A problem, a solution, a question

[Carlos]

Vista x64 SP1 installed in partition C:, D: partition for data, backups, etc.
RAID0, running on a jmicron chipset controller, gigabyte mobo #GA-MA790FX-DS5

Problem:
Partition D: randomly starts in read-only mode not allowing any write
operation on it.
A simple reboot fixes it temporarily, until next reboot.

Solution (or patch):
A little of googling took me here
http://forums.microsoft.com/technet...tid=2617353&sb=0&d=1&at=7&ft=11&tf=0&pageid=0
where Greg Knight from MSFT offered a solution in page 2, admitting it is a
Vista problem.
Somehow Vista gets confused when mounting the 2nd partition and sets it
randomly to read-only.
Running this command in an elevated prompt
fsutil volume dismount d:
fixes it instantaneously without the need of a reboot and stays like that
until next reboot.

Question:
Is there a simple way (registry or startup entry) that allows to
automatically run that command with administrator rights on every reboot?

All the usual stuff was tried before getting to this point, i.e.,
- Delete the partition, format and load data back onto it
- Take ownership of every single folder in the partition
- Now matter what, on next reboot there were 50% chances that it was going
to be read-only again
- Install Vista again, use different sizes for the partitions, new RAID
driver, you name it


Carlos

 

[Tony Sperling]

Re: A problem, a solution, a question

The easiest solution probably would be to put a *.BAT file (or something?)
in your:

C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

folder, and have that execute the command? At least as long as you're not
going to use hundreds of commands like that.

You'd probably see the faint shape of a black window flashing when you log
in, but I think there's a 'silence' option switch to disable that. (Not
sure).


Tony. . .

 

[Carlos]

Re: A problem, a solution, a question

Tony,
I wish it were that simple.
If you right-click on the .bat file and go to the "Compatibility" tab, the
square box for checking (and enabling) the batch with Administrator
privileges is greyed out.

Keep thinking, I know something will come out. Maybe after a gooood
Glenfoyle, uh?

Carlos

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> The easiest solution probably would be to put a *.BAT file (or something?)
> in your:
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>
> folder, and have that execute the command? At least as long as you're not
> going to use hundreds of commands like that.
>
> You'd probably see the faint shape of a black window flashing when you log
> in, but I think there's a 'silence' option switch to disable that. (Not
> sure).
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
>
>

 

[Tony Sperling]

Re: A problem, a solution, a question

Ah, I admit that I forgot you mentioned the elevated command, but the greyed
text is strange all the same - did you create the actual *.bat from an
elevated command window? It has got EDIT has it not?


Tony. . .


"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:88DCB01C-AB8D-4177-BFCD-E2C5DEB55541@microsoft.com...
> Tony,
> I wish it were that simple.
> If you right-click on the .bat file and go to the "Compatibility" tab, the
> square box for checking (and enabling) the batch with Administrator
> privileges is greyed out.
>
> Keep thinking, I know something will come out. Maybe after a gooood
> Glenfoyle, uh?
>
> Carlos
>
> "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>
> > The easiest solution probably would be to put a *.BAT file (or
something?)
> > in your:
> >
> > C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
> >
> > folder, and have that execute the command? At least as long as you're
not
> > going to use hundreds of commands like that.
> >
> > You'd probably see the faint shape of a black window flashing when you
log
> > in, but I think there's a 'silence' option switch to disable that. (Not
> > sure).
> >
> >
> > Tony. . .
> >
> >
> >
> >

 

[Carlos]

Re: A problem, a solution, a question

Tony,
I did not create the *.bat from an elevated command prompt window.
I had not thought about that!
There's no EDIT command in Vista x64 cmd prompt window.
I will try with Notepad or the old "copy con" command (remember it?)
My results will have to wait a few hours, I am at work now.
Carlos

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> Ah, I admit that I forgot you mentioned the elevated command, but the greyed
> text is strange all the same - did you create the actual *.bat from an
> elevated command window? It has got EDIT has it not?
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:88DCB01C-AB8D-4177-BFCD-E2C5DEB55541@microsoft.com...
> > Tony,
> > I wish it were that simple.
> > If you right-click on the .bat file and go to the "Compatibility" tab, the
> > square box for checking (and enabling) the batch with Administrator
> > privileges is greyed out.
> >
> > Keep thinking, I know something will come out. Maybe after a gooood
> > Glenfoyle, uh?
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:
> >
> > > The easiest solution probably would be to put a *.BAT file (or
> something?)
> > > in your:
> > >
> > > C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
> > >
> > > folder, and have that execute the command? At least as long as you're
> not
> > > going to use hundreds of commands like that.
> > >
> > > You'd probably see the faint shape of a black window flashing when you
> log
> > > in, but I think there's a 'silence' option switch to disable that. (Not
> > > sure).
> > >
> > >
> > > Tony. . .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

