TS 2008 User & Device CAL's

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Is it possible to mix the userage of User CAL's and Device CAL's on a single
2008 Terminal Server, and if so, how do you set the TS Licensing mode on the
Server?

Based on the information here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/licensing-terminal.aspx

Particularly "You may choose to use a combination of TS Device CALs and TS
User CALs simultaneously with the server software.", I beleived it was
possible, but now that I'm actually looking to install the licenses, I'm
scratching my head somewhat.

Please Help.
 
Re: TS 2008 User & Device CAL's

Hi Peter,

for Windows Server 2003 Microsoft said that you have to put your server in
"per user" mode if you mix device and user cals.
I haven't found a similar 'official' explantation for Windows Server 2008
but it is technically the same - you can not mix cals in device mode so you
have to use user-mode.

Sorry for my English

Oliver


"Peter Lowrey" <Peter Lowrey@discussions.microsoft.com> schrieb im
Newsbeitrag news:7DA29A0E-454D-40A1-AF94-CEFF7AD9362B@microsoft.com...
> Is it possible to mix the userage of User CAL's and Device CAL's on a
> single
> 2008 Terminal Server, and if so, how do you set the TS Licensing mode on
> the
> Server?
>
> Based on the information here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/licensing-terminal.aspx
>
> Particularly "You may choose to use a combination of TS Device CALs and TS
> User CALs simultaneously with the server software.", I beleived it was
> possible, but now that I'm actually looking to install the licenses, I'm
> scratching my head somewhat.
>
> Please Help.
 
Re: TS 2008 User & Device CAL's

As an addition: it is legally possible, but it will be difficult to
know how many licenses you need of each type to comply with the
EULA.
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

=?UTF-8?Q?Oliver_Schr=C3=B6der?=
<oliver.schroeder@_NOSPAM_mcs-ag.com> wrote on 10 jul 2008 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Hi Peter,
>
> for Windows Server 2003 Microsoft said that you have to put
> your server in "per user" mode if you mix device and user cals.
> I haven't found a similar 'official' explantation for Windows
> Server 2008 but it is technically the same - you can not mix
> cals in device mode so you have to use user-mode.
>
> Sorry for my English
>
> Oliver
>
>
> "Peter Lowrey" <Peter Lowrey@discussions.microsoft.com> schrieb
> im Newsbeitrag
> news:7DA29A0E-454D-40A1-AF94-CEFF7AD9362B@microsoft.com...
>> Is it possible to mix the userage of User CAL's and Device
>> CAL's on a single
>> 2008 Terminal Server, and if so, how do you set the TS
>> Licensing mode on the
>> Server?
>>
>> Based on the information here:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/licensing-termi
>> nal.aspx
>>
>> Particularly "You may choose to use a combination of TS Device
>> CALs and TS User CALs simultaneously with the server
>> software.", I beleived it was possible, but now that I'm
>> actually looking to install the licenses, I'm scratching my
>> head somewhat.
>>
>> Please Help.
 
Re: TS 2008 User & Device CAL's

Thanks Oliver, I'll give that a go and see what happens.

"Oliver Schröder" wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
> for Windows Server 2003 Microsoft said that you have to put your server in
> "per user" mode if you mix device and user cals.
> I haven't found a similar 'official' explantation for Windows Server 2008
> but it is technically the same - you can not mix cals in device mode so you
> have to use user-mode.
>
> Sorry for my English
>
> Oliver
>
>
> "Peter Lowrey" <Peter Lowrey@discussions.microsoft.com> schrieb im
> Newsbeitrag news:7DA29A0E-454D-40A1-AF94-CEFF7AD9362B@microsoft.com...
> > Is it possible to mix the userage of User CAL's and Device CAL's on a
> > single
> > 2008 Terminal Server, and if so, how do you set the TS Licensing mode on
> > the
> > Server?
> >
> > Based on the information here:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/licensing-terminal.aspx
> >
> > Particularly "You may choose to use a combination of TS Device CALs and TS
> > User CALs simultaneously with the server software.", I beleived it was
> > possible, but now that I'm actually looking to install the licenses, I'm
> > scratching my head somewhat.
> >
> > Please Help.

>
>
 
Re: TS 2008 User & Device CAL's

Hi Vera,
Could you elaborate on this for me please? We are only running a small
server with 10-15 user CALs and 1 device CAL. Is the problem you mention more
applicable to larger installations dealing with larger numbers of mixed CAL's?

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> As an addition: it is legally possible, but it will be difficult to
> know how many licenses you need of each type to comply with the
> EULA.
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> =?UTF-8?Q?Oliver_Schr=C3=B6der?=
> <oliver.schroeder@_NOSPAM_mcs-ag.com> wrote on 10 jul 2008 in
> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > for Windows Server 2003 Microsoft said that you have to put
> > your server in "per user" mode if you mix device and user cals.
> > I haven't found a similar 'official' explantation for Windows
> > Server 2008 but it is technically the same - you can not mix
> > cals in device mode so you have to use user-mode.
> >
> > Sorry for my English
> >
> > Oliver
> >
> >
> > "Peter Lowrey" <Peter Lowrey@discussions.microsoft.com> schrieb
> > im Newsbeitrag
> > news:7DA29A0E-454D-40A1-AF94-CEFF7AD9362B@microsoft.com...
> >> Is it possible to mix the userage of User CAL's and Device
> >> CAL's on a single
> >> 2008 Terminal Server, and if so, how do you set the TS
> >> Licensing mode on the
> >> Server?
> >>
> >> Based on the information here:
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/licensing-termi
> >> nal.aspx
> >>
> >> Particularly "You may choose to use a combination of TS Device
> >> CALs and TS User CALs simultaneously with the server
> >> software.", I beleived it was possible, but now that I'm
> >> actually looking to install the licenses, I'm scratching my
> >> head somewhat.
> >>
> >> Please Help.

