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CdLsRN
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How do you create a tiny url, please.
T
Tim Slattery
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Re: tiny urls
"CdLsRN" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote:
>How do you create a tiny url, please.
www.tinyurl.com
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"CdLsRN" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote:
>How do you create a tiny url, please.
www.tinyurl.com
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MS MVP(Shell/User)
Slattery_T@bls.gov
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glee
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Re: tiny urls
"CdLsRN" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> How do you create a tiny url, please.
Don't feed it when it's young....
(See Tim's reply if you want the real answer)
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http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
"CdLsRN" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> How do you create a tiny url, please.
Don't feed it when it's young....
(See Tim's reply if you want the real answer)
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
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Etal
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Re: tiny urls
Franc Zabkar wrote:
> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden
> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site.
Any site can /try to/ redirect my requests .. but i want to be
given half a chance to know if the destination is something i
might be interested in.
That's why i dislike them, like when you see someone writing
"It's all explained if you look at prot://tiny_url/xzrt".
Not just because of the malware-threat, but i have no idea if
that links to a resource i have visited already or maybe to a
resource i know i have no interest in.
IMO. Just enclose your long links in < and > instead.
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Franc Zabkar wrote:
> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden
> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site.
Any site can /try to/ redirect my requests .. but i want to be
given half a chance to know if the destination is something i
might be interested in.
That's why i dislike them, like when you see someone writing
"It's all explained if you look at prot://tiny_url/xzrt".
Not just because of the malware-threat, but i have no idea if
that links to a resource i have visited already or maybe to a
resource i know i have no interest in.
IMO. Just enclose your long links in < and > instead.
--
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Please followup in the newsgroup.
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Franc Zabkar
Guest
Re: tiny urls
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:54:40 +0200, Etal
<look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>Franc Zabkar wrote:
>
>> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden
>> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site.
>
>Any site can /try to/ redirect my requests .. but i want to be
>given half a chance to know if the destination is something i
>might be interested in.
>
>That's why i dislike them, like when you see someone writing
>"It's all explained if you look at prot://tiny_url/xzrt".
>Not just because of the malware-threat, but i have no idea if
>that links to a resource i have visited already or maybe to a
>resource i know i have no interest in.
>
>IMO. Just enclose your long links in < and > instead.
TinyURL now has a preview option.
For example, this is a link to your message at the Google Groups
archive:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/4k4dd6
The above page displays the following:
===========================================================
Preview of TinyURL.com/4k4dd6
This TinyURL redirects to:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.publ
ic.win98.gen_discussion/msg/cec889628616a566
===========================================================
- Franc Zabkar
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:54:40 +0200, Etal
<look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>Franc Zabkar wrote:
>
>> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden
>> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site.
>
>Any site can /try to/ redirect my requests .. but i want to be
>given half a chance to know if the destination is something i
>might be interested in.
>
>That's why i dislike them, like when you see someone writing
>"It's all explained if you look at prot://tiny_url/xzrt".
>Not just because of the malware-threat, but i have no idea if
>that links to a resource i have visited already or maybe to a
>resource i know i have no interest in.
>
>IMO. Just enclose your long links in < and > instead.
TinyURL now has a preview option.
For example, this is a link to your message at the Google Groups
archive:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/4k4dd6
The above page displays the following:
===========================================================
Preview of TinyURL.com/4k4dd6
This TinyURL redirects to:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.publ
ic.win98.gen_discussion/msg/cec889628616a566
===========================================================
- Franc Zabkar
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Gary S. Terhune
Guest
Re: tiny urls
Yeah, I should put that one into my Links folder instead of the standard
one.
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MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com
"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:hnc364p3dv1m5q7j205ha60pss5is5gp7a@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:54:40 +0200, Etal
> <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>
>>> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden
>>> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site.
>>
>>Any site can /try to/ redirect my requests .. but i want to be
>>given half a chance to know if the destination is something i
>>might be interested in.
>>
>>That's why i dislike them, like when you see someone writing
>>"It's all explained if you look at prot://tiny_url/xzrt".
>>Not just because of the malware-threat, but i have no idea if
>>that links to a resource i have visited already or maybe to a
>>resource i know i have no interest in.
>>
>>IMO. Just enclose your long links in < and > instead.
>
> TinyURL now has a preview option.
