TS 2008 How to re-assign user license?

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I had a user that was connecting to TS 2008 using user mode licensing and now
that user is no longer with the company. How do I free up his license for
use by a new user?

Also, how can I tell what users are taking licenses? The only report I can
find shows how many licenses are in use and not who is using them.

Thanks in advance,

-Nathan
 
Re: TS 2008 How to re-assign user license?

"Ssupertech" <Ssupertech@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D0FB0E9B-4FB2-45CC-A867-2F5798762829@microsoft.com...
>I had a user that was connecting to TS 2008 using user mode licensing and
>now
> that user is no longer with the company. How do I free up his license for
> use by a new user?
>
> Also, how can I tell what users are taking licenses? The only report I
> can
> find shows how many licenses are in use and not who is using them.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -Nathan
>
>


To revoke the Per-User CAL, you can delete the user's object in AD.

License tracking:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ts/archive/2007/08/06/terminal-services-per-user-licensing-usage-tracking.aspx

Rob
 
Re: TS 2008 How to re-assign user license?


What if I still want the user to have access to AD through their local
workstation or OWA but not TS is there a way to do this and free up the
license for another user?

Sometimes I have users that were in the Field move into the office that no
longer require TS.

Are you saying that I need to remove the user in AD and create a new user to
free the license? This would be very cumbersome as we are using roaming
profiles.








"Rob Leitman [MSFT]" wrote:

> "Ssupertech" <Ssupertech@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D0FB0E9B-4FB2-45CC-A867-2F5798762829@microsoft.com...
> >I had a user that was connecting to TS 2008 using user mode licensing and
> >now
> > that user is no longer with the company. How do I free up his license for
> > use by a new user?
> >
> > Also, how can I tell what users are taking licenses? The only report I
> > can
> > find shows how many licenses are in use and not who is using them.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > -Nathan
> >
> >
>
>
> To revoke the Per-User CAL, you can delete the user's object in AD.
>
> License tracking:
> http://blogs.msdn.com/ts/archive/2007/08/06/terminal-services-per-user-licensing-usage-tracking.aspx
>
> Rob
>
>
 
Re: TS 2008 How to re-assign user license?

"Ssupertech" <Ssupertech@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C9DBFFBD-EBAA-4251-9A72-72C244AEFAC2@microsoft.com...
>
> What if I still want the user to have access to AD through their local
> workstation or OWA but not TS is there a way to do this and free up the
> license for another user?
>
> Sometimes I have users that were in the Field move into the office that no
> longer require TS.
>
> Are you saying that I need to remove the user in AD and create a new user
> to
> free the license? This would be very cumbersome as we are using roaming
> profiles.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Rob Leitman [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>> "Ssupertech" <Ssupertech@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:D0FB0E9B-4FB2-45CC-A867-2F5798762829@microsoft.com...
>> >I had a user that was connecting to TS 2008 using user mode licensing
>> >and
>> >now
>> > that user is no longer with the company. How do I free up his license
>> > for
>> > use by a new user?
>> >
>> > Also, how can I tell what users are taking licenses? The only report I
>> > can
>> > find shows how many licenses are in use and not who is using them.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> >
>> > -Nathan
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> To revoke the Per-User CAL, you can delete the user's object in AD.
>>
>> License tracking:
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ts/archive/2007/08/06/terminal-services-per-user-licensing-usage-tracking.aspx
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>


Instead of deleting the User object, you could just delete the attribute
holding the user's license.

Rob
 
Re: TS 2008 How to re-assign user license?

"Rob Leitman [MSFT]" <robleit@microsoft.com> wrote on 31 jul 2008:

