Re: Backup software--like GHOST

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Re: Backup software--like GHOST

This time I'll try to copy and paste the 'References' field in here:

Bill in Co. wrote:
> Interesting. I couldn't reply directly to Rick's message without getting
> this error message: ill-formed message id in field 'References' (which
> shows a lengthy line of a hodgepodge of characters (but maybe it
> always does?)
>
> It was an EXTREMELY LONG LINE, and then, somewhat suspiciously, had the
> last caret symbol ">" spaced over somehow.


Let's see if I can post it here:

References: <#uhpPPRvIHA.1688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
<OsdUNS5wIHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
<OX5Db$5wIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
<#XKswy6wIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
<u1LWpvBxIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
<ulbDmWDxIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
<#eBZ5mFxIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
<eARH$hRxIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
<ejpThhUxIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
<#mLa5EexIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
<#hpxm6fxIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
<eAgAkwgxIHA.4268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
<u#GMwRhxIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
<ea1pNyhxIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
<e0DdIvnxIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
<OndIFfqxIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
<#RQCZorxIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
<eRUDt1txIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
<eb7k9B0yIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
<ucUcmn2yIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
<#f7#KW5yIHA.5816@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
<OovKpQDzIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
<#c8Pd6EzIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
<OxpQUwRzIHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
<uA770mizIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl
>


OK, that was what the 'References' thing contained.

> So I had to copy and paste what I had typed out here into a new container
> (replying to a previous post of mine, but where I removed all the old
> text).
> WTF??
>
> More below - finally!
>
> Rick Chauvin wrote:
>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>
>> [....]
>>
>>> When you install something big (or even a normal program), a new restore
>>> point is *automatically created* - in case you should want to reverse or
>>> undo what the new program installation did to your system. Which is a
>>> nice feature of System Restore. :-)

>>
>> I don't like to use System Restore at all for a number of reasons -
>> actually first thing upon installation I did was to shut the dang thing
>> off
>> (among a hundred other things). I strictly use Imaging instead which imho
>> is by far better.

>
> And it is, of course. But it's easier and much quicker to use System
> Restore (or even ERUNT) for less intrusive changes (even more so for
> ERUNT).
>
> I see it as having, and conveniently using the right tool for the right
> job;
> why use a sledge hammer to pound a nail? :-)
>
>> Anyway, you guys are still keeping this thread alive? ! ..what in
>> heavens
>> are you both talking about - there's no way I can read through these
>> threads to figure it out - but I think yous must be just coffee visiting
>> here every day is all.
>>
>> Rick

>
> Hey Rick, it's just some of us old timer's, old school values of patience
> and perseverance.... :-)
>
> (I know, I know, it seems that all went out with FDR, but, some of us are
> still trying to keep it alive). :-)
 
Re: Backup software--like GHOST

Re: Backup software--like GHOST

Bill in Co. wrote:
| This time I'll try to copy and paste the 'References' field in here:
|
| Bill in Co. wrote:
|> Interesting. I couldn't reply directly to Rick's message without
|> getting this error message: ill-formed message id in field
|> 'References' (which shows a lengthy line of a hodgepodge of
|> characters (but maybe it
|> always does?)
|>
|> It was an EXTREMELY LONG LINE, and then, somewhat suspiciously, had
|> the last caret symbol ">" spaced over somehow.
|
| Let's see if I can post it here:
|
| References: <#uhpPPRvIHA.1688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
| <OsdUNS5wIHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
| <OX5Db$5wIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
| <#XKswy6wIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
| <u1LWpvBxIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
| <ulbDmWDxIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
| <#eBZ5mFxIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
| <eARH$hRxIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
| <ejpThhUxIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
| <#mLa5EexIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
| <#hpxm6fxIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
| <eAgAkwgxIHA.4268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
| <u#GMwRhxIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
| <ea1pNyhxIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
| <e0DdIvnxIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
| <OndIFfqxIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
| <#RQCZorxIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
| <eRUDt1txIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
| <eb7k9B0yIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
| <ucUcmn2yIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
| <#f7#KW5yIHA.5816@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
| <OovKpQDzIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
| <#c8Pd6EzIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
| <OxpQUwRzIHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
| <uA770mizIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl
| >
|
| OK, that was what the 'References' thing contained.

Yep. That's the problem. Here is the error message such a thing gives...