 

[Tony Sperling]

Re: A problem, a solution, a question

I really have no idea if this is the way to do it, but if you use N-Pad you
should probably execute it from inside that command window - copy con is
probably the more natural interface (yes, I remember, but I am not sure I
remember how to drive it?) On the other hand, I am sure you must have
EDLIN - Ha, ha, ha!!!

Being the lazy type, I would probably do DIR > SOME.BAT and replace the
contents with that of your command in notepad later???

The Glenfoyle sadly, has evaporated - I shall have to make do with the far
more expensive Caol Ila (an Islay malt - pronounced as "Cull Eela").


Tony. . .



"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:751BCC20-4076-4191-81BD-CFA50D03A121@microsoft.com...
> Tony,
> I did not create the *.bat from an elevated command prompt window.
> I had not thought about that!
> There's no EDIT command in Vista x64 cmd prompt window.
> I will try with Notepad or the old "copy con" command (remember it?)
> My results will have to wait a few hours, I am at work now.
> Carlos
>
> "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>
> > Ah, I admit that I forgot you mentioned the elevated command, but the
greyed
> > text is strange all the same - did you create the actual *.bat from an
> > elevated command window? It has got EDIT has it not?
> >
> >
> > Tony. . .
> >
> >
> > "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:88DCB01C-AB8D-4177-BFCD-E2C5DEB55541@microsoft.com...
> > > Tony,
> > > I wish it were that simple.
> > > If you right-click on the .bat file and go to the "Compatibility" tab,
the
> > > square box for checking (and enabling) the batch with Administrator
> > > privileges is greyed out.
> > >
> > > Keep thinking, I know something will come out. Maybe after a gooood
> > > Glenfoyle, uh?
> > >
> > > Carlos
> > >
> > > "Tony Sperling" wrote:
> > >
> > > > The easiest solution probably would be to put a *.BAT file (or
> > something?)
> > > > in your:
> > > >
> > > > C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup
> > > >
> > > > folder, and have that execute the command? At least as long as
you're
> > not
> > > > going to use hundreds of commands like that.
> > > >
> > > > You'd probably see the faint shape of a black window flashing when
you
> > log
> > > > in, but I think there's a 'silence' option switch to disable that.
(Not
> > > > sure).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tony. . .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >

 

[Carlos]

Re: A problem, a solution, a question

Tony,
It didn't work.
I started an elevated command prompt, did the "copy con" thing: no dice,
started notepad from there: no dice.
I still cannot enable that freaking *.bat to Run as Admin.
I have prepared myself a "Negroni", 1/3 of gin + 1/3 of Campari + 1/3 of Red
Martini
Life looks different now!
:-S
hic, hic, hic!
Carlos

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> I really have no idea if this is the way to do it, but if you use N-Pad you
> should probably execute it from inside that command window - copy con is
> probably the more natural interface (yes, I remember, but I am not sure I
> remember how to drive it?) On the other hand, I am sure you must have
> EDLIN - Ha, ha, ha!!!
>
> Being the lazy type, I would probably do DIR > SOME.BAT and replace the
> contents with that of your command in notepad later???
>
> The Glenfoyle sadly, has evaporated - I shall have to make do with the far
> more expensive Caol Ila (an Islay malt - pronounced as "Cull Eela").
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
>
> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:751BCC20-4076-4191-81BD-CFA50D03A121@microsoft.com...
> > Tony,
> > I did not create the *.bat from an elevated command prompt window.
> > I had not thought about that!
> > There's no EDIT command in Vista x64 cmd prompt window.
> > I will try with Notepad or the old "copy con" command (remember it?)
> > My results will have to wait a few hours, I am at work now.
> > Carlos
> >
> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:
> >
> > > Ah, I admit that I forgot you mentioned the elevated command, but the
> greyed
> > > text is strange all the same - did you create the actual *.bat from an
> > > elevated command window? It has got EDIT has it not?
> > >
> > >
> > > Tony. . .
> > >
> > >
> > > "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:88DCB01C-AB8D-4177-BFCD-E2C5DEB55541@microsoft.com...
> > > > Tony,
> > > > I wish it were that simple.
> > > > If you right-click on the .bat file and go to the "Compatibility" tab,
> the
> > > > square box for checking (and enabling) the batch with Administrator
> > > > privileges is greyed out.
> > > >
> > > > Keep thinking, I know something will come out. Maybe after a gooood
> > > > Glenfoyle, uh?
> > > >
> > > > Carlos
> > > >
> > > > "Tony Sperling" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The easiest solution probably would be to put a *.BAT file (or
> > > something?)
> > > > > in your:
> > > > >
> > > > > C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Start
> Menu\Programs\Startup
> > > > >
> > > > > folder, and have that execute the command? At least as long as
> you're
> > > not
> > > > > going to use hundreds of commands like that.
> > > > >
> > > > > You'd probably see the faint shape of a black window flashing when
> you
> > > log
> > > > > in, but I think there's a 'silence' option switch to disable that.
> (Not
> > > > > sure).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony. . .
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

