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Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?

I speak with them and I hear gobbledigook from them about Linux
that bears no relation to The Linux Desktop Experience or to
the Linux Server Experience.

However it does seem to have 100% correlation with
Micoshaft funded fraudsters and asstroturfers selling
Anti-Linux FUD in COLA and their pro-micoshaft posted articles.

All this marketing is not being shovelled just into COLA
but the wider world of 100% controlled puppet journals and press coverage.

A few minutes talking to these IT RETARDS often
clears their mind and the opens their eyes to wanting
to install Linux immediately giving it their best
to have a go.

What brings about this change?

1. Demo of a liveCD or two, and doing an install or two.
2. Demo of virtualisation with windummy OSen running in Qemu or in
   Virtual Box playing music
3. Demonstration of compiz and translucent cube desktops on
   machines that 
4. Demo of ssh in tabbed browser in Konqueror transferring
   files over the live internet.
5. Remote ssh and running X server remotedly for just
   applications.
6. Burning a 4GB DVD with 14,000 files and AT THE SAME TIME
   copying a 2Gb file into THE SAME HARD DISK, and playing 
   uniterrupted music.
7. Demo of packages like QCad, K3b, K-3D, X-maxima, Open Office
   handling a 160 page photo file with 2 photos per page and
   each photo is 1600x1200, rsync, smb4k, Nexuiz, Torc, Gambas2,
   gimp, KSayit, streamtuner, higlight text viewers like
   kwrite and gedit, etc..

Micoshaft is sinking.
Google has earnings in the same order of magnitude as Micoshaft
and therefore Micoshaft and what they say are no longer THAT important.

It is entirely within the power of Micoshaft Marketing Department
to scale their activities and show some respect for IT admins.
IT admins have lives to lead and users to look after.
Some users are involved in making a lot of money for companies
or involved in dangerous work, and it is essential they
get the best service from their IT Admins - and that is through Linux.

Linux owns the fastest desktop and fastest desktop applications.
There is no point in trying to fool IT Admins.

Micoshaft desktop on the other hand has highest probability
of virus, malware, spyware and troject infection risk and more
of these malware software is released PER DAY than ALL of the
Micoshaft engineers and ALL of the Micoshaft Partners
and ALL of the Micoshaft anti-virus companies can release fixes in a day.
IT Admins need to be reminded of that every day so they
can switch to Linux. Not cover it up with Micoshaft Marketing
Department's marketing tactics that hope to delay
the inevitable finding out of the truth by IT Admins.

It is an utter sham that Micoshaft is Causing Retardation of IT Admins
through their program of anti-Linux FUD campaigns.

Linux users and admins need to get out and open the eyes
of these WINDUMMY retards by showing a thing or two about what Linux does
to counter micoshaft funded anti-Linux FUD through journals and press.
You will be surprised how quickly you can win over converts.
IT Admins are not as stupid as Micoshaft marketing believes they
are once their eyes are opened.

http://www.livecdlist.com
http://www.distrowatch.com
 
Re: Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?

NO- Microsoft isn't causing retardation of IT Administrators. The stupid
posts that "7" creates causes retardation in "7".