Outlook Express could not post your message. Subject 'Re: Backup
software--like GHOST', Account: 'msnews.microsoft.com', Server:
'127.0.0.1', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '441 (629) Article
Rejected -- Ill-formed message id
'<#6LIH1czIHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl' in field 'References:'', Port:
119, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 441, Error Number: 0x800CCCA9

|> So I had to copy and paste what I had typed out here into a new
|> container (replying to a previous post of mine, but where I removed
|> all the old text).

Yep. That's what I do.

|> WTF??

It's a limitation of OE, possibly meaning to limit our gabbiness-- I
said!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
Re: Backup software--like GHOST

Re: Backup software--like GHOST

PCR wrote:
> Bill in Co. wrote:
>> This time I'll try to copy and paste the 'References' field in here:
>>
>> Bill in Co. wrote:
>>> Interesting. I couldn't reply directly to Rick's message without
>>> getting this error message: ill-formed message id in field
>>> 'References' (which shows a lengthy line of a hodgepodge of
>>> characters (but maybe it always does?)
>>>
>>> It was an EXTREMELY LONG LINE, and then, somewhat suspiciously, had
>>> the last caret symbol ">" spaced over somehow.

>>
>> Let's see if I can post it here:
>>
>> References: <#uhpPPRvIHA.1688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>> <OsdUNS5wIHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>> <OX5Db$5wIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
>> <#XKswy6wIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
>> <u1LWpvBxIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>> <ulbDmWDxIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>> <#eBZ5mFxIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
>> <eARH$hRxIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
>> <ejpThhUxIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>> <#mLa5EexIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
>> <#hpxm6fxIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>> <eAgAkwgxIHA.4268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>> <u#GMwRhxIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
>> <ea1pNyhxIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
>> <e0DdIvnxIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>> <OndIFfqxIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
>> <#RQCZorxIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
>> <eRUDt1txIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>> <eb7k9B0yIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
>> <ucUcmn2yIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>> <#f7#KW5yIHA.5816@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>> <OovKpQDzIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
>> <#c8Pd6EzIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>> <OxpQUwRzIHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>> <uA770mizIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl
>> >

>>
>> OK, that was what the 'References' thing contained.

>
> Yep. That's the problem. Here is the error message such a thing gives...
>
> Outlook Express could not post your message. Subject 'Re: Backup
> software--like GHOST', Account: 'msnews.microsoft.com', Server:
> '127.0.0.1', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '441 (629) Article
> Rejected -- Ill-formed message id
> '<#6LIH1czIHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl' in field 'References:'', Port:
> 119, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 441, Error Number: 0x800CCCA9
>
>>> So I had to copy and paste what I had typed out here into a new
>>> container (replying to a previous post of mine, but where I removed
>>> all the old text).

>
> Yep. That's what I do.
>
>>> WTF??

>
> It's a limitation of OE, possibly meaning to limit our gabbiness-- I
> said!


You seem to be suggesting it relates to the length of the post, but I don't
think that's it.
I think I even tried shortening the message a bit and that didn't do
anything.
I have no idea about this 'References' field thing, though, and why it looks
like that, or even what it is. But I'm not so sure it simply relates to
the length of the message. I think there is more to it than that.
 
