Using SMS 2003 for workstation installations

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Am new to SMS. To do a client push of an application silently onto
workstations using SMS, must I use an MSI package? Can the vendor simply
supply an installation exe that requires no user interaction to install the
app onto a remote workstation thru SMS?

Thanks for any and all ideas,

Mark
 
Re: Using SMS 2003 for workstation installations

In news:F2CE3499-22F8-4FF5-8678-94D69344BE18@microsoft.com,
Markus <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> Am new to SMS. To do a client push of an application silently onto
> workstations using SMS, must I use an MSI package? Can the vendor
> simply supply an installation exe that requires no user interaction
> to install the app onto a remote workstation thru SMS?
>
> Thanks for any and all ideas,
>
> Mark


This post is better suited for the SMS newsgroup. But in summary, if an MSI
doesn't exist, you can create one. There are numerous utilities available to
create one.

I cross-posted this response to the microsoft.public.sms.swdist newsgroup.
Since you are posting from a browser from the Microsoft web community,
cross-posting is not available, so to make it easier for you, I set
follow-ups (all the responses) to populate both newsgroups so you can simply
view the responses here.


--
Regards,
Ace

This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
confers no rights.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT,
MVP Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
Microsoft Certified Trainer

For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please
check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.

Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations
 
Re: Using SMS 2003 for workstation installations

Ace,

Sorry, but MS has so many of these ngs it's hard to find the exact right one
sometimes.

Yes, I was aware of the utilities, but was hoping SMS can handle a standard
exe that does not have any user interaction required.

Thanks,
Mark

"Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:

> In news:F2CE3499-22F8-4FF5-8678-94D69344BE18@microsoft.com,
> Markus <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> > Am new to SMS. To do a client push of an application silently onto
> > workstations using SMS, must I use an MSI package? Can the vendor
> > simply supply an installation exe that requires no user interaction
> > to install the app onto a remote workstation thru SMS?
> >
> > Thanks for any and all ideas,
> >
> > Mark

>
> This post is better suited for the SMS newsgroup. But in summary, if an MSI
> doesn't exist, you can create one. There are numerous utilities available to
> create one.
>
> I cross-posted this response to the microsoft.public.sms.swdist newsgroup.
> Since you are posting from a browser from the Microsoft web community,
> cross-posting is not available, so to make it easier for you, I set
> follow-ups (all the responses) to populate both newsgroups so you can simply
> view the responses here.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Ace
>
> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> confers no rights.
>
> Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT,
> MVP Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
> Microsoft Certified Trainer
>
> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please
> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
> Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations
>
>
>
 
Re: Using SMS 2003 for workstation installations

Yes, SMS/ConfigMgr can handle a standard .exe, like setup.exe /q
It can also do .bat, .vbs, and of course .msi Basically, if you can run it
manually, you can (usually) get ConfigMgr to run it, too. Actually, I've
never encountered anything I couldn't do; but sometimes I had to be creative!
--
Standardize. Simplify. Automate.


"Markus" wrote:

> Ace,
>
> Sorry, but MS has so many of these ngs it's hard to find the exact right one
> sometimes.
>
> Yes, I was aware of the utilities, but was hoping SMS can handle a standard
> exe that does not have any user interaction required.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> "Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > In news:F2CE3499-22F8-4FF5-8678-94D69344BE18@microsoft.com,
> > Markus <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> > > Am new to SMS. To do a client push of an application silently onto
> > > workstations using SMS, must I use an MSI package? Can the vendor
> > > simply supply an installation exe that requires no user interaction
> > > to install the app onto a remote workstation thru SMS?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any and all ideas,
> > >
> > > Mark

> >
> > This post is better suited for the SMS newsgroup. But in summary, if an MSI
> > doesn't exist, you can create one. There are numerous utilities available to
> > create one.
> >
> > I cross-posted this response to the microsoft.public.sms.swdist newsgroup.
> > Since you are posting from a browser from the Microsoft web community,
> > cross-posting is not available, so to make it easier for you, I set
> > follow-ups (all the responses) to populate both newsgroups so you can simply
> > view the responses here.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Ace
> >
> > This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> > confers no rights.
> >
> > Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT,
> > MVP Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
> > Microsoft Certified Trainer
> >
> > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please
> > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
> >
> > Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations
> >
> >
> >
 
Re: Using SMS 2003 for workstation installations

Hi Sherry,

Good to hear.

Am concerned about how SMS would handle the install. I have no need to
specify options for the install, which are handled programmatically in the
install exe. But the install exe must be run directly from the server, which
then loads the app onto the workstation.

I assume SMS must have some way to specify the working dir for running the
install exe and that this will serve the same purpose. That is, the install
exe running thru SMS will believe it is being run from the server where it is
stored, and be able to obtain info from the server directory in which the
install exe is stored.

Do I understand that correctly?