"7" <website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
news:zie5k.10006$E41.8728@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?
>
> I speak with them and I hear gobbledigook from them about Linux
> that bears no relation to The Linux Desktop Experience or to
> the Linux Server Experience.
>
> However it does seem to have 100% correlation with
> Micoshaft funded fraudsters and asstroturfers selling
> Anti-Linux FUD in COLA and their pro-micoshaft posted articles.
>
> All this marketing is not being shovelled just into COLA
> but the wider world of 100% controlled puppet journals and press coverage.
>
> A few minutes talking to these IT RETARDS often
> clears their mind and the opens their eyes to wanting
> to install Linux immediately giving it their best
> to have a go.
>
> What brings about this change?
>
> 1. Demo of a liveCD or two, and doing an install or two.
> 2. Demo of virtualisation with windummy OSen running in Qemu or in
> Virtual Box playing music
> 3. Demonstration of compiz and translucent cube desktops on
> machines that
> 4. Demo of ssh in tabbed browser in Konqueror transferring
> files over the live internet.
> 5. Remote ssh and running X server remotedly for just
> applications.
> 6. Burning a 4GB DVD with 14,000 files and AT THE SAME TIME
> copying a 2Gb file into THE SAME HARD DISK, and playing
> uniterrupted music.
> 7. Demo of packages like QCad, K3b, K-3D, X-maxima, Open Office
> handling a 160 page photo file with 2 photos per page and
> each photo is 1600x1200, rsync, smb4k, Nexuiz, Torc, Gambas2,
> gimp, KSayit, streamtuner, higlight text viewers like
> kwrite and gedit, etc..
>
> Micoshaft is sinking.
> Google has earnings in the same order of magnitude as Micoshaft
> and therefore Micoshaft and what they say are no longer THAT important.
>
> It is entirely within the power of Micoshaft Marketing Department
> to scale their activities and show some respect for IT admins.
> IT admins have lives to lead and users to look after.
> Some users are involved in making a lot of money for companies
> or involved in dangerous work, and it is essential they
> get the best service from their IT Admins - and that is through Linux.
>
> Linux owns the fastest desktop and fastest desktop applications.
> There is no point in trying to fool IT Admins.
>
> Micoshaft desktop on the other hand has highest probability
> of virus, malware, spyware and troject infection risk and more
> of these malware software is released PER DAY than ALL of the
> Micoshaft engineers and ALL of the Micoshaft Partners
> and ALL of the Micoshaft anti-virus companies can release fixes in a day.
> IT Admins need to be reminded of that every day so they
> can switch to Linux. Not cover it up with Micoshaft Marketing
> Department's marketing tactics that hope to delay
> the inevitable finding out of the truth by IT Admins.
>
> It is an utter sham that Micoshaft is Causing Retardation of IT Admins
> through their program of anti-Linux FUD campaigns.
>
> Linux users and admins need to get out and open the eyes
> of these WINDUMMY retards by showing a thing or two about what Linux does
> to counter micoshaft funded anti-Linux FUD through journals and press.
> You will be surprised how quickly you can win over converts.
> IT Admins are not as stupid as Micoshaft marketing believes they
> are once their eyes are opened.
>
> http://www.livecdlist.com
> http://www.distrowatch.com
 
Re: Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?

Micoshaft fraudster Linux7come11 wrote:

> 7 wrote:
>> Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?
>>
>> I speak with them and I hear gobbledigook from them about Linux
>> that bears no relation to The Linux Desktop Experience or to
>> the Linux Server Experience.
>>
>
> No one cares who you speak to 7, because you are retarded. You are
> nobody of importance in the grand scheme of things. You cross posting
> *clown* why do you cross post your BS? Yes, that's right. It's BS and
> you are restarted for making the post.


If this is the kind of response by Micoshaft Marketing
Department to SERIOUS deficiencies
of the Micoshaft desktop experience, then there is no hope
for Micoshaft investors in the company.

Micoshaft is sinking.
Google has same order of magnitude earnings as Micoshaft
so what Micoshaft's Marketing and their asstroturfers
say is no longer THAT important.

Linux now owns the fastest desktop and fastest desktop applications.
That is important!!
There is no point in trying to fool IT Admins.
The best thing about it is that anyone can download
and try with http://www.livecdlist.com
Something like Sabayon Linux or Knoppix or Ubuntu
should keep you busy with new and interesting software.
Something like SystemRescueCD is for PC repair.
DSL is for quickly booting PCs from a CD and backing
up over the network. All free and comes with source code.

Micoshaft desktop on the other hand has highest probability
of virus, malware, spyware and troject infection risk and more
of these malware software is released PER DAY than ALL of the
Micoshaft engineers and ALL of the Micoshaft Partners
and ALL of the Micoshaft anti-virus companies can release fixes in a day.
IT Admins need to be reminded of that every day so they
can switch to Linux. Not cover it up with Micoshaft Marketing
Department's marketing tactics that hope to delay
the inevitable finding out of the truth by IT Admins.

It is an utter sham that Micoshaft is Causing Retardation of IT Admins
through their program of anti-Linux FUD campaigns.

And Micoshaft Marketing through use of asstrotufers
continue to evade when confronted with increasingly serious issues.
 
Re: Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?

I think you're stuck on repeat here.