>
> For example, this is a link to your message at the Google Groups
> archive:
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/4k4dd6
>
> The above page displays the following:
>
> ===========================================================
> Preview of TinyURL.com/4k4dd6
>
> This TinyURL redirects to:
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.publ
> ic.win98.gen_discussion/msg/cec889628616a566
> ===========================================================
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
Yeah, I should put that one into my Links folder instead of the standard
one.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com
"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:hnc364p3dv1m5q7j205ha60pss5is5gp7a@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:54:40 +0200, Etal
> <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>
>>> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden
>>> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site.
>>
>>Any site can /try to/ redirect my requests .. but i want to be
>>given half a chance to know if the destination is something i
>>might be interested in.
>>
>>That's why i dislike them, like when you see someone writing
>>"It's all explained if you look at prot://tiny_url/xzrt".
>>Not just because of the malware-threat, but i have no idea if
>>that links to a resource i have visited already or maybe to a
>>resource i know i have no interest in.
>>
>>IMO. Just enclose your long links in < and > instead.
>
> TinyURL now has a preview option.
>
> For example, this is a link to your message at the Google Groups
> archive:
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/4k4dd6
>
> The above page displays the following:
>
> ===========================================================
> Preview of TinyURL.com/4k4dd6
>
> This TinyURL redirects to:
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.publ
> ic.win98.gen_discussion/msg/cec889628616a566
> ===========================================================
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
F
Franc Zabkar
Guest
Re: tiny urls
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:11:12 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> put
finger to keyboard and composed:
>Nope, can't make it so the Preview link is copied to the clipboard
>automatically. I'll stick with normal TinyURLs and try to remember that it's
>a good thing to include the real link, then the TinyURL, like I usually do.
I'm not sure what you are trying to do. If you are the creator of a
particular tiny URL, then the tinyURL web site gives you two options,
a direct link and a preview link. AFAICT, you would just need to post
the preview URL instead of the direct one. Or did I misunderstand you?
>However, going at it from a different angle, those who wish to can enable a
>cookie that will cause any TinyURL link to be redirected to the Preview
>page. You enable/disable that here:
>http://tinyurl.com/preview.php
- Franc Zabkar
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:11:12 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> put
finger to keyboard and composed:
>Nope, can't make it so the Preview link is copied to the clipboard
>automatically. I'll stick with normal TinyURLs and try to remember that it's
>a good thing to include the real link, then the TinyURL, like I usually do.
I'm not sure what you are trying to do. If you are the creator of a
particular tiny URL, then the tinyURL web site gives you two options,
a direct link and a preview link. AFAICT, you would just need to post
the preview URL instead of the direct one. Or did I misunderstand you?
>However, going at it from a different angle, those who wish to can enable a
>cookie that will cause any TinyURL link to be redirected to the Preview
>page. You enable/disable that here:
>http://tinyurl.com/preview.php
- Franc Zabkar
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G
Gary S. Terhune
Guest
Re: tiny urls
"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news
9e564167vq21l2j0mmim7ogj3jic1ph7e@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:11:12 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> put
> finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>Nope, can't make it so the Preview link is copied to the clipboard
>>automatically. I'll stick with normal TinyURLs and try to remember that
>>it's
>>a good thing to include the real link, then the TinyURL, like I usually
>>do.
>
> I'm not sure what you are trying to do. If you are the creator of a
> particular tiny URL, then the tinyURL web site gives you two options,
> a direct link and a preview link. AFAICT, you would just need to post
> the preview URL instead of the direct one. Or did I misunderstand you?
TinyURL has a shortcut that you ca put into the Links folder in IE and when
you click the link, it takes you to TinyURL page AND copies the TinyURL to
the Clipboard for easy pasting. But that's the TinyURL, not the Preview
link. To get that, I'd have to wait for the TinyURL page to laod and then
copy the Preview URL from the page before I could paste it. WHen I hit that
shortcut in the Links bar, by the time I get back to teh OE message I'm
working on, the TinyURL is already on teh clipboard and a quick Ctrl-V
finishes the job. Getting teh Preview TinyURL into a message would take
three times longer or more.
--
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MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com
"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news
9e564167vq21l2j0mmim7ogj3jic1ph7e@4ax.com...> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:11:12 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> put
> finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>Nope, can't make it so the Preview link is copied to the clipboard
>>automatically. I'll stick with normal TinyURLs and try to remember that
>>it's
>>a good thing to include the real link, then the TinyURL, like I usually
>>do.
>
> I'm not sure what you are trying to do. If you are the creator of a
> particular tiny URL, then the tinyURL web site gives you two options,
> a direct link and a preview link. AFAICT, you would just need to post
> the preview URL instead of the direct one. Or did I misunderstand you?
