Wireless Access Windows 98SE

  • Thread starter Thread starter A Team
  • Start date Start date
A

A Team

Guest
I'm trying to interconnect my desktop machine which is wired to a D-Link
G604T Wireless Modem / Router, and a D-Link DWL-G630 Wireless CardBus Adapter
in my Windows 98SE Tecra 8000 Laptop. The Tecra is unlikely to be able to
support Win 2000, or better.

The Tecra has successfully installed the card and can 'see' the network, but
won't communicate (e-mail and IE) with the modem / router.

The same card in another laptop equipped with XP worked fine after
relatively straightforward setup, with WPA enabled.

I can only get the Tecra to work with WEP enabled, and then it works fine.
However, that means everything has to be WEP (rather than WPA). There is
nothing in the Card's manual regarding whether WPA works with Win 98SE.

I have a sneaking suspicion that, although the card is compatible with Win
98, Win 98 doesn't support WPA. The WEP appears to support a hex key and
that's what I'm using in both machines.

Can you confirm that?
Alternatively, is there a way I can use WPA with Win 98?
If I'm stuck on WEP, what degree of security am I missing out on?
 
Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE



Not personally familiar with the device, from the site:

"* Maximum wireless signal rate derived from IEEE Standard 802.11g
specifications. Actual data throughput will vary. Network conditions and
environmental factors, including volume of network traffic, building
materials and construction, and network overhead, lower actual data
throughput rate. Environmental factors will adversely affect wireless signal
range.
** WPA and 802.1x requires use of the Windows® XP Zero Configuration
Utility."

Might look at for card version identification:
http://support.dlink.com/products/revision.asp?productid=DWL-G630

ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg630/Manual/dwlg630_manual_101.zip

WEP will provide very little protection, though it is better than none. It
does appear there is/was an issue with the Atheros chip AND a version or so
of the software
The ATHCFG11.DLL file is linked to missing export
IPHLPAPI.DLL:GetPerAdapterInfo
http://www.cybertechhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57976
http://www.cybertechhelp.com/forums...cb90bb568600a19a0bf93969&p=304141&postcount=6
so you may want to look at what driver/software version you have and maybe
try an older or different one...

Your computer specs:
http://www.westworldcomputers.com/toshiba_tecra_8000_specs_page.htm


--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"A Team" <A Team@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:52A5F193-1F0F-464D-8CB9-67C3B63E09D7@microsoft.com...
| I'm trying to interconnect my desktop machine which is wired to a D-Link
| G604T Wireless Modem / Router, and a D-Link DWL-G630 Wireless CardBus
Adapter
| in my Windows 98SE Tecra 8000 Laptop. The Tecra is unlikely to be able to
| support Win 2000, or better.
|
| The Tecra has successfully installed the card and can 'see' the network,
but
| won't communicate (e-mail and IE) with the modem / router.
|
| The same card in another laptop equipped with XP worked fine after
| relatively straightforward setup, with WPA enabled.
|
| I can only get the Tecra to work with WEP enabled, and then it works fine.
| However, that means everything has to be WEP (rather than WPA). There is
| nothing in the Card's manual regarding whether WPA works with Win 98SE.
|
| I have a sneaking suspicion that, although the card is compatible with Win
| 98, Win 98 doesn't support WPA. The WEP appears to support a hex key and
| that's what I'm using in both machines.
|
| Can you confirm that?
| Alternatively, is there a way I can use WPA with Win 98?
| If I'm stuck on WEP, what degree of security am I missing out on?
 
Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:34:01 -0700, A Team <A
Team@discussions.microsoft.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>I'm trying to interconnect my desktop machine which is wired to a D-Link
>G604T Wireless Modem / Router, and a D-Link DWL-G630 Wireless CardBus Adapter
>in my Windows 98SE Tecra 8000 Laptop. The Tecra is unlikely to be able to
>support Win 2000, or better.
>
>The Tecra has successfully installed the card and can 'see' the network, but
>won't communicate (e-mail and IE) with the modem / router.
>
>The same card in another laptop equipped with XP worked fine after
>relatively straightforward setup, with WPA enabled.
>
>I can only get the Tecra to work with WEP enabled, and then it works fine.
>However, that means everything has to be WEP (rather than WPA). There is
>nothing in the Card's manual regarding whether WPA works with Win 98SE.
>
>I have a sneaking suspicion that, although the card is compatible with Win
>98, Win 98 doesn't support WPA. The WEP appears to support a hex key and
>that's what I'm using in both machines.
>
>Can you confirm that?
>Alternatively, is there a way I can use WPA with Win 98?
>If I'm stuck on WEP, what degree of security am I missing out on?


