Advice Needed for new Terminal Services Server setup

[JH]

Hello,
I am in the process of setting up a new Terminal Services server. Currently
we use 2003 Server with TS installed on a backup server. I have the new
server in and was wondering if it would be better to just install Windows
2008 and use the new Terminal services? Currently, 2003 TS has been working
well but are limited to printing to a local usb printer. We have one user
that was successful in printing to his USB 1022 HP printer. This printer is
no longer manufactured so it seems I am running to a dead end on getting
local printers to work.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks

 

[Jeff Pitsch]

Re: Advice Needed for new Terminal Services Server setup

There are no real limitations to printing with Win2k3. I'm guessing you
didn't have the driver installed on the server which would prevent printing
from working correctly.

Jeff Pitsch
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

"JH" <JH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F7469C32-8577-460A-904E-E82361F682D4@microsoft.com...
> Hello,
> I am in the process of setting up a new Terminal Services server.
> Currently
> we use 2003 Server with TS installed on a backup server. I have the new
> server in and was wondering if it would be better to just install Windows
> 2008 and use the new Terminal services? Currently, 2003 TS has been
> working
> well but are limited to printing to a local usb printer. We have one user
> that was successful in printing to his USB 1022 HP printer. This printer
> is
> no longer manufactured so it seems I am running to a dead end on getting
> local printers to work.
>
> Any advice would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks

 

[Allen]

Re: Advice Needed for new Terminal Services Server setup

You should check to see if the HP 1022 printer is on the list of
printers supported for RDP printer redirection. My gut tells me it's
not. I've had no problems with recent non-multifunciton HP laserjet
printers, so if this one remote worker is the only issue I would
inform/persuade him/her to buy a new printer. As to running Server
2008, my primary concern would be whether or not all your apps will
run on 2008. If your users are just running Office and browser based
apps, you should not have any problems with Server 2008, but if you
have some third party LOB apps, you may run into issues.

 

[JH]

Re: Advice Needed for new Terminal Services Server setup



"Allen" wrote:

> You should check to see if the HP 1022 printer is on the list of
> printers supported for RDP printer redirection. My gut tells me it's
> not. I've had no problems with recent non-multifunciton HP laserjet
> printers, so if this one remote worker is the only issue I would
> inform/persuade him/her to buy a new printer. As to running Server
> 2008, my primary concern would be whether or not all your apps will
> run on 2008. If your users are just running Office and browser based
> apps, you should not have any problems with Server 2008, but if you
> have some third party LOB apps, you may run into issues.
>

 

[JH]

Re: Advice Needed for new Terminal Services Server setup

Actually, the 1022 is what is recommended for printing to a local printer
while connected in TS. Thanks for the info on the application compatibility
with 2008. I was thinking since it wasn't the 64bit version, that the
applications would work. Maybe I'll stick with 2003 for now.

Have either one of you guys used the dual NIC setup for publishing just the
applications to the users rather than having them log in to the whole desktop?

"Allen" wrote:

> You should check to see if the HP 1022 printer is on the list of
> printers supported for RDP printer redirection. My gut tells me it's
> not. I've had no problems with recent non-multifunciton HP laserjet
> printers, so if this one remote worker is the only issue I would
> inform/persuade him/her to buy a new printer. As to running Server
> 2008, my primary concern would be whether or not all your apps will
> run on 2008. If your users are just running Office and browser based
> apps, you should not have any problems with Server 2008, but if you
> have some third party LOB apps, you may run into issues.
>

 

[JH]

Re: Advice Needed for new Terminal Services Server setup

Yeah, I did have three different printers and a multitude of drivers when
trying to print to a local printer via USb through TS. None of the worked
until I purchased the 1022 which was what was recommended in other MSOFt
groups.

Thanks, but maybe I'll just stick with 2003 for now.

"Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

> There are no real limitations to printing with Win2k3. I'm guessing you
> didn't have the driver installed on the server which would prevent printing
> from working correctly.
>
> Jeff Pitsch
> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
>
> "JH" <JH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F7469C32-8577-460A-904E-E82361F682D4@microsoft.com...
> > Hello,
> > I am in the process of setting up a new Terminal Services server.
> > Currently
> > we use 2003 Server with TS installed on a backup server. I have the new
> > server in and was wondering if it would be better to just install Windows
> > 2008 and use the new Terminal services? Currently, 2003 TS has been
> > working
> > well but are limited to printing to a local usb printer. We have one user
> > that was successful in printing to his USB 1022 HP printer. This printer
> > is
> > no longer manufactured so it seems I am running to a dead end on getting
> > local printers to work.
> >
> > Any advice would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
>
>
>

 

[Jeff Pitsch]

Re: Advice Needed for new Terminal Services Server setup

Dual NIC setup? Why Dual NIC's for published apps?

Jeff Pitsch
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

"JH" <JH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5CB19772-8756-4787-A3C0-C8B83EEB89F8@microsoft.com...
> Actually, the 1022 is what is recommended for printing to a local printer
> while connected in TS. Thanks for the info on the application
> compatibility
> with 2008. I was thinking since it wasn't the 64bit version, that the
> applications would work. Maybe I'll stick with 2003 for now.
>
> Have either one of you guys used the dual NIC setup for publishing just
> the
> applications to the users rather than having them log in to the whole
> desktop?
>
> "Allen" wrote:
>
>> You should check to see if the HP 1022 printer is on the list of
>> printers supported for RDP printer redirection. My gut tells me it's
>> not. I've had no problems with recent non-multifunciton HP laserjet
>> printers, so if this one remote worker is the only issue I would
>> inform/persuade him/her to buy a new printer. As to running Server
>> 2008, my primary concern would be whether or not all your apps will
>> run on 2008. If your users are just running Office and browser based
>> apps, you should not have any problems with Server 2008, but if you
>> have some third party LOB apps, you may run into issues.
>>

 

[JH]

Re: Advice Needed for new Terminal Services Server setup

Yes for the published apps. I haven't done this before and wondered if it was
pretty reliable.

