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Re: WinXP --> Win98 Dial Up (direct)
Alright Gary, you want the gloves off,, okay, I can handle that.
So tell this group in your infinite wisdom why you are so friggin ignorant
that you fail to understand how and why you block all this crap being shoved
down the throats of the users on the Web... come on hot shot, explain WHY
you think all of this is good,,,, tell us all about how YOU secure your
systems.
By the way, just what is it that you have done recently for the good of
mankind... I'll wait for several years for you to dream up some kind of
story.. what VALUE do you have to mankind, what's your purpose on this
planet... I realize you have value to the dog world,, but hey, there's a lot
of other animals out there...
As for my site,, its ranked and indexed,, move it again [as was done
because of the last idiots running that prior service] and all that's
gone... so how's you site doing Gary? Want some more help with making your
web pages???
Hypocrite for security? Hardly. I happen to have directed to various
security issues ON the site... and **repeatedly** IN this group. So when
have you done that recently? Or is this dumb little tirade your vain
attempt.
Go take your pills Gary, and find Dan, I think you guys need to help each
other...
--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
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| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:OodnLtdzIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| >
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > news:eHRcd5ZzIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | 1. I know they aren't yours, I said as much. But now it's clear that
you
| > | will willingly trade with your enemy in order to save a few bucks.
| > Surely
| > | you can find a free service with higher moral standards.
| > |
| > | 2. I don't know ahead of time which sites I go to use pop-ups. Some
that
| > I'm
| > | accustomed to using change their procedures to using them. I so seldom
| > have
| > | problems with pop-ups that I simply turn them off for sites that can't
| > stop
| > | after one. Or remember to never go there again. Even the major
| > commercial
| > | sites that use them for simple advertising, don't make them of the
| > "can't
| > | close", endless pop-ups variety. Those types are reserved to the ninth
| > | circle of hell.
| > |
| > | In any case, for those of us who think YOU are responsible for
whatever
| > | tries to get into our computers when we go to YOUR site, I thought the
| > | warning was warranted.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | http://grystmill.com
| > |
| >
| >
| > Well, then you haven't been party to any of the discussions with the
| > service
| > operators, have you... gees I even posted indication of this several
times
| > in this group..
|
| What's that, some excuse? Do you think I read every word you post? What do
| you say, "Beware of my site, it has nasty stuff." You certainly don't put
| that disclaimer on every one of your posts (which all have at least one
link
| to your site.)
|
| And who are these "service operators"? If you're hinting at some
fine-print
| weasel out... I'm talking about YOU, Maurice, the self-annointed Pope of
| security in this group. You don't feel just a little bit icky trading your
| soul and selling your your site to purveyors of such objectionable crap,
| crap that's totally rare outside the sex sites these days? I know, because
I
| leave my pop-up blocker off an go to all kinds of free sites, drivers
| downloads, etc. I even click on the sex links every once in a while to see
| what they're up to. The one I got at your site today is one I haven't seen
| in a couple of years. Probably because it turned out not to get positive
| results.
|
| > Just as YOU want everything, right now, and don't care how you get it,
so
| > do the operators of that service... I find it quite amusing that you
| > continue to subject yourself to tracking cookies, popups, and other junk
| > which can easily be blocked by one who bothers to look for methods to do
| > so,
| > particularly as you are an MVP for the Windows OSs.
|
| You haven't the slightest idea what I do to protect myself. I'm perfectly
| well protected from anything getting into my machine that will cause me
any
| problems. Additionally, I keep TOTAL control of cookies, and I've already
| explained that contrary to your opinion, I find pop-ups to be
indispensible
| in a lot of places I go, and I HATE whitelists. I also don't have much
good
| to say for anyone who lumps all this stuff together as BAD when in many if
| not most cases outside the sex sites it works like it was intended to.
|
| > As for where else to put my site, seems most people are just like you
| > apparently are, when confronted with a pro bono site for which I have no
| > more intention to supply cost out of my own pocket, they feel they
should
| > make some type of money from it. I thought the materials relevant enough
| > to
| > put it in the public rather than as the limited VPN it was for years.
