Re: IE Running well so far
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
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| Only thing I can glean from that is that I see why the switch listed in
that
| exchange I linked to didn't work: It's /n:v, not /nv.
|
| I dunno, I'm tired of it. There have been too many different versions of
| IE/OE installed on the machine, starting with AOHell ten years ago and
| ending with whatever her cable ISP installed. In any case, my test machine
| is a mess from playing with that Auto-Patcher, and yet it would seem that
| Windows Updates is not offering the some updates that it should be. 837009
| is the latest one for OE, and even during all the testing I did when
putting
| together the Updates packages, I never saw any of these later versions,
even
| though they're supposed to be offered by WU.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
|
www.grystmill.com
Agreed and what I also noted.
WU does not offer all the updates that would or should be installed. The
files still offered are the ones which apparently caused no issues or which
had been repaired/updated or replaced...
That particular update [IIRC] was part of the December 2005 updates which
broke hundreds of thousands of 98 computers... could be wrong and I'm not
really interested at the moment.
I'm sure she appreciated all your help. Judging by what you say has
occurred, that computer would be a good candidate for complete re-install,
though I don't believe she may be up to it. I didn't look at that link, but
yeah, it surely wouldn't work using /nv.
Yeah, Autopatcher can cause lots of issues at times, and does make it
nearly impossible to use it as any kind of reference.
--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
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|
| "MEB" <meb@not
here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:uQnf5zCwIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > 837009 is listed on this system. The only 82**** in Add/Remove I
presently
| > have is 823559. Its not shown in IE or iuhist either. Would this be
| > related
| > to the SecCD usage perhaps?
| >
| > I agree, if that was, in fact, the supposed update/supercede, then that
is
| > what should be offered. There were installation issues associated with
it,
| > so MAYBE Microsoft determined it would just delete/not offer it or SecCD
| > somehow over-rides installation. It did, however, appear in the old
| > installations [not SecCD updated] documented in 2006.
| >
| > Affected Software:
| > . Microsoft Windows NT® Workstation 4.0 Service Pack 6a
| > . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Service Pack 6a
| > . Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 Terminal Server Edition Service Pack 6
| > . Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 2, Microsoft Windows 2000 Service
| > Pack
| > 3, Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
| > . Microsoft Windows XP and Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 1
| > . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Service Pack 1
| > . Microsoft Windows XP 64-Bit Edition Version 2003
| > . Microsoft Windows ServerT 2003
| > . Microsoft Windows Server 2003 64-Bit Edition
| > . Microsoft Windows 98, Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition (SE), and
| > Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition (Me) - Review the FAQ section of
this
| > bulletin for details about these operating systems.
| >
| > INFORMATION/DATA saved for 823353 shows [02/07 and 02/16 of 2006]:
| >
| >> Answering to PA Bear, now with 887797 and 897715 missing, 823353 is the
| > only
| >> reported update by Windows update...
| >>
| >> msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll are now 6.00.2800.1478 while wab32.dll is
| >> 6.00.2800.1106.
| >
| > Well, msoe.dll and inetcomm.dll have the version numbers of the files
| > contained in KB887797 *not* KB823353 while the wab32.dll is the version
| > coming with plain SP1 (no KB823353 nor KB887797 installed). You have
| > a "wonderful" mix of versions there on your machine right now :-/
| >
| > So I stress you to install KB823353 with the /n:v parameter once
| > again (IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe /n:v). Please try this one in
| > normal mode, *not* safe mode. Afterwards please compare the versions
| > of the following files with the ones on your machine - yes, *all*
| > of them! In the brackets you can find the version and date of the
| > files wich are contained in KB823353:
| >
| > directdb.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
| > inetcomm.dll (6.0.2800.1441 - 07.06.2004)
| > inetres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > msident.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > msimn.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > msoe.dll (6.0.2800.1437 - 26.05.2004)
| > msoeacct.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > msoeres.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > msoert2.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
| > oeimport.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > oemig50.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > oemiglib.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > wab32.dll (6.0.2800.1450 - 24.06.2004)
| > wab.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > wabfind.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > wabimp.dll (6.0.2800.1123 - 07.06.2004)
| > wabmig.exe (6.0.2800.1123 - 03.03.2003)
| >
| > Could you please afterwards open Internet Explorer, have look in
| > "? -> Info" and please post *all* what's listet there behind and
| > under the "Update Version" section? Yes *all* these "Q......"'s.
