going from XP to Vista

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Hello,
I have XP running on my pc which has been activated and im going to format
and install Vista.
My question is can I reinstall Xp on to another Pc and activate it. Will it
come up as already been activated. It was activated about 12 months ago or
more.

Thank you
Scott
 
Re: going from XP to Vista

Scott

Retail or OEM version of XP?


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"scott" <scott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:86A5476D-A7DF-4860-B76F-3ABB25B06F73@microsoft.com...
> Hello,
> I have XP running on my pc which has been activated and im going to
> format
> and install Vista.
> My question is can I reinstall Xp on to another Pc and activate it.
> Will it
> come up as already been activated. It was activated about 12 months
> ago or
> more.
>
> Thank you
> Scott
 
Re: going from XP to Vista

scott wrote:
> Hello,
> I have XP running on my pc which has been activated and im going to format
> and install Vista.
> My question is can I reinstall Xp on to another Pc and activate it. Will it
> come up as already been activated. It was activated about 12 months ago or
> more.
>
> Thank you
> Scott


Assuming a retail license (OEM licenses are not legitimately
transferable), and assuming that the WinXP license wasn't used to
qualify for a Vista Upgrade license (in which case the WinXP license
became an inseparable part of the Vista license), simply remove WinXP
from the computer it is currently on and then install it on the new
computer. If it's been more than 120 days since you last activated that
specific Product Key, the you'll most likely be able to activate via the
Internet without problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5
minute phone call.

Here are the facts pertaining to activation:

Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/

Windows Product Activation (WPA)
http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm



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Re: going from XP to Vista

scott wrote:
> Hello,
> I have XP running on my pc which has been activated and im going to format
> and install Vista.
> My question is can I reinstall Xp on to another Pc and activate it. Will it
> come up as already been activated. It was activated about 12 months ago or
> more.
>
> Thank you
> Scott

If it's been over 120 days, it doesn't matter if it's a generic OEM or
retail copy. It will activate on line. If it's a branded restore CD, it
won't work.

Alias
 
Re: going from XP to Vista

Alias wrote:
>
> If it's been over 120 days, it doesn't matter if it's a generic OEM ....


It would matter if the OP has any integrity.


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Re: going from XP to Vista

Bruce Chambers wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>>
>> If it's been over 120 days, it doesn't matter if it's a generic OEM ....
>
>
> It would matter if the OP has any integrity.
>
>

Integrity is a subjective thing. One license, one computer should be
enough for MS. If not, tough titties and they can just go fsck
themselves if they don't like it. So can you. How's that for integrity?
Just because someone agrees to an EULA to install XP, doesn't mean that
one really agrees with it.

Alias
 
Re: going from XP to Vista

From a legal standpoint, you are 100% wrong.

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"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
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> Just because someone agrees to an EULA to install XP, doesn't mean that
> one really agrees with it.
 
Re: going from XP to Vista

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> From a legal standpoint, you are 100% wrong.
>

So what? There are a lot of laws on the books that people, even legal
authorities, break. For example, in NYC, it's illegal for women to wear
lipstick on the street.

From a practical and technical standpoint, I am 100% correct.

Alias
 
Re: going from XP to Vista

Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

>Integrity is a subjective thing.

Only those without any would agree.
 
Re: going from XP to Vista

Alias wrote:
> Bruce Chambers wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>> If it's been over 120 days, it doesn't matter if it's a generic OEM ....
>>
>>
>> It would matter if the OP has any integrity.
>>
>>
>
> Integrity is a subjective thing.



Not to anyone that has it.


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Re: going from XP to Vista

Scott,

These type of questions always generate heated arguments and debates.
My advice to everyone is to try it and see what happens. I have not
heard anyone being killed by installing a software which they were not
entitled to!!.

However, if the XP CD you have is from a branded computer supplier like
Dell or HP then don't even try to install it because it won't work.

Hope this helps.


scott wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I have XP running on my pc which has been activated and im going to format
> and install Vista.
> My question is can I reinstall Xp on to another Pc and activate it. Will it
> come up as already been activated. It was activated about 12 months ago or
> more.
>
> Thank you
> Scott
 
Re: going from XP to Vista

Uncle Grumpy wrote:
> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>
>> Integrity is a subjective thing.
>
> Only those without any would agree.

I see. YOUR integrity is the correct one. Now I understand.

Alias
 
Re: going from XP to Vista

Bruce Chambers wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Bruce Chambers wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If it's been over 120 days, it doesn't matter if it's a generic OEM
>>>> ....
>>>
>>>
>>> It would matter if the OP has any integrity.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Integrity is a subjective thing.
>
>
>
> Not to anyone that has it.

I see. YOUR integrity is the correct one. Now I understand.

Alias
 
Re: going from XP to Vista

Alias wrote:
> Bruce Chambers wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> Bruce Chambers wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If it's been over 120 days, it doesn't matter if it's a generic OEM
>>>>> ....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It would matter if the OP has any integrity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Integrity is a subjective thing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Not to anyone that has it.
>
> I see. YOUR integrity is the correct one. Now I understand.
>
> Alias


Either one has integrity, or one doesn't. There's nothing in the least
bit "relative" about it. You are clearly completely unfamiliar with the
concept.

integrity (http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/integrity)

Main Entry:
in·teg·ri·ty Listen to the pronunciation of integrity
Pronunciation:
\in-ˈte-grə-tē\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English integrite, from Middle French & Latin; Middle French
integrité, from Latin integritat-, integritas, from integr-, integer entire
Date:
14th century

1 : firm adherence to a code of especially moral or artistic values :
incorruptibility 2 : an unimpaired condition : soundness 3 : the quality
or state of being complete or undivided : completeness
synonyms see *honesty*

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrity)
*Integrity* is the basing of one's actions on an internally consistent
framework of principles. Depth of principles and adherence of each level
to the next are key determining factors. One is said to have integrity
to the extent that everything he does and believes is based on the same
core set of values. While those values may change, it is their
consistency with each other and with the person's actions that determine
his integrity.