 

[Tony Sperling]

Re: A problem, a solution, a question

Hmm - too bad, check this one out though:


http://blogs.msdn.com/tims/archive/...levated-command-prompt-in-six-keystrokes.aspx

and do not jump the comments.

Probably not more than you are aware of, but a few disparate things
collected in one place, I find.

There has to be an answer - in the mean-time, "au santé", my friend!


Tony. . .



"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:76E73BF6-7C39-41D0-8AA7-4BC755DA6D99@microsoft.com...
> Tony,
> It didn't work.
> I started an elevated command prompt, did the "copy con" thing: no dice,
> started notepad from there: no dice.
> I still cannot enable that freaking *.bat to Run as Admin.
> I have prepared myself a "Negroni", 1/3 of gin + 1/3 of Campari + 1/3 of
Red
> Martini
> Life looks different now!
> :-S
> hic, hic, hic!
> Carlos
>
> "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>
> > I really have no idea if this is the way to do it, but if you use N-Pad
you
> > should probably execute it from inside that command window - copy con is
> > probably the more natural interface (yes, I remember, but I am not sure
I
> > remember how to drive it?) On the other hand, I am sure you must have
> > EDLIN - Ha, ha, ha!!!
> >
> > Being the lazy type, I would probably do DIR > SOME.BAT and replace the
> > contents with that of your command in notepad later???
> >
> > The Glenfoyle sadly, has evaporated - I shall have to make do with the
far
> > more expensive Caol Ila (an Islay malt - pronounced as "Cull Eela").
> >
> >
> > Tony. . .
> >
> >
> >
> > "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:751BCC20-4076-4191-81BD-CFA50D03A121@microsoft.com...
> > > Tony,
> > > I did not create the *.bat from an elevated command prompt window.
> > > I had not thought about that!
> > > There's no EDIT command in Vista x64 cmd prompt window.
> > > I will try with Notepad or the old "copy con" command (remember it?)
> > > My results will have to wait a few hours, I am at work now.
> > > Carlos
> > >
> > > "Tony Sperling" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ah, I admit that I forgot you mentioned the elevated command, but
the
> > greyed
> > > > text is strange all the same - did you create the actual *.bat from
an
> > > > elevated command window? It has got EDIT has it not?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tony. . .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:88DCB01C-AB8D-4177-BFCD-E2C5DEB55541@microsoft.com...
> > > > > Tony,
> > > > > I wish it were that simple.
> > > > > If you right-click on the .bat file and go to the "Compatibility"
tab,
> > the
> > > > > square box for checking (and enabling) the batch with
Administrator
> > > > > privileges is greyed out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Keep thinking, I know something will come out. Maybe after a
gooood
> > > > > Glenfoyle, uh?
> > > > >
> > > > > Carlos
> > > > >
> > > > > "Tony Sperling" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The easiest solution probably would be to put a *.BAT file (or
> > > > something?)
> > > > > > in your:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Start
> > Menu\Programs\Startup
> > > > > >
> > > > > > folder, and have that execute the command? At least as long as
> > you're
> > > > not
> > > > > > going to use hundreds of commands like that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You'd probably see the faint shape of a black window flashing
when
> > you
> > > > log
> > > > > > in, but I think there's a 'silence' option switch to disable
that.
> > (Not
> > > > > > sure).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tony. . .
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >

 

[Tony Sperling]

Re: A problem, a solution, a question

Ah - not to mention this one:


http://www.wintellect.com/cs/blogs/...e-a-process-at-the-command-line-in-vista.aspx


Would that meet your needs?