Maybe a good swift kick....nope that didn't work.

No signs of intelligent life :(

"7" <website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
news:ojf5k.10075$E41.252@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> Micoshaft fraudster Linux7come11 wrote:
>
>> 7 wrote:
>>> Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?
>>>
>>> I speak with them and I hear gobbledigook from them about Linux
>>> that bears no relation to The Linux Desktop Experience or to
>>> the Linux Server Experience.
>>>
>>
>> No one cares who you speak to 7, because you are retarded. You are
>> nobody of importance in the grand scheme of things. You cross posting
>> *clown* why do you cross post your BS? Yes, that's right. It's BS and
>> you are restarted for making the post.
>
>
> If this is the kind of response by Micoshaft Marketing
> Department to SERIOUS deficiencies
> of the Micoshaft desktop experience, then there is no hope
> for Micoshaft investors in the company.
>
> Micoshaft is sinking.
> Google has same order of magnitude earnings as Micoshaft
> so what Micoshaft's Marketing and their asstroturfers
> say is no longer THAT important.
>
> Linux now owns the fastest desktop and fastest desktop applications.
> That is important!!
> There is no point in trying to fool IT Admins.
> The best thing about it is that anyone can download
> and try with http://www.livecdlist.com
> Something like Sabayon Linux or Knoppix or Ubuntu
> should keep you busy with new and interesting software.
> Something like SystemRescueCD is for PC repair.
> DSL is for quickly booting PCs from a CD and backing
> up over the network. All free and comes with source code.
>
> Micoshaft desktop on the other hand has highest probability
> of virus, malware, spyware and troject infection risk and more
> of these malware software is released PER DAY than ALL of the
> Micoshaft engineers and ALL of the Micoshaft Partners
> and ALL of the Micoshaft anti-virus companies can release fixes in a day.
> IT Admins need to be reminded of that every day so they
> can switch to Linux. Not cover it up with Micoshaft Marketing
> Department's marketing tactics that hope to delay
> the inevitable finding out of the truth by IT Admins.
>
> It is an utter sham that Micoshaft is Causing Retardation of IT Admins
> through their program of anti-Linux FUD campaigns.
>
> And Micoshaft Marketing through use of asstrotufers
> continue to evade when confronted with increasingly serious issues.
>
>
 
Re: Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?


"7" <website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
news:ojf5k.10075$E41.252@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> Micoshaft fraudster Linux7come11 wrote:
>
>> 7 wrote:
>>> Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?
>>>
>>> I speak with them and I hear gobbledigook from them about Linux
>>> that bears no relation to The Linux Desktop Experience or to
>>> the Linux Server Experience.
>>>
>>
>> No one cares who you speak to 7, because you are retarded. You are
>> nobody of importance in the grand scheme of things. You cross posting
>> *clown* why do you cross post your BS? Yes, that's right. It's BS and
>> you are restarted for making the post.
>
>
> If this is the kind of response by Micoshaft Marketing
> Department to SERIOUS deficiencies
> of the Micoshaft desktop experience, then there is no hope
> for Micoshaft investors in the company.
>
> Micoshaft is sinking.
> Google has same order of magnitude earnings as Micoshaft
> so what Micoshaft's Marketing and their asstroturfers
> say is no longer THAT important.
>
> Linux now owns the fastest desktop and fastest desktop applications.
> That is important!!
> There is no point in trying to fool IT Admins.
> The best thing about it is that anyone can download
> and try with http://www.livecdlist.com
> Something like Sabayon Linux or Knoppix or Ubuntu
> should keep you busy with new and interesting software.
> Something like SystemRescueCD is for PC repair.
> DSL is for quickly booting PCs from a CD and backing
> up over the network. All free and comes with source code.
>
> Micoshaft desktop on the other hand has highest probability
> of virus, malware, spyware and troject infection risk and more
> of these malware software is released PER DAY than ALL of the
> Micoshaft engineers and ALL of the Micoshaft Partners
> and ALL of the Micoshaft anti-virus companies can release fixes in a day.
> IT Admins need to be reminded of that every day so they
> can switch to Linux. Not cover it up with Micoshaft Marketing
> Department's marketing tactics that hope to delay
> the inevitable finding out of the truth by IT Admins.
>
> It is an utter sham that Micoshaft is Causing Retardation of IT Admins
> through their program of anti-Linux FUD campaigns.
>
> And Micoshaft Marketing through use of asstrotufers
> continue to evade when confronted with increasingly serious issues.
>
>

It seems that Vista is probably too complicated for your tiny little brain.
Maybe you should use Ubuntu. Call Alias our Ubuntu retard and he can get
you set up. I'm sure you will need lots of help with Ubuntu also.
 