I don't have any answers, only some general questions directed to
anyone who understands the technology.

Is encryption handled at the hardware level by the wireless card or by
a software driver or network protocol or application? I notice that
the configuration application for the wireless card has a checkbox for
data encryption, but this sets up WEP only. There is no other
encryption option.

Is WPA/WPA-2 handled at the OS level, and if so, does this mean that
Win98SE cannot support this feature, or can it be provided by the
card's driver?

My reading of Wikipedia's WPA/WPA-2 article suggests that these
encryption standards can be retrofitted to older hardware via firmware
upgrades. Does this apply only to wireless routers or can cards be
upgraded as well? Are cards in fact upgradable at all, or are they
like winmodems in that their functions are handled mostly by host
software?

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE


Could have a lengthy discussion I suppose, but how about a link that might
help spark the discussion first:

http://www.circuitcellar.com/ - CIRCUIT CELLAR By Engineers, For Engineers
Caution - lots of scripts and code on this site. Dang, I hate these types
of sites. Good magazine though... try the archives ...

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:8f3164pmqdaqkonlfmr9lgmp5h24o6o9te@4ax.com...
| On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:34:01 -0700, A Team <A
| Team@discussions.microsoft.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
| >I'm trying to interconnect my desktop machine which is wired to a D-Link
| >G604T Wireless Modem / Router, and a D-Link DWL-G630 Wireless CardBus
Adapter
| >in my Windows 98SE Tecra 8000 Laptop. The Tecra is unlikely to be able to
| >support Win 2000, or better.
| >
| >The Tecra has successfully installed the card and can 'see' the network,
but
| >won't communicate (e-mail and IE) with the modem / router.
| >
| >The same card in another laptop equipped with XP worked fine after
| >relatively straightforward setup, with WPA enabled.
| >
| >I can only get the Tecra to work with WEP enabled, and then it works
fine.
| >However, that means everything has to be WEP (rather than WPA). There is
| >nothing in the Card's manual regarding whether WPA works with Win 98SE.
| >
| >I have a sneaking suspicion that, although the card is compatible with
Win
| >98, Win 98 doesn't support WPA. The WEP appears to support a hex key and
| >that's what I'm using in both machines.
| >
| >Can you confirm that?
| >Alternatively, is there a way I can use WPA with Win 98?
| >If I'm stuck on WEP, what degree of security am I missing out on?
|
| I don't have any answers, only some general questions directed to
| anyone who understands the technology.
|
| Is encryption handled at the hardware level by the wireless card or by
| a software driver or network protocol or application? I notice that
| the configuration application for the wireless card has a checkbox for
| data encryption, but this sets up WEP only. There is no other
| encryption option.
|
| Is WPA/WPA-2 handled at the OS level, and if so, does this mean that
| Win98SE cannot support this feature, or can it be provided by the
| card's driver?
|
| My reading of Wikipedia's WPA/WPA-2 article suggests that these
| encryption standards can be retrofitted to older hardware via firmware
| upgrades. Does this apply only to wireless routers or can cards be
| upgraded as well? Are cards in fact upgradable at all, or are they
| like winmodems in that their functions are handled mostly by host
| software?
|
| - Franc Zabkar
| --
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:35:10 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

>
> Could have a lengthy discussion I suppose, but how about a link that might
>help spark the discussion first:
>
>http://www.circuitcellar.com/ - CIRCUIT CELLAR By Engineers, For Engineers
> Caution - lots of scripts and code on this site. Dang, I hate these types
>of sites. Good magazine though... try the archives ...
>
>--
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com


Sorry, I didn't find anything there. Anyway, the reason I asked those
questions was that the answers may determine whether it is in fact
possible for the OP to do what he/she wants. If not, then I would
think that wireless networking via Win98, being limited to WEP, would
be inadvisable from a security point of view.

