Windows Vista Best Registry Cleaner for vista

[Adam Albright]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 11:36:09 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
<jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

>"Another implied I'm smarter than you..."
>Whatever you CHOOSE to ASSUME is up to you.
>However most know what ASSUME means and again you do it.
>It seems your insecurity shows in another way since you CHOOSE to see
>what is not there.

Speaking of insecurity, you're the one attaching MVP behind your name
as if that implies some superior knowledge. <snort>
>
>"Show me ANYBODY that pretends they know what every single entry..."
>I never said any such thing.

You implied it. Read nearly any post from any MVP on any topic and you
see the underlying pattern they know more, everybody else is dumb,
blah, blah, blah. So unprofessional and self-serving. What is YOUR
Ageneda that you have to attach MVP to every post?

>But users need to know what a specific key does before letting the
>cleaner remove it.
>Your NEED to twist what is said to fuel your agenda is noted...again.

What agenda? I simply don't like boastful windbags that hide behind
MVP and pretend they know more than everybody else when time after
time they're proven wrong. Microsoft should have killed the MVP
program like they planned to do years ago BECAUSE of complaints like
mine because now it is little more than a joke with a bunch of
clueless wannabe types stinking of the groups they post to.

>"Just doing my part... to educate clueless MVPs."
>Attacking again, such a typical post from you.

You are simply too thin skinned to be here, you can't contain your
anger, you're too proud to learn, too pigheaded to admit when you're
wrong. In other words, your typical MVP.

 

[Adam Albright]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:36:32 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:

>Mr. Happy wrote:
>
>> Kerry Brown wrote:
>>
>>
>>>System Restore, Regedit, and Windows Explorer
>>>
>>
>> Don't forget Reinstall.
>>
>> Shake Hands With,
>> Mr. Happy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>It that you Doris? You're sounding more & more like the poster formally
>know as "Doris Day".
>He/she/it disappeared recently and now you appear sprouting the same
>linux loser bs.
>Well...?
>Frank


You sound just like Justin the faker that tried so hard to pass
himself off as something he wasn't...just like you constantly do
Frank.

How's that chain letter scam of yours doing? Anybody dumb enough to
send to cash yet?

 

[notachance]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

I recognize that my experiment (still 100% positive) with a
specific registry cleaner does not constitute a statistically
valid experiment, but it was MY EXPERIMENT.

This unit continues to be more responsive in many respects, with
no change in stability. Everything seems to work fine, and I've
clicked through many installed apps looking for problems. So
far, so great.

Maybe I was just lucky, but it's really a pleasure... It also
suggests that Vista speed issues justify an examination of the
Registry - and I don't know enough to go beyond that.

 

[brink]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista


Hi Everyone,

Here is my two cents on how to be safe with a registry cleaner
program:

Why use a registry cleaner program?
A: To help keep all the left over remnants of a uninstalled program out
of the registry to help prevent future errors and conflicts. Plus, when
Vista loads it reads through the registry. If you keep you registry all
nice and neat and orderly, it will read through it faster and possibly
without any problems.

1. Scanning the registry manually looking for random invalid entries is
not practical. It is only practical if you are looking for invalid
entries for a specific program with the "Find" option.

2. The registry cleaning program can give you a quick list of
"possible" invalid entries that you can then look at in the registry to
confirm whether they are or not invalid entries. Only select the ones
that you know are invalid while leaving the rest that you are unsure
about.

3. Always enable the backup or undo feature of the registry cleaner
program just in case you do accidentally delete a entry from the
registry that you should not have.

As always, use your own judgement. If you so not know what your doing,
then you would most likely be better off leaving this alone.

Hope this helps with your decisions,
Shawn


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[Frank]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

Adam Albright wrote:


>
> You sound just like Justin the faker that tried so hard to pass
> himself off as something he wasn't...just like you constantly do
> Frank.
>
> How's that chain letter scam of yours doing? Anybody dumb enough to
> send to cash yet?
>

---------------------------------------------------------------

Do you always let the bottle do you're talking for you?
That's weak...you're weak lil'georgie boy.
Grow up...get help..aa...rehab...at least do something cause you're
pathetic.
Frank

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

"as if that implies some superior knowledge"
As always you are free to ASSUME what you want.
But ASSUMPTIONS often tend to be wrong.

