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Re: Licensing Clarification - [MSFT], please
Vera,
I have a similar query for a 2008 TS server I'm setting up. I had read that
licensing is not enforced and am wondering: is the TS Licensing Role Service
is even required at all? Lamaslany's post seems to indicate that you must
still install TS Licensing and install your licenses, but that they won't be
given out and reflected there. Makes me wonder if it's even required to set
up a licensing server.
Thanks for the additional clarification.
Kevin
"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
> =?Utf-8?B?c2hhbmVkaWF6?= <shanediaz@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote on 27 jun 2006 in
> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
> >
> >
> > "lamaslany" wrote:
> >
> >> That's the sort of answer I like!
> >>
> >> Thanks again.
> >
> > Thanks for all the great clarification regarding Per User
> > Terminal Server CALs in Terminal Server 2003. I have read, and
> > you have also stated here, that Per User 2003 TS CALs are not
> > managed or enforced. I just wanted to get some clarification on
> > exactly what that means.
> >
> > I have installed 5 Per User CALs in Terminal Server Licensing.
> > However, after a couple of days, it is still showing all 5 as
> > available, although I know a couple of people have accessed the
> > terminal server since I installed them and set the my Terminal
> > Server to use Per User mode. Am I correct in understanding that
> > what you are saying is that it will always say that I have 5
> > available although they are being handed out?
> >
> > If that is the case I guess I will just need to take a head
> > count of who is using Terminal Server when I go to "true up"
> > with Microsoft next year? I just want to make sure I have an
> > understanding of how this works so that I don't unexpectedly run
> > into a situation where users are unable to access the Terminal
> > Server.
> >
> > In summary, I am assuming that the Terminal Server will be able
> > to pass out an unlimited number of user CALs as long as I have
> > even one of them installed, and I just have to get a head count
> > and when I true up with Microsoft every year. Does that sound
> > right? Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.
>
> Yes, that's exactly how the current situation is.
> The "available" and "issued" count in the TS Licensing Manager will
> continue to show "5" and "N/A" (Not Applicable), irrespective of
> the number of connecting users.
> You have to keep track of the number of connecting users "by hand".
> One way to do this is to add a line to your TS specific logon
> script which stores the username in a logfile. Something like:
>
> echo %username% %clientname% %date% %time% >> logon.log
>
> Or make sure that not every Domain User is by default member of the
> Remote Desktop Users group. Be very strict with membership in this
> group, and make sure that you have as many licenses as group
> members. Of course, the difficult part is to know when users stop
> connecting to the TS!
>
> Or export your Security EventLog on the TS once a month, import it
> in an Excel file and filter on TS Logons.
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
Vera,
I have a similar query for a 2008 TS server I'm setting up. I had read that
licensing is not enforced and am wondering: is the TS Licensing Role Service
is even required at all? Lamaslany's post seems to indicate that you must
still install TS Licensing and install your licenses, but that they won't be
given out and reflected there. Makes me wonder if it's even required to set
up a licensing server.
Thanks for the additional clarification.
Kevin
"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
> =?Utf-8?B?c2hhbmVkaWF6?= <shanediaz@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote on 27 jun 2006 in
> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
> >
> >
> > "lamaslany" wrote:
> >
> >> That's the sort of answer I like!
> >>
> >> Thanks again.
> >
> > Thanks for all the great clarification regarding Per User
> > Terminal Server CALs in Terminal Server 2003. I have read, and
> > you have also stated here, that Per User 2003 TS CALs are not
> > managed or enforced. I just wanted to get some clarification on
> > exactly what that means.
> >
> > I have installed 5 Per User CALs in Terminal Server Licensing.
> > However, after a couple of days, it is still showing all 5 as
> > available, although I know a couple of people have accessed the
> > terminal server since I installed them and set the my Terminal
> > Server to use Per User mode. Am I correct in understanding that
> > what you are saying is that it will always say that I have 5
> > available although they are being handed out?
> >
> > If that is the case I guess I will just need to take a head
> > count of who is using Terminal Server when I go to "true up"
> > with Microsoft next year? I just want to make sure I have an
> > understanding of how this works so that I don't unexpectedly run
> > into a situation where users are unable to access the Terminal
> > Server.
> >
> > In summary, I am assuming that the Terminal Server will be able
> > to pass out an unlimited number of user CALs as long as I have
> > even one of them installed, and I just have to get a head count
> > and when I true up with Microsoft every year. Does that sound
> > right? Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.
>
> Yes, that's exactly how the current situation is.
> The "available" and "issued" count in the TS Licensing Manager will
> continue to show "5" and "N/A" (Not Applicable), irrespective of
> the number of connecting users.
> You have to keep track of the number of connecting users "by hand".
> One way to do this is to add a line to your TS specific logon
> script which stores the username in a logfile. Something like:
>
> echo %username% %clientname% %date% %time% >> logon.log
>
> Or make sure that not every Domain User is by default member of the
> Remote Desktop Users group. Be very strict with membership in this
> group, and make sure that you have as many licenses as group
> members. Of course, the difficult part is to know when users stop
> connecting to the TS!
>
> Or export your Security EventLog on the TS once a month, import it
> in an Excel file and filter on TS Logons.
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