Having said that, I suspect that there are huge numbers of unprotected
wireless networks in domestic use. A friend recently asked me to
determine why it was that she was no longer able to connect to the
Internet via her hard-wired Win98SE box and her wireless laptop at the
same time, after her ISP had upgraded her from ADSL to ADSL+ (by
upgrading the DSLAM). The solution was to enable NAT in her router (ie
the ADSL+ upgrade was not the cause of her problem), which then begged
the question, if NAT had previously been disabled, then how had she
achieved simultaneous Internet access? The answer appears to be that
her laptop had unknowingly been accessing the Internet via a
neighbour's insecure wireless network.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

The prior link's intent was to direct to the usual "Well, it depends".
Interspersed in the articles and downloads, are codings, discussions of
programmable chips, USB device creation, embedded OSs, and other.

Depending upon the USB device, its chip(s) and their programmability [chip
specific or if programmable, whether the programming connections had been
"cut" or not, any "memory", etc.], and the correct programming software, it
MIGHT be possible to change the USB chip hard code to something that
provides that support. It would appear though, that potentially may not be
enough, particularly IF the USB device was intended for use elsewhere [like
in XP or VISTA, where the Zero Configuration tool might be used], or still
required its interface software to provide other functions.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________


"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uywZhxc1IHA.3920@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|
| Could have a lengthy discussion I suppose, but how about a link that
might
| help spark the discussion first:
|
| http://www.circuitcellar.com/ - CIRCUIT CELLAR By Engineers, For Engineers
| Caution - lots of scripts and code on this site. Dang, I hate these types
| of sites. Good magazine though... try the archives ...
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| --
| _________
|
| "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
| news:8f3164pmqdaqkonlfmr9lgmp5h24o6o9te@4ax.com...
| | On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:34:01 -0700, A Team <A
| | Team@discussions.microsoft.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:
| |
| | >I'm trying to interconnect my desktop machine which is wired to a
D-Link
| | >G604T Wireless Modem / Router, and a D-Link DWL-G630 Wireless CardBus
| Adapter
| | >in my Windows 98SE Tecra 8000 Laptop. The Tecra is unlikely to be able
to
| | >support Win 2000, or better.
| | >
| | >The Tecra has successfully installed the card and can 'see' the
network,
| but
| | >won't communicate (e-mail and IE) with the modem / router.
| | >
| | >The same card in another laptop equipped with XP worked fine after
| | >relatively straightforward setup, with WPA enabled.
| | >
| | >I can only get the Tecra to work with WEP enabled, and then it works
| fine.
| | >However, that means everything has to be WEP (rather than WPA). There
is
| | >nothing in the Card's manual regarding whether WPA works with Win 98SE.
| | >
| | >I have a sneaking suspicion that, although the card is compatible with
| Win
| | >98, Win 98 doesn't support WPA. The WEP appears to support a hex key
and
| | >that's what I'm using in both machines.
| | >
| | >Can you confirm that?
| | >Alternatively, is there a way I can use WPA with Win 98?
| | >If I'm stuck on WEP, what degree of security am I missing out on?
| |
| | I don't have any answers, only some general questions directed to
| | anyone who understands the technology.
| |
| | Is encryption handled at the hardware level by the wireless card or by
| | a software driver or network protocol or application? I notice that
| | the configuration application for the wireless card has a checkbox for
| | data encryption, but this sets up WEP only. There is no other
| | encryption option.
| |
| | Is WPA/WPA-2 handled at the OS level, and if so, does this mean that
| | Win98SE cannot support this feature, or can it be provided by the
| | card's driver?
| |
| | My reading of Wikipedia's WPA/WPA-2 article suggests that these
| | encryption standards can be retrofitted to older hardware via firmware
| | upgrades. Does this apply only to wireless routers or can cards be
| | upgraded as well? Are cards in fact upgradable at all, or are they
| | like winmodems in that their functions are handled mostly by host
| | software?
| |
| | - Franc Zabkar
| | --
| | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
|
|
 
Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE


"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:45o26491jg2ans5o1skuj274in2m6l43e7@4ax.com...
| On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:35:10 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
| >
| > Could have a lengthy discussion I suppose, but how about a link that
might
| >help spark the discussion first:
| >
| >http://www.circuitcellar.com/ - CIRCUIT CELLAR By Engineers, For
Engineers
| > Caution - lots of scripts and code on this site. Dang, I hate these
types
| >of sites. Good magazine though... try the archives ...
| >
| >--
| > MEB
| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|
| Sorry, I didn't find anything there. Anyway, the reason I asked those
| questions was that the answers may determine whether it is in fact
| possible for the OP to do what he/she wants. If not, then I would
| think that wireless networking via Win98, being limited to WEP, would
| be inadvisable from a security point of view.

Right, I got the tenor of your original post. The answer is hardware/chip
or chipset support. The encryption and other can, could, and should be
handled within the USB wireless device.

WEP would indeed be a limited security to use but anything beyond a few
hundred feet away wouldn't be able to affect the network very much. The
range of the devices is not that great. Stacked apartment dwellers and
closely placed housing units are likely the most vulnerable.
Security, in general, is based upon deterance. Determined indivduals will
break into almost any security if given the chance. Living/networking in
cities increases the need for more security in general and secure access
points, obviously.

|
| Having said that, I suspect that there are huge numbers of unprotected
| wireless networks in domestic use. A friend recently asked me to
| determine why it was that she was no longer able to connect to the
| Internet via her hard-wired Win98SE box and her wireless laptop at the
| same time, after her ISP had upgraded her from ADSL to ADSL+ (by
| upgrading the DSLAM). The solution was to enable NAT in her router (ie
| the ADSL+ upgrade was not the cause of her problem), which then begged
| the question, if NAT had previously been disabled, then how had she
| achieved simultaneous Internet access? The answer appears to be that
| her laptop had unknowingly been accessing the Internet via a
| neighbour's insecure wireless network.
|
| - Franc Zabkar
| --
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

The number of unprotected and under-protected wireless networks would be
astounding, I'm sure.
Most people never change the default passwords or use simple to guess
passwords, and know little beyond what was needed to install the wireless
units.
Moreover, many never even use WEP in their networks, they are wide open
[such as in the network you mentioned]; and when enabled, never make or
change WEP Keys.

The 802.11i standard [WPA2} can and is implemented via hardware.
WPA/WPA-PSK came with updates to XPSP1 {Update 815485} and is/was part of
802.11b [a supplement]. Early vendors included support in their own software
[supplicant support] and hardware for 9X [generally only SE], now, its
difficult to find.
Older 802.11b products may or may not be upgradeable, depending on the
vendor. If you own 802.11b equipment, check with the vendor to see if
upgrades will be offered for your particular product(s). Newer 802.11g or
multi-mode 802.11a/g equipment is what is now generally found, though you
may be using the n version..

Should the manufacturer not supply 98SE supplicant, some users have
resorted to experimentation, and found that there were others that MIGHT
work, such as:
Funk Software Odyssey client or Aegis.

Some have also found that using certain drivers/supplicants from other
vendors would work with their devices, such as:
ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg520/Apps/dwlg520_WPAsupplicant_236.zip

Though as always, this is experimentation... YMMV....

Interestingly, many MVPs know of these issues and potential fixes, but
rarely post them... particularly here....

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________
 
Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

Sorry Franc, not fully holding up my end:

Here's the standards:
http://ieee802.org/1/
http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802/802.1.html

Here's the update for 2000:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313664
KB313664 - Using 802.1x authentication on client computers that are running
Windows 2000
This was included in SP4

http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/
wpa_supplicant is a WPA Supplicant for Linux, BSD, Mac OS X, and Windows
with support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i / RSN).
{tested with XP, 2000 per developer}

Articles:
http://www.wireless-center.net/Mobile-and-Wireless/IEEE-802.1X-Authentication.html
http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/tip/1,289483,sid7_gci872324,00.html -
2003 - dated material

