win98 se startup issues

schmenge · May 13, 2008

Every time I try to boot my computer, I get the message that it's "preparing
to run windows for the first time". I go through that process and let it
detect devices and install drivers, but when I restart I get the same message
again and must repeat the detection process. I remember from a while back
that setup makes some changes to some boot files to reflect that it is first
boot, but I can't recall which files. Can anyone help with this issue? It's
Windows 98 SE, and the computer was given to me by a previous owner; he used
it for business and removed all his files then gave me the box.

Thanks in advance.

philo · May 13, 2008

Re: win98 se startup issues

"schmenge" <schmenge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:88945D34-0E13-4603-88B6-08A30194B0E3@microsoft.com...
> Every time I try to boot my computer, I get the message that it's
"preparing
> to run windows for the first time". I go through that process and let it
> detect devices and install drivers, but when I restart I get the same
message
> again and must repeat the detection process. I remember from a while back
> that setup makes some changes to some boot files to reflect that it is
first
> boot, but I can't recall which files. Can anyone help with this issue?
It's
> Windows 98 SE, and the computer was given to me by a previous owner; he
used
> it for business and removed all his files then gave me the box.
>
> Thanks in advance.

Since the machine had a previous owner...
I recommend a fresh install

Gary S. Terhune · May 13, 2008

Re: win98 se startup issues

Did he give you the installation CDs for Windows and the applications? If
not, that box is worthless and you may as well not even bother to fix it.
You're going to need those CDs, anyway, for situations like the one you're
in.

You really want to run a box that was possibly infected with who knows how
many viruses, etc., that may have easily recoverable "deleted" files with
evidence of a crime like pedo-porn?

That machine should be wiped clean using a security wipe and then a new
system installed. Otherwise, throw it away, or rather, recycle it properly.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"schmenge" <schmenge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:88945D34-0E13-4603-88B6-08A30194B0E3@microsoft.com...
> Every time I try to boot my computer, I get the message that it's
> "preparing
> to run windows for the first time". I go through that process and let it
> detect devices and install drivers, but when I restart I get the same
> message
> again and must repeat the detection process. I remember from a while back
> that setup makes some changes to some boot files to reflect that it is
> first
> boot, but I can't recall which files. Can anyone help with this issue?
> It's
> Windows 98 SE, and the computer was given to me by a previous owner; he
> used
> it for business and removed all his files then gave me the box.
>
> Thanks in advance.

Don Phillipson · May 13, 2008

Re: win98 se startup issues

"schmenge" <schmenge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:88945D34-0E13-4603-88B6-08A30194B0E3@microsoft.com...

> Every time I try to boot my computer, I get the message that it's
"preparing
> to run windows for the first time". I go through that process and let it
> detect devices and install drivers, but when I restart I get the same
message
> again and must repeat the detection process. I remember from a while back
> that setup makes some changes to some boot files to reflect that it is
first
> boot, but I can't recall which files.

1. Run a reliable check for viruses and malware.
2. Prepare to reformat and reinstal from scratch from
your Win98SE system CD. Good advice is at
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html
3. Before that boot DOS (as can he done from your boot
floppy) and
DEL C:\temp\*.*
DEL C:\WINDOWS\temp\*.*
FDISK /MBR
These DOS commands will clear away vestiges of incomplete
failed installations, a possible cause of your startup message.
Just possibly, Windows may then start OK.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

MEB · May 13, 2008

Re: win98 se startup issues

Check autoexec.bat, config.sys, msdos.sys, and check for setuplog.txt.

Files which might be indicative:
Bootlog.txt - create one by selecting it from the Menu [press F8 repeatedly
during boot]
Detlog.txt - detection log
Netlog.txt - network detection
Setuplog.txt - setup information created during installation
Detcrash.log - detection crash log - obvious

Trying to start in SAFE Mode might let you diagnose issues which may be
affecting the normal startup. Rapidly tap F8 during bootup, choose it from
the Menu.
MSInfo might provide you with the machine history that might provide
additional clues. Checking Device Manager while in Safe Mode, delete any
devices that are not still included in the system.
ASD [automatic skip driver agent] also might be of interest or use.

