Mail Program for 95B

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Running 95B on a P166 system. Both Hotmail and GMail lock up
the pc or at best take 10 to 15 min to load.
I don't want to upgrade to 98SE (I have the oem software)
because I don't run any anti-virus and have had _no problems.

Need suggestions for a e-mail program. Don't need a
'client', just a simple program to send and receive mail.

Regards.........

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Re: Mail Program for 95B


"C B" <c__bennett@msnNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:20080601012714.523$GB@newsreader.com...
> Running 95B on a P166 system. Both Hotmail and GMail lock up
> the pc or at best take 10 to 15 min to load.
> I don't want to upgrade to 98SE (I have the oem software)
> because I don't run any anti-virus and have had _no problems.
>
> Need suggestions for a e-mail program. Don't need a
> 'client', just a simple program to send and receive mail.
>
> Regards.........
>



GMail and Hotmail are both web-based.
Though I don't use Hotmail...I have noticed that GMail does seem to take a
lot of resources
and has difficulty loading on a lower end machine.

Possibly using POP3 and an email reader will work better...

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=13273

your machine probably has OE already and you could use that
 
Re: Mail Program for 95B

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
> "C B" <c__bennett@msnNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:20080601012714.523$GB@newsreader.com...
> > Running 95B on a P166 system. Both Hotmail and GMail lock up
> > the pc or at best take 10 to 15 min to load.
> > I don't want to upgrade to 98SE (I have the oem software)
> > because I don't run any anti-virus and have had _no problems.
> >
> > Need suggestions for a e-mail program. Don't need a
> > 'client', just a simple program to send and receive mail.
> >
> > Regards.........
> >
>
> GMail and Hotmail are both web-based.
> Though I don't use Hotmail...I have noticed that GMail does seem to take
> a lot of resources
> and has difficulty loading on a lower end machine.
>
> Possibly using POP3 and an email reader will work better...
>
> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=13273
>
> your machine probably has OE already and you could use that

I followed your suggestion and changed to pop3 and to 'standard view' and
gmail loaded somewhat faster. Made a couple of other changes, eg: to have
a copy of incoming forwarded to my WebTv email. I'll try to configure OE
but it's OE 5, so not sure if it would work with gmail. I'm typing this
on a faster machine (MacBook), so will let you know how I made out when I
log to my old (stone age) Win 95.

Will look into 'email reader'(?) later today.

Thanks again......

BTW...I have both dial-up and broadband access, so I'm using dial-up on
this machine to see before and after with changes in gmail regardless of
machine used. Your changes are faster.

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Re: Mail Program for 95B

c__bennett@msnNOSPAM.com (C B) wrote in
news:20080601012714.523$GB@newsreader.com:

> Running 95B on a P166 system.

Me too.

> Both Hotmail and GMail lock up
> the pc or at best take 10 to 15 min to load.

Your computer needs tweaking. I get to both right away, except
Hotmail is now switching to XP/Vista-compatible only database
system so they can go to hell. Fortunately, gmail works just
fine, and can be accessed via any POP3 client avoiding the www
nightmares.

> I don't want to upgrade to 98SE (I have the oem software)
> because I don't run any anti-virus and have had _no problems.

Get f-prot for DOS. In about 10 years I found ONE virus, but
it's still not a bad thing to check once in a while...

Anyway, get:

npop109win32_EN.zip (size 94 KB)

from

http://www.nakka.com/soft/npop/index_eng.html

If you want to use it with your gmail account (you WILL
unfortunately have to configure that via www, but you can do it
on another machine - I did it on my 10½ yr old 95B computer but
it was a bit of a struggle) you will also need to DL and install
the SSL files (put them in the same directory):

npopssl002win32.zip (size 540 KB)

If you want to use it with a regular POP3 account you may not
even need the SSL files. I have one of those which costs me $15
a year, and I get virtually no spam and no one but my friends
have the address. I got the gmail address for throwaway web
crap, which is what I used Hotmail for before.

The installed program is under 200KB (plus less than a meg for
the SSL files), runs like lightning and supports multiple
accounts. There isn't a help file, the author doesn't really
speak English, but there is an English web site for fans/users.
They have actually rewritten the program "with amazing new
features" but their main new feature is that the program no
longer runs on 95. So that's that.

If you Google for nPop you will find that English site, it has
tips on setting up etc.

You can also ask me here if you have problems. I visit once in a
while - kind of a dead group.

I have tried at least a dozen email programs on this machine,
and this is the BEST. It would be well worth $50 but it's free!



