XP cannot load

[a]

Hi all,

My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the harddisk
light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all. It does not
detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that my PC fails at
POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will cause this problem? VGA
card?

Thanks

 

[Kelly]

Re: XP cannot load

Try another monitor and/or card.

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All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)

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"a" <a@no.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the harddisk
> light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all. It does not
> detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that my PC fails at
> POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will cause this problem?
> VGA card?
>
> Thanks
>
>

 

[Uncle Grumpy]

Re: XP cannot load

"a" <a@no.com> wrote:

>My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the harddisk
>light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all. It does not
>detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that my PC fails at
>POST stage.

Not necessarily. Is the hard drive light SOLID ON like the computer
is locked up or is blinking as if normal processes are being run.

If the latter, then it's either the monitor or the video card.

 

[a]

Re: XP cannot load

"Uncle Grumpy" <unclegrumpy@ameritech.net>
???????llv83lk7ie9p6ugfucduinlfs47gulr1o@4ax.com...
> "a" <a@no.com> wrote:
>
> >My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the harddisk
> >light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all. It does not
> >detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that my PC fails at
> >POST stage.
>
> Not necessarily. Is the hard drive light SOLID ON like the computer
> is locked up or is blinking as if normal processes are being run.
>
> If the latter, then it's either the monitor or the video card.

Thank you very much for your reply.
The harddisk light is solid on like the computer is locked up.
Now, it works fine, after a few more try.
But, the BIOS prompt to reconfigure the CPU speed during the bootup.
Is it indicating anything?

Thanks

 

[Vanguard]

Re: XP cannot load

"a" wrote in message news:uUgyC7LwHHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the
> harddisk light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all.
> It does not detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that
> my PC fails at POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will
> cause this problem? VGA card?


Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor and
memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is
black, just how are you seeing those error messages? Are you hearing
beeps during the POST which you neglected to mention in your post?

 

[Uncle Grumpy]

Re: XP cannot load

"a" <a@mail.com> wrote:

>> Not necessarily. Is the hard drive light SOLID ON like the computer
>> is locked up or is blinking as if normal processes are being run.
>>
>> If the latter, then it's either the monitor or the video card.
>
>Thank you very much for your reply.
>The harddisk light is solid on like the computer is locked up.
>Now, it works fine, after a few more try.
>But, the BIOS prompt to reconfigure the CPU speed during the bootup.
>Is it indicating anything?

Only that for some reason that setting in the BIOS was lost. If it
was ONLY that setting that needed fixing, then your CPU might be going
on the blink, but I don't recall seeing a situation where it went out,
then came back.

How old is the computer?

 

[Uncle Grumpy]

Re: XP cannot load

"Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid> wrote:

>Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor and
>memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is
>black, just how are you seeing those error messages?

The OP made a guess... didn't say anything about seeing error
messages.

You're sounding like Plato.

 

[a]

Re: XP cannot load


"Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid>
???????:eegZQSMwHHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> "a" wrote in message news:uUgyC7LwHHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the
> > harddisk light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all.
> > It does not detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that
> > my PC fails at POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will
> > cause this problem? VGA card?
>
>
> Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor and
> memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is
> black, just how are you seeing those error messages? Are you hearing
> beeps during the POST which you neglected to mention in your post?
>

I have tried a few times. The monitor does not receive any siganl at all. I
have not heard any beep sound. After a few times computer locked up,
finally, the PC can boot. Then, the bios prompted me to reconfigure the CPU
speed. My PC is around 7 year old.

 

[Vanguard]

Re: XP cannot load

"Uncle Grumpy" wrote in message
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> "Vanguard" wrote:
>
>>Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor and
>>memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is
>>black, just how are you seeing those error messages?
>
> The OP made a guess... didn't say anything about seeing error
> messages.
>
> You're sounding like Plato.


So YOU are saying the OP is an idiot because he really hasn't a clue as
to the cause of the problem and is making up even more problems.

Close your eyes and cover with duct tape. Now manage to wander outside
and walk down the street. How many people were on the street? How many
cars were travelling down that busy downtown street? How many store
signs were lighted versus printed? Well, duh, if you can't see then you
can make all the worthless guesses you want.

I don't need to bother stating what you are soundling like.