You also might want to check for corruption of the registry by running
scanreg /fix at the DOS prompt..

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"schmenge" <schmenge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:88945D34-0E13-4603-88B6-08A30194B0E3@microsoft.com...
| Every time I try to boot my computer, I get the message that it's
"preparing
| to run windows for the first time". I go through that process and let it
| detect devices and install drivers, but when I restart I get the same
message
| again and must repeat the detection process. I remember from a while back
| that setup makes some changes to some boot files to reflect that it is
first
| boot, but I can't recall which files. Can anyone help with this issue?
It's
| Windows 98 SE, and the computer was given to me by a previous owner; he
used
| it for business and removed all his files then gave me the box.
|
| Thanks in advance.

schmenge · May 13, 2008

Re: win98 se startup issues

Thank you, kind folks. The last 2 replies are more promising; I hate to
re-install unless there are no options.

"MEB" wrote:

> Check autoexec.bat, config.sys, msdos.sys, and check for setuplog.txt.
>
> Files which might be indicative:
> Bootlog.txt - create one by selecting it from the Menu [press F8 repeatedly
> during boot]
> Detlog.txt - detection log
> Netlog.txt - network detection
> Setuplog.txt - setup information created during installation
> Detcrash.log - detection crash log - obvious
>
> Trying to start in SAFE Mode might let you diagnose issues which may be
> affecting the normal startup. Rapidly tap F8 during bootup, choose it from
> the Menu.
> MSInfo might provide you with the machine history that might provide
> additional clues. Checking Device Manager while in Safe Mode, delete any
> devices that are not still included in the system.
> ASD [automatic skip driver agent] also might be of interest or use.
>
> You also might want to check for corruption of the registry by running
> scanreg /fix at the DOS prompt..
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
> "schmenge" <schmenge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:88945D34-0E13-4603-88B6-08A30194B0E3@microsoft.com...
> | Every time I try to boot my computer, I get the message that it's
> "preparing
> | to run windows for the first time". I go through that process and let it
> | detect devices and install drivers, but when I restart I get the same
> message
> | again and must repeat the detection process. I remember from a while back
> | that setup makes some changes to some boot files to reflect that it is
> first
> | boot, but I can't recall which files. Can anyone help with this issue?
> It's
> | Windows 98 SE, and the computer was given to me by a previous owner; he
> used
> | it for business and removed all his files then gave me the box.
> |
> | Thanks in advance.
>
>
>

Gary S. Terhune · May 13, 2008

Re: win98 se startup issues

Psssst! I got another $20. I bet "schmenge" = "Dan".

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eBr789VtIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Check autoexec.bat, config.sys, msdos.sys, and check for setuplog.txt.
>
> Files which might be indicative:
> Bootlog.txt - create one by selecting it from the Menu [press F8
> repeatedly
> during boot]
> Detlog.txt - detection log
> Netlog.txt - network detection
> Setuplog.txt - setup information created during installation
> Detcrash.log - detection crash log - obvious
>
> Trying to start in SAFE Mode might let you diagnose issues which may be
> affecting the normal startup. Rapidly tap F8 during bootup, choose it from
> the Menu.
> MSInfo might provide you with the machine history that might provide
> additional clues. Checking Device Manager while in Safe Mode, delete any
> devices that are not still included in the system.
> ASD [automatic skip driver agent] also might be of interest or use.
>
> You also might want to check for corruption of the registry by running
> scanreg /fix at the DOS prompt..
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
> "schmenge" <schmenge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:88945D34-0E13-4603-88B6-08A30194B0E3@microsoft.com...
> | Every time I try to boot my computer, I get the message that it's
> "preparing
> | to run windows for the first time". I go through that process and let
> it
> | detect devices and install drivers, but when I restart I get the same
> message
> | again and must repeat the detection process. I remember from a while
> back
> | that setup makes some changes to some boot files to reflect that it is
> first
> | boot, but I can't recall which files. Can anyone help with this issue?
> It's
> | Windows 98 SE, and the computer was given to me by a previous owner; he
> used
> | it for business and removed all his files then gave me the box.
> |
> | Thanks in advance.
>
>