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Re: Mail Program for 95B


"C B" <surfer@surfing.org> wrote in message
news:20080601114002.758$Qy@newsreader.com...
> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
> > "C B" <c__bennett@msnNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> > news:20080601012714.523$GB@newsreader.com...
> > > Running 95B on a P166 system. Both Hotmail and GMail lock up
> > > the pc or at best take 10 to 15 min to load.
> > > I don't want to upgrade to 98SE (I have the oem software)
> > > because I don't run any anti-virus and have had _no problems.
> > >
> > > Need suggestions for a e-mail program. Don't need a
> > > 'client', just a simple program to send and receive mail.
> > >
> > > Regards.........
> > >
> >
> > GMail and Hotmail are both web-based.
> > Though I don't use Hotmail...I have noticed that GMail does seem to
take
> > a lot of resources
> > and has difficulty loading on a lower end machine.
> >
> > Possibly using POP3 and an email reader will work better...
> >
> > http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=13273
> >
> > your machine probably has OE already and you could use that
>
> I followed your suggestion and changed to pop3 and to 'standard view'
and
> gmail loaded somewhat faster. Made a couple of other changes, eg: to
have
> a copy of incoming forwarded to my WebTv email. I'll try to configure OE
> but it's OE 5, so not sure if it would work with gmail. I'm typing this
> on a faster machine (MacBook), so will let you know how I made out when
I
> log to my old (stone age) Win 95.
>
> Will look into 'email reader'(?) later today.
>
> Thanks again......
>
> BTW...I have both dial-up and broadband access, so I'm using dial-up on
> this machine to see before and after with changes in gmail regardless
of
> machine used. Your changes are faster.
>



Ok

Looks like you should be using broadband if you've got it!
 
Re: Mail Program for 95B

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
> "C B" <surfer@surfing.org> wrote in message
> news:20080601114002.758$Qy@newsreader.com...
> > "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
> > > "C B" <c__bennett@msnNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20080601012714.523$GB@newsreader.com...
> > > > Running 95B on a P166 system. Both Hotmail and GMail lock up
> > > > the pc or at best take 10 to 15 min to load.
> > > > I don't want to upgrade to 98SE (I have the oem software)
> > > > because I don't run any anti-virus and have had _no problems.
> > > >
> > > > Need suggestions for a e-mail program. Don't need a
> > > > 'client', just a simple program to send and receive mail.
> > > >
> > > > Regards.........
> > > >
> > >
> > > GMail and Hotmail are both web-based.
> > > Though I don't use Hotmail...I have noticed that GMail does seem to
> take
> > > a lot of resources
> > > and has difficulty loading on a lower end machine.
> > >
> > > Possibly using POP3 and an email reader will work better...
> > >
> > > http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=13273
> > >
> > > your machine probably has OE already and you could use that
> >
> > I followed your suggestion and changed to pop3 and to 'standard view'
> and
> > gmail loaded somewhat faster. Made a couple of other changes, eg: to
> have
> > a copy of incoming forwarded to my WebTv email. I'll try to configure
> > OE but it's OE 5, so not sure if it would work with gmail. I'm typing
> > this on a faster machine (MacBook), so will let you know how I made
> > out when
> I
> > log to my old (stone age) Win 95.
> >
> > Will look into 'email reader'(?) later today.
> >
> > Thanks again......
> >
> > BTW...I have both dial-up and broadband access, so I'm using dial-up
> > on this machine to see before and after with changes in gmail
> > regardless
> of
> > machine used. Your changes are faster.
> >
>
> Ok
>
> Looks like you should be using broadband if you've got it!

I do. But I just LIKE old operating systems and older machines.
I like problem solving (to a degree). I have a paid up annual
account with MSNIA.

Again thanks for your help.

O/T....How are you on downloading movies? I've got a question
if you don't mind.

Regards.....

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Re: Mail Program for 95B

On 01 Jun 2008 05:27:10 GMT, c__bennett@msnNOSPAM.com (C B) wrote:

> Running 95B on a P166 system. Both Hotmail and GMail lock up
> the pc or at best take 10 to 15 min to load.
> I don't want to upgrade to 98SE (I have the oem software)
> because I don't run any anti-virus and have had _no problems.
>
> Need suggestions for a e-mail program. Don't need a
> 'client', just a simple program to send and receive mail.
>
> Regards.........
>
>-
Using Pegasus mail 4.31 on w95b 2.1here.
Free, OK for dialup or Broadband.
 