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Re: XP cannot load

Sounds like your motherboard is going bad. It's trying, even to the point of
resetting CMOS (if that's even "intentional" and not the result of some
major foul-up.) It might be another component (hard drive, video card, etc.)
but I don't think so. I think it's the mobo itself.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"a" <a@mail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid>
> ???????:eegZQSMwHHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> "a" wrote in message news:uUgyC7LwHHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the
>> > harddisk light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all.
>> > It does not detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that
>> > my PC fails at POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will
>> > cause this problem? VGA card?
>>
>>
>> Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor and
>> memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is
>> black, just how are you seeing those error messages? Are you hearing
>> beeps during the POST which you neglected to mention in your post?
>>
>
> I have tried a few times. The monitor does not receive any siganl at all.
> I
> have not heard any beep sound. After a few times computer locked up,
> finally, the PC can boot. Then, the bios prompted me to reconfigure the
> CPU
> speed. My PC is around 7 year old.
>
>
>

 

[Uncle Grumpy]

Re: XP cannot load

"Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid> wrote:

>> The OP made a guess... didn't say anything about seeing error
>> messages.
>>
>> You're sounding like Plato.
>
>So YOU are saying the OP is an idiot because he really hasn't a clue as
>to the cause of the problem and is making up even more problems.

Never said that at all. In fact, his "guess" was better than what you
came up with. I'm saying that YOU are the "idiot".

 

[Uncle Grumpy]

Re: XP cannot load

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

>I think it's the mobo itself.

That's a good probability. Better than thinking that the CPU is
failing.

 

[Vanguard]

Re: XP cannot load

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
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>
> "a" wrote ...
>>
>> "Vanguard" ...
>>>
>>> "a" wrote ...
>>>>
>>>> My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the
>>>> harddisk light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at
>>>> all.
>>>> It does not detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect
>>>> that
>>>> my PC fails at POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will
>>>> cause this problem? VGA card?
>>>
>>> Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor
>>> and
>>> memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is
>>> black, just how are you seeing those error messages? Are you
>>> hearing
>>> beeps during the POST which you neglected to mention in your post?
>>
>> I have tried a few times. The monitor does not receive any siganl at
>> all. I
>> have not heard any beep sound. After a few times computer locked up,
>> finally, the PC can boot. Then, the bios prompted me to reconfigure
>> the CPU
>> speed. My PC is around 7 year old.
>
> Sounds like your motherboard is going bad. It's trying, even to the
> point of resetting CMOS (if that's even "intentional" and not the
> result of some major foul-up.) It might be another component (hard
> drive, video card, etc.) but I don't think so. I think it's the mobo
> itself.

Other possibilities:

- CMOS battery is too old so settings of copy of BIOS in CMOS table
won't hold and look corrupted. But that wouldn't explain why "there is
no monitor signal at all" (which could mean the monitor is always black
or it shows an "out of sync" or "no sync" message).
- PSU is going bad and can't supply the required amperage or voltage
regulation has become too poor or with too much ripple.
- The OP says he hears no beeps. Assuming he has the internal speaker
attached, there should be beeps when the POST completes. That there are
no beeps means the computer isn't even starting the POST. So I'm back
to BIOS corruption or PSU.
- Possibly the CPU. As part of the POST, the BIOS tells the CPU to
issue a Reset signal to all devices to put them into a known starting
state (this is when you do a cold power start). The OP should see the
Caps, Scroll, and Numlock LEDs flash on his keyboard during the POST as
that is the reset signal. If he is using a USB keyboard, connect it via
adapter to the PS/2 port if the LED flash isn't seen.

 

[Vanguard]

Re: XP cannot load

"Uncle Grumpy" wrote in message
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> "Vanguard" wrote:
>
>>> The OP made a guess... didn't say anything about seeing error
>>> messages.
>>>
>>> You're sounding like Plato.
>>
>>So YOU are saying the OP is an idiot because he really hasn't a clue
>>as
>>to the cause of the problem and is making up even more problems.
>
> Never said that at all. In fact, his "guess" was better than what you
> came up with. I'm saying that YOU are the "idiot".


So I infer that you claim the OP is lying. "there is no monitor signal
at all" yet "It does not detect the processor and memory." Since no
beep codes were mentioned (and the OP claims in another post that none
are ever heard) then instead of guessing what would be shown if the
monitor actually worked he is instead lying about the monitor not
working?

I didn't have to guess. Monitor not working. That means he will never
see any error messages so there was no basis for his guesses. Gee,
monitor is blank so it must be the vacuum cleaner over at my neighbor's
house isn't running. Makes as much sense.