AND:
Microsoft also announced 802.1X Authentication Client packages for Windows
98, ME, and NT 4.0 Workstation, available to customers with support
contracts. Key being SUPPORT CONTRACTS...
It would be interesting if some of those made it to the NET.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23B9$9gm1IHA.5048@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|
| "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
| news:45o26491jg2ans5o1skuj274in2m6l43e7@4ax.com...
| | On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:35:10 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| | put finger to keyboard and composed:
| |
| | >
| | > Could have a lengthy discussion I suppose, but how about a link that
| might
| | >help spark the discussion first:
| | >
| | >http://www.circuitcellar.com/ - CIRCUIT CELLAR By Engineers, For
| Engineers
| | > Caution - lots of scripts and code on this site. Dang, I hate these
| types
| | >of sites. Good magazine though... try the archives ...
| | >
| | >--
| | > MEB
| | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| |
| | Sorry, I didn't find anything there. Anyway, the reason I asked those
| | questions was that the answers may determine whether it is in fact
| | possible for the OP to do what he/she wants. If not, then I would
| | think that wireless networking via Win98, being limited to WEP, would
| | be inadvisable from a security point of view.
|
| Right, I got the tenor of your original post. The answer is hardware/chip
| or chipset support. The encryption and other can, could, and should be
| handled within the USB wireless device.
|
| WEP would indeed be a limited security to use but anything beyond a few
| hundred feet away wouldn't be able to affect the network very much. The
| range of the devices is not that great. Stacked apartment dwellers and
| closely placed housing units are likely the most vulnerable.
| Security, in general, is based upon deterance. Determined indivduals will
| break into almost any security if given the chance. Living/networking in
| cities increases the need for more security in general and secure access
| points, obviously.
|
| |
| | Having said that, I suspect that there are huge numbers of unprotected
| | wireless networks in domestic use. A friend recently asked me to
| | determine why it was that she was no longer able to connect to the
| | Internet via her hard-wired Win98SE box and her wireless laptop at the
| | same time, after her ISP had upgraded her from ADSL to ADSL+ (by
| | upgrading the DSLAM). The solution was to enable NAT in her router (ie
| | the ADSL+ upgrade was not the cause of her problem), which then begged
| | the question, if NAT had previously been disabled, then how had she
| | achieved simultaneous Internet access? The answer appears to be that
| | her laptop had unknowingly been accessing the Internet via a
| | neighbour's insecure wireless network.
| |
| | - Franc Zabkar
| | --
| | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
|
| The number of unprotected and under-protected wireless networks would be
| astounding, I'm sure.
| Most people never change the default passwords or use simple to guess
| passwords, and know little beyond what was needed to install the wireless
| units.
| Moreover, many never even use WEP in their networks, they are wide open
| [such as in the network you mentioned]; and when enabled, never make or
| change WEP Keys.
|
| The 802.11i standard [WPA2} can and is implemented via hardware.
| WPA/WPA-PSK came with updates to XPSP1 {Update 815485} and is/was part of
| 802.11b [a supplement]. Early vendors included support in their own
software
| [supplicant support] and hardware for 9X [generally only SE], now, its
| difficult to find.
| Older 802.11b products may or may not be upgradeable, depending on the
| vendor. If you own 802.11b equipment, check with the vendor to see if
| upgrades will be offered for your particular product(s). Newer 802.11g or
| multi-mode 802.11a/g equipment is what is now generally found, though you
| may be using the n version..
|
| Should the manufacturer not supply 98SE supplicant, some users have
| resorted to experimentation, and found that there were others that MIGHT
| work, such as:
| Funk Software Odyssey client or Aegis.
|
| Some have also found that using certain drivers/supplicants from other
| vendors would work with their devices, such as:
| ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg520/Apps/dwlg520_WPAsupplicant_236.zip
|
| Though as always, this is experimentation... YMMV....
|
| Interestingly, many MVPs know of these issues and potential fixes, but
| rarely post them... particularly here....
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| --
| _________
|
|
|
 
Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:05:54 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