Re: Mail Program for 95B


"C B" <surfer@surfing.org> wrote in message
news:20080601133507.648$7L@newsreader.com...
> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
> > "C B" <surfer@surfing.org> wrote in message
> > news:20080601114002.758$Qy@newsreader.com...
> > > "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
> > > > "C B" <c__bennett@msnNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:20080601012714.523$GB@newsreader.com...
> > > > > Running 95B on a P166 system. Both Hotmail and GMail lock up
> > > > > the pc or at best take 10 to 15 min to load.
> > > > > I don't want to upgrade to 98SE (I have the oem software)
> > > > > because I don't run any anti-virus and have had _no problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > Need suggestions for a e-mail program. Don't need a
> > > > > 'client', just a simple program to send and receive mail.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards.........
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > GMail and Hotmail are both web-based.
> > > > Though I don't use Hotmail...I have noticed that GMail does seem to
> > take
> > > > a lot of resources
> > > > and has difficulty loading on a lower end machine.
> > > >
> > > > Possibly using POP3 and an email reader will work better...
> > > >
> > > > http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=13273
> > > >
> > > > your machine probably has OE already and you could use that
> > >
> > > I followed your suggestion and changed to pop3 and to 'standard
view'
> > and
> > > gmail loaded somewhat faster. Made a couple of other changes, eg: to
> > have
> > > a copy of incoming forwarded to my WebTv email. I'll try to
configure
> > > OE but it's OE 5, so not sure if it would work with gmail. I'm
typing
> > > this on a faster machine (MacBook), so will let you know how I made
> > > out when
> > I
> > > log to my old (stone age) Win 95.
> > >
> > > Will look into 'email reader'(?) later today.
> > >
> > > Thanks again......
> > >
> > > BTW...I have both dial-up and broadband access, so I'm using
dial-up
> > > on this machine to see before and after with changes in gmail
> > > regardless
> > of
> > > machine used. Your changes are faster.
> > >
> >
> > Ok
> >
> > Looks like you should be using broadband if you've got it!
>
> I do. But I just LIKE old operating systems and older machines.
> I like problem solving (to a degree). I have a paid up annual
> account with MSNIA.
>
> Again thanks for your help.
>
> O/T....How are you on downloading movies? I've got a question
> if you don't mind.
>
>


I like old computers and old operating systems too.
I've got win95 setup on a 386 and it works fine.

As to downloading movies, If you have a question no harm in asking.
Though I've never downloaded movies...I have downloaded a few Linux distros
and they are quite large.

I've found that a download manager often is a big help.
 
Re: Mail Program for 95B

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:

> > > >>>Snipped ^^^^^<<<<<
> > > Ok
> > >
> > > Looks like you should be using broadband if you've got it!
> >
> > I do. But I just LIKE old operating systems and older machines.
> >
> >
> >
>
> I like old computers and old operating systems too.
> I've got win95 setup on a 386 and it works fine.
>
> As to downloading movies, If you have a question no harm in asking.
> Though I've never downloaded movies...I have downloaded a few Linux
> distros and they are quite large.
>
> I've found that a download manager often is a big help.

My movie problem is multi-part movies.

I downloaded a French film from the 60s which was 699 mb in
one file. Downloaded in about 10 minutes or so.

If however it had been rar or avi into parts....ie:
avi.001 thru avi.699 is where I'm at a loss.

Without using a Newsreader is there a tweek in either Win or
Macs OS that I'm missing. I'm thinking there must be a 3rd
party progrom that isn't an eye candy piece of bloat with 300
options that 99% of users don't use or need.

I do try to avoid 3rd party software if there is any way I can
use what came with the system.

I know this is way Off Topic, so thanks for any help.

Regards......

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Re: Mail Program for 95B

surfer@surfing.org (C B) wrote:
> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > > > >>>Snipped ^^^^^<<<<<
> > > > Ok
> > > >
> > > > Looks like you should be using broadband if you've got it!
> > >
> > > I do. But I just LIKE old operating systems and older machines.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I like old computers and old operating systems too.
> > I've got win95 setup on a 386 and it works fine.
> >
> > As to downloading movies, If you have a question no harm in asking.
> > Though I've never downloaded movies...I have downloaded a few Linux
> > distros and they are quite large.
> >
> > I've found that a download manager often is a big help.
>
> My movie problem is multi-part movies.
>
> I downloaded a French film from the 60s which was 699 mb in
> one file. Downloaded in about 10 minutes or so.
>
> If however it had been rar or avi into parts....ie:
> avi.001 thru avi.699 is where I'm at a loss.
>
> Without using a Newsreader is there a tweek in either Win or
> Macs OS that I'm missing. I'm thinking there must be a 3rd
> party progrom that isn't an eye candy piece of bloat with 300
> options that 99% of users don't use or need.
>
> I do try to avoid 3rd party software if there is any way I can
> use what came with the system.
>
> I know this is way Off Topic, so thanks for any help.
>
> Regards......

