2K3 Server - TServer - Office 2007 Licensing scenario

[jueberro]

Hello all:

I have a terminal server that I want to install office 2007 on. I
bought 10 TS User CALS. I have 7 workstations. I have 5 Users but
this will grow to 7. Only 4 are in the Remote Desktop Users Group. I
need to get Office 2007 Pro installed on those 7 workstations and on
the terminal server so that we can set up Business Contact Manager
2007. 4 of these users travel (The 4 set up on terminal server).
These 4 use their home computers to come in via RDP from home, and
they also come into the tertminal server from hotel business centers
etc... They have portables that they sometimes take with them (These
are their work computers that they use when in the office.)

Currently 3 of the 4 laptops have Office 2007 OEM, and one has 2003
OEM. The other 3 workstations have Office 2003 OEM.

After reading the information I found on the Licensing website...

See:


I think I need..

a) Restrict access to as close to a device model as I can on the
terminal server.

As I stated... I have purchased 10 TS User CALS long ago without
software assurrance. The reason I say this is that from what I
reading... I must and can only install a Volume License Office 2007 on
the server and you must then install this Volume Licensed copy of
Office 2007 on all 7 desktop/laptops. Then only these devices can
access the terminal server. But because I am using TS User CALS I
cannot restrict access by device. I have placed 4 users in the Remote
desktop users group, but this does not restrict the hardware they
access the network from. I have looked at a prpouct from 2X software
called Secure RDP that is Freeware that will allow me to rerstrict by
MAC, but do not know anyone using it and am therefore hesitant to
install. My feeling is this. Microsoft has a very complicated
licensing problem. I conform within that world as best as any small
business person can be expected to given this complexity. The intent
was to license the terminal server for up to 10 users on less than
that number of machines. The reason being that temps may be brought
in and one of the machine needs to be logged into by multiple network
users, and I liked the benfits of a central point of softwarre
management, and the remote access capabilities of terminal server.
Now because they have nothing like a User License for Office I must I
cannot allow my remoe users to even connect from a hotel computer to
run a report from their manufacturing software to check a number, or
look at quickbooks. Even way back when I started on PC's in the DOS
days you could meter access by user to apps on a Novell or Windows
network.

b) Install the Volume Licensed Office 2007 Pro on the server and the
3 workstations and 4 portables.

Here are my questions.

What do I buy my 4 users for their home computers so that they can log
in from home to the terminal server? They don't want to have to take
their portables home every night.

What do I buy my users from an Office License standpoint so that they
can get to the terminal server legally from a hotel. Can my users
legally remote to their workstations using something like GoToMyPC or
Logmein and use there legally licenced PCs to RDP to the server?

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Vera Noest [MVP]]

Re: 2K3 Server - TServer - Office 2007 Licensing scenario

Yes, the real problem here is the fact that Office can't be
licensed per user. Microsoft, do you read this?

You should really ask these questions to your local Microsoft
representative (not a reseller). I can tell you only what most
people do:

Make sure that you limit which users can access Office on the TS
(you have already done that with their membership in the Remote
Desktop Users group). If you later would want to allow more users
access to the TS but not Office, you can use NTFS permissions on
the Office folder.

Regarding the clients: I'd buy enough Office licenses to cover all
clients which are under your control, i.e. the workstations,
laptops and the 4 home computers. That's the best you can do. I
would allow my 4 travelling users to connect to the TS from any
public domain computer (and run Office on it). There's no realistic
way in which you can buy licenses for this situation.
And if Office licenses were actually issued by the server (as TS
Per Device licenses are), you would still get away with this
scenario, since such public domain computers then presumably would
receive a temporary license.

But again, don't take my word for it that this is OK, talk to a
Microsoft representative and try to get a statement from them.
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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jueberro <joeueberroth@vpcusa.com> wrote on 30 jul 2008 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Hello all:
>
> I have a terminal server that I want to install office 2007 on.
> I bought 10 TS User CALS. I have 7 workstations. I have 5
> Users but this will grow to 7. Only 4 are in the Remote Desktop
> Users Group. I need to get Office 2007 Pro installed on those 7
> workstations and on the terminal server so that we can set up
> Business Contact Manager 2007. 4 of these users travel (The 4
> set up on terminal server). These 4 use their home computers to
> come in via RDP from home, and they also come into the tertminal
> server from hotel business centers etc... They have portables
> that they sometimes take with them (These are their work
> computers that they use when in the office.)
>
> Currently 3 of the 4 laptops have Office 2007 OEM, and one has
> 2003 OEM. The other 3 workstations have Office 2003 OEM.
>
> After reading the information I found on the Licensing
> website...
>
> See:
>
>
> I think I need..
>
> a) Restrict access to as close to a device model as I can on
> the terminal server.
>
> As I stated... I have purchased 10 TS User CALS long ago without
> software assurrance. The reason I say this is that from what I
> reading... I must and can only install a Volume License Office
> 2007 on the server and you must then install this Volume
> Licensed copy of Office 2007 on all 7 desktop/laptops. Then
> only these devices can access the terminal server. But because
> I am using TS User CALS I cannot restrict access by device. I
> have placed 4 users in the Remote desktop users group, but this
> does not restrict the hardware they access the network from. I
> have looked at a prpouct from 2X software called Secure RDP that
> is Freeware that will allow me to rerstrict by MAC, but do not
> know anyone using it and am therefore hesitant to install. My
> feeling is this. Microsoft has a very complicated licensing
> problem. I conform within that world as best as any small
> business person can be expected to given this complexity. The
> intent was to license the terminal server for up to 10 users on
> less than that number of machines. The reason being that temps
> may be brought in and one of the machine needs to be logged into
> by multiple network users, and I liked the benfits of a central
> point of softwarre management, and the remote access
> capabilities of terminal server. Now because they have nothing
> like a User License for Office I must I cannot allow my remoe
> users to even connect from a hotel computer to run a report from
> their manufacturing software to check a number, or look at
> quickbooks. Even way back when I started on PC's in the DOS
> days you could meter access by user to apps on a Novell or
> Windows network.
>
> b) Install the Volume Licensed Office 2007 Pro on the server
> and the 3 workstations and 4 portables.
>
> Here are my questions.
>
> What do I buy my 4 users for their home computers so that they
> can log in from home to the terminal server? They don't want to
> have to take their portables home every night.
>
> What do I buy my users from an Office License standpoint so that
> they can get to the terminal server legally from a hotel. Can
> my users legally remote to their workstations using something
> like GoToMyPC or Logmein and use there legally licenced PCs to
> RDP to the server?
>
> Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.