Re: Backup software--like GHOST

Re: Backup software--like GHOST

Bill in Co. wrote:
| PCR wrote:
|> Bill in Co. wrote:
|>> This time I'll try to copy and paste the 'References' field in here:
|>>
|>> Bill in Co. wrote:
|>>> Interesting. I couldn't reply directly to Rick's message without
|>>> getting this error message: ill-formed message id in field
|>>> 'References' (which shows a lengthy line of a hodgepodge of
|>>> characters (but maybe it always does?)
|>>>
|>>> It was an EXTREMELY LONG LINE, and then, somewhat suspiciously, had
|>>> the last caret symbol ">" spaced over somehow.
|>>
|>> Let's see if I can post it here:
|>>
|>> References: <#uhpPPRvIHA.1688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
|>> <OsdUNS5wIHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
|>> <OX5Db$5wIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
|>> <#XKswy6wIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
|>> <u1LWpvBxIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
|>> <ulbDmWDxIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
|>> <#eBZ5mFxIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
|>> <eARH$hRxIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
|>> <ejpThhUxIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
|>> <#mLa5EexIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
|>> <#hpxm6fxIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
|>> <eAgAkwgxIHA.4268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
|>> <u#GMwRhxIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
|>> <ea1pNyhxIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
|>> <e0DdIvnxIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
|>> <OndIFfqxIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
|>> <#RQCZorxIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
|>> <eRUDt1txIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
|>> <eb7k9B0yIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
|>> <ucUcmn2yIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
|>> <#f7#KW5yIHA.5816@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
|>> <OovKpQDzIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
|>> <#c8Pd6EzIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
|>> <OxpQUwRzIHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
|>> <uA770mizIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl
|>> >
|>>
|>> OK, that was what the 'References' thing contained.
|>
|> Yep. That's the problem. Here is the error message such a thing
|> gives...
|>
|> Outlook Express could not post your message. Subject 'Re: Backup
|> software--like GHOST', Account: 'msnews.microsoft.com', Server:
|> '127.0.0.1', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '441 (629) Article
|> Rejected -- Ill-formed message id
|> '<#6LIH1czIHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl' in field 'References:'',
|> Port: 119, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 441, Error Number:
|> 0x800CCCA9
|>
|>>> So I had to copy and paste what I had typed out here into a new
|>>> container (replying to a previous post of mine, but where I removed
|>>> all the old text).
|>
|> Yep. That's what I do.
|>
|>>> WTF??
|>
|> It's a limitation of OE, possibly meaning to limit our gabbiness-- I
|> said!
|
| You seem to be suggesting it relates to the length of the post, but I
| don't think that's it.
| I think I even tried shortening the message a bit and that didn't do
| anything.
| I have no idea about this 'References' field thing, though, and why
| it looks like that, or even what it is. But I'm not so sure it
| simply relates to the length of the message. I think there is more
| to it than that.

I may have been unclear I guess, but I always meant to say the NUMBER of
posts at a single thread segment was what does it. Each succeeding post
adds to that References field, I'm sure. Then, you have to move up in
the thread to solve it, as you know. You can stay in the same segment,
but must move up.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
Re: Backup software--like GHOST

Re: Backup software--like GHOST

PCR wrote:
> Bill in Co. wrote:
>> PCR wrote:
>>> Bill in Co. wrote:
>>>> This time I'll try to copy and paste the 'References' field in here:
>>>>
>>>> Bill in Co. wrote:
>>>>> Interesting. I couldn't reply directly to Rick's message without
>>>>> getting this error message: ill-formed message id in field
>>>>> 'References' (which shows a lengthy line of a hodgepodge of
>>>>> characters (but maybe it always does?)
>>>>>
>>>>> It was an EXTREMELY LONG LINE, and then, somewhat suspiciously, had
>>>>> the last caret symbol ">" spaced over somehow.
>>>>
>>>> Let's see if I can post it here:
>>>>
>>>> References: <#uhpPPRvIHA.1688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>>>> <OsdUNS5wIHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>>>> <OX5Db$5wIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
>>>> <#XKswy6wIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
>>>> <u1LWpvBxIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>>>> <ulbDmWDxIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>>>> <#eBZ5mFxIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
>>>> <eARH$hRxIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
>>>> <ejpThhUxIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>>>> <#mLa5EexIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
>>>> <#hpxm6fxIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>>>> <eAgAkwgxIHA.4268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>>>> <u#GMwRhxIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
>>>> <ea1pNyhxIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
>>>> <e0DdIvnxIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>>>> <OndIFfqxIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
>>>> <#RQCZorxIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
>>>> <eRUDt1txIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>>>> <eb7k9B0yIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
>>>> <ucUcmn2yIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>>>> <#f7#KW5yIHA.5816@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>>>> <OovKpQDzIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
>>>> <#c8Pd6EzIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>>>> <OxpQUwRzIHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>>>> <uA770mizIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> OK, that was what the 'References' thing contained.
>>>
>>> Yep. That's the problem. Here is the error message such a thing
>>> gives...
>>>
>>> Outlook Express could not post your message. Subject 'Re: Backup
>>> software--like GHOST', Account: 'msnews.microsoft.com', Server:
>>> '127.0.0.1', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '441 (629) Article
>>> Rejected -- Ill-formed message id
>>> '<#6LIH1czIHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl' in field 'References:'',
>>> Port: 119, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 441, Error Number:
>>> 0x800CCCA9
>>>
>>>>> So I had to copy and paste what I had typed out here into a new
>>>>> container (replying to a previous post of mine, but where I removed
>>>>> all the old text).
>>>
>>> Yep. That's what I do.
>>>
>>>>> WTF??
>>>
>>> It's a limitation of OE, possibly meaning to limit our gabbiness-- I
>>> said!

