Setting up to test apps using TS

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I’d like to set up Terminal Services (TS) in order to run my Access app, and
MS Word/Excel. I would like to test this out first, and become familiar with
it, before I actually install Server 2003 or 2005. Would appreciate it if
someone could get me started by answering a few basic questions.

I understand MS provides virtual server 2003 or 2005 to conduct such testing
in those environments without the need to purchase server 2003/2005 for
testing. Is that correct?

Next, I am unclear on just how virtual servers work. If I were installing
an actual version of Server2003, for example, I would partition the hd. As I
understand it, with a virtual server, I will not need to partition my hd to
add the server OS. Is that correct?

Without a separate partition, I am unclear how you boot up the server OS to
start testing. Do you just run it from an icon on the desktop?

Once I am up and running this virtual server, do I install Word, Excel,
Access onto the server, or will I use the existing installations on the
machine before I installed Virtual Server? That is, is Virtual Server now
running in it’s own “partition” independent of the XP Pro machine on which I
downloaded it, and so will I need to install these apps onto the virtual
server in order to setup/use TS?

I believe once I get past these basic questions, I should then be able to
follow whatever help there is with the virtual server in order to get TS up
and working on this server. But if you have any other advice, I would be
most grateful.

I very much appreciate any help on some answers.

Thanks,
Mark
 
Re: Setting up to test apps using TS

Hello Markus,

See inline

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> I'd like to set up Terminal Services (TS) in order to run my Access
> app, and MS Word/Excel. I would like to test this out first, and
> become familiar with it, before I actually install Server 2003 or
> 2005. Would appreciate it if someone could get me started by
> answering a few basic questions.
>
> I understand MS provides virtual server 2003 or 2005 to conduct such
> testing in those environments without the need to purchase server
> 2003/2005 for testing. Is that correct?

Virtual server 2005 sp1 is the actual version. You can download it for free.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/bb738033.aspx

> Next, I am unclear on just how virtual servers work. If I were
> installing an actual version of Server2003, for example, I would
> partition the hd. As I understand it, with a virtual server, I will
> not need to partition my hd to add the server OS. Is that correct?

It works like an application and looks more or less like working on real
hardware. You will do any partitioning, creating etc. filebased WITHOUT doing
anything on your physical disk. Just make sure you have diskspace and RAM/preocessor
power.

> Without a separate partition, I am unclear how you boot up the server
> OS to start testing. Do you just run it from an icon on the desktop?

If VS is installed, you have an admin console via Internet explorer for managing.
Here you create, start, configure, delete your machines and can do anything
you like.

> Once I am up and running this virtual server, do I install Word,
> Excel, Access onto the server, or will I use the existing
> installations on the machine before I installed Virtual Server? That
> is, is Virtual Server now running in it's own "partition" independent
> of the XP Pro machine on which I downloaded it, and so will I need to
> install these apps onto the virtual server in order to setup/use TS?

If VS is installed you have to built a server/workstation operating system
first, like you have real hardware. On this machine you can install Word/Excel
or whatever.

> I believe once I get past these basic questions, I should then be able
> to follow whatever help there is with the virtual server in order to
> get TS up and working on this server. But if you have any other
> advice, I would be most grateful.

As a starting point
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/virtualserver/

http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/3/4/9349f3a2-2889-4ba5-8e85-6182473c257e/VSR2_revguide.doc

> I very much appreciate any help on some answers.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
 
Re: Setting up to test apps using TS

Hello Markus,

Additional update for VS2005R2SP1 to make it full compatible with XPsp3 Vista
Sp1 and server 2008:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...9B-59F7-480B-A4B8-FB56F42E3348&displaylang=en


Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

> I'd like to set up Terminal Services (TS) in order to run my Access
> app, and MS Word/Excel. I would like to test this out first, and
> become familiar with it, before I actually install Server 2003 or
> 2005. Would appreciate it if someone could get me started by
> answering a few basic questions.
>
> I understand MS provides virtual server 2003 or 2005 to conduct such
> testing in those environments without the need to purchase server
> 2003/2005 for testing. Is that correct?
>
> Next, I am unclear on just how virtual servers work. If I were
> installing an actual version of Server2003, for example, I would
> partition the hd. As I understand it, with a virtual server, I will
> not need to partition my hd to add the server OS. Is that correct?
>
> Without a separate partition, I am unclear how you boot up the server
> OS to start testing. Do you just run it from an icon on the desktop?
>
> Once I am up and running this virtual server, do I install Word,
> Excel, Access onto the server, or will I use the existing
> installations on the machine before I installed Virtual Server? That
> is, is Virtual Server now running in it's own "partition" independent
> of the XP Pro machine on which I downloaded it, and so will I need to
> install these apps onto the virtual server in order to setup/use TS?
>
> I believe once I get past these basic questions, I should then be able
> to follow whatever help there is with the virtual server in order to
> get TS up and working on this server. But if you have any other
> advice, I would be most grateful.
>
> I very much appreciate any help on some answers.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
 
Re: Setting up to test apps using TS

Thanks, this gives me a great start.

This will sound like a silly question, but... so is Virtual server 2005 just
a testing environment, or is it an actual working server operating system
that people use to run a network?