The concept of integrity is directly linked to responsibility in that
implementation spawning from principles is designed with a specific
outcome in mind. When the action fails to achieve the desired effect, a
change of principles is indicated. Accountability is achieved when a
faulty principle is identified and changed to produce a more useful action.


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Re: going from XP to Vista

Bruce Chambers wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Bruce Chambers wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Bruce Chambers wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it's been over 120 days, it doesn't matter if it's a generic
>>>>>> OEM ....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It would matter if the OP has any integrity.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Integrity is a subjective thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not to anyone that has it.
>>
>> I see. YOUR integrity is the correct one. Now I understand.
>>
>> Alias
>
>
> Either one has integrity, or one doesn't. There's nothing in the
> least bit "relative" about it. You are clearly completely unfamiliar
> with the concept.

See below. Oh, and does "integrity" include not using insults to make
your argument?

>
> integrity (http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/integrity)
>
> Main Entry:
> in·teg·ri·ty Listen to the pronunciation of integrity
> Pronunciation:
> \in-ˈte-grə-tē\
> Function:
> noun
> Etymology:
> Middle English integrite, from Middle French & Latin; Middle French
> integrité, from Latin integritat-, integritas, from integr-, integer entire
> Date:
> 14th century
>
> 1 : firm adherence to a code of especially moral or artistic values :

Which are established by whom, you and MS?

> incorruptibility 2 : an unimpaired condition : soundness 3 : the quality
> or state of being complete or undivided : completeness
> synonyms see *honesty*
>
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrity)
> *Integrity* is the basing of one's actions on an internally consistent
> framework of principles. Depth of principles and adherence of each level
> to the next are key determining factors. One is said to have integrity
> to the extent that everything he does and believes is based on the same
> core set of values. While those values may change, it is their
> consistency with each other and with the person's actions that determine
> his integrity.

And who determines these principles, you and MS?
>
> The concept of integrity is directly linked to responsibility in that
> implementation spawning from principles is designed with a specific
> outcome in mind. When the action fails to achieve the desired effect, a
> change of principles is indicated. Accountability is achieved when a
> faulty principle is identified and changed to produce a more useful action.

Oh, so principles can be changed. Like I said, subjective. What is
integrity for some, isn't for others.

Alias
 
Re: going from XP to Vista

Alias wrote:
>
> Oh, so principles can be changed. Like I said, subjective. What is
> integrity for some, isn't for others.
>
> Alias


Principles may be changed, but not integrity. The two are *not* one
and the same. Sheesh! It's like trying to explain blue to someone
blind from birth. Especially as there are "none so blind as those who
will not see."

You go on rationalizing your dishonesty any way that makes you
comfortable, Alias. Just make sure you continue posting under your "nom
de plume" so no one who has to do business with you will discover how
"flexible" your view of integrity is.


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Re: going from XP to Vista

Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

>> Either one has integrity, or one doesn't. There's nothing in the
>> least bit "relative" about it. You are clearly completely unfamiliar
>> with the concept.
>
>See below. Oh, and does "integrity" include not using insults to make
>your argument?

You won't win this one. He was right: you're clearly unfamiliar with
the concept.
 
Re: going from XP to Vista

The only insult is an implied one - that you lack integrity, as evidenced by
your own arguments. Is it really an insult if it's true?

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www.grystmill.com

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:etHsyPYwHHA.3364@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> See below. Oh, and does "integrity" include not using insults to make your
> argument?
 
Re: going from XP to Vista

Bruce Chambers wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>>
>> Oh, so principles can be changed. Like I said, subjective. What is
>> integrity for some, isn't for others.
>>
>> Alias
>
>
> Principles may be changed, but not integrity. The two are *not* one
> and the same. Sheesh! It's like trying to explain blue to someone
> blind from birth. Especially as there are "none so blind as those who
> will not see."
>
> You go on rationalizing your dishonesty any way that makes you
> comfortable, Alias. Just make sure you continue posting under your "nom
> de plume" so no one who has to do business with you will discover how
> "flexible" your view of integrity is.
>
>

There's nothing dishonest about not agreeing with an EULA and using the
media one bought the way one sees fit. In Spain, it's legal as long as
it isn't done to make (not save) money. Ergo, where I live, installing
an OEM generic copy on one PC and then, later, when that PC is no longer
useful, installing it on another is completely legal. No lack of
integrity. Not illegal.

Game, match.

Alias
 
Re: going from XP to Vista

Uncle Grumpy wrote:
> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>
>>> Either one has integrity, or one doesn't. There's nothing in the
>>> least bit "relative" about it. You are clearly completely unfamiliar
>>> with the concept.
>> See below. Oh, and does "integrity" include not using insults to make
>> your argument?
>
> You won't win this one. He was right: you're clearly unfamiliar with
> the concept.

There's nothing dishonest about not agreeing with an EULA and using the
media one bought the way one sees fit. In Spain, it's legal as long as
it isn't done to make (not save) money. Ergo, where I live, installing
an OEM generic copy on one PC and then, later, when that PC is no longer
useful, installing it on another is completely legal. No lack of
integrity. Not illegal.

Game, match.

Alias
 

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