>>
>> You seem to be suggesting it relates to the length of the post, but I
>> don't think that's it.
>> I think I even tried shortening the message a bit and that didn't do
>> anything.
>> I have no idea about this 'References' field thing, though, and why
>> it looks like that, or even what it is. But I'm not so sure it
>> simply relates to the length of the message. I think there is more
>> to it than that.

>
> I may have been unclear I guess, but I always meant to say the NUMBER of
> posts at a single thread segment was what does it. Each succeeding post
> adds to that References field, I'm sure. Then, you have to move up in
> the thread to solve it, as you know. You can stay in the same segment,
> but must move up.


What does that mean? Does that mean you have to respond to an earlier
post in the same thread? I guess that's what you mean. And that
responding to any later posts will start the problem up again? But the
whole thing seems so stupid!!
 
Re: Backup software--like GHOST

Re: Backup software--like GHOST

Bill in Co. wrote:
| PCR wrote:
|> Bill in Co. wrote:
|>> PCR wrote:
|>>> Bill in Co. wrote:
|>>>> This time I'll try to copy and paste the 'References' field in
|>>>> here:
|>>>>
|>>>> Bill in Co. wrote:
|>>>>> Interesting. I couldn't reply directly to Rick's message
|>>>>> without getting this error message: ill-formed message id in
|>>>>> field 'References' (which shows a lengthy line of a hodgepodge of
|>>>>> characters (but maybe it always does?)
|>>>>>
|>>>>> It was an EXTREMELY LONG LINE, and then, somewhat suspiciously,
|>>>>> had the last caret symbol ">" spaced over somehow.
|>>>>
|>>>> Let's see if I can post it here:
|>>>>
|>>>> References: <#uhpPPRvIHA.1688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <OsdUNS5wIHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <OX5Db$5wIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <#XKswy6wIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <u1LWpvBxIHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <ulbDmWDxIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <#eBZ5mFxIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <eARH$hRxIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <ejpThhUxIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <#mLa5EexIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <#hpxm6fxIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <eAgAkwgxIHA.4268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <u#GMwRhxIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <ea1pNyhxIHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <e0DdIvnxIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <OndIFfqxIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <#RQCZorxIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <eRUDt1txIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <eb7k9B0yIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <ucUcmn2yIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <#f7#KW5yIHA.5816@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <OovKpQDzIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <#c8Pd6EzIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <OxpQUwRzIHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
|>>>> <uA770mizIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl
|>>>> >
|>>>>
|>>>> OK, that was what the 'References' thing contained.
|>>>
|>>> Yep. That's the problem. Here is the error message such a thing
|>>> gives...
|>>>
|>>> Outlook Express could not post your message. Subject 'Re: Backup
|>>> software--like GHOST', Account: 'msnews.microsoft.com', Server:
|>>> '127.0.0.1', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '441 (629) Article
|>>> Rejected -- Ill-formed message id
|>>> '<#6LIH1czIHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl' in field 'References:'',
|>>> Port: 119, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 441, Error Number:
|>>> 0x800CCCA9
|>>>
|>>>>> So I had to copy and paste what I had typed out here into a new
|>>>>> container (replying to a previous post of mine, but where I
|>>>>> removed all the old text).
|>>>
|>>> Yep. That's what I do.
|>>>
|>>>>> WTF??
|>>>
|>>> It's a limitation of OE, possibly meaning to limit our gabbiness--
|>>> I said!
|>>
|>> You seem to be suggesting it relates to the length of the post, but
|>> I don't think that's it.
|>> I think I even tried shortening the message a bit and that didn't do
|>> anything.
|>> I have no idea about this 'References' field thing, though, and why
|>> it looks like that, or even what it is. But I'm not so sure it
|>> simply relates to the length of the message. I think there is more
|>> to it than that.
|>
|> I may have been unclear I guess, but I always meant to say the
|> NUMBER of posts at a single thread segment was what does it. Each
|> succeeding post adds to that References field, I'm sure. Then, you
|> have to move up in the thread to solve it, as you know. You can stay
|> in the same segment, but must move up.
|
| What does that mean? Does that mean you have to respond to an
| earlier post in the same thread? I guess that's what you mean. And
| that responding to any later posts will start the problem up again?
| But the whole thing seems so stupid!!

Yes. Instead of replying to the one that caused the problem, go up TWO
in the same string. No need to go a different string in the same thread
or higher than two. Going up two, the other guy can respond to your
response, before you need to move it up again. HOWEVER, because of the
confusion in following the thread-- it possibly is best to run out of
conversation before that point is reached!

There has to be a limit to all things. That References field can't grow
forever.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
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