I guess I should be clearer. Is there a way to download multi-
part files, either binary or text etc without seperate action?

A program to download either in sequence or simultaneusly.

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Re: Mail Program for 95B

thanatoid <waiting@the.exit.invalid> wrote:
> c__bennett@msnNOSPAM.com (C B) wrote in
> news:20080601012714.523$GB@newsreader.com:
>
> > Running 95B on a P166 system.
>
> Me too.
>
> > Both Hotmail and GMail lock up
> > the pc or at best take 10 to 15 min to load.
>
> Your computer needs tweaking. I get to both right away, except
> Hotmail is now switching to XP/Vista-compatible only database
> system so they can go to hell. Fortunately, gmail works just
> fine, and can be accessed via any POP3 client avoiding the www
> nightmares.
>
> > I don't want to upgrade to 98SE (I have the oem software)
> > because I don't run any anti-virus and have had _no problems.
>
> Get f-prot for DOS. In about 10 years I found ONE virus, but
> it's still not a bad thing to check once in a while...
>
> Anyway, get:
>
> npop109win32_EN.zip (size 94 KB)
>
> from
>
> http://www.nakka.com/soft/npop/index_eng.html
>
> If you want to use it with your gmail account (you WILL
> unfortunately have to configure that via www, but you can do it
> on another machine - I did it on my 10½ yr old 95B computer but
> it was a bit of a struggle) you will also need to DL and install
> the SSL files (put them in the same directory):
>
> npopssl002win32.zip (size 540 KB)
>
> If you want to use it with a regular POP3 account you may not
> even need the SSL files. I have one of those which costs me $15
> a year, and I get virtually no spam and no one but my friends
> have the address. I got the gmail address for throwaway web
> crap, which is what I used Hotmail for before.
>
> The installed program is under 200KB (plus less than a meg for
> the SSL files), runs like lightning and supports multiple
> accounts. There isn't a help file, the author doesn't really
> speak English, but there is an English web site for fans/users.
> They have actually rewritten the program "with amazing new
> features" but their main new feature is that the program no
> longer runs on 95. So that's that.
>
> If you Google for nPop you will find that English site, it has
> tips on setting up etc.
>
> You can also ask me here if you have problems. I visit once in a
> while - kind of a dead group.
>
> I have tried at least a dozen email programs on this machine,
> and this is the BEST. It would be well worth $50 but it's free!

I have fprot on disk somewhere. Downloaded npop1002win32.zip.
I'll take a look later this evening or tomorrow.

Thanks for feedback.

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Re: Mail Program for 95B

donotreply@invalid.zetnet.co.uk (norm) wrote:
> On 01 Jun 2008 05:27:10 GMT, c__bennett@msnNOSPAM.com (C B) wrote:
>
> > Running 95B on a P166 system. Both Hotmail and GMail lock up
> > the pc or at best take 10 to 15 min to load.
> > I don't want to upgrade to 98SE (I have the oem software)
> > because I don't run any anti-virus and have had _no problems.
> >
> > Need suggestions for a e-mail program. Don't need a
> > 'client', just a simple program to send and receive mail.
> >
> > Regards.........
> >
> >-
> Using Pegasus mail 4.31 on w95b 2.1here.
> Free, OK for dialup or Broadband.

I'll take a look at site later.

Thanks...

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Re: Mail Program for 95B

surfer@surfing.org (C B) wrote:
> donotreply@invalid.zetnet.co.uk (norm) wrote:
> > On 01 Jun 2008 05:27:10 GMT, c__bennett@msnNOSPAM.com (C B) wrote:
> >
> > > Running 95B on a P166 system. Both Hotmail and GMail lock up
> > > the pc or at best take 10 to 15 min to load.
> > > I don't want to upgrade to 98SE (I have the oem software)
> > > because I don't run any anti-virus and have had _no problems.
> > >
> > > Need suggestions for a e-mail program. Don't need a
> > > 'client', just a simple program to send and receive mail.
> > >
> > > Regards.........
> > >
> > >-
> > Using Pegasus mail 4.31 on w95b 2.1here.
> > Free, OK for dialup or Broadband.
>
> I'll take a look at site later.
>
> Thanks...

Went to website. No 4.31,.....only 32 bit was 4.31 which does not support
95b.

Thanks anyway.