TinyURL has a shortcut that you ca put into the Links folder in IE and when
you click the link, it takes you to TinyURL page AND copies the TinyURL to
the Clipboard for easy pasting. But that's the TinyURL, not the Preview
link. To get that, I'd have to wait for the TinyURL page to laod and then
copy the Preview URL from the page before I could paste it. WHen I hit that
shortcut in the Links bar, by the time I get back to teh OE message I'm
working on, the TinyURL is already on teh clipboard and a quick Ctrl-V
finishes the job. Getting teh Preview TinyURL into a message would take
three times longer or more.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com
E
Etal
Guest
Re: tiny urls
Franc Zabkar wrote:
> Etal composed:
>
>> Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>
>>> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden
>>> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site.
[snip]
>
> TinyURL now has a preview option.
>
> For example, this is a link to your message at the Google Groups
> archive:
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/4k4dd6
>
> The above page displays the following:
>
> ===========================================================
> Preview of TinyURL.com/4k4dd6
>
> This TinyURL redirects to:
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.publ
> ic.win98.gen_discussion/msg/cec889628616a566
> ===========================================================
>
I didn't know about that, thanks. <http://preview.tinyurl.com/>
now bookmarked should i come across one of them tiny devils that
entices me enough to want to click on it.
I tried to see if that was possible with one of them short-URL
places a couple of years ago but didn't see a way then. Good to
see that it's not only me and that there seem to be pressure to
provide that possibility.
--
Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion.
Please followup in the newsgroup.
E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.
Franc Zabkar wrote:
> Etal composed:
>
>> Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>
>>> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden
>>> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site.
[snip]
>
> TinyURL now has a preview option.
>
> For example, this is a link to your message at the Google Groups
> archive:
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/4k4dd6
>
> The above page displays the following:
>
> ===========================================================
> Preview of TinyURL.com/4k4dd6
>
> This TinyURL redirects to:
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.publ
> ic.win98.gen_discussion/msg/cec889628616a566
> ===========================================================
>
I didn't know about that, thanks. <http://preview.tinyurl.com/>
now bookmarked should i come across one of them tiny devils that
entices me enough to want to click on it.
I tried to see if that was possible with one of them short-URL
places a couple of years ago but didn't see a way then. Good to
see that it's not only me and that there seem to be pressure to
provide that possibility.
--
Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion.
Please followup in the newsgroup.
E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.
F
Franc Zabkar
Guest
Re: tiny urls
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:30:43 +0200, Etal
<look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>Franc Zabkar wrote:
>
>> Etal composed:
>>
>>> Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden
>>>> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site.
>
> [snip]
>
>>
>> TinyURL now has a preview option.
>>
>> For example, this is a link to your message at the Google Groups
>> archive:
>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/4k4dd6
>>
>> The above page displays the following:
>>
>> ===========================================================
>> Preview of TinyURL.com/4k4dd6
>>
>> This TinyURL redirects to:
>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.publ
>> ic.win98.gen_discussion/msg/cec889628616a566
>> ===========================================================
>>
>
>I didn't know about that, thanks. <http://preview.tinyurl.com/>
>now bookmarked should i come across one of them tiny devils that
>entices me enough to want to click on it.
>
>I tried to see if that was possible with one of them short-URL
>places a couple of years ago but didn't see a way then. Good to
>see that it's not only me and that there seem to be pressure to
>provide that possibility.
BTW, this is the first message I posted to this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/msg/f3ef866429913786
The MS news server's bot filtered it on my first attempt, so I had to
use my own ISP's news server to repost it. Other people who are
getting their news feed exclusively from MS wouldn't have seen it.
- Franc Zabkar
--
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:30:43 +0200, Etal
<look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>Franc Zabkar wrote:
>
>> Etal composed:
>>
>>> Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden
>>>> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site.
>
> [snip]
>
>>
>> TinyURL now has a preview option.
>>
>> For example, this is a link to your message at the Google Groups
>> archive:
>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/4k4dd6
>>
>> The above page displays the following:
>>
>> ===========================================================
>> Preview of TinyURL.com/4k4dd6
>>
>> This TinyURL redirects to:
>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.publ
>> ic.win98.gen_discussion/msg/cec889628616a566
>> ===========================================================
>>
>
>I didn't know about that, thanks. <http://preview.tinyurl.com/>
>now bookmarked should i come across one of them tiny devils that
>entices me enough to want to click on it.