Gary S. Terhune · May 13, 2008

Re: win98 se startup issues

AFAIK, that message only appears during installation of Windows 98. Since
you don't say you're stuck trying to reinstall Windows, I can only assume
the previous owner ran Setup. Perhaps even reformatted, first. So, we're
back to, "Do you have the installation CD?" And, yes, Don's advice is not
bad, but if you're dealing with someone else's abortion, I'd start
completely over, and if I'm going to do that, a security wipe makes sense to
do first, then reformat (or vice-versa.)

And the problem, IIRC, is usually a royally failed hardware install,
suggesting wrong drivers, improper preparation for installation, and who
knows what other issues, depending on make and model of the system. Like it
might be that it can only be reinstalled using the proprietary Restore CD
but your boss didn't have the right one and tried a different one...

What's the make/model of your laptop?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"schmenge" <schmenge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F7320C1C-4336-4948-998C-E4CD37CD5377@microsoft.com...
> Thank you, kind folks. The last 2 replies are more promising; I hate to
> re-install unless there are no options.
>
> "MEB" wrote:
>
>> Check autoexec.bat, config.sys, msdos.sys, and check for setuplog.txt.
>>
>> Files which might be indicative:
>> Bootlog.txt - create one by selecting it from the Menu [press F8
>> repeatedly
>> during boot]
>> Detlog.txt - detection log
>> Netlog.txt - network detection
>> Setuplog.txt - setup information created during installation
>> Detcrash.log - detection crash log - obvious
>>
>> Trying to start in SAFE Mode might let you diagnose issues which may be
>> affecting the normal startup. Rapidly tap F8 during bootup, choose it
>> from
>> the Menu.
>> MSInfo might provide you with the machine history that might provide
>> additional clues. Checking Device Manager while in Safe Mode, delete any
>> devices that are not still included in the system.
>> ASD [automatic skip driver agent] also might be of interest or use.
>>
>> You also might want to check for corruption of the registry by running
>> scanreg /fix at the DOS prompt..
>>
>> --
>> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>> --
>> _________
>>
>> "schmenge" <schmenge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:88945D34-0E13-4603-88B6-08A30194B0E3@microsoft.com...
>> | Every time I try to boot my computer, I get the message that it's
>> "preparing
>> | to run windows for the first time". I go through that process and let
>> it
>> | detect devices and install drivers, but when I restart I get the same
>> message
>> | again and must repeat the detection process. I remember from a while
>> back
>> | that setup makes some changes to some boot files to reflect that it is
>> first
>> | boot, but I can't recall which files. Can anyone help with this issue?
>> It's
>> | Windows 98 SE, and the computer was given to me by a previous owner; he
>> used
>> | it for business and removed all his files then gave me the box.
>> |
>> | Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>

MEB · May 14, 2008

Re: win98 se startup issues

setuplog.txt can perform two functions to diagnose - the *date* would
indicate whether it is recent or from some old installation and when - the
failed issues contained within would be the devices which setup had issues
with and tried to *avoid*... taken in conjunction with the other files there
MAY be other indications of why it is stuck..

The other files mentioned could also be useful, for the reason for their
creation.
*detlog.txt is created when new hardware is detected, OR present
configuration is changed.
*detcrashlog.txt MIGHT contain the failed hardware issue.
*bootlog.txt would show problem devices or other

Safe Mode, if accessible, could provide useful information, AND provide a
method to remove any problem issues.