Not
| > that many people actually appreciate the site, since it deals with
reality
| > rather than daily junk, mindless ramblings, and misdirections based
| > largely
| > upon the thin air that seems to be what the video/TV/gaming/scripted
| > unreality public presently desires and gets lost in Seems the students
| > find
| > some of the materials useful, and the materials were used for awhile in
| > various courses offered, but then that would make them potentially as
the
| > apparently hated intellectuals in America.
| >
| > Soooo, if you want to stop the operators from doing what they are, why
not
| > drop them an email or two explaining your position on their service.
There
| > is a contact address for them on the main orgfree service page.
|
| Those last two paragraphs are unintelligible. Care to try again? You're
| saying that *I* want to make money from your site? That I make money from
| mine? What? And who cares who goes to your site and why? When you send
| people there from here, where you have a certain reputation, posting
CERTs,
| trying to get me any way you can to discuss comparative OSes especially
with
| regard to security (when it's obvious that I couldn't care less), one
would
| not expect the site to be so sleazy. If *I* were seriously interested in
| your writings (and I have read at least some of your stuff), I would
| certainly be offput by the crap invasion and would have second and third
| thoughts as to your seriousness and dedication to your declared values.
|
| Anyway, as I said, my primary point was to WARN PEOPLE THAT MEB's SITE IS
| FULL OF INVASIVE CRAPWARE. That MEB is such a weasel that he can only say
| that it's not HIS site but his HOST's site that is doing the nasty, that
he
| has no control over that situation. Think about the logic in that last
| sentence and then ask yourself, "Just who is this MEB dude, really?"
|
| I've already answered that one, posted those answers a few times, and I've
| yet to see you prove me wrong. In fact, just the opposite, you continue to
| amaze me with your hypocrisies.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| http://grystmill.com
|
|
| >
| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:%23c5XbuZzIHA.5108@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | > DUHHHH, those aren't MY popups.... those come from the *free*
service.
| > | > Might
| > | > try only enabling popups from sites you actually want them from...
do
| > you
| > | > need some help configuring that, or do you think you can find that
| > | > information. Google would be your friend for this, do you know how
to
| > use
| > | > Google?
| > | >
| > | > IF you need help, start a new discussion and I'll walk you through
the
| > | > techniques and changes necessary...
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > --
| > | > _________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | > news:%23nTzTfZzIHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > | > | Those advertising pop-ups on your site suck big time. And, yes, I
| > know
| > | > how
| > | > | to block pop-ups, but then I have to turn the blocker off for when
I
| > | > need
| > | > | pop-ups, which is regularly. Fact is, my normal surfing these days
| > is
| > | > fairly
| > | > | popup-free except for the necessary ones. But your pop-ups are
| > | > particularly
| > | > | insidious. If you haven't actually experienced them, I suggest you
| > check
| > | > | them out.
| > | > |
| > | > | For someone so concerned about internet intrusions, you sure have
a
| > | > | hypocritical attitude about the advertising you use.
| > | > |
| > | > | For those of you caught in Maurice's pop-up problem, right-click
the
| > | > button
| > | > | on the taskbar and close. Anything else will just lead to more
crap.
| > | > |
| > | > | And, Maurice, if the advertising is coming from orgfree.com, then
I
| > | > suggest
| > | > | that there are some quite inexpensive alternatives that include
your
| > own
| > | > | full domain name, etc. I pay ~$10/month for mine, but I could get
it
| > for
| > | > a
| > | > | LOT less if I were in the mood to switch. (here, for instance
| > | > | http://hosting.aplus.net/) I am secure in the knowledge that I am
in
| > | > total
| > | > | control of the content my can visitors receive (though, of course,
| > | > whether
| > | > | they want to see the content or not is up to them.) One thing I
| > | > *certainly*
| > | > | wouldn't countenance is that crap on your site.
| > | > |
| > | > | --
| > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > | http://grystmill.com
| > | > |
| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | news:uhaQ6MZzIHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | > | >
| > | > | > After searching around for DUN/VPN server issues, I thought
maybe
| > a
| > | > web
| > | > | > page might be in order.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/dun_vpn_diag.htm
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > _________
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
Alright Gary, you want the gloves off,, okay, I can handle that.