| >
| > AND:
| >
| > Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 1:39 pm
| > From: "PA Bear"
| >
| > Thanks, Freudi.
| >
| > Dimitri, here's another description of how to do what Freudi's asked you
| > to
| > try:
| >
| > <paste>
| > Close OE. Clear History, delete Cookies and delete Temporary Internet
| > Files
| > via IE: Tools > Options > General, then...
| >
| > 1. Download the Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express 6 Service
| > Pack 1 (KB823353; all OSS) from the following link, saving it to your
| > Desktop:
| >
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...BC-DAF0-4EAB-89B8-BD702B3E3E5D&displaylang=en
| >
| > (or
http://snipurl.com/8x9i)
| >
| > [ Optional: 2. Restart the computer in Safe Mode. (During the reboot,
| > keep
| > pressing the F8 key until the Windows Startup menu appears > Choose Safe
| > Mode > Enter.) ]
| >
| > 3. Rename the downloaded file to KB823353.EXE and copy it to C:\ (the
root
| > directory of drive C; assumes drive C is the boot drive)
| >
| > 4. Start > Run > (type in) C:\KB823353.EXE /N:V (Note the space) > press
| > ENTER
| >
| > 5. Close the command window.
| >
| > 6. Reboot [into Windows] and then check in at Windows Update to see
| > KB823353
| > is still offered.
| > </paste>
| >
| > Don't install any other OE updates, just answer #6 above and either
state
| > the current versions of MSOE.DLL and INETCOMM.DLL or post your reply
using
| > OE instead of the web interface.
| > ~PA Bear
| >
| > Ottmar Freudenberger wrote:
| > <snip>
| >> Okay, so you've skipped the steps I've mentioned after having KB823353
| >> installed? ;-)
| >>
| >> Uninstall them (KB887797 and KB897715) once again please.
| >>
| >> After you've unistalled them, try to install KB823353 with the
parameter
| >> "/n:v".
| >> Assuming you've saved the "IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe" file in
| >> "C:\Downloads", you would have to enter the following in "Run" in the
| >> Start menu:
| >>
| >> C:\Downloads\IE6.0sp1-KB823353-x86-ENU.exe /n:v
| >>
| >> Note, there's a blank after the EXE and no blank in the parameter.
| >> Let me know, if the installation of KB823353 has been successful this
| >> time
| > <snip>
| >
| >
| > Date: Fri, Dec 16 2005 6:19 pm
| > From: "PA Bear"
| >
| > ActiveX controls may not load as expected in Internet Explorer due to
| > defense in depth changes introduced in cumulative security update 896688
| > (MS05-052):
http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909889
| >
| > A Web page that contains a custom ActiveX control may not load as
expected
| > in Internet Explorer due to defense in depth changes introduced in
| > cumulative security update 896688 (MS05-052):
| >
http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909738
| >
| > => The fix detailed in 909889 involving the Registry and OLE32.DLL is
| > available at
| >
| > -
http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip or
| >
| > -
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/kb896688_fix.zip (a small VB app that
| > checks the 4 values and offers a repair option if any of them are
| > incorrect).
| > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org
| >
| >> Ralf wrote:
| >> > I'd like to let the group know that the odd behavior issue which has
| > been
| >> > reported from various sources after installing the December Microsoft
| >> > Updates has been solved. I've posted the details on my blog at
| >> >
http://www.rottmann.net .
| >> >
| >
| >
| > --
| > MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > news:%2361bRhCwIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | Oh yeah... That /nv switch didn't work when I tried it. What I don't
get
| > is
| > | where she got 823353, since I've yet to see it offered by Windows
| > Updates.
| > | Thing is, KB823353 = MS04-18, whereas KB837009 = MS04-13. The notes in
| > | MS04-18 say that it replaces MS04-13.
| > |
| > | IOW, it would seem a failure of WU to not offer KB823353 to my system.