> The 802.11i standard [WPA2} can and is implemented via hardware.
>WPA/WPA-PSK came with updates to XPSP1 {Update 815485} and is/was part of
>802.11b [a supplement]. Early vendors included support in their own software
>[supplicant support] and hardware for 9X [generally only SE], now, its
>difficult to find.
> Older 802.11b products may or may not be upgradeable, depending on the
>vendor. If you own 802.11b equipment, check with the vendor to see if
>upgrades will be offered for your particular product(s). Newer 802.11g or
>multi-mode 802.11a/g equipment is what is now generally found, though you
>may be using the n version..
>
> Should the manufacturer not supply 98SE supplicant, some users have
>resorted to experimentation, and found that there were others that MIGHT
>work, such as:
>Funk Software Odyssey client or Aegis.
>
> Some have also found that using certain drivers/supplicants from other
>vendors would work with their devices, such as:
>ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg520/Apps/dwlg520_WPAsupplicant_236.zip


I found the following two articles useful, even though they are aimed
at users of Win XP.

Implement WPA2-Personal wireless security on a Windows XP SP2-based
computer:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/expert/bowman_wirelesssecurity.mspx

WPA Wireless Security for Home Networks:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/bowman_03july28.mspx

The author refers to the same DWLG520 device that you have linked to
above. She claims that its drivers may provide WAP-2 support for the
OP's "D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G630 Wireless Cardbus Adapter", although
the INF file calls out Rev D of that particular card. The OP's card,
if it is a different Rev, may not use the same chipset.

She claims she was able to obtain WPA-2 support (under XP) for her
DWL-G650 cards from the following archive:

ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg520_revB/Drivers/dwlg520_revB3_drivers_318.zip

I have successfully installed the above software on my Win98SE box
although I don't have any wireless cards. I notice that the
AirPlusCFG.exe file (D-Link AirPlus Utility) has text strings which
refer to WPA and WPA-2. There is also a DLL file
(C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WlanApp.dll) that contains various WPA and WPA2
functions.

I don't know which files, if any, are the "supplicants". Perhaps your
dwlg520_WPAsupplicant_236.zip archive needs to be installed as well.

I tried visiting Funk Software's Odyssey site ...

http://www.funk.com/radius/wlan/ody_c_wpa_for_ms.asp

.... but it appeared to be down. The Australian site is up, but demo
downloads are only available to Australian IP addresses.

BTW, when I try to run D-Link's AirPlus Utility, the app just closes
and exits, perhaps because there is no wireless card.

One other thing the OP may like to follow up is the latest firmware
for D-Link's G604T router:

ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Broadband/dslg604t/Firmware/dslg604T_firmware_200.zip

Maybe it includes WPA-2 support.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE


"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:bglb641o9qdsc0pbas1chjmlncrn2940f4@4ax.com...
| On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:05:54 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
| > The 802.11i standard [WPA2} can and is implemented via hardware.
| >WPA/WPA-PSK came with updates to XPSP1 {Update 815485} and is/was part of
| >802.11b [a supplement]. Early vendors included support in their own
software
| >[supplicant support] and hardware for 9X [generally only SE], now, its
| >difficult to find.
| > Older 802.11b products may or may not be upgradeable, depending on the
| >vendor. If you own 802.11b equipment, check with the vendor to see if
| >upgrades will be offered for your particular product(s). Newer 802.11g or
| >multi-mode 802.11a/g equipment is what is now generally found, though you
| >may be using the n version..
| >
| > Should the manufacturer not supply 98SE supplicant, some users have
| >resorted to experimentation, and found that there were others that MIGHT
| >work, such as:
| >Funk Software Odyssey client or Aegis.
| >
| > Some have also found that using certain drivers/supplicants from other
| >vendors would work with their devices, such as:
| >ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg520/Apps/dwlg520_WPAsupplicant_236.zip
|
| I found the following two articles useful, even though they are aimed
| at users of Win XP.
|
| Implement WPA2-Personal wireless security on a Windows XP SP2-based
| computer:
|
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/expert/bowman_wirelesssecurity.mspx
|
| WPA Wireless Security for Home Networks:
|
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/bowman_03july28.mspx
|
| The author refers to the same DWLG520 device that you have linked to
| above. She claims that its drivers may provide WAP-2 support for the
| OP's "D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G630 Wireless Cardbus Adapter", although
| the INF file calls out Rev D of that particular card. The OP's card,
| if it is a different Rev, may not use the same chipset.
|
| She claims she was able to obtain WPA-2 support (under XP) for her
| DWL-G650 cards from the following archive:
|
|
ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg520_revB/Drivers/dwlg520_revB3_drivers_318.zip
|
| I have successfully installed the above software on my Win98SE box
| although I don't have any wireless cards. I notice that the
| AirPlusCFG.exe file (D-Link AirPlus Utility) has text strings which
| refer to WPA and WPA-2. There is also a DLL file
| (C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WlanApp.dll) that contains various WPA and WPA2
| functions.

