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After running Spybot S&D and trying to delete the trojans, spyware, my system
was telling me that I needed to be an Administrator to perform this function.
I had to do quite a bit of maneuvering just to delete the spyware picked up
by Spybot.

I thought I was the Administrator of my system but when I looked, there were
four listings under my User Control. BUT, When I go to Control Panel, User
Accounts, My name comes up as the Administrator. I tried to change the
password and create a new one but I cannot remember the password that I used
the first day I opened my new computer up ??How can I find my first password,
it's not the password that I sign into Vista with every day so I am all
confused again. I also need to get rid of the users on my system and just
have myself as the Administrator, is that not the way it should be ???

How to I gain control of my own system back as myself as the Administrator
which I "thought" I already was. No one else uses this computer, no one has
ever touched it but me ????? Obviously I have a big problem.
 
Re: Windows Vista User Control

By design.

Elevate Spybot S&D. (Right-click -> Run as administrator).

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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"URmySunshine" <URmySunshine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:79FC6327-459A-438E-B4B5-05D7FD3A41F5@microsoft.com...
> After running Spybot S&D and trying to delete the trojans, spyware, my
> system
> was telling me that I needed to be an Administrator to perform this
> function.
> I had to do quite a bit of maneuvering just to delete the spyware picked
> up
> by Spybot.
>
> I thought I was the Administrator of my system but when I looked, there
> were
> four listings under my User Control. BUT, When I go to Control Panel,
> User
> Accounts, My name comes up as the Administrator. I tried to change the
> password and create a new one but I cannot remember the password that I
> used
> the first day I opened my new computer up ??How can I find my first
> password,
> it's not the password that I sign into Vista with every day so I am all
> confused again. I also need to get rid of the users on my system and just
> have myself as the Administrator, is that not the way it should be ???
>
> How to I gain control of my own system back as myself as the Administrator
> which I "thought" I already was. No one else uses this computer, no one
> has
> ever touched it but me ????? Obviously I have a big problem.
 
Re: Windows Vista User Control

"URmySunshine" <URmySunshine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:79FC6327-459A-438E-B4B5-05D7FD3A41F5@microsoft.com...
> After running Spybot S&D and trying to delete the trojans, spyware, my
> system
> was telling me that I needed to be an Administrator to perform this
> function.
> I had to do quite a bit of maneuvering just to delete the spyware picked
> up
> by Spybot.
>
> I thought I was the Administrator of my system but when I looked, there
> were
> four listings under my User Control. BUT, When I go to Control Panel,
> User
> Accounts, My name comes up as the Administrator. I tried to change the
> password and create a new one but I cannot remember the password that I
> used
> the first day I opened my new computer up ??How can I find my first
> password,
> it's not the password that I sign into Vista with every day so I am all
> confused again. I also need to get rid of the users on my system and just
> have myself as the Administrator, is that not the way it should be ???
>
> How to I gain control of my own system back as myself as the Administrator
> which I "thought" I already was. No one else uses this computer, no one
> has
> ever touched it but me ????? Obviously I have a big problem.


In Vista you are the user who has administrative rights but no user runs
with those rights all the time as you did in XP. When an action requires
administrative rights you are asked to confirm.
 
Re: Windows Vista User Control

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:03:56 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
<c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

>"URmySunshine" <URmySunshine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:79FC6327-459A-438E-B4B5-05D7FD3A41F5@microsoft.com...
>> After running Spybot S&D and trying to delete the trojans, spyware, my
>> system
>> was telling me that I needed to be an Administrator to perform this
>> function.
>> I had to do quite a bit of maneuvering just to delete the spyware picked
>> up
>> by Spybot.
>>
>> I thought I was the Administrator of my system but when I looked, there
>> were
>> four listings under my User Control. BUT, When I go to Control Panel,
>> User
>> Accounts, My name comes up as the Administrator. I tried to change the
>> password and create a new one but I cannot remember the password that I
>> used
>> the first day I opened my new computer up ??How can I find my first
>> password,
>> it's not the password that I sign into Vista with every day so I am all
>> confused again. I also need to get rid of the users on my system and just
>> have myself as the Administrator, is that not the way it should be ???
>>
>> How to I gain control of my own system back as myself as the Administrator
>> which I "thought" I already was. No one else uses this computer, no one
>> has
>> ever touched it but me ????? Obviously I have a big problem.
>
>
>In Vista you are the user who has administrative rights but no user runs
>with those rights all the time as you did in XP. When an action requires
>administrative rights you are asked to confirm.