>
>I tried to see if that was possible with one of them short-URL
>places a couple of years ago but didn't see a way then. Good to
>see that it's not only me and that there seem to be pressure to
>provide that possibility.
BTW, this is the first message I posted to this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/msg/f3ef866429913786
The MS news server's bot filtered it on my first attempt, so I had to
use my own ISP's news server to repost it. Other people who are
getting their news feed exclusively from MS wouldn't have seen it.
- Franc Zabkar
--
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G
Gary S. Terhune
Guest
Re: tiny urls
Why would a message posted on a different news server manage to get by the
MS bots when a direct connection gets it filtered out? Puzzles me.
I've have had many totally acceptable messages dumped over the last month or
two. Mostly, I just totally rewrite the message and try it again.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com
"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:hfh66413une13tgv69lm76k91dmvsqbqfq@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:30:43 +0200, Etal
> <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>
>>> Etal composed:
>>>
>>>> Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden
>>>>> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site.
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>>
>>> TinyURL now has a preview option.
>>>
>>> For example, this is a link to your message at the Google Groups
>>> archive:
>>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/4k4dd6
>>>
>>> The above page displays the following:
>>>
>>> ===========================================================
>>> Preview of TinyURL.com/4k4dd6
>>>
>>> This TinyURL redirects to:
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.publ
>>> ic.win98.gen_discussion/msg/cec889628616a566
>>> ===========================================================
>>>
>>
>>I didn't know about that, thanks. <http://preview.tinyurl.com/>
>>now bookmarked should i come across one of them tiny devils that
>>entices me enough to want to click on it.
>>
>>I tried to see if that was possible with one of them short-URL
>>places a couple of years ago but didn't see a way then. Good to
>>see that it's not only me and that there seem to be pressure to
>>provide that possibility.
>
> BTW, this is the first message I posted to this thread:
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/msg/f3ef866429913786
>
> The MS news server's bot filtered it on my first attempt, so I had to
> use my own ISP's news server to repost it. Other people who are
> getting their news feed exclusively from MS wouldn't have seen it.
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
Why would a message posted on a different news server manage to get by the
MS bots when a direct connection gets it filtered out? Puzzles me.
I've have had many totally acceptable messages dumped over the last month or
two. Mostly, I just totally rewrite the message and try it again.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com
"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:hfh66413une13tgv69lm76k91dmvsqbqfq@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:30:43 +0200, Etal
> <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>
>>> Etal composed:
>>>
>>>> Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden
>>>>> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site.
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>>
>>> TinyURL now has a preview option.
>>>
>>> For example, this is a link to your message at the Google Groups
>>> archive:
>>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/4k4dd6
>>>
>>> The above page displays the following:
>>>
>>> ===========================================================
>>> Preview of TinyURL.com/4k4dd6
>>>
>>> This TinyURL redirects to:
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.publ
>>> ic.win98.gen_discussion/msg/cec889628616a566
>>> ===========================================================
>>>
>>
>>I didn't know about that, thanks. <http://preview.tinyurl.com/>
>>now bookmarked should i come across one of them tiny devils that
>>entices me enough to want to click on it.
>>
>>I tried to see if that was possible with one of them short-URL
>>places a couple of years ago but didn't see a way then. Good to
>>see that it's not only me and that there seem to be pressure to
>>provide that possibility.
>
> BTW, this is the first message I posted to this thread:
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/msg/f3ef866429913786
>
> The MS news server's bot filtered it on my first attempt, so I had to
> use my own ISP's news server to repost it. Other people who are
> getting their news feed exclusively from MS wouldn't have seen it.
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
M
MEB
Guest
Re: tiny urls
Well, I got it I think... the original... from MS according to the header on
the link you posted and the one in OE...
Was it this one:
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:06:56 -0500
Subject: Re: tiny urls
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:06:58 +1000
X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 121.44.34.84
Path: {several
deleted}local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.posted.internode!news.posted.inte
rnode.POSTED!not-for-mail
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"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:hfh66413une13tgv69lm76k91dmvsqbqfq@4ax.com...
| On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:30:43 +0200, Etal
| <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
| >Franc Zabkar wrote:
| >
| >> Etal composed:
| >>
| >>> Franc Zabkar wrote:
| >>>
| >>>> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden
| >>>> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site.
| >
| > [snip]
| >
| >>
| >> TinyURL now has a preview option.