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Re: Mail Program for 95B


"C B" <surfer@surfing.org> wrote in message
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> surfer@surfing.org (C B) wrote:
>> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > > >>>Snipped ^^^^^<<<<<
>> > > > Ok
>> > > >
>> > > > Looks like you should be using broadband if you've got it!
>> > >
>> > > I do. But I just LIKE old operating systems and older machines.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > I like old computers and old operating systems too.
>> > I've got win95 setup on a 386 and it works fine.
>> >
>> > As to downloading movies, If you have a question no harm in asking.
>> > Though I've never downloaded movies...I have downloaded a few Linux
>> > distros and they are quite large.
>> >
>> > I've found that a download manager often is a big help.
>>
>> My movie problem is multi-part movies.
>>
>> I downloaded a French film from the 60s which was 699 mb in
>> one file. Downloaded in about 10 minutes or so.
>>
>> If however it had been rar or avi into parts....ie:
>> avi.001 thru avi.699 is where I'm at a loss.
>>
>> Without using a Newsreader is there a tweek in either Win or
>> Macs OS that I'm missing. I'm thinking there must be a 3rd
>> party progrom that isn't an eye candy piece of bloat with 300
>> options that 99% of users don't use or need.
>>
>> I do try to avoid 3rd party software if there is any way I can
>> use what came with the system.
>>
>> I know this is way Off Topic, so thanks for any help.
>>
>> Regards......
>
> I guess I should be clearer. Is there a way to download multi-
> part files, either binary or text etc without seperate action?
>
> A program to download either in sequence or simultaneusly.
>


I use an app called Free Download Manager

http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/index.htm
 
Re: Mail Program for 95B

On 02 Jun 2008 00:42:07 GMT, surfer@surfing.org (C B) wrote:

>surfer@surfing.org (C B) wrote:
>> donotreply@invalid.zetnet.co.uk (norm) wrote:
>> > On 01 Jun 2008 05:27:10 GMT, c__bennett@msnNOSPAM.com (C B) wrote:
>> >
>> > > Running 95B on a P166 system. Both Hotmail and GMail lock up
>> > > the pc or at best take 10 to 15 min to load.
>> > > I don't want to upgrade to 98SE (I have the oem software)
>> > > because I don't run any anti-virus and have had _no problems.
>> > >
>> > > Need suggestions for a e-mail program. Don't need a
>> > > 'client', just a simple program to send and receive mail.
>> > >
>> > > Regards.........
>> > >
>> > >-
>> > Using Pegasus mail 4.31 on w95b 2.1here.
>> > Free, OK for dialup or Broadband.
>>
>> I'll take a look at site later.
>>
>> Thanks...
>
> Went to website. No 4.31,.....only 32 bit was 4.31 which does not support
> 95b.
>
>
Have checked my 95b(2.1) PC. Yes it is 4.31.
You may need to update DUN from MS site, DUN14-95.EXE
and update browser toIE5.5. But cant be sure.
 
Re: Mail Program for 95B

Thunderbird 1 and Firefox 1.5 will run on W95B, though paradoxically the
installer won't. To get round this just install on 2000/XP and copy the
program folder over.

Pegasus Mail will also work, up to v4.02 I think. The latest won't because
it uses unicode.

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"C B" wrote:

> thanatoid <waiting@the.exit.invalid> wrote:
> > c__bennett@msnNOSPAM.com (C B) wrote in
> > news:20080601012714.523$GB@newsreader.com:
> >
> > > Running 95B on a P166 system.
 
Re: Mail Program for 95B

C B wrote:
> Running 95B on a P166 system. Both Hotmail and GMail lock up
> the pc or at best take 10 to 15 min to load.
> I don't want to upgrade to 98SE (I have the oem software)
> because I don't run any anti-virus and have had _no problems.
>
> Need suggestions for a e-mail program. Don't need a
> 'client', just a simple program to send and receive mail.
>
> Regards.........

My blind friends have been running Eudora for years, and I see the website
(http://www.eudora.com/) still has lots of old versions available
(http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2350hq.html/, then
ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/).

It seems to have three modes, Paid, Sponsored, and Light;
http://www.eudora.com/download/ says Paid is no longer available for
purchase, Sponsored is only available on the latest version (XP/2000), and "
Older versions revert to Light mode ", which is " Even fewer features
a.. No person-to-person technical support" - which is probably exactly what
you want..


Of course, there are DOS prog.s, such as the suite Demon built around KA9Q,
and windows 3.1 ones, but I presume you want a _bit_ more than that (-:!

Wasn't there a version of Outhouse Distress with W95? (Or at least available
for?)

http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=eudora has it from 7.0.1 back to
1.4.4 (0.3 MB).
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J. P. Gilliver | Tel. +44 1634 203298
 

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