With all the playing around that you do with different
machines/programs, do you expect us (ME?) to believe that you still
have UAC enabled?
 
Re: Windows Vista User Control

Losing your administrator password is a problem.

When you turn on your computer, I assume that you log on as a user since you
don't have the password for administrator. Correct?


--
oscar :)

....Right click is your best friend...


"Nonny" wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:03:56 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
> <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >"URmySunshine" <URmySunshine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >news:79FC6327-459A-438E-B4B5-05D7FD3A41F5@microsoft.com...
> >> After running Spybot S&D and trying to delete the trojans, spyware, my
> >> system
> >> was telling me that I needed to be an Administrator to perform this
> >> function.
> >> I had to do quite a bit of maneuvering just to delete the spyware picked
> >> up
> >> by Spybot.
> >>
> >> I thought I was the Administrator of my system but when I looked, there
> >> were
> >> four listings under my User Control. BUT, When I go to Control Panel,
> >> User
> >> Accounts, My name comes up as the Administrator. I tried to change the
> >> password and create a new one but I cannot remember the password that I
> >> used
> >> the first day I opened my new computer up ??How can I find my first
> >> password,
> >> it's not the password that I sign into Vista with every day so I am all
> >> confused again. I also need to get rid of the users on my system and just
> >> have myself as the Administrator, is that not the way it should be ???
> >>
> >> How to I gain control of my own system back as myself as the Administrator
> >> which I "thought" I already was. No one else uses this computer, no one
> >> has
> >> ever touched it but me ????? Obviously I have a big problem.
> >
> >
> >In Vista you are the user who has administrative rights but no user runs
> >with those rights all the time as you did in XP. When an action requires
> >administrative rights you are asked to confirm.
>
> With all the playing around that you do with different
> machines/programs, do you expect us (ME?) to believe that you still
> have UAC enabled?
>
 
Re: Windows Vista User Control

"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:rj7s7459oa777besphnsoe6ng2g7u5uehf@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:03:56 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
> <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>"URmySunshine" <URmySunshine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:79FC6327-459A-438E-B4B5-05D7FD3A41F5@microsoft.com...
>>> After running Spybot S&D and trying to delete the trojans, spyware, my
>>> system
>>> was telling me that I needed to be an Administrator to perform this
>>> function.
>>> I had to do quite a bit of maneuvering just to delete the spyware picked
>>> up
>>> by Spybot.
>>>
>>> I thought I was the Administrator of my system but when I looked, there
>>> were
>>> four listings under my User Control. BUT, When I go to Control Panel,
>>> User
>>> Accounts, My name comes up as the Administrator. I tried to change the
>>> password and create a new one but I cannot remember the password that I
>>> used
>>> the first day I opened my new computer up ??How can I find my first
>>> password,
>>> it's not the password that I sign into Vista with every day so I am all
>>> confused again. I also need to get rid of the users on my system and
>>> just
>>> have myself as the Administrator, is that not the way it should be ???
>>>
>>> How to I gain control of my own system back as myself as the
>>> Administrator
>>> which I "thought" I already was. No one else uses this computer, no one
>>> has
>>> ever touched it but me ????? Obviously I have a big problem.
>>
>>
>>In Vista you are the user who has administrative rights but no user runs
>>with those rights all the time as you did in XP. When an action requires
>>administrative rights you are asked to confirm.
>
> With all the playing around that you do with different
> machines/programs, do you expect us (ME?) to believe that you still
> have UAC enabled?


Actually I do. I have never once disabled it, now that I think of it. I
have always been able to find a way to run elevated if needed. There have
been a few instances when I needed to learn something new in doing that, but
otherwise it just hasn't been an issue for me. I'm not saying that there
aren't specific issues with some software titles about UAC, but I don't
happen to use any of them.
 
Re: Windows Vista User Control

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:11:02 -0700, oscar
<oscar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Losing your administrator password is a problem.
>
>When you turn on your computer, I assume that you log on as a user since you
>don't have the password for administrator. Correct?

You're replying to the wrong post.
 
Re: Windows Vista User Control

Sorry, Nonny. Question was for URmySunshine.
--
oscar :)

....Right click is your best friend...


"Nonny" wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:11:02 -0700, oscar
> <oscar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >Losing your administrator password is a problem.
> >
> >When you turn on your computer, I assume that you log on as a user since you
> >don't have the password for administrator. Correct?
>
> You're replying to the wrong post.
>
 
RE: Windows Vista User Control

Regarding passwords. On the Welcome Screen, click on arrow next to password
field. Screen will give you a hint that you should've entered when you first
created password.
--
oscar :)

....Right click is your best friend...


