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Re: XP *and* Vista co-exist in the market?



"Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message

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> Canuck57 wrote:

>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message 

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>>> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message 

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>>>> Kerry Brown wrote:

>>>>> ":: Alias ::" <iamalias@TAKEOUTgmail.com> wrote in message 

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>>>>>> Kerry Brown wrote:

>>>>>>>> Yes you did. You knew that Vista would require high end hardware 

>>>>>>>> long before it was released.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I don't need to use *anything* to discredit Vista. It does a very 

>>>>>>>> good job all by itself and doesn't need my help.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I build systems for $600.00 (not including a monitor, but with Vista 

>>>>>>> Home Premium) that run Vista very well. That's hardly what I'd call 

>>>>>>> high end.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>> A price does not tell us anything except that you buy cheap hardware 

>>>>>> to build computers. Six hundred US dollars wouldn't even cover the 

>>>>>> cost of buying retail Ultimate in Spain.

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> I'm actually very particular about the hardware I use. You are living 

>>>>> in the past. You mentioned earlier in the thread that 2GB of RAM is 

>>>>> high end. I don't know about Spain but here in Canada 2GB of name 

>>>>> brand DDR2 RAM is $60.00. Here's a typical configuration that will run 

>>>>> Vista very well and is easily under $500.00 for the hardware which is 

>>>>> what I consider to be decent quality.

>>>>>

>>>>> Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L motherboard $85.00

>>>>> Intel E2200 CPU $95.00

>>>>> 2x1GB Kingston DDR2 800 MHz $60.00

>>>>> Seagate 250GB SATA-II hard drive $65.00

>>>>> LG GSA H55 DVDRW $40.00

>>>>> Gigabyte X1BPD case with 400 watt PSU $85.00

>>>>> Microsoft Value Pack keyboard and mouse $30.00

>>>> No video or audio card? Are these Canadian or US dollars?

>>>>

>>>>> Total cost of hardware $460.00. This is retail prices, all recognised 

>>>>> brand names. If you're not particular about where you shop you could 

>>>>> probably get it even cheaper. It's hardly high end. It will run any 

>>>>> edition of Vista 32 or 64 bit with no problems. The system will be 

>>>>> stable, all drivers are easily available. OEM Vista Home Premium is 

>>>>> $125.00, Ultimate $205.00. A decent 19" wide screen LCD would be 

>>>>> another $200.00. The complete system with Vista Ultimate is $865.00. 

>>>>> Maybe you should move to Canada. It sounds like your decision to live 

>>>>> in Spain has impacted your computing experience. In any case cost is 

>>>>> relative to where you live. The system specs would not be considered 

>>>>> high end anywhere yet Vista runs with no problems on it.

>>>>>

>>>> Unfortunately, in Spain, you can't buy a copy of a generic OEM Vista 

>>>> (or XP for that matter), only retail, unless you buy a complete 

>>>> computer. If I wanted to buy another copy of Vista or XP, I would get a 

>>>> friend to buy it in the States and send it to me.

>>>>

>>>> That said, I didn't move to Spain for computer prices. I hate the cold 

>>>> and where I live, there's sunshine at least 300 days a year and it 

>>>> never goes under 5ºC so Canada is completely out of the question :-)

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> The more I see your answers to other people, the less I think that you 

>>> know about computers..

>>

>> Listen, he is in Spain.  EU.  They have to pay for the Microsoft 

>> anti-trust conviction that the US didn't enforce.  Predatory pricing and 

>> the like.

>>

>> Nice adoption ground for Linux I bet.  I wonder if I should take a 

>> Spanish course, always liked the people.

>

> In the last year, I have seen Ubuntu discussed in magazines, newspapers 

> and TV. I asked the computer chains which OS was requested the most. XP 

> was first, followed by Ubuntu and Vista.

>

> If you're serious about Spain, send me an email.

>

> Alias


I would, but need to convince my wife.  Technically, I could retire now but

a little early yet to do that.  Will work on this though....


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