What makes Gary think this is a laptop, "then gave me the box."

IF you have no disks for "the box" we would need to know the make and model
[proprietary or not], attached hardware, and any adapter cards. Also, what
is the system trying to constantly install?.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%23MK1xyWtIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| AFAIK, that message only appears during installation of Windows 98. Since
| you don't say you're stuck trying to reinstall Windows, I can only assume
| the previous owner ran Setup. Perhaps even reformatted, first. So, we're
| back to, "Do you have the installation CD?" And, yes, Don's advice is not
| bad, but if you're dealing with someone else's abortion, I'd start
| completely over, and if I'm going to do that, a security wipe makes sense
to
| do first, then reformat (or vice-versa.)
|
| And the problem, IIRC, is usually a royally failed hardware install,
| suggesting wrong drivers, improper preparation for installation, and who
| knows what other issues, depending on make and model of the system. Like
it
| might be that it can only be reinstalled using the proprietary Restore CD
| but your boss didn't have the right one and tried a different one...
|
| What's the make/model of your laptop?
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "schmenge" <schmenge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| news:F7320C1C-4336-4948-998C-E4CD37CD5377@microsoft.com...
| > Thank you, kind folks. The last 2 replies are more promising; I hate to
| > re-install unless there are no options.
| >
| > "MEB" wrote:
| >
| >> Check autoexec.bat, config.sys, msdos.sys, and check for setuplog.txt.
| >>
| >> Files which might be indicative:
| >> Bootlog.txt - create one by selecting it from the Menu [press F8
| >> repeatedly
| >> during boot]
| >> Detlog.txt - detection log
| >> Netlog.txt - network detection
| >> Setuplog.txt - setup information created during installation
| >> Detcrash.log - detection crash log - obvious
| >>
| >> Trying to start in SAFE Mode might let you diagnose issues which may
be
| >> affecting the normal startup. Rapidly tap F8 during bootup, choose it
| >> from
| >> the Menu.
| >> MSInfo might provide you with the machine history that might provide
| >> additional clues. Checking Device Manager while in Safe Mode, delete
any
| >> devices that are not still included in the system.
| >> ASD [automatic skip driver agent] also might be of interest or use.
| >>
| >> You also might want to check for corruption of the registry by running
| >> scanreg /fix at the DOS prompt..
| >>
| >> --
| >> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| >> --
| >> _________
| >>
| >> "schmenge" <schmenge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| >> news:88945D34-0E13-4603-88B6-08A30194B0E3@microsoft.com...
| >> | Every time I try to boot my computer, I get the message that it's
| >> "preparing
| >> | to run windows for the first time". I go through that process and
let
| >> it
| >> | detect devices and install drivers, but when I restart I get the same
| >> message
| >> | again and must repeat the detection process. I remember from a while
| >> back
| >> | that setup makes some changes to some boot files to reflect that it
is
| >> first
| >> | boot, but I can't recall which files. Can anyone help with this
issue?
| >> It's
| >> | Windows 98 SE, and the computer was given to me by a previous owner;
he
| >> used
| >> | it for business and removed all his files then gave me the box.
| >> |
| >> | Thanks in advance.
| >>
| >>
| >>
|

MEB · May 14, 2008

Gary S. Terhune · May 14, 2008

Re: win98 se startup issues

Laptop or box (can't juggle so good these days), it's an "unknown" mess,
with lots of possible problems beyond those covered by your suggestions. If
you want to focus on the problem as presented, fine, but OP *should* start
completely over, starting with investigating make/model for anything
pertinent. If it's a standard "whitebox" with a standard installation CD, it
should be repartitioned. All hardware should be identified and drivers
located. If the problem repeats, at least one is operating from a known
environment. At *that* time I would start looking into your log files, etc.,
but until then, it's a near probable waste of time.