Re: Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?


"7" <website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
news:ojf5k.10075$E41.252@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> Micoshaft fraudster Linux7come11 wrote:
>
>> 7 wrote:
>>> Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?
> Linux now owns the fastest desktop and fastest desktop applications.
> That is important!!

No it isn't.
 
Re: Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?

Telstar wrote:

>
> "7" <website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
> news:ojf5k.10075$E41.252@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>> Micoshaft fraudster Linux7come11 wrote:
>>
>>> 7 wrote:
>>>> Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?
>> Linux now owns the fastest desktop and fastest desktop applications.
>> That is important!!
>
> No it isn't.


Prove it!

Give 10 new users PCs and ask them which PC they prefer.
A slow PC desktop or a fast PC desktop.
 
Re: Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?

7 wrote:
> Telstar wrote:
>
>> "7" <website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
>> news:ojf5k.10075$E41.252@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>> Micoshaft fraudster Linux7come11 wrote:
>>>
>>>> 7 wrote:
>>>>> Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?
>>> Linux now owns the fastest desktop and fastest desktop applications.
>>> That is important!!
>> No it isn't.
>
>
> Prove it!
>
> Give 10 new users PCs and ask them which PC they prefer.
> A slow PC desktop or a fast PC desktop.
>
>

Ten out of ten PC users prefer a Windows operating system.
Either Windows XP or, preferably, Windows Vista.
 
Re: Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?

7 wrote:
> Telstar wrote:
>
>
>>"7" <website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
>>news:ojf5k.10075$E41.252@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>
>>>Micoshaft fraudster Linux7come11 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>7 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?
>>>
>>>Linux now owns the fastest desktop and fastest desktop applications.
>>>That is important!!
>>
>>No it isn't.
>
>
>
> Prove it!
>
> Give 10 new users PCs and ask them which PC they prefer.
> A slow PC desktop or a fast PC desktop.
>
>
I did.
First they want a PC that works=XP/Vista
Then they want a PC that is quick=XP/Vista
Frank
 
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"7" <website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
news:0Sf5k.10102$E41.4570@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> Telstar wrote:
>
>>
>> "7" <website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
>> news:ojf5k.10075$E41.252@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>> Micoshaft fraudster Linux7come11 wrote:
>>>
>>>> 7 wrote:
>>>>> Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?
>>> Linux now owns the fastest desktop and fastest desktop applications.
>>> That is important!!
>>
>> No it isn't.
>
>
> Prove it!
>
> Give 10 new users PCs and ask them which PC they prefer.
> A slow PC desktop or a fast PC desktop.
>
>


The OS of choice is dependant upon whether it will run the programs of
choice..

--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
 
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"Bob Spears" <bobspears@netscape.com> wrote in message
news:48558C88.3030004@netscape.com...
>7 wrote:
>> Telstar wrote:
>>
>>> "7" <website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ojf5k.10075$E41.252@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>>> Micoshaft fraudster Linux7come11 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 7 wrote:
>>>>>> Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?
>>>> Linux now owns the fastest desktop and fastest desktop applications.
>>>> That is important!!
>>> No it isn't.
>>
>>
>> Prove it!
>>
>> Give 10 new users PCs and ask them which PC they prefer.
>> A slow PC desktop or a fast PC desktop.
>>
>>
>
> Ten out of ten PC users prefer a Windows operating system.
> Either Windows XP or, preferably, Windows Vista.

At least we know you breath in the dark.

Know of 9 people in our families who have Vista.

2 have succumb to being double dipped and bought/loaded XP
2 don't mind Vista (non-technical)
2 have replaced Vista with Ubuntu
3 are still complaining.

Thank my stars I never recommended Vista to relatives.
 
Re: Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?

