Re: Problem using cell phone USB 3G connection with Win Vista 64b
Re: Problem using cell phone USB 3G connection with Win Vista 64b
X:
Tethered fones via USB are nothing more than a
USB modem that responds to std. AT commands
and the AT superset that controls digital data specifically.
That being the case, I wonder if ANY USB fone driver
might work for your fone IF you know how the properly
edit the .INF file for it.
All said "driver" would need to do is make the fone look
like a serial port. That's all. All the rest is handled by setting
up a Connection for it in Network Connections and then
issuing AT commands.
I don't run Vista any more (too many problems) but I wonder
if there are any USB modems in its internal list of modems that
you might be able to modify the .INF file for.
Just a thought if you're up to the challenge...
What exactly happens when you plug it in, anyway? What
errors do you get and what does it say about it in Device Manager?
"XammaX" <XammaX@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:23AFF269-0D77-44E6-BA92-11B8E2E2930E@microsoft.com...
> Hi Rocknc:
>
> I have not looked into purchasing a new cell phone. I don't have the money
> right now to do that. I think that is a concept that MS and LG don't
> understand.
>
> Hopefully you can find an economical phone that is compatable with Vista. I
> just hope that if you find a new phone that works with Vista now, that it
> will still work with Vista when they release Service Pack 2. It seems we
> should have no expectation that any hardware should work after software
> improvements.
>
> Max
> XammaX
>
>
> "Rocknc" wrote:
>
> > hello ; I have read about the problems you have had with Vista. I am having
> > the same problems with the MOBILE OFFICE drivers. It is time for upgrading
to
> > a new phone. Have you had any luck finding a reasonably priced basic phone
> > that is compatable with Vista and mobile office?
> >
> > "XammaX" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Patrick.
> > >
> > > Having been an electrical engineer for the past 12 years and a systems
> > > control engineer, the reasons for standards and specifications are clear.
In
> > > my industry, by the time we design a control system for a machine, procure
> > > the components, build the machine, test it, crate it, ship it, install it.
> > > debug it, commission it and turn it over to the customer, the hardware
(PC)
> > > is outdated already and the software is about three revs behind. But with
> > > all the documented testing (pharmaceutical), we can not change the
hardware
> > > or software since the system has been validated. So when we need to add
> > > something to the system, we can not just make these simple changes as
change
> > > drivers or update the hardware. It simply can not happen without taking
the
> > > system offline and doing validation testing again.
> > >
> > > Now, I know LG is not a player in the pharmaceutical field and it is
> > > practically their job to terminate support after two years or so on a
phone.
> > > That is what keeps them selling new phones.
> > >
> > > But I'd sure hope that when I buy my next computer, I won't have to buy a
> > > new external hard drive, printer, scanner, memory stick reader, etc.
These
> > > are all USB devices. Just like my cell phone.
> > >
> > > One other thing worth mentioning: I actually have been in companies that
> > > still have systems with 5.25" floppy discs for data backup. Most others
> > > still have 3.5" floppies. I have one of the last production HP notebook
> > > computers running XP that has a pentium processor and a 3.5" floppy drive
> > > built in. I have taken it to customer sites instead of my work notebook
so I
> > > don't have to carry an external USB 3.5" floppy drive with me. Other
> > > controller communication interfaces require an actual 9-pin serial port.
A
> > > USB to 9-pin adaptor will not work. We have had to buy a PCMCIA true
serial
> > > port in order to connect newer notebook computers to controllers and
operator
> > > interfaces and even some of those are not 100% compatable.
> > >
> > > Just imagine if the power companies changed the frequency from 60Hz to
> > > something else every five or ten years and you had to go and purhase all
new
> > > appliences for your home because the old ones would not work.
> > >
> > > I would think that once the IEEE standard for USB communication was set,
> > > that the operating systems and connected devices would follow that
> > > communication standard. It doesn't bother me that the hardware gets
better
> > > and the operating software gets better (or does it?), but sooner or later,
> > > communication and interface protocals must remain constant or backward
> > > compatable. Technology is changing too rapidly for this not to be the
case.
> > >
> > > So, even though we have had the discussion regarding my issue with my cell
> > > phone and I know LG has no intention of writing any drivers for Vista,
when
> > > you plug a telephone RJ-11 connector into your computer modem and want to
> > > dial out or FAX, I'd think you would expect it to work. Wouldn't you? I
> > > guess that is my argument and I'm just going to have to stew about it for
a
> > > while, because until I purchase a new cell phone and a new 2-year
contract, I
> > > won't have connectivity with the new Vista machine.
> > >
> > > Thanks for all of the comments and suggestions.
> > >
> > > Max
> > >
> > > XammaX
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Patrick Keenan" wrote:
> > >
> > > > "XammaX" <XammaX@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:598B0124-049C-4227-AD03-758ABE5F7DDF@microsoft.com...