| >>
| >> For example, this is a link to your message at the Google Groups
| >> archive:
| >> http://preview.tinyurl.com/4k4dd6
| >>
| >> The above page displays the following:
| >>
| >> ===========================================================
| >> Preview of TinyURL.com/4k4dd6
| >>
| >> This TinyURL redirects to:
| >> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.publ
| >> ic.win98.gen_discussion/msg/cec889628616a566
| >> ===========================================================
| >>
| >
| >I didn't know about that, thanks. <http://preview.tinyurl.com/>
| >now bookmarked should i come across one of them tiny devils that
| >entices me enough to want to click on it.
| >
| >I tried to see if that was possible with one of them short-URL
| >places a couple of years ago but didn't see a way then. Good to
| >see that it's not only me and that there seem to be pressure to
| >provide that possibility.
|
| BTW, this is the first message I posted to this thread:
|
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/msg/f3ef866429913786
|
| The MS news server's bot filtered it on my first attempt, so I had to
| use my own ISP's news server to repost it. Other people who are
| getting their news feed exclusively from MS wouldn't have seen it.
|
| - Franc Zabkar
| --
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
Well, I got it I think... the original... from MS according to the header on
the link you posted and the one in OE...
Was it this one:
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:06:56 -0500
Subject: Re: tiny urls
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:06:58 +1000
X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 121.44.34.84
Path: {several
deleted}local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.posted.internode!news.posted.inte
rnode.POSTED!not-for-mail
--
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http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________
"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:hfh66413une13tgv69lm76k91dmvsqbqfq@4ax.com...
| On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:30:43 +0200, Etal
| <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
| >Franc Zabkar wrote:
| >
| >> Etal composed:
| >>
| >>> Franc Zabkar wrote:
| >>>
| >>>> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden
| >>>> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site.
| >
| > [snip]
| >
| >>
| >> TinyURL now has a preview option.
| >>
| >> For example, this is a link to your message at the Google Groups
| >> archive:
| >> http://preview.tinyurl.com/4k4dd6
| >>
| >> The above page displays the following:
| >>
| >> ===========================================================
| >> Preview of TinyURL.com/4k4dd6
| >>
| >> This TinyURL redirects to:
| >> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.publ
| >> ic.win98.gen_discussion/msg/cec889628616a566
| >> ===========================================================
| >>
| >
| >I didn't know about that, thanks. <http://preview.tinyurl.com/>
| >now bookmarked should i come across one of them tiny devils that
| >entices me enough to want to click on it.
| >
| >I tried to see if that was possible with one of them short-URL
| >places a couple of years ago but didn't see a way then. Good to
| >see that it's not only me and that there seem to be pressure to
| >provide that possibility.
|
| BTW, this is the first message I posted to this thread:
|
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/msg/f3ef866429913786
|
| The MS news server's bot filtered it on my first attempt, so I had to
| use my own ISP's news server to repost it. Other people who are
| getting their news feed exclusively from MS wouldn't have seen it.
|
| - Franc Zabkar
| --
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
F
Franc Zabkar
Guest
Re: tiny urls
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:10:45 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> put
finger to keyboard and composed:
>Why would a message posted on a different news server manage to get by the
>MS bots when a direct connection gets it filtered out? Puzzles me.
My newsreader, Agent, allows me to use several news servers in my
"access plan". My own messages are posted using the first available
server in the plan. If news.microsoft.com is first, then its bot
filters my messages, dumps any it doesn't like, and doesn't pass them
on to the wider Internet. So nobody sees them. If
news.internode.on.net is first, then it accepts all of my messages and
propagates them to other news servers, including, but not limited to,
news.microsoft.com. I see every message in my news feed because I
retrieve messages from all news servers in my access plan, not just
MS. Etal can see my posts because he gets his feed from nntp.aioe.org.
You, however, will not see my filtered messages if MS is your sole
provider.
To put it another way, my message is posted to news.internode.on.net
which then propagates it to nntp.aioe.org and news.microsoft.com. Etal
and I can see it in our own news feeds, but MS filters it before it
can be delivered to you.
- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:10:45 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> put
finger to keyboard and composed:
>Why would a message posted on a different news server manage to get by the
>MS bots when a direct connection gets it filtered out? Puzzles me.
My newsreader, Agent, allows me to use several news servers in my
"access plan". My own messages are posted using the first available
server in the plan. If news.microsoft.com is first, then its bot
filters my messages, dumps any it doesn't like, and doesn't pass them
on to the wider Internet. So nobody sees them. If
news.internode.on.net is first, then it accepts all of my messages and
propagates them to other news servers, including, but not limited to,
news.microsoft.com. I see every message in my news feed because I
retrieve messages from all news servers in my access plan, not just
MS. Etal can see my posts because he gets his feed from nntp.aioe.org.