Look for this file:
A3AB9x.sys

|
| I don't know which files, if any, are the "supplicants". Perhaps your
| dwlg520_WPAsupplicant_236.zip archive needs to be installed as well.
|
| I tried visiting Funk Software's Odyssey site ...
|
| http://www.funk.com/radius/wlan/ody_c_wpa_for_ms.asp
|
| ... but it appeared to be down. The Australian site is up, but demo
| downloads are only available to Australian IP addresses.
|
| BTW, when I try to run D-Link's AirPlus Utility, the app just closes
| and exits, perhaps because there is no wireless card.
|
| One other thing the OP may like to follow up is the latest firmware
| for D-Link's G604T router:
|
| ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Broadband/dslg604t/Firmware/dslg604T_firmware_200.zip
|
| Maybe it includes WPA-2 support.
|
| - Franc Zabkar
| --
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

The file I had directed to [264 Kb] appeared to be just the Aegis support
files [2 exes with a DLL for each]. The file you directed to is the full
installation file [13.26 megs] for a specific adapter or more likely, a
specific chip or {range of} chips.
D-Link did {or does} put out a quite a few 9X supporting devices.
The original issue with WEP was likely due to improper network setup
(firewall, IP addressing, security settings, etc.) ['won't communicate
(e-mail and IE) with the modem / router.']. I didn't key on that issue,
thinking someone else would, and it appeared the poster was more interested
in WPA..

Those {experimental - not for the adapter}supplicants work{ed} in conjuction
with the device's original installation files, or apparently so from what I
can find.

Here's an important section from the aegis12.exe:
; mdc8021x.inf -- AEGIS Client 1.5.1.65 for Windows 98/98SE/ME
; Copyright (c) 1997-2002, Meetinghouse Data Communications
[version]
Signature = "$CHICAGO$"
Class = NetTrans
Provider = %MDC%
[Manufacturer]
%MDC8021X.DeviceDesc%=MDC8021X.ndi,MDC8021X
;------------------------; Installation Section
[MDC8021X.ndi]
AddReg=MDC8021X.ndi.reg
CopyFiles=MDC8021X.CopyFiles
DeviceID=MDC8021X
MaxInstance=1
[MDC8021X.ndi.reg]
HKR,Ndi,DeviceID,,MDC8021X
HKR,Ndi,MaxInstance,,1
; NDIS info
HKR,NDIS,LogDriverName,,"MDC8021X"
HKR,NDIS,MajorNdisVersion,1,03
HKR,NDIS,MinorNdisVersion,1,0A

The aegis15.exe contains this:
; mdc8021x.inf -- WPA Security Client for Windows 2000 and XP, Version
1.5.1.65
; Copyright (c) 1997-2002, Meetinghouse Data Communications
[version]
Signature = "$Windows NT$"
Class = NetTrans
ClassGUID = {4d36e975-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}
Provider = %MDC%
DriverVer = 03/12/2003,1.5.1.65
[Manufacturer]
%MDC8021X_Desc% = Install,MDC8021X
; Installation Section
[Install]
AddReg = AddReg_Ndi
AddReg = AddReg_EventLog
Characteristics = 0 ; Has no characterstic
; Ndi installation
[AddReg_Ndi]
HKR,Ndi,Service,,"MDC8021X"
HKR,Ndi,HelpText,,%MDC8021X_HelpText%
HKR,Ndi\Interfaces,UpperRange,,noupper
HKR,Ndi\Interfaces,LowerRange,,"ndis4,ndis5"

The aegisE2.dll contains:
....
AEGIS Client is licensed for use with ORiNOCO network adapters only.
....
and entries for WEP, WPA, PEAP, MSCHAPv2, LEAP, etc., and the required
requests and responses..