Canuck57 wrote:
> "Bob Spears" <bobspears@netscape.com> wrote in message
> news:48558C88.3030004@netscape.com...
>> 7 wrote:
>>> Telstar wrote:
>>>
>>>> "7" <website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ojf5k.10075$E41.252@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>>>> Micoshaft fraudster Linux7come11 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 7 wrote:
>>>>>>> Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?
>>>>> Linux now owns the fastest desktop and fastest desktop
>>>>> applications. That is important!!
>>>> No it isn't.
>>>
>>>
>>> Prove it!
>>>
>>> Give 10 new users PCs and ask them which PC they prefer.
>>> A slow PC desktop or a fast PC desktop.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ten out of ten PC users prefer a Windows operating system.
>> Either Windows XP or, preferably, Windows Vista.
>
> At least we know you breath in the dark.
>
> Know of 9 people in our families who have Vista.
>
> 2 have succumb to being double dipped and bought/loaded XP
> 2 don't mind Vista (non-technical)
> 2 have replaced Vista with Ubuntu
> 3 are still complaining.
>
> Thank my stars I never recommended Vista to relatives.

Your using 'relatives' to indicate your closeness to baboons, right?
 
Re: Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?


"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> Canuck57 wrote:
>> "Bob Spears" <bobspears@netscape.com> wrote in message
>> news:48558C88.3030004@netscape.com...
>>> 7 wrote:
>>>> Telstar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "7" <website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ojf5k.10075$E41.252@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>>>>> Micoshaft fraudster Linux7come11 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 7 wrote:
>>>>>>>> Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?
>>>>>> Linux now owns the fastest desktop and fastest desktop
>>>>>> applications. That is important!!
>>>>> No it isn't.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Prove it!
>>>>
>>>> Give 10 new users PCs and ask them which PC they prefer.
>>>> A slow PC desktop or a fast PC desktop.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ten out of ten PC users prefer a Windows operating system.
>>> Either Windows XP or, preferably, Windows Vista.
>>
>> At least we know you breath in the dark.
>>
>> Know of 9 people in our families who have Vista.
>>
>> 2 have succumb to being double dipped and bought/loaded XP
>> 2 don't mind Vista (non-technical)
>> 2 have replaced Vista with Ubuntu
>> 3 are still complaining.
>>
>> Thank my stars I never recommended Vista to relatives.
>
> Your using 'relatives' to indicate your closeness to baboons, right?
>
>

Yes, Same As In Your Family. Just FYI
 
Re: Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?

Shane Nokes wrote:
> I think you're stuck on repeat here.
>
> Maybe a good swift kick....nope that didn't work.
>
> No signs of intelligent life :(

Your replying to a first class idiot, king of retards "7" AKA Joseph
Michael.
Windows user and lifelong developer in daylight, linux basement dweller and
windows basher by night.
Registrant:
Mr. J. Michael
23 Portland Rise
London, Middlesex N4 2PT
UK
Domain name: ENEMYGADGETS.COM
Administrative Contact:
Michael, Joseph ecu@blueyonder.co.uk
23 Portland Rise
London, Middlesex N4 2PT
UK
02075031794
 
Re: Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?

* Canuck57 peremptorily fired off this memo:

> Know of 9 people in our families who have Vista.
>
> 2 have succumb to being double dipped and bought/loaded XP
> 2 don't mind Vista (non-technical)

Imagine that, though. A person pays for the latest hardware to run the
latest bloatware, and all they're doing is editing documents, browsing,
sending emails, and maybe doing a little light multimedia.

Just what /does/ Vista bring to the table for these kinds of people? It
certainly doesn't bring better security -- they'd need Win 2003 Server
for that.

> 2 have replaced Vista with Ubuntu
> 3 are still complaining.

--
The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead
all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that
it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the
first place.
-- Douglas Adams
 
Re: Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?

Linonut wrote:
> * Canuck57 peremptorily fired off this memo:
>
>> Know of 9 people in our families who have Vista.
>>
>> 2 have succumb to being double dipped and bought/loaded XP
>> 2 don't mind Vista (non-technical)
>
> Imagine that, though. A person pays for the latest hardware to run the
> latest bloatware, and all they're doing is editing documents, browsing,
> sending emails, and maybe doing a little light multimedia.
>
> Just what /does/ Vista bring to the table for these kinds of people? It
> certainly doesn't bring better security -- they'd need Win 2003 Server
> for that.


