Re: Install but not use TS License Server?
moncho wrote:
> Hank Arnold (MVP) wrote:
>> moncho wrote:
>>> Hank Arnold (MVP) wrote:
>>>> I'm in the process of planning for a new Citrix PS 4.5 farm. New
>>>> hardware and OS. Current farm is W2K TS. License server is one of
>>>> the W2K DCs (domain is all W2K until next year).
>>>>
>>>> I want to set up the new license server on a W2003 R2 server I have
>>>> running. However, I only have 50 TSCALs. Ultimately, there will be
>>>> up to 100-125 workstations logging into the new farm.
>>>>
>>>> Can I set up the new license server without impacting the current
>>>> setup? I can't have the workstations checking into the new server
>>>> until I get the additional TSCALs....
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you upgrading to W2K3 or W2K8?
>>>
>>> If W2K8, it is more restrictive with user based licensing but
>>> I believe you still get a 90 day temporary license.
>>>
>>> Either way, you can tell your 2K3/2K8 server to point to whatever
>>> license server you want, so you should be OK with multiple license
>>> servers.
>>>
>>> I do not know how Citrix licensing works, so I cannot help you
>>> there.
>>>
>>> moncho
>>
>> Let me clarify. Currently, the domain is W2K. One of the DCs is the
>> W2K license server. Citrix runs on top of TS. My current Citrix
>> servers (W2K) are the only ones running in Application Mode. Currently
>> all users logging onto these servers authenticate with the W2K LS.
>> Since all are W2K and XP Pro, they get the "free" licenses issued.
>>
>> I'm planning to build a new set of W2K3 TS servers that all be my new
>> Citrix farm. I have a W2K3 server that I want to set up as the W2K3
>> LS. I want this to be the LS that issues licenses to workstations when
>> they log onto the new farm. I'd like to have it up and running before
>> I build the new servers/farm.
>
> OK. This sounds fine and I understand the "free" license issue.
>
>>
>> My concern is that the current users continue to use the W2K LS until
>> I have the new farm set up and start switching workstations to log
>> onto the new servers.
>>
>> I guess what I'm looking for is assurances that when I set the W2K3 LS
>> up, install the licenses and activate it that current users won't be
>> impacted until they log onto the new farm. This is because I don't
>> have sufficient licenses to cover all the workstations that will
>> ultimately access the new servers.
>
> I believe you will fine as long as your 2K systems point to the 2K
> license server and your 2K3 system point to your 2K3 license server.
> I had a dual setup myself a few years ago and I do not remember having
> any issues.
>
> Now for the W2K3 setup situation..
>
> What type of licenses are you buying, User or Device?
>
> Windows 2K3 does not count User licenses.
>
> Are you planning on moving ALL your users at once?
>
> If yes and you are using User licenses then you will have
> nothing to worry about. Just make sure that you purchase
> the correct amount of licenses in the future.
>
> TS gives each user a temporary 90 day license so you
> have a couple months to configure and install the servers you need.
> In addition, the temporary licenses is from the day EACH user
> initially logs into the system.
>
> So if on Day 1 you only have 20 User licenses and 100 people want
> to log in, your users will still be able to log on to the system
> and you will have 3 months to order your 80 additional licenses.
>
> I hope I understood your concern properly.
>
> moncho
We're getting "Per Device" licenses.
Once the new Citrix farm is up and running, yes, we will begin a rapid
transition. I plan to have the remaining licenses available and
installed before we begin the transition.
Thanks for the feedback. I think I understand and appreciate your taking
the time to explain....
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Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services