Thanks again for the benefit of your experience,
Mark


"Sherry Kissinger [MVP-SMS]" wrote:

> Yes, SMS/ConfigMgr can handle a standard .exe, like setup.exe /q
> It can also do .bat, .vbs, and of course .msi Basically, if you can run it
> manually, you can (usually) get ConfigMgr to run it, too. Actually, I've
> never encountered anything I couldn't do; but sometimes I had to be creative!
> --
> Standardize. Simplify. Automate.
>
>
> "Markus" wrote:
>
> > Ace,
> >
> > Sorry, but MS has so many of these ngs it's hard to find the exact right one
> > sometimes.
> >
> > Yes, I was aware of the utilities, but was hoping SMS can handle a standard
> > exe that does not have any user interaction required.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mark
> >
> > "Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> > > In news:F2CE3499-22F8-4FF5-8678-94D69344BE18@microsoft.com,
> > > Markus <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> > > > Am new to SMS. To do a client push of an application silently onto
> > > > workstations using SMS, must I use an MSI package? Can the vendor
> > > > simply supply an installation exe that requires no user interaction
> > > > to install the app onto a remote workstation thru SMS?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any and all ideas,
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > >
> > > This post is better suited for the SMS newsgroup. But in summary, if an MSI
> > > doesn't exist, you can create one. There are numerous utilities available to
> > > create one.
> > >
> > > I cross-posted this response to the microsoft.public.sms.swdist newsgroup.
> > > Since you are posting from a browser from the Microsoft web community,
> > > cross-posting is not available, so to make it easier for you, I set
> > > follow-ups (all the responses) to populate both newsgroups so you can simply
> > > view the responses here.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > > Ace
> > >
> > > This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> > > confers no rights.
> > >
> > > Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT,
> > > MVP Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
> > > Microsoft Certified Trainer
> > >
> > > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please
> > > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
> > >
> > > Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations
> > >
> > >
> > >
 
Re: Using SMS 2003 for workstation installations

Sorry for the delay in replying.

So if I understand this correctly, the .exe absolutely *has* to be launched
from the server hosting the application? Is this a "Click-Once" or something
like that app?

We've got a couple of those we have to help deploy. In that case, there are
no "source" files, and all you are doing is asking the client to launch an
executable at a certain time from a network resource. It bugs my innate
desire to have clients only launch applications (like setup executables)
either from a locally cached location or from a local distribution
point--launching something across the network from the remote /slow link
connected offices takes *forever*--but with a clickonce app install we are
limited by the technology.

To answer your question; sure, SMS can do that. But I'd take a good look at
what exactly it is, and see if it *has* to install directly from the server.
There's a couple of applications which the installation instructions from the
vendor say the app has to launch from their server, from a shared directory
across the WAN, but it's bogus information. It can install from any source
directory successfully. So test, test, test.
--
Standardize. Simplify. Automate.


"Markus" wrote:

> Hi Sherry,
>
> Good to hear.
>
> Am concerned about how SMS would handle the install. I have no need to
> specify options for the install, which are handled programmatically in the
> install exe. But the install exe must be run directly from the server, which
> then loads the app onto the workstation.
>
> I assume SMS must have some way to specify the working dir for running the
> install exe and that this will serve the same purpose. That is, the install
> exe running thru SMS will believe it is being run from the server where it is
> stored, and be able to obtain info from the server directory in which the
> install exe is stored.
>
> Do I understand that correctly?
>
> Thanks again for the benefit of your experience,
> Mark
>
>
> "Sherry Kissinger [MVP-SMS]" wrote:
>
> > Yes, SMS/ConfigMgr can handle a standard .exe, like setup.exe /q
> > It can also do .bat, .vbs, and of course .msi Basically, if you can run it
> > manually, you can (usually) get ConfigMgr to run it, too. Actually, I've
> > never encountered anything I couldn't do; but sometimes I had to be creative!
> > --
> > Standardize. Simplify. Automate.
> >
> >
> > "Markus" wrote:
> >
> > > Ace,
> > >
> > > Sorry, but MS has so many of these ngs it's hard to find the exact right one
> > > sometimes.
> > >
> > > Yes, I was aware of the utilities, but was hoping SMS can handle a standard
> > > exe that does not have any user interaction required.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > "Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:
> > >
> > > > In news:F2CE3499-22F8-4FF5-8678-94D69344BE18@microsoft.com,
> > > > Markus <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> > > > > Am new to SMS. To do a client push of an application silently onto
> > > > > workstations using SMS, must I use an MSI package? Can the vendor
> > > > > simply supply an installation exe that requires no user interaction
> > > > > to install the app onto a remote workstation thru SMS?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for any and all ideas,
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > > This post is better suited for the SMS newsgroup. But in summary, if an MSI
> > > > doesn't exist, you can create one. There are numerous utilities available to
> > > > create one.
> > > >
> > > > I cross-posted this response to the microsoft.public.sms.swdist newsgroup.
> > > > Since you are posting from a browser from the Microsoft web community,
> > > > cross-posting is not available, so to make it easier for you, I set
> > > > follow-ups (all the responses) to populate both newsgroups so you can simply
> > > > view the responses here.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Ace
> > > >
> > > > This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> > > > confers no rights.
> > > >
> > > > Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT,
> > > > MVP Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
> > > > Microsoft Certified Trainer
> > > >
> > > > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please
> > > > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
> > > >
> > > > Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
 
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