"URmySunshine" wrote:

> After running Spybot S&D and trying to delete the trojans, spyware, my system
> was telling me that I needed to be an Administrator to perform this function.
> I had to do quite a bit of maneuvering just to delete the spyware picked up
> by Spybot.
>
> I thought I was the Administrator of my system but when I looked, there were
> four listings under my User Control. BUT, When I go to Control Panel, User
> Accounts, My name comes up as the Administrator. I tried to change the
> password and create a new one but I cannot remember the password that I used
> the first day I opened my new computer up ??How can I find my first password,
> it's not the password that I sign into Vista with every day so I am all
> confused again. I also need to get rid of the users on my system and just
> have myself as the Administrator, is that not the way it should be ???
>
> How to I gain control of my own system back as myself as the Administrator
> which I "thought" I already was. No one else uses this computer, no one has
> ever touched it but me ????? Obviously I have a big problem.
 
Re: Windows Vista User Control

Hi Nonny,

Look, I don't know you or anything about you but each and every time you
reply to me, you answer with a very "smart mouthed" reply. So if it's all
the same to you, please don't reply to me anymore. I am here asking for help
and it's neither here nor there to me what you believe. I asked the
questions and explain myself the best way I know how in order for others here
to help me. Everyone here has been such great help to me and I've never been
spoken to in the manner in which you do, not ever and I've been coming here
for years. So please, I am asking you to please NOT reply to me anymore. I
would appreciate it.

Sincerely, Joy

"Nonny" wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:03:56 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
> <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >"URmySunshine" <URmySunshine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >news:79FC6327-459A-438E-B4B5-05D7FD3A41F5@microsoft.com...
> >> After running Spybot S&D and trying to delete the trojans, spyware, my
> >> system
> >> was telling me that I needed to be an Administrator to perform this
> >> function.
> >> I had to do quite a bit of maneuvering just to delete the spyware picked
> >> up
> >> by Spybot.
> >>
> >> I thought I was the Administrator of my system but when I looked, there
> >> were
> >> four listings under my User Control. BUT, When I go to Control Panel,
> >> User
> >> Accounts, My name comes up as the Administrator. I tried to change the
> >> password and create a new one but I cannot remember the password that I
> >> used
> >> the first day I opened my new computer up ??How can I find my first
> >> password,
> >> it's not the password that I sign into Vista with every day so I am all
> >> confused again. I also need to get rid of the users on my system and just
> >> have myself as the Administrator, is that not the way it should be ???
> >>
> >> How to I gain control of my own system back as myself as the Administrator
> >> which I "thought" I already was. No one else uses this computer, no one
> >> has
> >> ever touched it but me ????? Obviously I have a big problem.
> >
> >
> >In Vista you are the user who has administrative rights but no user runs
> >with those rights all the time as you did in XP. When an action requires
> >administrative rights you are asked to confirm.
>
> With all the playing around that you do with different
> machines/programs, do you expect us (ME?) to believe that you still
> have UAC enabled?
>
 
RE: Windows Vista User Control

Dear Oscar, what is going on, people are replying to MY post but are talking
to "each other" and not me? I don't understand. I just asked Nonny not to
reply to me anymore because of the way she answered but I think she may have
been talking to someone else? I'm not even sure that anyone is replying to
me except for you? Why is this happening. ?????

Thanks for the help, I just noticed that I have 4 users on my system and
don't know how they got there and don't know what to do and obviously people
are replying to each other on my post and confusing me to death.....

"oscar" wrote:

> Regarding passwords. On the Welcome Screen, click on arrow next to password
> field. Screen will give you a hint that you should've entered when you first
> created password.
> --
> oscar :)
>
> ...Right click is your best friend...
>
>
> "URmySunshine" wrote:
>
> > After running Spybot S&D and trying to delete the trojans, spyware, my system
> > was telling me that I needed to be an Administrator to perform this function.
> > I had to do quite a bit of maneuvering just to delete the spyware picked up
> > by Spybot.
> >
> > I thought I was the Administrator of my system but when I looked, there were
> > four listings under my User Control. BUT, When I go to Control Panel, User
> > Accounts, My name comes up as the Administrator. I tried to change the
> > password and create a new one but I cannot remember the password that I used
> > the first day I opened my new computer up ??How can I find my first password,
> > it's not the password that I sign into Vista with every day so I am all
> > confused again. I also need to get rid of the users on my system and just
> > have myself as the Administrator, is that not the way it should be ???
> >
> > How to I gain control of my own system back as myself as the Administrator
> > which I "thought" I already was. No one else uses this computer, no one has
> > ever touched it but me ????? Obviously I have a big problem.
 
