...if, however, you meant that innocently, feel
free to correct me. :)

Dave
 
Re: Stay away from McAfee

Hello,

I have to defend CB here in that
Norton/Symantec security software,
like McAfee and ZoneAlarm, are bloated applications that hog your resources.
The support departments of all three are the worst I have encountered. [end
quote]

This is not to say there are people out there who are very happy with these
companie and their products; but, it doesn't defer from the actual fact that
they can be bloated applications that hog all your resources. CB is
highlighting a fact and nothing else.

May.


"David" <David@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> CB wrote:
>>
>>
>> David,
>>
>> You seem to be willing to defend Norton/Symantec at any cost, regardless
>> of what knowledgeable people are trying to tell you. That is your right
>> to do so.
>> However, you will have only yourself to blame when you begin to have
>> myriad problems.
>>
>> Norton/Symantec security software, like McAfee and ZoneAlarm, are bloated
>> applications that hog your resources. The support departments of all
>> three are the worst I have encountered.
>>
>> The information I am giving you is based upon years of experience with
>> all three products. However, I respect your right to use and defend
>> whichever product you wish.
>>
>> Have a nice day.
>>
>> C.B.
>>
>>

> I believe that's an mistaken inference on your part. I'd no intention of
> "defending" McAfee!! I don't like it at all. Norton I'm ok with. "Any
> cost"?? Just what did you mean? oh, and I agree their support SUCKS.
> I've had no resources issues with the apps I run on our two laptops
> running NIS2007. YES, NIS2007 uses a fair amount of resources. To the
> point of causing problems for me? NO.
>
> "Have a nice day" is generally inferred to be rudeness, when it follows a
> highly argumentative/condenscending post. I'll not match your little digs
> with any of my own...if, however, you meant that innocently, feel free to
> correct me. :)
>
> Dave
 
Re: Stay away from McAfee


>
>
> This is not to say there are people out there who are very happy with
> these companie and their products; but, it doesn't defer from the
> actual fact that they can be bloated applications that hog all your
> resources. CB is highlighting a fact and nothing else.
>
> May.
>

Fact? "hog all your resources"? If that were true, my Vista
installation would be unusable because "all" resources have been
"hogged" by NIS2007. Your "defense" of CB is as flawed as their earlier
comments. If you don't like the programs, the least you could do is
offer legitimate explanations of WHY, rather than resorting to
nonsensical whimsy such as "hog all your resources". That's simply untrue.

Dave
 
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