So tell this group in your infinite wisdom why you are so friggin ignorant
that you fail to understand how and why you block all this crap being shoved
down the throats of the users on the Web... come on hot shot, explain WHY
you think all of this is good,,,, tell us all about how YOU secure your
systems.
By the way, just what is it that you have done recently for the good of
mankind... I'll wait for several years for you to dream up some kind of
story.. what VALUE do you have to mankind, what's your purpose on this
planet... I realize you have value to the dog world,, but hey, there's a lot
of other animals out there...
As for my site,, its ranked and indexed,, move it again [as was done
because of the last idiots running that prior service] and all that's
gone... so how's you site doing Gary? Want some more help with making your
web pages???
Hypocrite for security? Hardly. I happen to have directed to various
security issues ON the site... and **repeatedly** IN this group. So when
have you done that recently? Or is this dumb little tirade your vain
attempt.
Go take your pills Gary, and find Dan, I think you guys need to help each
other...
--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%23JEm8KezIHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:OodnLtdzIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| >
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > news:eHRcd5ZzIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | 1. I know they aren't yours, I said as much. But now it's clear that
you
| > | will willingly trade with your enemy in order to save a few bucks.
| > Surely
| > | you can find a free service with higher moral standards.
| > |
| > | 2. I don't know ahead of time which sites I go to use pop-ups. Some
that
| > I'm
| > | accustomed to using change their procedures to using them. I so seldom
| > have
| > | problems with pop-ups that I simply turn them off for sites that can't
| > stop
| > | after one. Or remember to never go there again. Even the major
| > commercial
| > | sites that use them for simple advertising, don't make them of the
| > "can't
| > | close", endless pop-ups variety. Those types are reserved to the ninth
| > | circle of hell.
| > |
| > | In any case, for those of us who think YOU are responsible for
whatever
| > | tries to get into our computers when we go to YOUR site, I thought the
| > | warning was warranted.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | http://grystmill.com
| > |
| >
| >
| > Well, then you haven't been party to any of the discussions with the
| > service
| > operators, have you... gees I even posted indication of this several
times
| > in this group..
|
| What's that, some excuse? Do you think I read every word you post? What do
| you say, "Beware of my site, it has nasty stuff." You certainly don't put
| that disclaimer on every one of your posts (which all have at least one
link
| to your site.)
|
| And who are these "service operators"? If you're hinting at some
fine-print
| weasel out... I'm talking about YOU, Maurice, the self-annointed Pope of
| security in this group. You don't feel just a little bit icky trading your
| soul and selling your your site to purveyors of such objectionable crap,
| crap that's totally rare outside the sex sites these days? I know, because
I
| leave my pop-up blocker off an go to all kinds of free sites, drivers
| downloads, etc. I even click on the sex links every once in a while to see
| what they're up to. The one I got at your site today is one I haven't seen
| in a couple of years. Probably because it turned out not to get positive
| results.
|
| > Just as YOU want everything, right now, and don't care how you get it,
so
| > do the operators of that service... I find it quite amusing that you
| > continue to subject yourself to tracking cookies, popups, and other junk
| > which can easily be blocked by one who bothers to look for methods to do
| > so,
| > particularly as you are an MVP for the Windows OSs.
|
| You haven't the slightest idea what I do to protect myself. I'm perfectly
| well protected from anything getting into my machine that will cause me
any
| problems. Additionally, I keep TOTAL control of cookies, and I've already
| explained that contrary to your opinion, I find pop-ups to be
indispensible
| in a lot of places I go, and I HATE whitelists. I also don't have much
good
| to say for anyone who lumps all this stuff together as BAD when in many if
| not most cases outside the sex sites it works like it was intended to.
|
| > As for where else to put my site, seems most people are just like you
| > apparently are, when confronted with a pro bono site for which I have no
| > more intention to supply cost out of my own pocket, they feel they
should
| > make some type of money from it. I thought the materials relevant enough
| > to
| > put it in the public rather than as the limited VPN it was for years.
