Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll
Well as examples:
Take the old Word97 from Office or Home Essentials [or some other
installation]. You can attempt to run the base install in an updated system,
but to install all the updates {SR1, SR2, some of the addins, and the final
WORD8 to 9} the updaters balk if IE6 is installed. ALWIO
Another is the old WinFax Pro 7, it will not install [easily anyway] nor
will its updates, if the system gets much beyond the base SE {FE updated may
cause issues} install.
So, yeah, these are majorly outdated programs, but if the client [or me]
doesn't want to update, whacha gonna do...
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MEB
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"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
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| OK, I see the point, and yes, I do recall hearing of apps installers that
| did that and I've probably even dealt with a lot of their problems
(vaguely
| recall, memory issues.) Presented with the need to install such apps, the
| extra steps would seem worth it. But I would think you'd need a massive
| catalog, mental or otherwise, to remember between which versions of IE or
| before or after which Updates you want to install which apps.
|
| What do you do when you already have a nice, well adjusted system and
decide
| to install such an app? Surely there are well-developed solutions that
don't
| involve regressing entire versions of IE. Are they so much more difficult
to
| deploy after IE6 has been installed that they actually make the trade-off
of
| installing entire versions of IE a good deal?
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
|
www.grystmill.com
|
| "MEB" <meb@not
here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:euYYgVduIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > Oh no, you missed the point. Some applications or their updates were
| > designed around a limited system update status, example: certain DLL
| > versions were needed and checked for during the install or were
| > written/modified/added specifically during the install.
| >
| > You find this in some programs written during the early 9X era, such as
| > transitional 95 to 98 programs or 98 to 98SE [or even some written
before
| > IE
| > 6 changes], where even the minimally updated files may cause issue. So
| > installing them early in the process [as the system would have existed
| > when
| > they were created], allows their installation or their updates; which
| > after
| > installation and application upgrade, generally causes no further
| > problems.
| > The installer is no longer attempting to determine SYSTEM STATUS and
what
| > needs installed, so the system updates done afterwards [hopefully
| > backwards
| > compatible with earlier versions] cause no errors in the programs.
| >
| > IF a program needs an older version of some DLL and the updated version
is
| > NOT fully backwards compatible or even recognized by the installer,, it
is
| > much easier to then go to SYSBKUP or Options\CABS\ or VCM [depending
upon
| > whether they were involved] OR the update INF file to determine the
exact
| > issue involved [or run something like Process Explorer, FileMon or
RegMon,
| > or the like, to locate/diagnose], so you can place the older required
DLL
| > {whatever} into the problem application's folder or temporarily
re-install
| > [degrade] the DLL {or whatever} to the needed version..EXAMPLE: You can
| > find
| > indications of this when a program REQUIRES IE6SP1 be installed.
| >
| > This is the way I have found produces THE MOST stable installation. If
you
| > think about it, it makes sense.
| >
| > The sub-version change referred to the A to B change.
| >
| > --
| > MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > news:ev9DDTYuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | Uh. Never seen that myself. What is a "subversion change"? Anyway, I
| > | understand your logic, and I'm guessing that you have specific cases
in
| > | mind. But if Windows has to be left outdated because it can't get
along
| > with
| > | the updated state of the system, if it has to be left in IE 5.x land,
| > then
| > | it's a machine I would respectfully suggest stay offline.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > |
www.grystmill.com
| > |
| > | "MEB" <meb@not
here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:ulzLAGVuIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | > Agreed, the SecCD does make it considerable easier.
| > | > It seems to start with IE6 as well, but of course, it also controls
| > the
| > | > system and the exact order of installations and shut downs.
| > | >
| > | > Second startup [order]:
| > | > 238453USA8.EXE
| > | > 245729us8.exe
| > | > 256015usa8.exe
| > | > 259728usa8.exe
| > | > 273727usa8.exe
| > | > 314147usa8.exe
| > | > 329048usa8.exe
| > | > 249973usa8.exe
| > | > 274548usa8.exe
| > | > 323172usa8.exe
| > | > 329115usa8.exe
| > | > 811630usa8.exe
| > | > 823559usa8.exe
| > | > 273991USA8.EXE
| > | > 314941USA8.exe
| > | > 323255USA8.exe
| > | > telnetup.exe
| > | > q240308.exe
| > | > q313829.exe
| > | > q330994.exe
| > | > q828750.exe
| > | > js56men.exe
| > | > KB819639.exe
| > | > dx9_98.exe
| > | > mdac_typ.exe
| > | >
| > | > Then finishes, including the subversion change.
| > | >
| > | > However, I also [when using any of the OSs or update routines]
attempt
| > to
| > | > install as many of the oldest programs, applications, and games [yes
I
| > | > still
| > | > play some old ones occasionally] prior to running the SecCD or any
| > | > updating,
| > | > as I have had difficulties not doing so, due to file changes [either
| > from
| > | > the installed or due to SecCD] such as wrong mdac type, some DLL, or
| > | > otherwise [then unable to update the program].
| > | >
| > | > Anyway, IE5.1 is used as an intermediate installation and then
update
| > | > process, when an application balks at its updates [needs a newer
| > version
| > | > of
| > | > something], yet also refuses to update at all when IE6 is installed
| > first.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > --
| > | > _________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | > news:eroN6zSuIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | > | OK, my memory sucks. And yesterday was just FULL of distractions
so
| > I'm
| > | > | surprised I didn't screw up worse.
| > | > |
| > | > | Though of course I always recommend IE6SP1. I see where you
suggest
| > some
| > | > | more intricate form of updating, but since I've yet to run into
any
| > | > | problems, I'll stick with what I got. Besides, most of the time, I
| > run
| > | > the
| > | > | SecUp Feb 2004 CD before anything else, and that includes IE6SP1.
| > | > |
| > | > | --
| > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > |
www.grystmill.com
| > | > |
| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not
here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | news:e0xD0GJuIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > Last test I did of IE versions produced minimum of 5.02314.1003.
| > Found
| > | > as
| > | > | > IE5.1 on several CDROMs from that era.
| > | > | > Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 5.01 and Internet Tools
| > | > | > November 1999
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Though that was a few months ago, when re-testing windowsupdate
| > with
| > | > fresh
| > | > | > installs of Win98[FE/Gold/SE].