Of course, my guess is that OP is Dan and the whole case is a fantasy
hatched from whole cloth. He's good at that and he's being particularly
squirrelly. Haven't seen him play this cat & mouse game more than just a
little bit in the past. By now he's usually posting long stories under his
real name.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OM2Ez$XtIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> setuplog.txt can perform two functions to diagnose - the *date* would
> indicate whether it is recent or from some old installation and when - the
> failed issues contained within would be the devices which setup had issues
> with and tried to *avoid*... taken in conjunction with the other files
> there
> MAY be other indications of why it is stuck..
>
> The other files mentioned could also be useful, for the reason for their
> creation.
> *detlog.txt is created when new hardware is detected, OR present
> configuration is changed.
> *detcrashlog.txt MIGHT contain the failed hardware issue.
> *bootlog.txt would show problem devices or other
>
> Safe Mode, if accessible, could provide useful information, AND provide a
> method to remove any problem issues.
>
> What makes Gary think this is a laptop, "then gave me the box."
>
> IF you have no disks for "the box" we would need to know the make and
> model
> [proprietary or not], attached hardware, and any adapter cards. Also, what
> is the system trying to constantly install?.
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:%23MK1xyWtIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | AFAIK, that message only appears during installation of Windows 98.
> Since
> | you don't say you're stuck trying to reinstall Windows, I can only
> assume
> | the previous owner ran Setup. Perhaps even reformatted, first. So, we're
> | back to, "Do you have the installation CD?" And, yes, Don's advice is
> not
> | bad, but if you're dealing with someone else's abortion, I'd start
> | completely over, and if I'm going to do that, a security wipe makes
> sense
> to
> | do first, then reformat (or vice-versa.)
> |
> | And the problem, IIRC, is usually a royally failed hardware install,
> | suggesting wrong drivers, improper preparation for installation, and who
> | knows what other issues, depending on make and model of the system. Like
> it
> | might be that it can only be reinstalled using the proprietary Restore
> CD
> | but your boss didn't have the right one and tried a different one...
> |
> | What's the make/model of your laptop?
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "schmenge" <schmenge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | news:F7320C1C-4336-4948-998C-E4CD37CD5377@microsoft.com...
> | > Thank you, kind folks. The last 2 replies are more promising; I hate
> to
> | > re-install unless there are no options.
> | >
> | > "MEB" wrote:
> | >
> | >> Check autoexec.bat, config.sys, msdos.sys, and check for
> setuplog.txt.
> | >>
> | >> Files which might be indicative:
> | >> Bootlog.txt - create one by selecting it from the Menu [press F8
> | >> repeatedly
> | >> during boot]
> | >> Detlog.txt - detection log
> | >> Netlog.txt - network detection
> | >> Setuplog.txt - setup information created during installation
> | >> Detcrash.log - detection crash log - obvious
> | >>
> | >> Trying to start in SAFE Mode might let you diagnose issues which may
> be
> | >> affecting the normal startup. Rapidly tap F8 during bootup, choose it
> | >> from
> | >> the Menu.
> | >> MSInfo might provide you with the machine history that might provide
> | >> additional clues. Checking Device Manager while in Safe Mode, delete
> any
> | >> devices that are not still included in the system.
> | >> ASD [automatic skip driver agent] also might be of interest or use.
> | >>
> | >> You also might want to check for corruption of the registry by
> running
> | >> scanreg /fix at the DOS prompt..
> | >>
> | >> --
> | >> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | >> --
> | >> _________
> | >>
> | >> "schmenge" <schmenge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | >> news:88945D34-0E13-4603-88B6-08A30194B0E3@microsoft.com...
> | >> | Every time I try to boot my computer, I get the message that it's
> | >> "preparing
> | >> | to run windows for the first time". I go through that process and
> let
> | >> it
> | >> | detect devices and install drivers, but when I restart I get the
> same
> | >> message
> | >> | again and must repeat the detection process. I remember from a
> while
> | >> back
> | >> | that setup makes some changes to some boot files to reflect that it
> is
> | >> first
> | >> | boot, but I can't recall which files. Can anyone help with this
> issue?
> | >> It's
> | >> | Windows 98 SE, and the computer was given to me by a previous
> owner;
> he
> | >> used
> | >> | it for business and removed all his files then gave me the box.
> | >> |
> | >> | Thanks in advance.
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>
> |
>
>