| > I'd
| > | be interested to know from folks: In Add/Remove Programs, do you have
| > either
| > | of these Updates listed (or both)?
| > |
| > | --
| > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > |
www.grystmill.com
| > |
| > | "MEB" <meb@not
here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:u6qeXOCwIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | > Frankly I'm not sure. When done with everything else [file checks,
| > | > anti-v/SpyWare, etc.] run C:\WINDOWS\QFECheck.exe and see if
anything
| > is
| > | > messed up.
| > | > Might cross-check the Windows Update.log and iuhist.xml if you used
| > | > windowsupdate during the process.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > --
| > | > _________
| > | >
| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | > news:uxvuLTBwIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | > | Uninstalled 823353, installed 837009, reinstalled 82353. But I'm
not
| > | > clear
| > | > | that that was the thing to do. We were getting blitzy, so I'm not
| > sure.
| > | > |
| > | > | --
| > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > |
www.grystmill.com
| > | > |
| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not
here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | news:OE$y%23F8vIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > Did you fix it with /N:V fix, or the reg entry, or are there
still
| > | > issues
| > | > | > with it? Just curious..
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > _________
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:uPntGK7vIHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > | The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from,
| > and
| > | > what
| > | > | > | disappeared those three other files, but what caused some
grief
| > was
| > | > that
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were able to
get
| > rid
| > | > of
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | firewall and a couple of other things, update some apps,
| > reinstall
| > | > IE,
| > | > | > etc.
| > | > | > | There is another firewall in the mix, on the Belkin router,
and
| > it
| > | > seems
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > | be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered that leaving Web
| > Shield
| > | > out
| > | > | > fixed
| > | > | > | the problem with Avast!, just before their tech response,
though
| > it
| > | > | > doesn't
| > | > | > | explain how the no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when
| > Avast!
| > | > was
| > | > | > | completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and
is
| > the
| > | > | > original
| > | > | > | install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then this
| > cable
| > | > | > company,
| > | > | > | all with their installations of branded stuff, and the cable
| > | > company's
| > | > | > | "reach into your system and FIX things" umbilical, it's hard
to
| > sort
| > | > | > stuff
| > | > | > | out. Cleaned up what was necessary to clean up (machine will
be
| > | > | > replaced,
| > | > | > | soon.) Further scans need to be run and a HJT log done right.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went
| > to
| > WU
| > | > and
| > | > | > got
| > | > | > | three updates, but then went back and one kept being
reoffered.
| > This
| > | > was
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | issue:
| > | > | > |
| > | >
| >
http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/kb837009-problem/163986.html
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | More to come if I remember more...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | --
| > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > | > |
www.grystmill.com
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "CdLSRN" <ginnyrn5@nospam.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | news:483a5a3a$0$15179$607ed4bc@cv.net...
| > | > | > | > Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me
| > | > through
| > | > | > this.
| > | > | > | > Someone
| > | > | > | > sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and
| > was
| > | > able
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > run the
| > | > | > | > repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up
my
| > | > startup
| > | > | > | > items with help
| > | > | > | > from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I
| > download
| > | > | > IE6sp1
| > | > | > | > zip from an
| > | > | > | > e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow
| > your
| > | > | > advice
| > | > | > on
| > | > | > | > just about
| > | > | > | > every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent
| > about
| > 24
| > | > | > hours
| > | > | > | > just going
| > | > | > | > through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed.
I
| > | > think
| > | > | > what
| > | > | > | > did it is I
| > | > | > | > removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think
| > that
| > | > was
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > name. and I
| > | > | > | > only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not
web
| > | > | > protection
| > | > | > | > or e-mail.
| > | > | > | > Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.
| > | > | > | > I ran scandisk.
| > | > | > | > I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I
| > start
| > | > my
| > | > | > | > computer any
| > | > | > | > referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I
never
| > had
| > | > are
| > | > | > | > gone. A few
| > | > | > | > little quirks remain such as when I try to send this
e-mail,
| > I
| > | > get
| > | > an
| > | > | > | > error message
| > | > | > | > that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox
| > from
| > | > now
| > | > | > on
| > | > | > | > and send
| > | > | > | > messages right away. At least I can get online!!!
| > | > | > | > thank you all.
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