Re: Windows Vista User Control

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:30:15 -0700, URmySunshine
<URmySunshine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Hi Nonny,
>
>Look, I don't know you or anything about you but each and every time you
>reply to me, you answer with a very "smart mouthed" reply. So if it's all
>the same to you, please don't reply to me anymore.

You are replying to a post I aimed at COLIN. Not you.

>I am here asking for help
>and it's neither here nor there to me what you believe. I asked the
>questions and explain myself the best way I know how in order for others here
>to help me. Everyone here has been such great help to me and I've never been
>spoken to in the manner in which you do, not ever and I've been coming here
>for years. So please, I am asking you to please NOT reply to me anymore. I
>would appreciate it.
>
>Sincerely, Joy
>
>"Nonny" wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:03:56 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
>> <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> >"URmySunshine" <URmySunshine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >news:79FC6327-459A-438E-B4B5-05D7FD3A41F5@microsoft.com...
>> >> After running Spybot S&D and trying to delete the trojans, spyware, my
>> >> system
>> >> was telling me that I needed to be an Administrator to perform this
>> >> function.
>> >> I had to do quite a bit of maneuvering just to delete the spyware picked
>> >> up
>> >> by Spybot.
>> >>
>> >> I thought I was the Administrator of my system but when I looked, there
>> >> were
>> >> four listings under my User Control. BUT, When I go to Control Panel,
>> >> User
>> >> Accounts, My name comes up as the Administrator. I tried to change the
>> >> password and create a new one but I cannot remember the password that I
>> >> used
>> >> the first day I opened my new computer up ??How can I find my first
>> >> password,
>> >> it's not the password that I sign into Vista with every day so I am all
>> >> confused again. I also need to get rid of the users on my system and just
>> >> have myself as the Administrator, is that not the way it should be ???
>> >>
>> >> How to I gain control of my own system back as myself as the Administrator
>> >> which I "thought" I already was. No one else uses this computer, no one
>> >> has
>> >> ever touched it but me ????? Obviously I have a big problem.
>> >
>> >
>> >In Vista you are the user who has administrative rights but no user runs
>> >with those rights all the time as you did in XP. When an action requires
>> >administrative rights you are asked to confirm.
>>
>> With all the playing around that you do with different
>> machines/programs, do you expect us (ME?) to believe that you still
>> have UAC enabled?
>>
 
Re: Windows Vista User Control

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:35:01 -0700, URmySunshine
<URmySunshine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Dear Oscar, what is going on, people are replying to MY post but are talking
>to "each other" and not me? I don't understand. I just asked Nonny not to
>reply to me anymore because of the way she answered but I think she may have
>been talking to someone else?

Welcome to Usenet. It's free-wheeling and unmoderated. Read the top
part of every post to see who is being quoted, and you will know who
is being replied to.

BTW... I'm a guy. A 64-year-old guy.

> I'm not even sure that anyone is replying to
>me except for you? Why is this happening. ?????
>
>Thanks for the help, I just noticed that I have 4 users on my system and
>don't know how they got there and don't know what to do and obviously people
>are replying to each other on my post and confusing me to death.....
>
>"oscar" wrote:
>
>> Regarding passwords. On the Welcome Screen, click on arrow next to password
>> field. Screen will give you a hint that you should've entered when you first
>> created password.
>> --
>> oscar :)
>>
>> ...Right click is your best friend...
>>
>>
>> "URmySunshine" wrote:
>>
>> > After running Spybot S&D and trying to delete the trojans, spyware, my system
>> > was telling me that I needed to be an Administrator to perform this function.
>> > I had to do quite a bit of maneuvering just to delete the spyware picked up
>> > by Spybot.
>> >
>> > I thought I was the Administrator of my system but when I looked, there were
>> > four listings under my User Control. BUT, When I go to Control Panel, User
>> > Accounts, My name comes up as the Administrator. I tried to change the
>> > password and create a new one but I cannot remember the password that I used
>> > the first day I opened my new computer up ??How can I find my first password,
>> > it's not the password that I sign into Vista with every day so I am all
>> > confused again. I also need to get rid of the users on my system and just
>> > have myself as the Administrator, is that not the way it should be ???
>> >
>> > How to I gain control of my own system back as myself as the Administrator
>> > which I "thought" I already was. No one else uses this computer, no one has
>> > ever touched it but me ????? Obviously I have a big problem.
 