Dan · May 14, 2008

Re: win98 se startup issues

Gary, it is not me.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Psssst! I got another $20. I bet "schmenge" = "Dan".
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eBr789VtIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > Check autoexec.bat, config.sys, msdos.sys, and check for setuplog.txt.
> >
> > Files which might be indicative:
> > Bootlog.txt - create one by selecting it from the Menu [press F8
> > repeatedly
> > during boot]
> > Detlog.txt - detection log
> > Netlog.txt - network detection
> > Setuplog.txt - setup information created during installation
> > Detcrash.log - detection crash log - obvious
> >
> > Trying to start in SAFE Mode might let you diagnose issues which may be
> > affecting the normal startup. Rapidly tap F8 during bootup, choose it from
> > the Menu.
> > MSInfo might provide you with the machine history that might provide
> > additional clues. Checking Device Manager while in Safe Mode, delete any
> > devices that are not still included in the system.
> > ASD [automatic skip driver agent] also might be of interest or use.
> >
> > You also might want to check for corruption of the registry by running
> > scanreg /fix at the DOS prompt..
> >
> > --
> > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> > --
> > _________
> >
> > "schmenge" <schmenge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:88945D34-0E13-4603-88B6-08A30194B0E3@microsoft.com...
> > | Every time I try to boot my computer, I get the message that it's
> > "preparing
> > | to run windows for the first time". I go through that process and let
> > it
> > | detect devices and install drivers, but when I restart I get the same
> > message
> > | again and must repeat the detection process. I remember from a while
> > back
> > | that setup makes some changes to some boot files to reflect that it is
> > first
> > | boot, but I can't recall which files. Can anyone help with this issue?
> > It's
> > | Windows 98 SE, and the computer was given to me by a previous owner; he
> > used
> > | it for business and removed all his files then gave me the box.
> > |
> > | Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
>
>

Gary S. Terhune · May 14, 2008

Re: win98 se startup issues

There's one serious problem with that, Dan. How am I supposed to believe
you? And if you ARE telling the truth this time, do you see how your
shenanigans might cause problems for other people posting here with real
problems? Have you ever heard of the boy who cried wolf? This thread has all
the hallmarks of a post from you. It has too many logical inconsistencies.
It sounds too much like you. So, after all your lying and pretending, how am
I supposed to believe you this time?

Post here under your real name, let those of us who want to share in your
fantasies do so, and those of us who don't want to download and store those
reams of stories can block you. Your life is your own, and I actually like
you, but the only advice I have for you, on any topic, is to go back on your
meds, or do whatever it is you're supposed to be doing instead of hiding in
here. Maybe that world is not really any fun, but you know you only get
worse when you hang out here.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Gary, it is not me.
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> Psssst! I got another $20. I bet "schmenge" = "Dan".
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eBr789VtIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > Check autoexec.bat, config.sys, msdos.sys, and check for setuplog.txt.
>> >
>> > Files which might be indicative:
>> > Bootlog.txt - create one by selecting it from the Menu [press F8
>> > repeatedly
>> > during boot]
>> > Detlog.txt - detection log
>> > Netlog.txt - network detection
>> > Setuplog.txt - setup information created during installation
>> > Detcrash.log - detection crash log - obvious
>> >
>> > Trying to start in SAFE Mode might let you diagnose issues which may be
>> > affecting the normal startup. Rapidly tap F8 during bootup, choose it
>> > from
>> > the Menu.
>> > MSInfo might provide you with the machine history that might provide
>> > additional clues. Checking Device Manager while in Safe Mode, delete
>> > any
>> > devices that are not still included in the system.
>> > ASD [automatic skip driver agent] also might be of interest or use.
>> >
>> > You also might want to check for corruption of the registry by running
>> > scanreg /fix at the DOS prompt..
>> >
>> > --
>> > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>> > --
>> > _________
>> >
>> > "schmenge" <schmenge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:88945D34-0E13-4603-88B6-08A30194B0E3@microsoft.com...
>> > | Every time I try to boot my computer, I get the message that it's
>> > "preparing
>> > | to run windows for the first time". I go through that process and
>> > let
>> > it
>> > | detect devices and install drivers, but when I restart I get the same
>> > message
>> > | again and must repeat the detection process. I remember from a while
>> > back
>> > | that setup makes some changes to some boot files to reflect that it
>> > is
>> > first
>> > | boot, but I can't recall which files. Can anyone help with this
>> > issue?
>> > It's
>> > | Windows 98 SE, and the computer was given to me by a previous owner;
>> > he
>> > used
>> > | it for business and removed all his files then gave me the box.
>> > |
>> > | Thanks in advance.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>

