Re: Cannot shut down Windows 98
Actually Gary, I do the fan oiling as part of yearly or sooner maintenance
on the systems which I service or serviced. At that time I also replace the
heatsink compounds and other that also may decay. Its also done on *any* box
which I work on.
Looking under the label, one generally finds what looks like a washer
around the fan stub/spindle. Its actually a split fiber ring which can be
*carefully* spread [making sure it doesn't fly off to oblivion its so
small], then light 10 weight oil [sewing machine or other] is applied to the
oilite bushes and the fan blades cleaned then re-assembled. While the heat
sink [talking CPU or other removable] is removed, I clean that with alcohol
or other light solvent, re-assembly everything using something like Arctic
Silver to replace the heat sink compound, and its good for another year [or
less in a hostile environment like smoking or industrial]..
While the case is open, I use a sweeper hosed extension [not overly close
to the area] and a mascara brush to clean the dust from the board, air
supply openings, power supply, and other. I also wiggle the installed
adapter cards and memory modules carefully to re-set them [corrosion loss
prevention] and check everything after done, like the cabling, power
connections, etc...
Its called preventive maintenance [grin]..
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"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
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| Have you ever actually done such a thing? I just went and looked at my
| dozens of dead fans and my stock of replacement fans, and only in the
| highest end fans (Thermaltake) did I even find anywhere to put any oil
(yes,
| I lifted the labels.)
|
| But here was my initial logic:
| Just can't see even getting an oil dispenser anywhere near the insides of
a
| computer case. The chances of disaster are just too great. So the next
thing
| would be to remove the fan first... Your last sentence was the correct
one.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
|
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|
| "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
| news:uTTZPlQvIHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > Although I certainly wouldn't disagree with your suggestion of changing
| > the fan which is THE ONLY long term solution, it's the shorter term
(like
| > now!) I was concerned about. A careful application - and you don't have
to
| > be an instrument mechanic - of one drop of oil on each bearing (not the
| > fan blades!) would be far safer than letting the thing scream itself to
| > death - and take the cpu with it. Or better still, turn the machine off
| > until a replacement fan can be obtained (or fitted by a technician).
| >
| > Mart
| >
| >
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > news:uP1drIPvIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| >> You're saying to oil the fan? No, the thing to do is to replace it.
Don't
| >> want no stinkin' oil spraying around inside a computer case. Besides,
it
| >> would immediately start collecting dust like mad. Not good for a
cooling
| >> system.
| >>
| >> In any case, if it's making a ton of noise now, it's shot, and oil
would
| >> only help for a few minutes.
| >>
| >> --
| >> Gary S. Terhune
| >> MS-MVP Shell/User
| >>
www.grystmill.com
| >>
| >> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
| >> news:OdJmJAPvIHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| >>> Yes Gary and Robert, I did wonder about the speaker - but on shutdown?
| >>> Usually at POST.
| >>>
| >>> However,
| >>>
| >>>> I think the noise is coming from the pentium 3 heatsink Fan.
| >>>
| >>> Needs very urgent attention! In spite of rising oil costs ($135 a
| >>> barrel?) one drop would be a lot cheaper than a new cpu <g>
| >>>
| >>> Mart
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockdvds@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
| >>>
news:15d889a2-5e00-4fd5-ae3e-f50742524486@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
| >>> On 23 May, 15:08, "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote:
| >>>> > However, when the power does stop, I still hear
| >>>> > a squeek like a gerbil's in pain or something.
| >>>>
| >>>> A mechanical 'squeak' - noisy (wearing) fan bearing, as it slows and
| >>>> stops
| >>>> perhaps? Might only need a drop of light machine oil.
| >>>>
| >>>> You'll have to open the case to determine exactly from where the
noise
| >>>> is
| >>>> coming then decide a course of action.
| >>>>
| >>>> Mart
| >>>>
| >>>> "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
| >>>>
messagenews:7457c9c7-9296-414d-9939-dde23412336a@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com
....
| >>>> On 23 May, 13:15, "RJK" <nos...@hotmail.com> wrote:
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>> >
http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm
| >>>>
| >>>> > regards, Richard
| >>>>
| >>>> > "rpgs rock dvds" <rpgsrockd...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
| >>>> >
messagenews:9e8e763e-ddc8-471a-99c6-d7fd39395264@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.co
m...
| >>>>
| >>>> > >I have installed Windows 98SE on a Supermicro P6SBU motherboard.
| >>>> > >When
| >>>> > > I go to shut down windows, the screen displays the usual "It's
now
| >>>> > > safe to turn off your computer" message (I can't remember the
exact
| >>>> > > wording), but the PC's power remains on. If I then turn off the
PSU
| >>>> > > power button, the PC momentarily makes a squeeking sound as if I
| >>>> > > have
| >>>> > > stepped on a small rodent, then all is quiet and the PC finally
| >>>> > > stops.
| >>>>
| >>>> > > Ideally, I would like the power to the PC stopped when I shut
down
| >>>> > > windows using the usual Start button / Shut down method.
| >>>>
| >>>> > > Any thoughts please? Thank you, best regards, Robert.- Hide
quoted
| >>>> > > text -
| >>>>
| >>>> > - Show quoted text -
| >>>>
| >>>> Thank you very much for that link. I have solved the problem. Inside
| >>>> BIOS, I set APM to enabled. Now when I shut down Windows, the power
| >>>> stops too. However, when the power does stop, I still hear a squeek
| >>>> like a gerbil's in pain or something.- Hide quoted text -
| >>>>
| >>>> - Show quoted text -
| >>>
| >>> I think the noise is coming from the pentium 3 heatsink Fan. It's
| >>> quite a loud and sudden noise. I will at some stage change it as it's
| >>> too loud when in normal operation anyway.
| >>>
| >>>>>Or a speaker squeek?
| >>>
| >>> There is no speaker attached to this mobo or case ATM.
| >>>
| >>
| >
| >
|
) You gave me an excellent idea -- I studied the