2003 or 2008 server

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Hi all

Now I have an option to choose either 2 X 2k3 or 2 X 2k8, one for DC and one
for Exchange 07. I have never got hands on 2k8 and I am willing to learn too.
With 2k3 I am comfortable with this.
Currently we have 1x 2k3 AD DC.

So please tell me what would you pick? and why?

One more question: at the moment we have Lock out GPO in place and set in
Domain and apply to every users including Administrator (me), we can't
exclude the administrator in Wins 2k3 server, but I have been told that it
can be done in Wins 2k8. Can we still exclude the adminstrator from Lockout
GPO in mix environment 2k3 and 2k8?

Many thanks in advance
 
RE: 2003 or 2008 server

Don't forget that 2k8 does allow downgrade rights. You could purchase 2k8
and use 2k3 instead until you're ready (trained, tested, etc) for 2k8.

See these two links:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/downgrade-rights.aspx

and

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/licensing-faq.aspx (look
under the "Other" section, questions 3 & 4)


"vdz" wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Now I have an option to choose either 2 X 2k3 or 2 X 2k8, one for DC and one
> for Exchange 07. I have never got hands on 2k8 and I am willing to learn too.
> With 2k3 I am comfortable with this.
> Currently we have 1x 2k3 AD DC.
>
> So please tell me what would you pick? and why?
>
> One more question: at the moment we have Lock out GPO in place and set in
> Domain and apply to every users including Administrator (me), we can't
> exclude the administrator in Wins 2k3 server, but I have been told that it
> can be done in Wins 2k8. Can we still exclude the adminstrator from Lockout
> GPO in mix environment 2k3 and 2k8?
>
> Many thanks in advance
 
Re: 2003 or 2008 server

Hello vdz,

I would install 2008, because it is new and has the longest available support
in the moment. It is also stable and you have lot of new features included,
that you do not have with 2003, except you buy additional license for R2
feature pack, FSRM is one example.
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windo...0e0d96cd-935b-48d0-b5ba-c70a979fadbc1033.mspx


For learning you can install additional 2008 DC and check out with a test
machine and special OU's only for testing 2008 options on it. Because of
coexistence of 2003 DC's and 2008 DC's some options are not available, becasue
of the Forest functional level and Domain functional level.
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windo...98f1-465f-9156-c600f723b31f1033.mspx?mfr=true


To use Fine grained password policy, what you are talking about, you need
a FFL/DFL as 2008 server, so no 2003 DC's are allowed.
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windo...5c9e-44d7-acc1-4f0bade6cd751033.mspx?mfr=true

And as Thomas mentioned, you can buy 2008 server and downgrade/obtain the
same version of 2003 for use until you are ready for 2008 administration.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Hi all
>
> Now I have an option to choose either 2 X 2k3 or 2 X 2k8, one for DC
> and one for Exchange 07. I have never got hands on 2k8 and I am
> willing to learn too. With 2k3 I am comfortable with this. Currently
> we have 1x 2k3 AD DC.
>
> So please tell me what would you pick? and why?
>
> One more question: at the moment we have Lock out GPO in place and set
> in Domain and apply to every users including Administrator (me), we
> can't exclude the administrator in Wins 2k3 server, but I have been
> told that it can be done in Wins 2k8. Can we still exclude the
> adminstrator from Lockout GPO in mix environment 2k3 and 2k8?
>
> Many thanks in advance
>
 
Re: 2003 or 2008 server

Thank you all for your help.
However I am worried about the CALs, currently we have 50 CALs, should I
have to purchase another set of 50 CALs for Wins server 2008.

Thanks a lot again

"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> Hello vdz,
>
> I would install 2008, because it is new and has the longest available support
> in the moment. It is also stable and you have lot of new features included,
> that you do not have with 2003, except you buy additional license for R2
> feature pack, FSRM is one example.
> http://technet2.microsoft.com/windo...0e0d96cd-935b-48d0-b5ba-c70a979fadbc1033.mspx
>
>
> For learning you can install additional 2008 DC and check out with a test
> machine and special OU's only for testing 2008 options on it. Because of
> coexistence of 2003 DC's and 2008 DC's some options are not available, becasue
> of the Forest functional level and Domain functional level.
> http://technet2.microsoft.com/windo...98f1-465f-9156-c600f723b31f1033.mspx?mfr=true
>
>
> To use Fine grained password policy, what you are talking about, you need
> a FFL/DFL as 2008 server, so no 2003 DC's are allowed.
> http://technet2.microsoft.com/windo...5c9e-44d7-acc1-4f0bade6cd751033.mspx?mfr=true
>
> And as Thomas mentioned, you can buy 2008 server and downgrade/obtain the
> same version of 2003 for use until you are ready for 2008 administration.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > Now I have an option to choose either 2 X 2k3 or 2 X 2k8, one for DC
> > and one for Exchange 07. I have never got hands on 2k8 and I am
> > willing to learn too. With 2k3 I am comfortable with this. Currently
> > we have 1x 2k3 AD DC.
> >
> > So please tell me what would you pick? and why?
> >
> > One more question: at the moment we have Lock out GPO in place and set
> > in Domain and apply to every users including Administrator (me), we
> > can't exclude the administrator in Wins 2k3 server, but I have been
> > told that it can be done in Wins 2k8. Can we still exclude the
> > adminstrator from Lockout GPO in mix environment 2k3 and 2k8?
> >
> > Many thanks in advance
> >
>
>
>
 
Re: 2003 or 2008 server

Howdie!

vdz schrieb:
> Thank you all for your help.
> However I am worried about the CALs, currently we have 50 CALs, should I
> have to purchase another set of 50 CALs for Wins server 2008.

Yes. Server 2008 requires new CALs. But your reseller should come up
with a upgrade plan that fits your needs.

cheers,

Florian
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