Dan · May 14, 2008

Re: win98 se startup issues

<snip>

Thanks for the concern. I am doing well.

Gary S. Terhune · May 14, 2008

Re: win98 se startup issues

I don't believe you. I think you're sicker than usual. And since your only
contribution here is to be a lying sack of crap, I'm beginning to think that
that's all you are. A lying sack of crap. A worthless lying sack of crap.

Wouldn't you rather be a human being?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> <snip>
>
> Thanks for the concern. I am doing well.

dadiOH · May 14, 2008

Re: win98 se startup issues

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> I don't believe you. I think you're sicker than usual. And since your
> only contribution here is to be a lying sack of crap, I'm beginning
> to think that that's all you are. A lying sack of crap. A worthless
> lying sack of crap.
> Wouldn't you rather be a human being?

Is it safe to assume you don't much care for Dan/attilathehun1?

(Is there to be an attilathehun2?)

--

dadiOH
____________________________

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Gary S. Terhune · May 14, 2008

Re: win98 se startup issues

How'd you guess? Was I clear enough? The SOB is a psychic vampire. (Since he
wants to insist he's well, I have to take him at his word. He's well, he's
just a total a**hole.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> I don't believe you. I think you're sicker than usual. And since your
>> only contribution here is to be a lying sack of crap, I'm beginning
>> to think that that's all you are. A lying sack of crap. A worthless
>> lying sack of crap.
>> Wouldn't you rather be a human being?
>
> Is it safe to assume you don't much care for Dan/attilathehun1?

>
> (Is there to be an attilathehun2?)
>
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
> ____________________________
>
> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
>
>
>

Jeff · May 26, 2008

Re: win98 se startup issues

> 2. Prepare to reformat and reinstal from scratch from
> your Win98SE system CD. Good advice is at
> http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html

While I feel and know that good advice was given in your post, I find the page at rons site to be
way too complicated for a newbie, or a 1+ newbie or a 2+ newbie and etc.
I myself do good housekeeping, and make a point of understanding as much as I can,, and have also
been a 98se user for 6yrs, but there is no way I myself would go into the registry with one eye
blind and a patch on the other.
My point being, rons page gives no description whatsoever on how to do the things he suggests. At
this point, a newbie would have stuffed up his/her computer by following the advice on that page.
Sure, it is simple to ron, and simple to you,, buuuuuut.
Below is an extract from rons page, advice offered to ppl who havent got a clue what he is talking
about:::::

"Saving OE5 Newsgroup Data and Email. Copy the Outlook Express folder that contains the .dbx files.
Locate the Address Book folder and copy it. Finally, export these four registry keys:"

Can you see anywhere where it says how easy this is to do for a newbie?
(btw, to get to the .dbx files, many folders have to be drilled through,, something he didnt
mention.; yet another thing to confuse newbies)
Is there any mention at all on how to "export" registry keys? is there any offering of how to
even get to these keys?
Is there any warning at all on that page of messing in the registry?
Rons page is very dangerous to newbs.