"see the underlying pattern they know more, everybody else is dumb,"
And yet it is YOU that needs to directly insult and let your
ASSUMPTIONS control your actions.

"Microsoft should have killed the MVP program like they planned"
Do you communicate this to Microsoft as you have previously been told?
Or it it something you continuously whine?

"I simply don't like boastful windbags"
Interesting answer when I said:
"users need to know what a specific key does"
You seem to let your emotions take control when you do not like what
is said but you can not dispute the need for users to be
knowledgeable.

"you can't contain your anger"
So you say, and yet is is you unable to communicate without insulting.
Just because you imagine anger does not make it so.
If there is anger, it seems to be you since you are the one unable to
communicate without insults.
Keep ASSUMING, typical for you.

Don't bother answering unless you can do so in a civil manner.
I doubt you have the self control to be civil, but we shall see.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:nvjv83dlo8cb1cp4vu5je3g3kmj73qk3d3@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 11:36:09 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
> <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:
>
>>"Another implied I'm smarter than you..."
>>Whatever you CHOOSE to ASSUME is up to you.
>>However most know what ASSUME means and again you do it.
>>It seems your insecurity shows in another way since you CHOOSE to
>>see
>>what is not there.
>
> Speaking of insecurity, you're the one attaching MVP behind your
> name
> as if that implies some superior knowledge. <snort>
>>
>>"Show me ANYBODY that pretends they know what every single entry..."
>>I never said any such thing.
>
> You implied it. Read nearly any post from any MVP on any topic and
> you
> see the underlying pattern they know more, everybody else is dumb,
> blah, blah, blah. So unprofessional and self-serving. What is YOUR
> Ageneda that you have to attach MVP to every post?
>
>>But users need to know what a specific key does before letting the
>>cleaner remove it.
>>Your NEED to twist what is said to fuel your agenda is
>>noted...again.
>
> What agenda? I simply don't like boastful windbags that hide behind
> MVP and pretend they know more than everybody else when time after
> time they're proven wrong. Microsoft should have killed the MVP
> program like they planned to do years ago BECAUSE of complaints like
> mine because now it is little more than a joke with a bunch of
> clueless wannabe types stinking of the groups they post to.
>
>>"Just doing my part... to educate clueless MVPs."
>>Attacking again, such a typical post from you.
>
> You are simply too thin skinned to be here, you can't contain your
> anger, you're too proud to learn, too pigheaded to admit when you're
> wrong. In other words, your typical MVP.
>

 

[Adam Albright]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 12:20:29 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
<jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

>"as if that implies some superior knowledge"
>As always you are free to ASSUME what you want.
>But ASSUMPTIONS often tend to be wrong.

Like yours that you can't get any benefit from Registry Cleaners?

 

[Steve Easton]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista


"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:02:38 -0700, notachance <nochance@all.to>
> wrote:
> I think part of the hostility towards Registry Cleaners is once upon a
> time they were garbage. Times change, things improve. Windows was once
> garbage too. It's the same knock Real Player gets. It use to include
> spyware and it got black listed, It hasn't for years, is still one of
> the best players offering some of the best compression verses quality
> you can get. Yet people hold a grudge or just are dumb and because of
> it, take your pick, won't use it. ;-)


As someone who does a little programming on the side, and one who writes using windows
APIs,
let me make a comment on registry cleaners.
Yes they will find "currently unused registry entries."
Occasionally they will actually correct a registry related problem that will prevent
installation of a program.

However, keep in mind that there are lot of static registry entries that are in place to
ensure
backwards compatibility with older programs, especially when it comes to using API calls
to ordinals ( routines in DLL files )
Example, if I reference, in my application, a dll procedure from a dll that was included
with Windows 98 and that
dll has been upgraded / replaced by a newer dll in newer windows versions, the entries in
the registry will automatically point my program to the newest version of the DLL on the
machine in which the application is installed.

So, if the "base" entry has been removed from the registry, guess what, my backwards
compatible app fails to run.

So as was stated earlier in the thread, use "ANY" registry cleaner at your own risk, and
when the app you try to install
That's "supposed" to be compatible with your new windows version fails to run, don't blame
the author, restore your registry.