> > > > > Thanks everyone for the prompt responses.
> > > > > When I was in school, a serial connection was two wires and Ones and
> > > > > Zeros.
> > > > > I guess USB might stand for Uncompatable Software Blunder and not a
> > > > > physical
> > > > > format of hardware connection. I guess planned obsolescence is always
> > > > > part
> > > > > of technology.
> > > > >
> > > > > I just find it hard to believe that a new OS would not be backward
> > > > > compatable.
> > > >
> > > > Why must it be?
> > > >
> > > > > I'd almost bet that Vista will run DOS applications
> > > >
> > > > You might very well be wrong. Vista cannot install apps that use
16-bit
> > > > installers.
> > > >
> > > > > but not a 4
> > > > > year old cell phone. hahaha I'm still getting 6-10 Meg of updates
for my
> > > > > XP
> > > > > every week or so. "Knowledge Base" is a cute way of saying, "Oooops!"
> > > >
> > > > An OS is an extremely complex work. If you find one with no KB and no
> > > > updates, it's because it's dead in the water.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps Bill Gates
> > > >
> > > > Why not LG?
> > > >
> > > > > can put a few of his guys and gals on a program to come
> > > > > up with solutions that get posted on this site to help out some of us
that
> > > > > are a bit less financially fortunate than he is. If I could rush out
and
> > > > > buy
> > > > > a new cell phone just to fix a Vista software/driver incompatability
> > > > > problem,
> > > > > I would.
> > > >
> > > > The repsonsibility could very well lie with LG. *They* are the ones
who
> > > > write the drivers for their systems and devices. MS does not.
> > > >
> > > > > Kind of like trading in a car for a new one because it's time for
> > > > > an oil change. Can't justify it. My cell works better than a lot of
my
> > > > > friend's newer ones.
> > > >
> > > > Except for LG's apparently not having created drivers or firmware that
works
> > > > with Vista64, so that it can't work with your PC's OS. That is LG's
> > > > problem, not MS's.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again and I'm sure you'll see more of me on these discussion
groups
> > > > > when I start getting more into this new computer. I'm really not
looking
> > > > > forward to it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The point is that you have a responsibility to ensure that the hardware
you
> > > > need to use works with the OS. This information is very seldom secret.
> > > >
> > > > If the manufacturer makes an unsupported claim regarding compatibility,
> > > > that's another story entirely, but the user does have a due-diligence
> > > > requirement.
> > > >
> > > > HTH
> > > > -pk
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Max
> > > > >
> > > > > "XammaX" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I have an LG VX7000 cell phone and Verizon Wireless Mobile Office Kit
> > > > >> VERKULG7000 (USB to cell phone cable and software and drivers for
98SE,
> > > > >> 2000,
> > > > >> ME and XP. I currently use my cell phone on occasion on my HP
ZE5470US
> > > > >> notebook computer running Windows XP Pro SP3. I have no trouble
using
> > > > >> the 3G
> > > > >> connection or FAX/Modem connection with the cell connected to any USB
> > > > >> port on
> > > > >> the computer.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I just bought an HP DV9830US running Vista 64bit SP1. I plugged my
cell
> > > > >> phone to the cable and the cable into the USB port and Windows Vista
can
> > > > >> not
> > > > >> configure the phone as a modem. This is a huge problem for me since
I
> > > > >> occasionally need connectivity when free WiFi or other internet/phone
> > > > >> connection is not available.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I have been in contact with LG tech support and they say that the
cell
> > > > >> phone
> > > > >> may not be compatable with Vista. LG suggested contacting Verizon
> > > > >> Wireless.
> > > > >> I contacted Verizon Wireless today and they said that they have had
an
> > > > >> incredible amount of issues with all of their hardware and software
> > > > >> (especially music) related to Vista. Their tech and sales department
> > > > >> were
> > > > >> not really sure which direction to point me in. Of course, they
wanted
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> sell a phone with internet connectivity built in, which does not help
me
> > > > >> one
> > > > >> bit.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> As far as I am concerned, I am plugging in a USB device to be used as
a
> > > > >> modem. Doesn't matter what XP machine I plug it into, it seems to
work.
> > > > >> But
> > > > >> the Vista operating system does not want to recognize this USB modem
> > > > >> device
> > > > >> (cell phone). I have spent days chasing information by searching on
the
> > > > >> NET
> > > > >> with no success.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I really need a solution (simple and free) to getting this new
computer
> > > > >> with
> > > > >> Vista 64bit SP1 connected to the interenet and FAX using my cell
phone
> > > > >> exactly like I do with my XP Pro SP3 machine.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I have had a few other issues so far with the new Vista OS and so far
I
> > > > >> am
> > > > >> not impressed. I'll address those another time.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks for any help/solutions!
> > > >
> > > >