Re: XP *and* Vista co-exist in the market?
DarkSentinel wrote:
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> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
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>> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@nukethisgmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>>>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:2E5A8BF6-8DA4-4129-B7D7-A88CF082CEB9@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> ":: Alias ::" <iamalias@TAKEOUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:ulQE10CuIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Kerry Brown wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes you did. You knew that Vista would require high end
>>>>>>>>>> hardware long before it was released.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't need to use *anything* to discredit Vista. It does a
>>>>>>>>>> very good job all by itself and doesn't need my help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I build systems for $600.00 (not including a monitor, but with
>>>>>>>>> Vista Home Premium) that run Vista very well. That's hardly
>>>>>>>>> what I'd call high end.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A price does not tell us anything except that you buy cheap
>>>>>>>> hardware to build computers. Six hundred US dollars wouldn't
>>>>>>>> even cover the cost of buying retail Ultimate in Spain.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm actually very particular about the hardware I use. You are
>>>>>>> living in the past. You mentioned earlier in the thread that 2GB
>>>>>>> of RAM is high end. I don't know about Spain but here in Canada
>>>>>>> 2GB of name brand DDR2 RAM is $60.00. Here's a typical
>>>>>>> configuration that will run Vista very well and is easily under
>>>>>>> $500.00 for the hardware which is what I consider to be decent
>>>>>>> quality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L motherboard $85.00
>>>>>>> Intel E2200 CPU $95.00
>>>>>>> 2x1GB Kingston DDR2 800 MHz $60.00
>>>>>>> Seagate 250GB SATA-II hard drive $65.00
>>>>>>> LG GSA H55 DVDRW $40.00
>>>>>>> Gigabyte X1BPD case with 400 watt PSU $85.00
>>>>>>> Microsoft Value Pack keyboard and mouse $30.00
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Total cost of hardware $460.00. This is retail prices, all
>>>>>>> recognised brand names. If you're not particular about where you
>>>>>>> shop you could probably get it even cheaper. It's hardly high
>>>>>>> end. It will run any edition of Vista 32 or 64 bit with no
>>>>>>> problems. The system will be stable, all drivers are easily
>>>>>>> available. OEM Vista Home Premium is $125.00, Ultimate $205.00. A
>>>>>>> decent 19" wide screen LCD would be another $200.00. The complete
>>>>>>> system with Vista Ultimate is $865.00. Maybe you should move to
>>>>>>> Canada. It sounds like your decision to live in Spain has
>>>>>>> impacted your computing experience. In any case cost is relative
>>>>>>> to where you live. The system specs would not be considered high
>>>>>>> end anywhere yet Vista runs with no problems on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Kerry Brown
>>>>>>> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration
>>>>>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kerry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prices for everything are higher in Europe than in North America,
>>>>>> and taxation plays its part.
>>>>>
>>>>> So does MS' iron fist.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't let Alias fool you into believing that Spain is a peasant
>>>>>> country, because it is anything but peasant.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have *never* said that. Frank has but I haven't. I live here and
>>>>> know. Spain is growing by leaps and bounds.
>>>>>
>>>>>> For sure some of the old ways of life still exist, but Spain is as
>>>>>> technologically advanced as most countries, and has been the only
>>>>>> European country growing over the last few years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you think you saying something I don't know?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They may not have the cheap computer fairs as in the UK, but one
>>>>>> can get computers, parts and software at reasonable prices just as
>>>>>> one can in other countries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Parts, yes. MS software, no.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You once claimed that Vista was cheaper in some retail outlets, that
>>>> one didn't have to pay full recommended price everywhere..
>>>
>>> No, I didn't. I said that if you buy it wholesale, it's cheaper.
>>> Nonetheless, it's still cheaper in the US to buy a generic OEM than a
>>> generic OEM here. I have a license to buy wholesale, which means I
>>> can buy generic OEMs. Most people do not.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> So software isn't so bad, and cheap parts are readily available. And
>>>> you problem is?
>>>
>>> My problem isn't with Spain but Microsoft for their discriminating
>>> and unfair pricing tactics.
>>>
>>> Alias
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>> Its as well you don't drive, otherwise you would have a problem with
>> Ford's EU pricing compared to US too..
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> He prefers to stick with his little burro Pepe....lol
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Once again an MS fanboy spews an unfounded insulting lie. Ho hum, how
predictable can you get?
Alias