Not
| > that many people actually appreciate the site, since it deals with
reality
| > rather than daily junk, mindless ramblings, and misdirections based
| > largely
| > upon the thin air that seems to be what the video/TV/gaming/scripted
| > unreality public presently desires and gets lost in Seems the students
| > find
| > some of the materials useful, and the materials were used for awhile in
| > various courses offered, but then that would make them potentially as
the
| > apparently hated intellectuals in America.
| >
| > Soooo, if you want to stop the operators from doing what they are, why
not
| > drop them an email or two explaining your position on their service.
There
| > is a contact address for them on the main orgfree service page.
|
| Those last two paragraphs are unintelligible. Care to try again? You're
| saying that *I* want to make money from your site? That I make money from
| mine? What? And who cares who goes to your site and why? When you send
| people there from here, where you have a certain reputation, posting
CERTs,
| trying to get me any way you can to discuss comparative OSes especially
with
| regard to security (when it's obvious that I couldn't care less), one
would
| not expect the site to be so sleazy. If *I* were seriously interested in
| your writings (and I have read at least some of your stuff), I would
| certainly be offput by the crap invasion and would have second and third
| thoughts as to your seriousness and dedication to your declared values.
|
| Anyway, as I said, my primary point was to WARN PEOPLE THAT MEB's SITE IS
| FULL OF INVASIVE CRAPWARE. That MEB is such a weasel that he can only say
| that it's not HIS site but his HOST's site that is doing the nasty, that
he
| has no control over that situation. Think about the logic in that last
| sentence and then ask yourself, "Just who is this MEB dude, really?"
|
| I've already answered that one, posted those answers a few times, and I've
| yet to see you prove me wrong. In fact, just the opposite, you continue to
| amaze me with your hypocrisies.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| http://grystmill.com
|
|
| >
| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:%23c5XbuZzIHA.5108@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | > DUHHHH, those aren't MY popups.... those come from the *free*
service.
| > | > Might
| > | > try only enabling popups from sites you actually want them from...
do
| > you
| > | > need some help configuring that, or do you think you can find that
| > | > information. Google would be your friend for this, do you know how
to
| > use
| > | > Google?
| > | >
| > | > IF you need help, start a new discussion and I'll walk you through
the
| > | > techniques and changes necessary...
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > --
| > | > _________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | > news:%23nTzTfZzIHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > | > | Those advertising pop-ups on your site suck big time. And, yes, I
| > know
| > | > how
| > | > | to block pop-ups, but then I have to turn the blocker off for when
I
| > | > need
| > | > | pop-ups, which is regularly. Fact is, my normal surfing these days
| > is
| > | > fairly
| > | > | popup-free except for the necessary ones. But your pop-ups are
| > | > particularly
| > | > | insidious. If you haven't actually experienced them, I suggest you
| > check
| > | > | them out.
| > | > |
| > | > | For someone so concerned about internet intrusions, you sure have
a
| > | > | hypocritical attitude about the advertising you use.
| > | > |
| > | > | For those of you caught in Maurice's pop-up problem, right-click
the
| > | > button
| > | > | on the taskbar and close. Anything else will just lead to more
crap.
| > | > |
| > | > | And, Maurice, if the advertising is coming from orgfree.com, then
I
| > | > suggest
| > | > | that there are some quite inexpensive alternatives that include
your
| > own
| > | > | full domain name, etc. I pay ~$10/month for mine, but I could get
it
| > for
| > | > a
| > | > | LOT less if I were in the mood to switch. (here, for instance
| > | > | http://hosting.aplus.net/) I am secure in the knowledge that I am
in
| > | > total
| > | > | control of the content my can visitors receive (though, of course,
| > | > whether
| > | > | they want to see the content or not is up to them.) One thing I
| > | > *certainly*
| > | > | wouldn't countenance is that crap on your site.
| > | > |
| > | > | --
| > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > | http://grystmill.com
| > | > |
| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | news:uhaQ6MZzIHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | > | >
| > | > | > After searching around for DUN/VPN server issues, I thought
maybe
| > a
| > | > web
| > | > | > page might be in order.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/dun_vpn_diag.htm
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > _________
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