So maybe it is really as it appears, just the supplicant which was found to
work with other adapters, particularly as it doesn't contain the install
INF, Help files, and other files mentioned within the files. Obviously, it
isn't/wasn't being used upon the device intended.

And yeah, Barb puts out some good information sometimes.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________
 
Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:07:43 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

>"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
>news:bglb641o9qdsc0pbas1chjmlncrn2940f4@4ax.com...


>ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg520_revB/Drivers/dwlg520_revB3_drivers_318.zip
>|
>| I have successfully installed the above software on my Win98SE box
>| although I don't have any wireless cards. I notice that the
>| AirPlusCFG.exe file (D-Link AirPlus Utility) has text strings which
>| refer to WPA and WPA-2. There is also a DLL file
>| (C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WlanApp.dll) that contains various WPA and WPA2
>| functions.
>
>Look for this file:
>A3AB9x.sys


I don't have it.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

In news:8ted64pqk4el0mh831pb8pseedor9b35va@4ax.com at ,
Franc Zabkar contemplated and posted:
| On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:07:43 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
|>"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
|>news:bglb641o9qdsc0pbas1chjmlncrn2940f4@4ax.com...
|
|>ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg520_revB/Drivers/dwlg520_revB3_drivers_31
8.zip
|>|
|>| I have successfully installed the above software on my Win98SE box
|>| although I don't have any wireless cards. I notice that the
|>| AirPlusCFG.exe file (D-Link AirPlus Utility) has text strings which
|>| refer to WPA and WPA-2. There is also a DLL file
|>| (C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WlanApp.dll) that contains various WPA and WPA2
|>| functions.
|>
|>Look for this file:
|>A3AB9x.sys
|
| I don't have it.
|
| - Franc Zabkar

That file is referenced within the installer files as being installed in 9X
installations, thought it might be instructive.

;Copyright (c) 2004 D-Link Corporation, Incorporated All Rights Reserved
;
;Module Name:
;
; netA3AB.inf

;
;Abstract:
; For US
; INF file for installing D-Link 802.11a/b/g Wireless Adapter
;
; Installs A3AB.sys (NDIS 5/5.1 driver) on NT platforms (2000, XP and
greater)
; Installs A3AB9x.sys (NDIS 5 driver) on 9x platforms
....
; A3AB Win9x specific
;
[A3AB.win.reg]
HKR, , DevLoader, 0, "*ndis"
HKR, , DeviceVxDs, 0, "A3AB9x.sys"
....
HKR, NDIS, LogDriverName, 0, "A3AB9X"
HKR, NDIS, MajorNdisVersion, 1, 03
HKR, NDIS, MinorNdisVersion, 1, 0A
HKR, , InitFile, 0, %InitFile%
HKR, , aifs, 0, 2
HKR, , cwmin, 0, 15

HKR, Ndi\Install, ndis3, 0, "A3AB.install"
....
; DestinationDirs
;
[A3AB.win.CopyFiles]
A3AB9x.sys,,,2
....
[SourceDisksFiles]
A3AB9x.sys = 1,, ; on distribution disk 1
....


--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________
 
Re: Wireless Access Windows 98SE

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:34:01 -0700, A Team <A
Team@discussions.microsoft.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Alternatively, is there a way I can use WPA with Win 98?
>If I'm stuck on WEP, what degree of security am I missing out on?


http://www.pcpro.co.uk/features/206529/7-expert-secure-thy-self.html

"After secretly examining 300 wireless access points used by companies
exhibiting in Germany [at the 2006 CeBIT trade fair in Hannover],
Kaspersky revealed 56% of them had no encryption at all, while the
remaining 44% used the easily broken WEP protocol."

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/features/196350/10-rattle-your-router.html

"You should also change the default wireless security options -
assuming any are being used at all - and make sure it still isn't
running WEP. 'WEP is well and truly cracked,' says Fogerty. 'It's
cracked within one or two minutes. Most routers now support WPA/WPA2 -
ditch WEP and just use WPA.'"

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
Back
Top