Terminal Services/Server & RD for Admin

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I ‘m sorry but I’m a Network neophyte. I just bought and installed SBS 2003.
I wanted to be able to do two things:
1. Let my clients access their data but no one else’s
2. Be able to access the server remotely from my home PC.
So, I was doing some research and found this reply from a Microsoft rep.

“OK, long story, but here goes:

In Windows 2000 Terminal Services, there are 2 different TS modes:
1) Terminal Services in Remote Administration mode
This mode gives you a maximum of 2 simultaneous connections to the
server, without additional licensing requirements. Designed for
Administrators, to access the server remotely. By default, only
Administrators can access a server in Remote Administration mode.

2) Terminal Services in Application Server mode
This is the "real" thing: allows for multi-user access, limited
only by the number of Terminal Services Client Access Licenses (TS
CALs) and your hardware.

In Windows 2003, the terminology has changed: What was called "TS
in Application Server mode" on W2K is now simply called "Terminal
Services".
What was called "TS in Remote Administration mode" is now called
"Remote Desktop for Administration". It doesn't need to be
installed, just enabled.

This name change has caused quite some problems: administrators
have installed Terminal Services on 2003, while they only needed
Remote Desktop for Administration. And then after the 120 days
grace period, it stopped functioning, because there are no TS
licenses.

On an SBS 2003 server, you can't make this mistake :-) because it
is impossible to install Terminal Services (implied: in what used
to be called Application Server mode). So the only thing that you
have access to is Remote Desktop for Administration, which is also
what you want.

And no, there is no limiation on what applications you can run in
your remote session to the server.”

My questions are:
1. Microsoft Rep says: “you can’t install Terminal Services” on 2003. Yet,
under “Administration Tools” it lists “Terminal Services Configuration” &
“Terminal Services Manager”. What is this? Is this TS in Application Server
mode? Should I have purchased Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition instead?
2. How do you enable “Remote Desktop for Administration” and will this allow
me to access the server from my home PC?

--
Thank you
Respectfully
MG
 
Re: Terminal Services/Server & RD for Admin

1) These are admin tools and part of the admin tool set. That has nothing
to do with the fact that you cannot install terminal services on SBS 2003.
this is explained on the SBS microsoft website.

2) enabling remote admin is done in the control panel, system, remote.
Technically yes it does but you still need to somehow get access from your
home to the internal networks.

Jeff Pitsch
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services


"MG" <MG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:07A61D4A-6782-441E-BF3F-808A203C8DA9@microsoft.com...
>I 'm sorry but I'm a Network neophyte. I just bought and installed SBS
>2003.
> I wanted to be able to do two things:
> 1. Let my clients access their data but no one else's
> 2. Be able to access the server remotely from my home PC.
> So, I was doing some research and found this reply from a Microsoft rep.
>
> "OK, long story, but here goes:
>
> In Windows 2000 Terminal Services, there are 2 different TS modes:
> 1) Terminal Services in Remote Administration mode
> This mode gives you a maximum of 2 simultaneous connections to the
> server, without additional licensing requirements. Designed for
> Administrators, to access the server remotely. By default, only
> Administrators can access a server in Remote Administration mode.
>
> 2) Terminal Services in Application Server mode
> This is the "real" thing: allows for multi-user access, limited
> only by the number of Terminal Services Client Access Licenses (TS
> CALs) and your hardware.
>
> In Windows 2003, the terminology has changed: What was called "TS
> in Application Server mode" on W2K is now simply called "Terminal
> Services".
> What was called "TS in Remote Administration mode" is now called
> "Remote Desktop for Administration". It doesn't need to be
> installed, just enabled.
>
> This name change has caused quite some problems: administrators
> have installed Terminal Services on 2003, while they only needed
> Remote Desktop for Administration. And then after the 120 days
> grace period, it stopped functioning, because there are no TS
> licenses.
>
> On an SBS 2003 server, you can't make this mistake :-) because it
> is impossible to install Terminal Services (implied: in what used
> to be called Application Server mode). So the only thing that you
> have access to is Remote Desktop for Administration, which is also
> what you want.
>
> And no, there is no limiation on what applications you can run in
> your remote session to the server."
>
> My questions are:
> 1. Microsoft Rep says: "you can't install Terminal Services" on 2003.
> Yet,
> under "Administration Tools" it lists "Terminal Services Configuration" &
> "Terminal Services Manager". What is this? Is this TS in Application
> Server
> mode? Should I have purchased Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition
> instead?
> 2. How do you enable "Remote Desktop for Administration" and will this
> allow
> me to access the server from my home PC?
>
> --
> Thank you
> Respectfully
> MG
 