Am merely pointing out what is a not so good link to offer to a newbie,,,,

jane · May 27, 2008

Re: win98 se startup issues

"Gary S. Terhune"
> How'd you guess? Was I clear enough? The SOB is a psychic vampire. (Since he
> wants to insist he's well, I have to take him at his word. He's well, he's
> just a total a**hole.)

silly boy, there are 3 ***'s, you should know that well.
poor ol' dan, cops it awl dont he. (hows ya brother dan? has he finished killing humans yet?)
on the topic of 'humans',, lots seem to be hyprocrites, dont they.
noted that you referred (or de-ferred) to 'human' in your post.... funny thing is, u is of da human
race, dick n' all.
but real funny thing is, i remember a post here where you made it clear that you dont believe in a
god, (which equates to you only answering to yourself), yet you married your bride via a preacher
and in the sight of god and also mumbled words to the preacher when he asked you certain
questions...... correct?? dont be shy gary, answer the question, your bride would be
proud to know that you confessed your love to her to an ambassador of christ,,, and to every one
who reads n/g's. (you may get lucky tonite.)
you also have been to friends weddings, all of which have a christian theme, you also have been to a
funeral, of which an ambassador of christ proceeded over........ and no doubt have been to many
and various christian functions.....
so, point is, how can you call Dan all sorts of names, including sub-human, when you yourself are a
hypocrite of extreme size.
would you care to make public and clear via this n/g and its readers, whether or whether not you
believe that god created you and this planet and all things known and those that cant be known to a
man?
do you, or do you not acknowledge a god, do your wedding vowels to your wife mean anything, or were
they just words of convenience?

is late, night gary.

Gary S. Terhune · May 27, 2008

Re: win98 se startup issues

What flavor lunatic are you? Friend of Dan's? Except Dan would never use
religion to put down someone else. Anyway, you have the facts all wrong,
every one of them. Go pray some more until you get it right. Should keep you
busy until it's time to meet your maker (as if!)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"jane" <pam@gst.com> wrote in message
news:erSbxj$vIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "Gary S. Terhune"
>> How'd you guess? Was I clear enough? The SOB is a psychic vampire. (Since
>> he
>> wants to insist he's well, I have to take him at his word. He's well,
>> he's
>> just a total a**hole.)
>
> silly boy, there are 3 ***'s, you should know that well.
> poor ol' dan, cops it awl dont he. (hows ya brother dan? has he finished
> killing humans yet?)
> on the topic of 'humans',, lots seem to be hyprocrites, dont they.
> noted that you referred (or de-ferred) to 'human' in your post.... funny
> thing is, u is of da human
> race, dick n' all.
> but real funny thing is, i remember a post here where you made it clear
> that you dont believe in a
> god, (which equates to you only answering to yourself), yet you married
> your bride via a preacher
> and in the sight of god and also mumbled words to the preacher when he
> asked you certain
> questions...... correct?? dont be shy gary, answer the
> question, your bride would be
> proud to know that you confessed your love to her to an ambassador of
> christ,,, and to every one
> who reads n/g's. (you may get lucky tonite.)
> you also have been to friends weddings, all of which have a christian
> theme, you also have been to a
> funeral, of which an ambassador of christ proceeded over........ and
> no doubt have been to many
> and various christian functions.....
> so, point is, how can you call Dan all sorts of names, including
> sub-human, when you yourself are a
> hypocrite of extreme size.
> would you care to make public and clear via this n/g and its readers,
> whether or whether not you
> believe that god created you and this planet and all things known and
> those that cant be known to a
> man?
> do you, or do you not acknowledge a god, do your wedding vowels to your
> wife mean anything, or were
> they just words of convenience?
>
> is late, night gary.
>
>

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