And yep I'm an MVP for a different technology and YEP I will include it in my sig.


--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

"can't get any benefit from Registry Cleaners"
I never said that .
Go back and read my posts again probably for the first time.
Typical how you need to twist what was said to fit your agenda.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 12:20:29 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
> <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:
>
>>"as if that implies some superior knowledge"
>>As always you are free to ASSUME what you want.
>>But ASSUMPTIONS often tend to be wrong.
>
> Like yours that you can't get any benefit from Registry Cleaners?
>

 

[Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

"Arun" <Arun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:50E926F2-55E9-4643-AAA7-BE185121B65C@microsoft.com...
> Can any One Suggest Best Registry Cleaner And residual file Cleaner for
> vista
> Ultimate.............

There isn't one.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

 

[John Barnes]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

I agree with most that it is not necessary and requires caution. That said
Alias recommendation works fine and ALWAYS let it backup any entries you are
going to delete. Unless you do a huge amount of installing and uninstalling
of programs I would forget about it.


"Arun" <Arun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:50E926F2-55E9-4643-AAA7-BE185121B65C@microsoft.com...
> Can any One Suggest Best Registry Cleaner And residual file Cleaner for
> vista
> Ultimate.............

 

[Adam Albright]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 15:09:55 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
<jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:

>"can't get any benefit from Registry Cleaners"
>I never said that .
>Go back and read my posts again probably for the first time.
>Typical how you need to twist what was said to fit your agenda.


Damn, Jupiter you're so good at back pedaling! That's your true
talent.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

Not at all.
It is you that is so bad at misquoting others to suit your agenda.
It is not "back pedaling" to tell you I did not say what you claimed I
said when I never said it.
It is your imagination.
Of course if you can show where I said it.
But then if you could you already would have, but you CAN'T.
Instead you have shown yourself as one who need to misquote others.
Your continued attacks. void of facts.

Good bye Adam.
You continue to show you have NOTHING of value.
Reply back only if you feel the need to feed your ego.
No other purpose will be served.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
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> Damn, Jupiter you're so good at back pedaling! That's your true
> talent.
>

 

[Mark]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

Just put him on your blocked list. (By name, address, & IP domain.)
Never respond to him!


"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
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> Not at all.
> It is you that is so bad at misquoting others to suit your agenda.
> It is not "back pedaling" to tell you I did not say what you claimed I
> said when I never said it.
> It is your imagination.
> Of course if you can show where I said it.
> But then if you could you already would have, but you CAN'T.
> Instead you have shown yourself as one who need to misquote others.
> Your continued attacks. void of facts.
>
> Good bye Adam.
> You continue to show you have NOTHING of value.
> Reply back only if you feel the need to feed your ego.
> No other purpose will be served.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
> news:lgd093h0upro16fd5ndarpgpboq40hu2ur@4ax.com...
>> Damn, Jupiter you're so good at back pedaling! That's your true
>> talent.
>>
>

 

[Daave]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

notachance wrote:
> I have just converted from registry cleaner naysayer to a true
> believer. And I will NOT name the tool I used.

Why not?

 

[Alun Harford]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

Adam Albright wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:59:20 +0100, Alun Harford
> <devnull@alunharford.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Adam Albright wrote:
>>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:26:30 +0100, Alun Harford
>>> <devnull@alunharford.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Arun wrote:
>>>>> Can any One Suggest Best Registry Cleaner And residual file Cleaner for vista
>>>>> Ultimate.............
>>>> No. They cause more problems than they solve.
>>>> If you can't do it manually, you're likely to mess up your system if you
>>>> use a tool.
>>>> If you can do it manually, the tool isn't very useful.
>>> Telling people to manually edit their Registry isn't very good advice
>>> for the average user for obvious reasons; doing so can totally trash
>>> your Registry making your computer unbootable. Far safer to use a tool
>>> designed for that purpose.
>> The tool is even more dangerous than doing it manually.
>> Most users decide against the idea when confronted with the registry
>> editor, because they realise that they don't know what they're doing.
>> With a tool, most users go "Nice pretty wizard. Next, next, next, next,
>> finish. Oh dear, my system doesn't boot any more." Only then do they
>> realise that they didn't know what they were doing.
>>
>> Alun Harford
>
>
> You're entitled to your opinion even if it isn't factual. The whole
> point behind Registry Cleaners is to avoid deleting something by
> mistake. Of course any tool used improperly isn't very smart. What you
> avoid saying is Registry Tools while most have some automatic feature
> also show you a list of what it is about to remove BEFORE it actually
> does, allowing the user to decide what to delete and what not to. Of
> course if anybody just haphazardly removes things without knowing why
> that is dumb. However suggesting people manually scan tens of
> thousands of lines in the Registry looking for "bad" things on their
> own is in my opinion equally risky and very time consuming. Stop being
> anal.