Re: Terminal Services/Server & RD for Admin

MG, you'd better post in the sbs newsgroup.
Since you have an SBS server, you will really want to use RWW
(Remote Web Workspace), which is a very cool feature to connect to
your server and all clients in the sbs domain.

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

"Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote on 09 jul 2008
in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> 1) These are admin tools and part of the admin tool set. That
> has nothing to do with the fact that you cannot install terminal
> services on SBS 2003. this is explained on the SBS microsoft
> website.
>
> 2) enabling remote admin is done in the control panel, system,
> remote. Technically yes it does but you still need to somehow
> get access from your home to the internal networks.
>
> Jeff Pitsch
> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
>
>
> "MG" <MG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:07A61D4A-6782-441E-BF3F-808A203C8DA9@microsoft.com...
>>I 'm sorry but I'm a Network neophyte. I just bought and
>>installed SBS 2003.
>> I wanted to be able to do two things:
>> 1. Let my clients access their data but no one else's
>> 2. Be able to access the server remotely from my home PC.
>> So, I was doing some research and found this reply from a
>> Microsoft rep.
>>
>> "OK, long story, but here goes:
>>
>> In Windows 2000 Terminal Services, there are 2 different TS
>> modes: 1) Terminal Services in Remote Administration mode
>> This mode gives you a maximum of 2 simultaneous connections to
>> the server, without additional licensing requirements. Designed
>> for Administrators, to access the server remotely. By default,
>> only Administrators can access a server in Remote
>> Administration mode.
>>
>> 2) Terminal Services in Application Server mode
>> This is the "real" thing: allows for multi-user access, limited
>> only by the number of Terminal Services Client Access Licenses
>> (TS CALs) and your hardware.
>>
>> In Windows 2003, the terminology has changed: What was called
>> "TS in Application Server mode" on W2K is now simply called
>> "Terminal Services".
>> What was called "TS in Remote Administration mode" is now
>> called "Remote Desktop for Administration". It doesn't need to
>> be installed, just enabled.
>>
>> This name change has caused quite some problems: administrators
>> have installed Terminal Services on 2003, while they only
>> needed Remote Desktop for Administration. And then after the
>> 120 days grace period, it stopped functioning, because there
>> are no TS licenses.
>>
>> On an SBS 2003 server, you can't make this mistake :-) because
>> it is impossible to install Terminal Services (implied: in what
>> used to be called Application Server mode). So the only thing
>> that you have access to is Remote Desktop for Administration,
>> which is also what you want.
>>
>> And no, there is no limiation on what applications you can run
>> in your remote session to the server."
>>
>> My questions are:
>> 1. Microsoft Rep says: "you can't install Terminal Services" on
>> 2003. Yet,
>> under "Administration Tools" it lists "Terminal Services
>> Configuration" & "Terminal Services Manager". What is this?
>> Is this TS in Application Server
>> mode? Should I have purchased Windows Server 2003 Standard
>> Edition instead?
>> 2. How do you enable "Remote Desktop for Administration" and
>> will this allow
>> me to access the server from my home PC?
>>
>> --
>> Thank you
>> Respectfully
>> MG
 
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