Re: Windows Vista User Control


"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:h83t74lbmsijbilt26jq9573fndrenj6ii@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:35:01 -0700, URmySunshine
> <URmySunshine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
> Welcome to Usenet. It's free-wheeling and unmoderated. Read the top
> part of every post to see who is being quoted, and you will know who
> is being replied to.
>
> BTW... I'm a guy. A 64-year-old guy.
>


Phew, I'm not the oldest amongst us.
 
RE: Windows Vista User Control

Sunshine,

I'm glad that you're getting my replies.

Sometimes I have to be sure that I understand the problem. Hence my replies
will sometimes be questions in order to clarify the situation.

"...myself as the Administrator, is that not the way it should be ???

How to I gain control of my own system back as myself as the Administrator
which I "thought" I already was. No one else uses this computer, no one has"


As an aside, I understand the frustration users have with UAC. But there is
method in this UAC madness. The purpose of UAC is to help the administrator
protect the integrity of the OS and document files for home or business
computer networks. Most home users are the one and only user of their
personal computer and find UAC a nuisance. Me included. There’s always the
option of turning UAC off but that may create more problems in the future.
And I don’t know if turning UAC off in your situation would solve any
problems you’re having now.

Concerning your problem:

"I tried to change the
password and create a new one but I cannot remember the password that I used
the first day I opened my new computer up ??How can I find my first password,
it's not the password that I sign into Vista with every day so I am all
confused again. I also need to get rid of the users on my system and just
have myself as the Administrator, is that not the way it should be ???"

The reason I'm wondering about the password is if you've lost your password
as administrator that would be a problem. If you lost the password for one of
the users, that's not as big of a problem. So, if you can clarify if it’s a
user or administrator password maybe I can help or steer you in the direction
where someone can.


"I thought I was the Administrator of my system but when I looked, there were
four listings under my User Control. BUT, When I go to Control Panel, User
Accounts,"

In my home set up I have four accounts, too. “Myname admin”( the
administrator account which is me), “myname user,” ( a user account which is
me but does not have full access to programs and folders without “Myname
admins” permission, also me.) “Guest” (guest account off) and “ASP.NET”
(standard user which is password protected.) In my case the only accounts
that I use on a daily basis are “Myname admin” and “myname user”. “Myname
user” is used for goofing around and as the sole user, “Myname admin’ is all
I really need.

I was thinking that if you can boil your accounts down to the account(s)
that you actually use then we can set your account up again to start clearing
up the UAC confusion.

But right now let’s get that password issue settled. (And, no, do not tell
me the password.)


--
oscar :)

....Right click is your best friend...


"URmySunshine" wrote:

> After running Spybot S&D and trying to delete the trojans, spyware, my system
> was telling me that I needed to be an Administrator to perform this function.
> I had to do quite a bit of maneuvering just to delete the spyware picked up
> by Spybot.
>
> I thought I was the Administrator of my system but when I looked, there were
> four listings under my User Control. BUT, When I go to Control Panel, User
> Accounts, My name comes up as the Administrator. I tried to change the
> password and create a new one but I cannot remember the password that I used
> the first day I opened my new computer up ??How can I find my first password,
> it's not the password that I sign into Vista with every day so I am all
> confused again. I also need to get rid of the users on my system and just
> have myself as the Administrator, is that not the way it should be ???
>
> How to I gain control of my own system back as myself as the Administrator
> which I "thought" I already was. No one else uses this computer, no one has
> ever touched it but me ????? Obviously I have a big problem.
 
Re: Windows Vista User Control

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:26:55 -0400, "Sinner" <sinner@gatesofhell.org>
wrote:

>
>"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:h83t74lbmsijbilt26jq9573fndrenj6ii@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:35:01 -0700, URmySunshine
>> <URmySunshine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Welcome to Usenet. It's free-wheeling and unmoderated. Read the top
>> part of every post to see who is being quoted, and you will know who
>> is being replied to.
>>
>> BTW... I'm a guy. A 64-year-old guy.
>>
>
>Phew, I'm not the oldest amongst us.

At least one of the MVPs is 70 or 71.

These groups are full of geezers. We have nothing better to do than
sit at a keyboard all day and play.
 
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