You, however, will not see my filtered messages if MS is your sole
provider.
To put it another way, my message is posted to news.internode.on.net
which then propagates it to nntp.aioe.org and news.microsoft.com. Etal
and I can see it in our own news feeds, but MS filters it before it
can be delivered to you.
- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
E
Etal
Guest
Re: tiny urls
Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>>
>>>> Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden
>>>>> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site.
>> [snip]
>>
>
> BTW, this is the first message I posted to this thread:
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/msg/f3ef866429913786
>
> The MS news server's bot filtered it on my first attempt, so I had to
> use my own ISP's news server to repost it. Other people who are
> getting their news feed exclusively from MS wouldn't have seen it.
>
( You aren't trying to write about rising waters again, are you?
;-) )
That link opens Message-ID:
<news:tdo2641auo01ggil7rc2hl7cjhmnd7vvfs@4ax.com>.
That is the post to which i made a followup and that there is a
remnant of at the top.
If one look at the threads layout at google-groups:
<http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/browse_frm/thread/be745ca45229236e/>,
it looks the same as what i see via AIOE, but i just downloaded
the group-headers from <news:msnews.microsoft.com> and your post
is indeed missing there. Too bad for the ones using that server
that i snipped your excellent on topic advice to the OP,
'CdLsRN', or rather i was lucky doing it or my post wouldn't have
gotten through to them either i suppose. So unless it was just a
glitch at there servers, if i'll try to repost/quote your advice
here without knowing the offending word it would just be filtered
there again. :-(
--
Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion.
Please followup in the newsgroup.
E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.
Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>>
>>>> Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just be careful using short URLs that don't preview the hidden
>>>>> destination. They could easily redirect you to a malware site.
>> [snip]
>>
>
> BTW, this is the first message I posted to this thread:
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/msg/f3ef866429913786
>
> The MS news server's bot filtered it on my first attempt, so I had to
> use my own ISP's news server to repost it. Other people who are
> getting their news feed exclusively from MS wouldn't have seen it.
>
( You aren't trying to write about rising waters again, are you?
;-) )
That link opens Message-ID:
<news:tdo2641auo01ggil7rc2hl7cjhmnd7vvfs@4ax.com>.
That is the post to which i made a followup and that there is a
remnant of at the top.
If one look at the threads layout at google-groups:
<http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/browse_frm/thread/be745ca45229236e/>,
it looks the same as what i see via AIOE, but i just downloaded
the group-headers from <news:msnews.microsoft.com> and your post
is indeed missing there. Too bad for the ones using that server
that i snipped your excellent on topic advice to the OP,
'CdLsRN', or rather i was lucky doing it or my post wouldn't have
gotten through to them either i suppose. So unless it was just a
glitch at there servers, if i'll try to repost/quote your advice
here without knowing the offending word it would just be filtered
there again. :-(
--
Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion.
Please followup in the newsgroup.
E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.
F
Franc Zabkar
Guest
Re: tiny urls
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:34:15 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:
>Well, I got it I think... the original... from MS according to the header on
>the link you posted and the one in OE...
>
>Was it this one:
>NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:06:56 -0500
>Subject: Re: tiny urls
>Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:06:58 +1000
>X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
>NNTP-Posting-Host: 121.44.34.84
>Path: {several
>deleted}local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.posted.internode!news.posted.inte
>rnode.POSTED!not-for-mail
>
>
>--
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
Sorry, I'm being somewhat ambiguous. What you are seeing is my second
attempt ... when I reposted successfully via Internode (which uses
Giganews).
I posted the same message to the MS news server first, but it didn't
show up in my news feed.
This was the attempt that didn't get through:
=====================================================
From: Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Subject: Re: tiny urls
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 06:29:40 +1000
Organization: Bachelor Life Ltd
Reply-To: fzabkar@iinternode.on.net
Message-ID: <09m264ts5mbus2ihfau6neog9v8mhg92hc@4ax.com>
References: <uCyREsi1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846
=====================================================
If you search for the above Message-ID at Google Groups ...
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=09m264ts5mbus2ihfau6neog9v8mhg92hc@4ax.com
.... you get ...
"The requested message, 09m264ts5mbus2ihfau6neog9v8mhg92hc@4ax.com,
could not be found."
- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:34:15 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:
>Well, I got it I think... the original... from MS according to the header on
>the link you posted and the one in OE...