 

[nass]

Re: XP cannot load


Adding to Gary Addvice, Did you ever changed the CMOS Battery on the MOBO?.
By the looks of it (according to your Description) that the BIOS not able
to retain the Settings and keep losing it.
Did you added any thing recently to make this issue occur?.
HTH.
nass
-------
www.nasstec.co.uk

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Sounds like your motherboard is going bad. It's trying, even to the point of
> resetting CMOS (if that's even "intentional" and not the result of some
> major foul-up.) It might be another component (hard drive, video card, etc.)
> but I don't think so. I think it's the mobo itself.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "a" <a@mail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid>
> > ???????:eegZQSMwHHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> "a" wrote in message news:uUgyC7LwHHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> > My PC is down. The symptom is, after the PC is powered on, the
> >> > harddisk light is on and still but there is no monitor signal at all.
> >> > It does not detect the processor and memory. Therefore, I expect that
> >> > my PC fails at POST stage. Any suggestion? Which part failure will
> >> > cause this problem? VGA card?
> >>
> >>
> >> Explain how you know there is an error reported for the processor and
> >> memory when "there is no monitor signal at all". If the monitor is
> >> black, just how are you seeing those error messages? Are you hearing
> >> beeps during the POST which you neglected to mention in your post?
> >>
> >
> > I have tried a few times. The monitor does not receive any siganl at all.
> > I
> > have not heard any beep sound. After a few times computer locked up,
> > finally, the PC can boot. Then, the bios prompted me to reconfigure the
> > CPU
> > speed. My PC is around 7 year old.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

 

[Uncle Grumpy]

Re: XP cannot load

"Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid> wrote:

>Other possibilities:
>
>- CMOS battery is too old so settings of copy of BIOS in CMOS table
>won't hold and look corrupted.

I'll stop with that one since it's completely absurd (I'm sure the
rest of your post had equally absurd statements)..

If that battery was going bad and caused a loss of the CMOS settings,
then more than CPU speed would have needed resetting.

You're a hazard here to anyone who accepts your advice.

 

[Uncle Grumpy]

Re: XP cannot load

nass <nass@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Adding to Gary Addvice, Did you ever changed the CMOS Battery on the MOBO?.
>By the looks of it (according to your Description) that the BIOS not able
>to retain the Settings and keep losing it.

You're a loser too. A bad CMOS battery would result in the loss of
ALL CMOS settings.

And the OP wouldn't have eventually been able to boot without setting
ALL of those.

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Re: XP cannot load

I will accept that a bad PSU might be a decent candidate.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Uncle Grumpy" <unclegrumpy@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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> "Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Other possibilities:
>>
>>- CMOS battery is too old so settings of copy of BIOS in CMOS table
>>won't hold and look corrupted.
>
> I'll stop with that one since it's completely absurd (I'm sure the
> rest of your post had equally absurd statements)..
>
> If that battery was going bad and caused a loss of the CMOS settings,
> then more than CPU speed would have needed resetting.
>
> You're a hazard here to anyone who accepts your advice.

 

[nass]

Re: XP cannot load



"Uncle Grumpy" wrote:

> nass <nass@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >Adding to Gary Addvice, Did you ever changed the CMOS Battery on the MOBO?.
> >By the looks of it (according to your Description) that the BIOS not able
> >to retain the Settings and keep losing it.
>
> You're a loser too. A bad CMOS battery would result in the loss of
> ALL CMOS settings.
>
> And the OP wouldn't have eventually been able to boot without setting
> ALL of those.

Something for you to think about it, if the OP Computer that Old then the
CMOS Battery is too old and causing this issue.

Then there is no need to argue just prove your point with technical advice
to the OP.
You done no more answers to your Posts in the future???????<G>
HTH.
nass
-------
www.nasstec.co.uk

 

[Vanguard]

Re: XP cannot load

"Uncle Grumpy" wrote in message
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> "Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Other possibilities:
>>
>>- CMOS battery is too old so settings of copy of BIOS in CMOS table
>>won't hold and look corrupted.
>
> I'll stop with that one since it's completely absurd (I'm sure the
> rest of your post had equally absurd statements)..

You may be Grumpy but you are obviously not old enough to have seen the
"CRC error" message when the contents of the CMOS table don't generate
the hash that was saved in it to validate the settings.