Thanks

"Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

> Dual NIC setup? Why Dual NIC's for published apps?
>
> Jeff Pitsch
> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
>
> "JH" <JH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5CB19772-8756-4787-A3C0-C8B83EEB89F8@microsoft.com...
> > Actually, the 1022 is what is recommended for printing to a local printer
> > while connected in TS. Thanks for the info on the application
> > compatibility
> > with 2008. I was thinking since it wasn't the 64bit version, that the
> > applications would work. Maybe I'll stick with 2003 for now.
> >
> > Have either one of you guys used the dual NIC setup for publishing just
> > the
> > applications to the users rather than having them log in to the whole
> > desktop?
> >
> > "Allen" wrote:
> >
> >> You should check to see if the HP 1022 printer is on the list of
> >> printers supported for RDP printer redirection. My gut tells me it's
> >> not. I've had no problems with recent non-multifunciton HP laserjet
> >> printers, so if this one remote worker is the only issue I would
> >> inform/persuade him/her to buy a new printer. As to running Server
> >> 2008, my primary concern would be whether or not all your apps will
> >> run on 2008. If your users are just running Office and browser based
> >> apps, you should not have any problems with Server 2008, but if you
> >> have some third party LOB apps, you may run into issues.
> >>
>
>
>

 

[Vera Noest [MVP]]

Re: Advice Needed for new Terminal Services Server setup

As you can see in HP's documentation here:

HP Printers Supported in Citrix MetaFrame Presentation and Terminal
Server Environments
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?
objectID=c00213455

the HP LJ 1022 is supported under TS, as long as you use the HP
Laserjet 6L PCLe driver which comes with the Windows OS.

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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=?Utf-8?B?Skg=?= <JH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 29 jul
2008:

> Actually, the 1022 is what is recommended for printing to a
> local printer while connected in TS. Thanks for the info on the
> application compatibility with 2008. I was thinking since it
> wasn't the 64bit version, that the applications would work.
> Maybe I'll stick with 2003 for now.
>
> Have either one of you guys used the dual NIC setup for
> publishing just the applications to the users rather than having
> them log in to the whole desktop?
>
> "Allen" wrote:
>
>> You should check to see if the HP 1022 printer is on the list
>> of printers supported for RDP printer redirection. My gut tells
>> me it's not. I've had no problems with recent non-multifunciton
>> HP laserjet printers, so if this one remote worker is the only
>> issue I would inform/persuade him/her to buy a new printer. As
>> to running Server 2008, my primary concern would be whether or
>> not all your apps will run on 2008. If your users are just
>> running Office and browser based apps, you should not have any
>> problems with Server 2008, but if you have some third party LOB
>> apps, you may run into issues.

 

[Jeff Pitsch]

Re: Advice Needed for new Terminal Services Server setup

I would avoid dual nic's. Windows doesn't dual home all that well. is
there a particular reason you need dual homed nic's? Or are you
implementing load balancing with the NIC's or something?

Jeff Pitsch
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

"JH" <JH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5A5E73A9-716D-456E-8FB5-7233E15AC342@microsoft.com...
> Yes for the published apps. I haven't done this before and wondered if it
> was
> pretty reliable.
>
> Thanks
>
> "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:
>
>> Dual NIC setup? Why Dual NIC's for published apps?
>>
>> Jeff Pitsch
>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
>>
>> "JH" <JH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:5CB19772-8756-4787-A3C0-C8B83EEB89F8@microsoft.com...
>> > Actually, the 1022 is what is recommended for printing to a local
>> > printer
>> > while connected in TS. Thanks for the info on the application
>> > compatibility
>> > with 2008. I was thinking since it wasn't the 64bit version, that the
>> > applications would work. Maybe I'll stick with 2003 for now.
>> >
>> > Have either one of you guys used the dual NIC setup for publishing just
>> > the
>> > applications to the users rather than having them log in to the whole
>> > desktop?
>> >
>> > "Allen" wrote:
>> >
>> >> You should check to see if the HP 1022 printer is on the list of
>> >> printers supported for RDP printer redirection. My gut tells me it's
>> >> not. I've had no problems with recent non-multifunciton HP laserjet
>> >> printers, so if this one remote worker is the only issue I would
>> >> inform/persuade him/her to buy a new printer. As to running Server
>> >> 2008, my primary concern would be whether or not all your apps will
>> >> run on 2008. If your users are just running Office and browser based
>> >> apps, you should not have any problems with Server 2008, but if you
>> >> have some third party LOB apps, you may run into issues.
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

 

[Hank Arnold (MVP)]

Re: Advice Needed for new Terminal Services Server setup

JH wrote:
> Hello,
> I am in the process of setting up a new Terminal Services server. Currently
> we use 2003 Server with TS installed on a backup server. I have the new
> server in and was wondering if it would be better to just install Windows
> 2008 and use the new Terminal services? Currently, 2003 TS has been working
> well but are limited to printing to a local usb printer. We have one user
> that was successful in printing to his USB 1022 HP printer. This printer is
> no longer manufactured so it seems I am running to a dead end on getting
> local printers to work.
>
> Any advice would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
As Jeff and others have indicated, printing problems in TS are usually
driver driven. Either corrupt or won't work under TS.

One thing to consider is that none (and I do mean *NONE*) of your Server
2003 licenses are valid. You will need new server licenses, server CALs
and TSCALs. This can run into a few bucks.................

Sounds like you just need to resolve your printing problems within 2003....

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services