>
>Was it this one:
>NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:06:56 -0500
>Subject: Re: tiny urls
>Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:06:58 +1000
>X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
>NNTP-Posting-Host: 121.44.34.84
>Path: {several
>deleted}local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.posted.internode!news.posted.inte
>rnode.POSTED!not-for-mail
>
>
>--
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
Sorry, I'm being somewhat ambiguous. What you are seeing is my second
attempt ... when I reposted successfully via Internode (which uses
Giganews).
I posted the same message to the MS news server first, but it didn't
show up in my news feed.
This was the attempt that didn't get through:
=====================================================
From: Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Subject: Re: tiny urls
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 06:29:40 +1000
Organization: Bachelor Life Ltd
Reply-To: fzabkar@iinternode.on.net
Message-ID: <09m264ts5mbus2ihfau6neog9v8mhg92hc@4ax.com>
References: <uCyREsi1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846
=====================================================
If you search for the above Message-ID at Google Groups ...
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=09m264ts5mbus2ihfau6neog9v8mhg92hc@4ax.com
.... you get ...
"The requested message, 09m264ts5mbus2ihfau6neog9v8mhg92hc@4ax.com,
could not be found."
- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
M
MEB
Guest
Re: tiny urls
Okay, that's why I posted that information to confirm... it just SEEMED to
be the same as the times were identical.
So what are you doing - multi-posting via several services at the same
time? That would produce multiples which WOULD be filtered depending upon
which came through first. That also might trigger Spam filters.
The only way I can get multiple posts to appear is: such as recently in
"Re: Microsoft Phasing Out Win98 !?" in which the MS server never returned
the "received/posted" due to access failure, and upon re-connect, the
message was resent.
My reader shows two response from me containing the exact same message.
--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________
"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:nlt664l211u2qh36jf3cft45sbo2htrr4i@4ax.com...
| On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:34:15 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
| >Well, I got it I think... the original... from MS according to the header
on
| >the link you posted and the one in OE...
| >
| >Was it this one:
| >NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:06:56 -0500
| >Subject: Re: tiny urls
| >Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:06:58 +1000
| >X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
| >NNTP-Posting-Host: 121.44.34.84
| >Path: {several
|
>deleted}local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.posted.internode!news.posted.int
e
| >rnode.POSTED!not-for-mail
| >
| >
| >--
| > MEB
| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|
| Sorry, I'm being somewhat ambiguous. What you are seeing is my second
| attempt ... when I reposted successfully via Internode (which uses
| Giganews).
|
| I posted the same message to the MS news server first, but it didn't
| show up in my news feed.
|
| This was the attempt that didn't get through:
|
| =====================================================
| From: Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net>
| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| Subject: Re: tiny urls
| Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 06:29:40 +1000
| Organization: Bachelor Life Ltd
| Reply-To: fzabkar@iinternode.on.net
| Message-ID: <09m264ts5mbus2ihfau6neog9v8mhg92hc@4ax.com>
| References: <uCyREsi1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
| X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846
| =====================================================
|
| If you search for the above Message-ID at Google Groups ...
|
|
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=09m264ts5mbus2ihfau6neog9v8mhg92hc@4ax.com
|
| ... you get ...
|
| "The requested message, 09m264ts5mbus2ihfau6neog9v8mhg92hc@4ax.com,
| could not be found."
|
| - Franc Zabkar
| --
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
Okay, that's why I posted that information to confirm... it just SEEMED to
be the same as the times were identical.
So what are you doing - multi-posting via several services at the same
time? That would produce multiples which WOULD be filtered depending upon
which came through first. That also might trigger Spam filters.
The only way I can get multiple posts to appear is: such as recently in
"Re: Microsoft Phasing Out Win98 !?" in which the MS server never returned
the "received/posted" due to access failure, and upon re-connect, the
message was resent.
My reader shows two response from me containing the exact same message.
--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________
"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:nlt664l211u2qh36jf3cft45sbo2htrr4i@4ax.com...
| On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:34:15 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
| >Well, I got it I think... the original... from MS according to the header
on
| >the link you posted and the one in OE...
| >
| >Was it this one:
| >NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:06:56 -0500
| >Subject: Re: tiny urls
| >Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:06:58 +1000
| >X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
| >NNTP-Posting-Host: 121.44.34.84
| >Path: {several
|
>deleted}local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.posted.internode!news.posted.int
e
| >rnode.POSTED!not-for-mail
| >
| >
| >--
| > MEB
| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|
| Sorry, I'm being somewhat ambiguous. What you are seeing is my second
| attempt ... when I reposted successfully via Internode (which uses
| Giganews).