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > _________
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:Okp0vbHuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > | That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a while
| > back.
| > | > Don't
| > | > | > | recall the answer, though.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | --
| > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > | > |
www.grystmill.com
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not
here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > | > Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser
| > | > version...
| > | > | > need
| > | > | > | > at least IE5.1
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP
files/mods
| > and
| > | > | > | > unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have
| > | > differing
| > | > | > | > errors
| > | > | > | > depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > _________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > | > | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing
| > Windows
| > | > go
| > | > | > | > directly
| > | > | > | > | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart,
| > then
| > | > go
| > | > | > back
| > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > WU
| > | > | > | > | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this
| > | > BEFORE
| > | > | > you
| > | > | > | > | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never
| > have
| > | > to
| > | > | > go
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail
and
| > I
| > | > think
| > | > | > you
| > | > | > | > | installed something that screwed up your ability to get to
| > WU.
| > | > What
| > | > | > do
| > | > | > | > you
| > | > | > | > | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works
| > just
| > | > fine,
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > my
| > | > | > | > | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is
that
| > | > | > something
| > | > | > | > like
| > | > | > | > | that is what screwed up WU for you.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to
| > | > Windows
| > | > | > XP,
| > | > | > | > not
| > | > | > | > | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been
any
| > | > part
| > | > of
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > | > | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is
a
| > POS.
| > | > And
| > | > | > | > I'll
| > | > | > | > | bet there's no way to uninstall it.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and
I'll
| > | > explain
| > | > | > how
| > | > | > | > you
| > | > | > | > | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98,
| > 98SE
| > | > and
| > | > | > ME.
| > | > | > | > No,
| > | > | > | > | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on
CD.
| > $3
| > | > | > covers
| > | > | > | > costs.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | --
| > | > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > | > | > |
www.grystmill.com
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
| > | > message
| > | > | > | > | news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > | > | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE.
Some
| > | > problems
| > | > | > so
| > | > | > | > did
| > | > | > | > | > a
| > | > | > | > | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when
| > found
| > | > out
| > | > I
| > | > | > | > could
| > | > | > | > | > no
| > | > | > | > | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.
| > | > | > | > | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has
| > | > updates
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | > tweaks.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error
| > loading
| > | > | > | > TcpMib.dll".
| > | > | > | > | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to
| > work
| > | > ok,
| > | > | > but
| > | > | > I
| > | > | > | > am
| > | > | > | > | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn
the
| > | > computer
| > | > | > on.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Searched MSKb for message.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a
| > | > standard
| > | > | > | > TCP/IP
| > | > | > | > | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000
| > | > | > | > | > View products that this article applies to.
| > | > | > | > | > Article ID : 261302
| > | > | > | > | > Last Review : October 30, 2006
| > | > | > | > | > Revision : 5.1
| > | > | > | > | > This article was previously published under Q261302
| > | > | > | > | > SYMPTOMS
| > | > | > | > | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard
| > in
| > | > | > Microsoft
| > | > | > | > | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive
the
| > | > | > following
| > | > | > | > error
| > | > | > | > | > message:
| > | > | > | > | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.
| > | > | > | > | > When you click OK, you receive the following additional
| > error
| > | > | > message:
| > | > | > | > | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be
| > | > completed.
| > | > | > | > | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port
| > Wizard
| > | > | > quits,
| > | > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | > no
| > | > | > | > | > port is added.
| > | > | > | > | > Back to the top
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > CAUSE
| > | > | > | > | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the
| > | > | > Wsnmp32.dll,
| > | > | > | > | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll
file
| > has
| > | > been
| > | > | > | > copied
| > | > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot% folder.
| > | > | > | > | > Back to the top
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION
| > | > | > | > | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files
in
| > the
| > | > | > | > %SystemRoot%
| > | > | > | > | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the
| > | > | > Microsoft-supplied
| > | > | > | > file
| > | > | > | > | > in
| > | > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.
| > | > | > | > | > Back to the top
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > STATUS
| > | > | > | > | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the
| > | > Microsoft
| > | > | > | > products
| > | > | > | > | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.
| > | > | > | > | > Back to the top
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > MORE INFORMATION
| > | > | > | > | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the
| > root
| > | > system
| > | > | > | > folder
| > | > | > | > | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks
| > the
| > | > | > System32
| > | > | > | > | > folder.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3),
| > wsmp32.dll,
| > | > and
| > | > | > | > | > mgmtapi.dll;
| > | > | > | > | > renamed them with.old sufix.
| > | > | > | > | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and
HPTcpMON.d;did
| > not
| > | > | > touch
| > | > | > | > these
| > | > | > | > | > as
| > | > | > | > | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll"
| > message.
| > | > | > | > | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?
| > | > | > | > | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system
| > restore
| > | > | > disks
| > | > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | > could not find it.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre
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