>
 
Re: TS 2008 User & Device CAL's

Well, yes, it becomes more complicated with more users, clients and
licenses.
Since you have only a single device cal, I assume that you have one
dedicated client which is available to everyone, and all regular
users have their own user cal. That's perfectly manageable.
But mostly when this question is asked, people have bought first 50
device and then 50 user licenses. That makes a mess.
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

=?Utf-8?B?UGV0ZXIgTG93cmV5?=
<PeterLowrey@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 11 jul 2008 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Hi Vera,
> Could you elaborate on this for me please? We are only running a
> small server with 10-15 user CALs and 1 device CAL. Is the
> problem you mention more applicable to larger installations
> dealing with larger numbers of mixed CAL's?
>
> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> As an addition: it is legally possible, but it will be
>> difficult to know how many licenses you need of each type to
>> comply with the EULA.
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Vera Noest
>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>>
>> =?UTF-8?Q?Oliver_Schr=C3=B6der?=
>> <oliver.schroeder@_NOSPAM_mcs-ag.com> wrote on 10 jul 2008 in
>> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>>
>> > Hi Peter,
>> >
>> > for Windows Server 2003 Microsoft said that you have to put
>> > your server in "per user" mode if you mix device and user
>> > cals. I haven't found a similar 'official' explantation for
>> > Windows Server 2008 but it is technically the same - you can
>> > not mix cals in device mode so you have to use user-mode.
>> >
>> > Sorry for my English
>> >
>> > Oliver
>> >
>> >
>> > "Peter Lowrey" <Peter Lowrey@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> > news:7DA29A0E-454D-40A1-AF94-CEFF7AD9362B@microsoft.com...
>> >> Is it possible to mix the userage of User CAL's and Device
>> >> CAL's on a single
>> >> 2008 Terminal Server, and if so, how do you set the TS
>> >> Licensing mode on the
>> >> Server?
>> >>
>> >> Based on the information here:
>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/licensing-te
>> >> rmi nal.aspx
>> >>
>> >> Particularly "You may choose to use a combination of TS
>> >> Device CALs and TS User CALs simultaneously with the server
>> >> software.", I beleived it was possible, but now that I'm
>> >> actually looking to install the licenses, I'm scratching my
>> >> head somewhat.
>> >>
>> >> Please Help.
 
Re: TS 2008 User & Device CAL's

Yes, That makes sense.
Thanks for the Clarification.

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> Well, yes, it becomes more complicated with more users, clients and
> licenses.
> Since you have only a single device cal, I assume that you have one
> dedicated client which is available to everyone, and all regular
> users have their own user cal. That's perfectly manageable.
> But mostly when this question is asked, people have bought first 50
> device and then 50 user licenses. That makes a mess.
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
>
> =?Utf-8?B?UGV0ZXIgTG93cmV5?=
> <PeterLowrey@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 11 jul 2008 in
> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
>
> > Hi Vera,
> > Could you elaborate on this for me please? We are only running a
> > small server with 10-15 user CALs and 1 device CAL. Is the
> > problem you mention more applicable to larger installations
> > dealing with larger numbers of mixed CAL's?
> >
> > "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> As an addition: it is legally possible, but it will be
> >> difficult to know how many licenses you need of each type to
> >> comply with the EULA.
> >> _________________________________________________________
> >> Vera Noest
> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___
> >>
> >> =?UTF-8?Q?Oliver_Schr=C3=B6der?=
> >> <oliver.schroeder@_NOSPAM_mcs-ag.com> wrote on 10 jul 2008 in
> >> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:
> >>
> >> > Hi Peter,
> >> >
> >> > for Windows Server 2003 Microsoft said that you have to put
> >> > your server in "per user" mode if you mix device and user
> >> > cals. I haven't found a similar 'official' explantation for
> >> > Windows Server 2008 but it is technically the same - you can
> >> > not mix cals in device mode so you have to use user-mode.
> >> >
> >> > Sorry for my English
> >> >
> >> > Oliver
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Peter Lowrey" <Peter Lowrey@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> >> > news:7DA29A0E-454D-40A1-AF94-CEFF7AD9362B@microsoft.com...
> >> >> Is it possible to mix the userage of User CAL's and Device
> >> >> CAL's on a single
> >> >> 2008 Terminal Server, and if so, how do you set the TS
> >> >> Licensing mode on the
> >> >> Server?
> >> >>
> >> >> Based on the information here:
> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/licensing-te
> >> >> rmi nal.aspx
> >> >>
> >> >> Particularly "You may choose to use a combination of TS
> >> >> Device CALs and TS User CALs simultaneously with the server
> >> >> software.", I beleived it was possible, but now that I'm
> >> >> actually looking to install the licenses, I'm scratching my
> >> >> head somewhat.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please Help.

>
 
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