|
| I posted the same message to the MS news server first, but it didn't
| show up in my news feed.
|
| This was the attempt that didn't get through:
|
| =====================================================
| From: Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net>
| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| Subject: Re: tiny urls
| Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 06:29:40 +1000
| Organization: Bachelor Life Ltd
| Reply-To: fzabkar@iinternode.on.net
| Message-ID: <09m264ts5mbus2ihfau6neog9v8mhg92hc@4ax.com>
| References: <uCyREsi1IHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
| X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846
| =====================================================
|
| If you search for the above Message-ID at Google Groups ...
|
|
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=09m264ts5mbus2ihfau6neog9v8mhg92hc@4ax.com
|
| ... you get ...
|
| "The requested message, 09m264ts5mbus2ihfau6neog9v8mhg92hc@4ax.com,
| could not be found."
|
| - Franc Zabkar
| --
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
F
Franc Zabkar
Guest
Re: tiny urls
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:34:49 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:
>Okay, that's why I posted that information to confirm... it just SEEMED to
>be the same as the times were identical.
> So what are you doing - multi-posting via several services at the same
>time?
No, I use only one server for posting each message. Messages to MS NGs
default to the MS news server, messages to other NGs go via my ISP's
news server. Only when I have difficulty posting a particular message
to an MS group do I temporarily switch to using my ISP's news server.
>That would produce multiples which WOULD be filtered depending upon
>which came through first. That also might trigger Spam filters.
That doesn't happen. I only use both servers when *receiving*
messages. This allows me to minimise the effects of a broken news
feed, ie one server may have parts of a thread that the other doesn't.
- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:34:49 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:
>Okay, that's why I posted that information to confirm... it just SEEMED to
>be the same as the times were identical.
> So what are you doing - multi-posting via several services at the same
>time?
No, I use only one server for posting each message. Messages to MS NGs
default to the MS news server, messages to other NGs go via my ISP's
news server. Only when I have difficulty posting a particular message
to an MS group do I temporarily switch to using my ISP's news server.
>That would produce multiples which WOULD be filtered depending upon
>which came through first. That also might trigger Spam filters.
That doesn't happen. I only use both servers when *receiving*
messages. This allows me to minimise the effects of a broken news
feed, ie one server may have parts of a thread that the other doesn't.
- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
M
MEB
Guest
Re: tiny urls
"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:n60864pedn42gi617k9je0nlihdo5h12td@4ax.com...
| On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:34:49 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
| >Okay, that's why I posted that information to confirm... it just SEEMED
to
| >be the same as the times were identical.
| > So what are you doing - multi-posting via several services at the same
| >time?
|
| No, I use only one server for posting each message. Messages to MS NGs
| default to the MS news server, messages to other NGs go via my ISP's
| news server. Only when I have difficulty posting a particular message
| to an MS group do I temporarily switch to using my ISP's news server.
|
| >That would produce multiples which WOULD be filtered depending upon
| >which came through first. That also might trigger Spam filters.
|
| That doesn't happen. I only use both servers when *receiving*
| messages. This allows me to minimise the effects of a broken news
| feed, ie one server may have parts of a thread that the other doesn't.
|
| - Franc Zabkar
| --
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
Okay, just clarifying. Like I said, my query was based upon the compared
times indicated rather than the actual post indicator.
But yeah, depending upon where you receive your news, it may have lots of
materials not on MS..
--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________
"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:n60864pedn42gi617k9je0nlihdo5h12td@4ax.com...
| On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:34:49 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
| >Okay, that's why I posted that information to confirm... it just SEEMED
to
| >be the same as the times were identical.
| > So what are you doing - multi-posting via several services at the same
| >time?
|
| No, I use only one server for posting each message. Messages to MS NGs
| default to the MS news server, messages to other NGs go via my ISP's
| news server. Only when I have difficulty posting a particular message
| to an MS group do I temporarily switch to using my ISP's news server.
|
| >That would produce multiples which WOULD be filtered depending upon
| >which came through first. That also might trigger Spam filters.
|
| That doesn't happen. I only use both servers when *receiving*
| messages. This allows me to minimise the effects of a broken news
| feed, ie one server may have parts of a thread that the other doesn't.
|
| - Franc Zabkar
| --
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
Okay, just clarifying. Like I said, my query was based upon the compared
times indicated rather than the actual post indicator.
But yeah, depending upon where you receive your news, it may have lots of
materials not on MS..
--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________