Actually I used W2003 Server as a desktop for ages and like it better
than XP or anything else for that matter. Okay you lose some things like
Movie Maker, but it ran light and clean and seemed secure out of the box
(Subject to updates). Unfortunately the price puts it out of range for
non business users. Also a lot of free stuff (Like AV) won't run on it.

Documentation is another thing, not many enthusiasts write "Simply
Worded" tutorials for MS professional stuff. For example setting up a
mail server in W2003. MS do some nice docs but assume knowledge that
most enthusiasts do not have - hmm I mean like references to other
terminology. Example:- You need to set up the ABC before redirecting the
DEF or else the GHI will not work. By the time you have looked up what
MS means by DEF (And there can be 20 such references in a document) you
are so far off the original topic it's past midnight :). IOW they do not
do a start to finish step by step. With Linux and something like Webmin
you can usually find some step by step docs. Again, this is not
criticizing anybody, but if you are doing something once a week it's a
different ball game to doing it once a year.

So it seems to me that there is a growing base of "Help" out there for
Linux which will encourage it's use. It is there for Windows but often
you have to pay for it at Barnes and Noble, and by the time you get the
book something has changed and it's out of date. By far the best MS
documentation for ordinary users was Tom Koch's Outlook Express website,
not written by MS at all.

Another odd thing is business policy, example being the mail client.
Ignoring the debacle that occurred after Vista RTM with mail they now
supply a half functional client that does not play with Hotmail but give
another client away (A colored version of OE) that does work. What was
the point? Users now set up one and then have to set up another, since
both are free why not simply include the better one? I went through a
period where neither would communicate with my ISPs mail server (Vista
or XP versions) and was forced to change to Thunderbird. I mean what was
that about? I set up the same things 3 times. But look through the
groups and you see the same old things, corrupt message stores (Usually
caused by Norton or similar), messages stuck in outbox, trouble with
attachments. Sorry but these just do not happen with Thunderbird, either
under Windows or Linux. Considering the types of user you mentioned
above surely Email is a fundamental thing to get right, as is browsing?

Of course the problem seems to me to be that these functions are not
detachable from the Kernal, you can't reinstall IE like you can FireFox
or Opera. IE is not always the problem, usually I find it is an add on,
or some malware, but if it trashes IE then it gets complicated.
Similarly WMP, if it gets trashed by some Codec pack you can't reinstall
it.

So Please Microsoft, sort out some of the simple things. If you must
"Integrate" things then supply a "Basic" version of things that is
harder to corrupt and make the better version reinstallable, so that if
add ons get trashed a user can opt for the reinstall.
 
Re: Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?

Canuck57 wrote:

>
> At least we know you breath in the dark.
>
> Know of 9 people in our families who have Vista.
>
> 2 have succumb to being double dipped and bought/loaded XP
> 2 don't mind Vista (non-technical)
> 2 have replaced Vista with Ubuntu
> 3 are still complaining.
>
> Thank my stars I never recommended Vista to relatives.

Every time you post in this newsgroup, you become a bigger fool
then you already are....what a loser!
 
Re: Is Micoshaft Marketing Causing Retardation of IT Admins?


"Linonut" <linonut@bollsouth.nut> wrote in message
news:8Vr5k.6398$PZ6.4841@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>* Canuck57 peremptorily fired off this memo:
>
>> Know of 9 people in our families who have Vista.
>>
>> 2 have succumb to being double dipped and bought/loaded XP
>> 2 don't mind Vista (non-technical)
>
> Imagine that, though. A person pays for the latest hardware to run the
> latest bloatware, and all they're doing is editing documents, browsing,
> sending emails, and maybe doing a little light multimedia.
>
> Just what /does/ Vista bring to the table for these kinds of people? It
> certainly doesn't bring better security -- they'd need Win 2003 Server
> for that.
>
>> 2 have replaced Vista with Ubuntu
>> 3 are still complaining.
>
> --
> The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to
> lead
> all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact
> that
> it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the
> first place.
> -- Douglas Adams

Good quote, has lots of merit.
 
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