Got lots of other questions, but they will probably get answers as I get
down and start setting things up.

Thanks,
Mark




"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> Hello Markus,
>
> See inline
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
> > I'd like to set up Terminal Services (TS) in order to run my Access
> > app, and MS Word/Excel. I would like to test this out first, and
> > become familiar with it, before I actually install Server 2003 or
> > 2005. Would appreciate it if someone could get me started by
> > answering a few basic questions.
> >
> > I understand MS provides virtual server 2003 or 2005 to conduct such
> > testing in those environments without the need to purchase server
> > 2003/2005 for testing. Is that correct?
>
> Virtual server 2005 sp1 is the actual version. You can download it for free.
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/bb738033.aspx
>
> > Next, I am unclear on just how virtual servers work. If I were
> > installing an actual version of Server2003, for example, I would
> > partition the hd. As I understand it, with a virtual server, I will
> > not need to partition my hd to add the server OS. Is that correct?
>
> It works like an application and looks more or less like working on real
> hardware. You will do any partitioning, creating etc. filebased WITHOUT doing
> anything on your physical disk. Just make sure you have diskspace and RAM/preocessor
> power.
>
> > Without a separate partition, I am unclear how you boot up the server
> > OS to start testing. Do you just run it from an icon on the desktop?
>
> If VS is installed, you have an admin console via Internet explorer for managing.
> Here you create, start, configure, delete your machines and can do anything
> you like.
>
> > Once I am up and running this virtual server, do I install Word,
> > Excel, Access onto the server, or will I use the existing
> > installations on the machine before I installed Virtual Server? That
> > is, is Virtual Server now running in it's own "partition" independent
> > of the XP Pro machine on which I downloaded it, and so will I need to
> > install these apps onto the virtual server in order to setup/use TS?
>
> If VS is installed you have to built a server/workstation operating system
> first, like you have real hardware. On this machine you can install Word/Excel
> or whatever.
>
> > I believe once I get past these basic questions, I should then be able
> > to follow whatever help there is with the virtual server in order to
> > get TS up and working on this server. But if you have any other
> > advice, I would be most grateful.
>
> As a starting point
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/virtualserver/
>
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/3/4/9349f3a2-2889-4ba5-8e85-6182473c257e/VSR2_revguide.doc
>
> > I very much appreciate any help on some answers.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mark
>
>
>
 
Re: Setting up to test apps using TS

Hello Markus,

Both. It will be used for production environment and testing. But you still
have to have the licenses ofcourse for any installed OS.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
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> Thanks, this gives me a great start.
>
> This will sound like a silly question, but... so is Virtual server
> 2005 just a testing environment, or is it an actual working server
> operating system that people use to run a network?
>
> Got lots of other questions, but they will probably get answers as I
> get down and start setting things up.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
>
>> Hello Markus,
>>
>> See inline
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> I'd like to set up Terminal Services (TS) in order to run my Access
>>> app, and MS Word/Excel. I would like to test this out first, and
>>> become familiar with it, before I actually install Server 2003 or
>>> 2005. Would appreciate it if someone could get me started by
>>> answering a few basic questions.
>>>
>>> I understand MS provides virtual server 2003 or 2005 to conduct such
>>> testing in those environments without the need to purchase server
>>> 2003/2005 for testing. Is that correct?
>>>
>> Virtual server 2005 sp1 is the actual version. You can download it
>> for free. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/bb738033.aspx
>>
>>> Next, I am unclear on just how virtual servers work. If I were
>>> installing an actual version of Server2003, for example, I would
>>> partition the hd. As I understand it, with a virtual server, I will
>>> not need to partition my hd to add the server OS. Is that correct?
>>>
>> It works like an application and looks more or less like working on
>> real hardware. You will do any partitioning, creating etc. filebased
>> WITHOUT doing anything on your physical disk. Just make sure you have
>> diskspace and RAM/preocessor power.
>>
>>> Without a separate partition, I am unclear how you boot up the
>>> server OS to start testing. Do you just run it from an icon on the
>>> desktop?
>>>
>> If VS is installed, you have an admin console via Internet explorer
>> for managing. Here you create, start, configure, delete your machines
>> and can do anything you like.
>>
>>> Once I am up and running this virtual server, do I install Word,
>>> Excel, Access onto the server, or will I use the existing
>>> installations on the machine before I installed Virtual Server?
>>> That is, is Virtual Server now running in it's own "partition"
>>> independent of the XP Pro machine on which I downloaded it, and so
>>> will I need to install these apps onto the virtual server in order
>>> to setup/use TS?
>>>
>> If VS is installed you have to built a server/workstation operating
>> system first, like you have real hardware. On this machine you can
>> install Word/Excel or whatever.
>>
>>> I believe once I get past these basic questions, I should then be
>>> able to follow whatever help there is with the virtual server in
>>> order to get TS up and working on this server. But if you have any
>>> other advice, I would be most grateful.
>>>
>> As a starting point
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/virtualserver/
>> http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/3/4/9349f3a2-2889-4ba5-8e85-
>> 6182473c257e/VSR2_revguide.doc
>>
>>> I very much appreciate any help on some answers.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mark
 
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