Tony. . .

 

[Carlos]

Re: A problem, a solution, a question

Thanks for your interest, Tony.
Will check those tomorrow. Now it is time to hit the sack.
Carlos

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> Ah - not to mention this one:
>
>
> http://www.wintellect.com/cs/blogs/...e-a-process-at-the-command-line-in-vista.aspx
>
>
> Would that meet your needs?
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
>
>

 

[Carlos]

Re: A problem, a solution, a question

Tony,
Thanks for your help, this link is very good.
I finally gave up on putting it in the startup group as Windows Defender
relentlessly blocks it.
It works, but I have to allow Defender to execute which is more or less the
same that executing my "old" batch file manually.
Carlos

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> Ah - not to mention this one:
>
>
> http://www.wintellect.com/cs/blogs/...e-a-process-at-the-command-line-in-vista.aspx
>
>
> Would that meet your needs?
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
>
>

 

[Tony Sperling]

Re: A problem, a solution, a question

O.K. - that's interesting, and since there is no real UI to Defender, there
is not much anyone can do about that, except perhaps delay it's execution?
I'm thinking, since you are running Avast too, have you noticed that it has
an option to delay running the AV (and I am assuming they are refering to
the 'Service' parts of the system) as the last thing being activated at
log-in? They are not using magic doing this, so there has to be a mechanism
for that.

Also, what happens if you use *.CMD as the filename extension instead of
*.BAT, I don't really believe there should be any difference, but they must
have had a somewhat good reason to introduce an alternative filename so, who
knows?

Have you checked all imaginable batch file execution switches? I am getting
curious, and if I had the time I would investigate this myself, but time is
a substance with a property for evaporation just like many other precious
things in life.

Did you put the batch file in the root directory, or a directory that is on
the 'PATH'?

Just freewheeling a bit for you, Carlos - don't take it too seriously!


Tony. . .



"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news1481777-2D0C-4DCA-8A26-4FE71133109F@microsoft.com...
> Tony,
> Thanks for your help, this link is very good.
> I finally gave up on putting it in the startup group as Windows Defender
> relentlessly blocks it.
> It works, but I have to allow Defender to execute which is more or less
the
> same that executing my "old" batch file manually.
> Carlos
>
> "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>
> > Ah - not to mention this one:
> >
> >
> >
http://www.wintellect.com/cs/blogs/...e-a-process-at-the-command-line-in-vista.aspx
> >
> >
> > Would that meet your needs?
> >
> >
> > Tony. . .
> >
> >
> >
> >

 

[Carlos]

Re: A problem, a solution, a question

Tony,
The problem is that Windows Defender doesn't "like" the Elevate.exe command.
The options for enabling it are greyed out, even if I start Defender as Admin.
It has no issues with the bat or shortcut, it even added the small shield
drawing in the shortcut icon recongnizing that elevate.exe was to be run as
admin.

Carlos

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> O.K. - that's interesting, and since there is no real UI to Defender, there
> is not much anyone can do about that, except perhaps delay it's execution?
> I'm thinking, since you are running Avast too, have you noticed that it has
> an option to delay running the AV (and I am assuming they are refering to
> the 'Service' parts of the system) as the last thing being activated at
> log-in? They are not using magic doing this, so there has to be a mechanism
> for that.
>
> Also, what happens if you use *.CMD as the filename extension instead of
> *.BAT, I don't really believe there should be any difference, but they must
> have had a somewhat good reason to introduce an alternative filename so, who
> knows?
>
> Have you checked all imaginable batch file execution switches? I am getting
> curious, and if I had the time I would investigate this myself, but time is
> a substance with a property for evaporation just like many other precious
> things in life.
>
> Did you put the batch file in the root directory, or a directory that is on
> the 'PATH'?
>
> Just freewheeling a bit for you, Carlos - don't take it too seriously!
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
>
> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news1481777-2D0C-4DCA-8A26-4FE71133109F@microsoft.com...
> > Tony,
> > Thanks for your help, this link is very good.
> > I finally gave up on putting it in the startup group as Windows Defender
> > relentlessly blocks it.
> > It works, but I have to allow Defender to execute which is more or less
> the
> > same that executing my "old" batch file manually.
> > Carlos
> >
> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:
> >
> > > Ah - not to mention this one:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> http://www.wintellect.com/cs/blogs/...e-a-process-at-the-command-line-in-vista.aspx
> > >
> > >
> > > Would that meet your needs?
> > >
> > >
> > > Tony. . .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>