plonk

 

[Adam Albright]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 14:06:45 +0100, Alun Harford
<devnull@alunharford.co.uk> wrote:


>>> The tool is even more dangerous than doing it manually.
>>> Most users decide against the idea when confronted with the registry
>>> editor, because they realise that they don't know what they're doing.
>>> With a tool, most users go "Nice pretty wizard. Next, next, next, next,
>>> finish. Oh dear, my system doesn't boot any more." Only then do they
>>> realise that they didn't know what they were doing.
>>>
>>> Alun Harford
>>
>>
>> You're entitled to your opinion even if it isn't factual. The whole
>> point behind Registry Cleaners is to avoid deleting something by
>> mistake. Of course any tool used improperly isn't very smart. What you
>> avoid saying is Registry Tools while most have some automatic feature
>> also show you a list of what it is about to remove BEFORE it actually
>> does, allowing the user to decide what to delete and what not to. Of
>> course if anybody just haphazardly removes things without knowing why
>> that is dumb. However suggesting people manually scan tens of
>> thousands of lines in the Registry looking for "bad" things on their
>> own is in my opinion equally risky and very time consuming. Stop being
>> anal.
>
>plonk

When presented with facts, just plonk. How typical of fanboys.

 

[notachance]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

Daave wrote:
> notachance wrote:
>> I have just converted from registry cleaner naysayer to a true
>> believer. And I will NOT name the tool I used.
>
> Why not?
>
>
>

For those with a problem like mine on a system similar to mine,
it would be wise. But I may have hit on a great combination of
utility plus system configuration - it worked for me but might
be a problem for you. And, I will promote/support products or
procedures only after seeing a reasonable number of successes.

 

[Gene85]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

Microsoft has a FREE beta registry cleaner. It is part of One care! You can
download it on their main page.

"John Barnes" wrote:

> I agree with most that it is not necessary and requires caution. That said
> Alias recommendation works fine and ALWAYS let it backup any entries you are
> going to delete. Unless you do a huge amount of installing and uninstalling
> of programs I would forget about it.
>
>
> "Arun" <Arun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:50E926F2-55E9-4643-AAA7-BE185121B65C@microsoft.com...
> > Can any One Suggest Best Registry Cleaner And residual file Cleaner for
> > vista
> > Ultimate.............
>
>

 

[Daave]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

Adam Albright wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 14:06:45 +0100, Alun Harford
> <devnull@alunharford.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>>> The tool is even more dangerous than doing it manually.
>>>> Most users decide against the idea when confronted with the
>>>> registry editor, because they realise that they don't know what
>>>> they're doing. With a tool, most users go "Nice pretty wizard.
>>>> Next, next, next, next, finish. Oh dear, my system doesn't boot
>>>> any more." Only then do they realise that they didn't know what
>>>> they were doing.
>>>>
>>>> Alun Harford
>>>
>>>
>>> You're entitled to your opinion even if it isn't factual. The whole
>>> point behind Registry Cleaners is to avoid deleting something by
>>> mistake. Of course any tool used improperly isn't very smart. What
>>> you avoid saying is Registry Tools while most have some automatic
>>> feature also show you a list of what it is about to remove BEFORE
>>> it actually does, allowing the user to decide what to delete and
>>> what not to. Of course if anybody just haphazardly removes things
>>> without knowing why that is dumb. However suggesting people
>>> manually scan tens of
>>> thousands of lines in the Registry looking for "bad" things on their
>>> own is in my opinion equally risky and very time consuming. Stop
>>> being anal.
>>
>> plonk
>
> When presented with facts, just plonk. How typical of fanboys.

I'm anything but a "fanboy," but I would like to see you present these
facts.