Multiple User Sessions

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Does anyone have experience with opening several dozen sessions under the
same user account? I do not have a test network, for use, to observe if there
will be any sort of degradation, or other problem. I work in an educational
environment. Each classroom has one user login name. There will be
approximately 30 terminals in a classroom.
Thanks.
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Re: Multiple User Sessions

Should not be a problem, provided that you have configured a
mandatory profile and no local printers.
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=?Utf-8?B?cm10aA==?= <rmth@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 13
jun 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Does anyone have experience with opening several dozen sessions
> under the same user account? I do not have a test network, for
> use, to observe if there will be any sort of degradation, or
> other problem. I work in an educational environment. Each
> classroom has one user login name. There will be approximately
> 30 terminals in a classroom. Thanks.
 
Re: Multiple User Sessions

I know we have had schools wanting to do the same thing and we run into
certain programs within the school environment where they would not work ran
this way and I would advise getting each user there own personal login.
There was some that would run ok but for the most part not and caused more
problems than it was worth. We ended up creating users for each student to
not run into this problem and also so they could have their own personal
folder on the data server for all their school work files and then we got
away from the issues that popped up from this. It made life much easier in
the long run. We created accounts and folders for the k through 12 and then
this follows them all through the time they are in school. I know when the
little people hit first grade or when they learn how to spell their name is
when they start teaching them how to use the computers and how to login and
use the TS Servers and the apps we have on there for them.

Roger Crawford
HTS

"rmth" <rmth@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Does anyone have experience with opening several dozen sessions under the
> same user account? I do not have a test network, for use, to observe if
> there
> will be any sort of degradation, or other problem. I work in an
> educational
> environment. Each classroom has one user login name. There will be
> approximately 30 terminals in a classroom.
> Thanks.
> --
> rmth
 
Re: Multiple User Sessions

Please keep in mind that when you have multiple sessions from same user
account that are used by different persons, this also means that each
session has full control over other sessions.
Since you mention this is a school environment, potentially their will be
students making unwanted actions on other sessions that are currently being
used by other students, such as remote control, send solicited messages
(like sharing answers/solutions, gossips etc), end process, logoff, etc.
Thanks
Soo Kuan


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"Roger Crawford" <rcrawford@nospam.scci.com> wrote in message
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>I know we have had schools wanting to do the same thing and we run into
>certain programs within the school environment where they would not work
>ran this way and I would advise getting each user there own personal login.
>There was some that would run ok but for the most part not and caused more
>problems than it was worth. We ended up creating users for each student to
>not run into this problem and also so they could have their own personal
>folder on the data server for all their school work files and then we got
>away from the issues that popped up from this. It made life much easier in
>the long run. We created accounts and folders for the k through 12 and then
>this follows them all through the time they are in school. I know when the
>little people hit first grade or when they learn how to spell their name is
>when they start teaching them how to use the computers and how to login and
>use the TS Servers and the apps we have on there for them.
>
> Roger Crawford
> HTS
>
> "rmth" <rmth@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:00E6BEE6-265E-4416-9DDB-FC0472451A5E@microsoft.com...
>> Does anyone have experience with opening several dozen sessions under the
>> same user account? I do not have a test network, for use, to observe if
>> there
>> will be any sort of degradation, or other problem. I work in an
>> educational
>> environment. Each classroom has one user login name. There will be
>> approximately 30 terminals in a classroom.
>> Thanks.
>> --
>> rmth
>
 
Re: Multiple User Sessions

Thank you for your info. Could you direct me to the article\paper regarding,
"multiple sessions from same user account, that are used by different
persons, having full control of the other sessions"? I've not found any
documentation on this, yet.
Thank you very much.
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rmth


"Soo Kuan Teo [MSFT]" wrote:

> Please keep in mind that when you have multiple sessions from same user
> account that are used by different persons, this also means that each
> session has full control over other sessions.
> Since you mention this is a school environment, potentially their will be
> students making unwanted actions on other sessions that are currently being
> used by other students, such as remote control, send solicited messages
> (like sharing answers/solutions, gossips etc), end process, logoff, etc.
> Thanks
> Soo Kuan
>
>
> --
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> "Roger Crawford" <rcrawford@nospam.scci.com> wrote in message
> news:67A5E01F-4F04-4E10-956E-CF9CEF3763F4@microsoft.com...
> >I know we have had schools wanting to do the same thing and we run into
> >certain programs within the school environment where they would not work
> >ran this way and I would advise getting each user there own personal login.
> >There was some that would run ok but for the most part not and caused more
> >problems than it was worth. We ended up creating users for each student to
> >not run into this problem and also so they could have their own personal
> >folder on the data server for all their school work files and then we got
> >away from the issues that popped up from this. It made life much easier in
> >the long run. We created accounts and folders for the k through 12 and then
> >this follows them all through the time they are in school. I know when the
> >little people hit first grade or when they learn how to spell their name is
> >when they start teaching them how to use the computers and how to login and
> >use the TS Servers and the apps we have on there for them.
> >
> > Roger Crawford
> > HTS
> >
> > "rmth" <rmth@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:00E6BEE6-265E-4416-9DDB-FC0472451A5E@microsoft.com...
> >> Does anyone have experience with opening several dozen sessions under the
> >> same user account? I do not have a test network, for use, to observe if
> >> there
> >> will be any sort of degradation, or other problem. I work in an
> >> educational
> >> environment. Each classroom has one user login name. There will be
> >> approximately 30 terminals in a classroom.
> >> Thanks.
> >> --
> >> rmth
> >
>
>
 
Re: Multiple User Sessions

I doubt that this is explicitly documented, since it goes without
saying.
From the Terminal Server's point of view, all sessions belong to the
same user, and a user always has complete control over his own
sessions.

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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=?Utf-8?B?cm10aA==?= <rmth@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 19
jun 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Thank you for your info. Could you direct me to the
> article\paper regarding, "multiple sessions from same user
> account, that are used by different persons, having full control
> of the other sessions"? I've not found any documentation on
> this, yet. Thank you very much.
 
Re: Multiple User Sessions

I've tested using one user account logging into the same TS in two separate
sessions. They did share the same My Documents folder, which is a redirected
folder. However, I could not figure out how to send a message to the other
user, end the other user's process, or logoff the other user. Being the two
sessions have their own memory space for processes and such, how would I test
this? Thank you.
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rmth


"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> I doubt that this is explicitly documented, since it goes without
> saying.
> From the Terminal Server's point of view, all sessions belong to the
> same user, and a user always has complete control over his own
> sessions.
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> =?Utf-8?B?cm10aA==?= <rmth@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 19
> jun 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
> > Thank you for your info. Could you direct me to the
> > article\paper regarding, "multiple sessions from same user
> > account, that are used by different persons, having full control
> > of the other sessions"? I've not found any documentation on
> > this, yet. Thank you very much.
>
 
Re: Multiple User Sessions

Well, one method is to check which sessions are running on the
server, with the qwinsta or query user command, and then simply
connect to any session running under the same user name, with the
tscon command. The original session will be disconnected and taken
over by the other session, including all running applications.

Terminal Services Command Reference
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/library/2f371848-
5c48-470c-908c-afbc95d3a8051033.mspx?mfr=true
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

=?Utf-8?B?cm10aA==?= <rmth@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 19
jun 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> I've tested using one user account logging into the same TS in
> two separate sessions. They did share the same My Documents
> folder, which is a redirected folder. However, I could not
> figure out how to send a message to the other user, end the
> other user's process, or logoff the other user. Being the two
> sessions have their own memory space for processes and such, how
> would I test this? Thank you.
 
Re: Multiple User Sessions

Thank you. I appreciate the information
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rmth


"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> Well, one method is to check which sessions are running on the
> server, with the qwinsta or query user command, and then simply
> connect to any session running under the same user name, with the
> tscon command. The original session will be disconnected and taken
> over by the other session, including all running applications.
>
> Terminal Services Command Reference
> http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/library/2f371848-
> 5c48-470c-908c-afbc95d3a8051033.mspx?mfr=true
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> =?Utf-8?B?cm10aA==?= <rmth@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 19
> jun 2008 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
> > I've tested using one user account logging into the same TS in
> > two separate sessions. They did share the same My Documents
> > folder, which is a redirected folder. However, I could not
> > figure out how to send a message to the other user, end the
> > other user's process, or logoff the other user. Being the two
> > sessions have their own memory space for processes and such, how
> > would I test this? Thank you.
>
 
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