> "Ssupertech" <Ssupertech@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> news:C9DBFFBD-EBAA-4251-9A72-72C244AEFAC2@microsoft.com...
>>
>> What if I still want the user to have access to AD through
>> their local workstation or OWA but not TS is there a way to do
>> this and free up the license for another user?
>>
>> Sometimes I have users that were in the Field move into the
>> office that no longer require TS.
>>
>> Are you saying that I need to remove the user in AD and create
>> a new user to
>> free the license? This would be very cumbersome as we are
>> using roaming profiles.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Rob Leitman [MSFT]" wrote:
>>
>>> "Ssupertech" <Ssupertech@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:D0FB0E9B-4FB2-45CC-A867-2F5798762829@microsoft.com...
>>> >I had a user that was connecting to TS 2008 using user mode
>>> >licensing and
>>> >now
>>> > that user is no longer with the company. How do I free up
>>> > his license for
>>> > use by a new user?
>>> >
>>> > Also, how can I tell what users are taking licenses? The
>>> > only report I can
>>> > find shows how many licenses are in use and not who is using
>>> > them.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks in advance,
>>> >
>>> > -Nathan
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> To revoke the Per-User CAL, you can delete the user's object
>>> in AD.
>>>
>>> License tracking:
>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ts/archive/2007/08/06/terminal-services-p
>>> er-user-licensing-usage-tracking.aspx
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>
> Instead of deleting the User object, you could just delete the
> attribute holding the user's license.
>
> Rob

Rob, do you mean that one has to use ADSIedit or WMI and scripting
to remove the Terminal Services attribut in AD, just to keep the
Licensing Report up-to-date?
Do you really want the average TS manager to do that? And are you
sure that the average TS manager has enough rights to do that?
Have you considered to provide us with a little tool to do this?

If not, the Per User licensing report is bound to become totally
useless after a couple of months.

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
*----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*
 
Re: TS 2008 How to re-assign user license?

Hello nail, meet sledgehammer :) LOL

Jeff Pitsch
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services


"Vera Noest [MVP]" <Vera.Noest@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote in message
news:Xns9AED75101A921veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...
> "Rob Leitman [MSFT]" <robleit@microsoft.com> wrote on 31 jul 2008:
>
>> "Ssupertech" <Ssupertech@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:C9DBFFBD-EBAA-4251-9A72-72C244AEFAC2@microsoft.com...
>>>
>>> What if I still want the user to have access to AD through
>>> their local workstation or OWA but not TS is there a way to do
>>> this and free up the license for another user?
>>>
>>> Sometimes I have users that were in the Field move into the
>>> office that no longer require TS.
>>>
>>> Are you saying that I need to remove the user in AD and create
>>> a new user to
>>> free the license? This would be very cumbersome as we are
>>> using roaming profiles.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rob Leitman [MSFT]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Ssupertech" <Ssupertech@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>>> message
>>>> news:D0FB0E9B-4FB2-45CC-A867-2F5798762829@microsoft.com...
>>>> >I had a user that was connecting to TS 2008 using user mode
>>>> >licensing and
>>>> >now
>>>> > that user is no longer with the company. How do I free up
>>>> > his license for
>>>> > use by a new user?
>>>> >
>>>> > Also, how can I tell what users are taking licenses? The
>>>> > only report I can
>>>> > find shows how many licenses are in use and not who is using
>>>> > them.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks in advance,
>>>> >
>>>> > -Nathan
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To revoke the Per-User CAL, you can delete the user's object
>>>> in AD.
>>>>
>>>> License tracking:
>>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ts/archive/2007/08/06/terminal-services-p
>>>> er-user-licensing-usage-tracking.aspx
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> Instead of deleting the User object, you could just delete the
>> attribute holding the user's license.
>>
>> Rob
>
> Rob, do you mean that one has to use ADSIedit or WMI and scripting
> to remove the Terminal Services attribut in AD, just to keep the
> Licensing Report up-to-date?
> Do you really want the average TS manager to do that? And are you
> sure that the average TS manager has enough rights to do that?
> Have you considered to provide us with a little tool to do this?
>
> If not, the Per User licensing report is bound to become totally
> useless after a couple of months.
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*
 
Re: TS 2008 How to re-assign user license?

I can't find attributes for terminal server license in the AD users and
computers -user properties. Does the check box for deny this user terminal
server access remove the license perhaps?



"Rob Leitman [MSFT]" wrote:

> "Ssupertech" <Ssupertech@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C9DBFFBD-EBAA-4251-9A72-72C244AEFAC2@microsoft.com...
> >
> > What if I still want the user to have access to AD through their local
> > workstation or OWA but not TS is there a way to do this and free up the
> > license for another user?
> >
> > Sometimes I have users that were in the Field move into the office that no
> > longer require TS.
> >
> > Are you saying that I need to remove the user in AD and create a new user
> > to
> > free the license? This would be very cumbersome as we are using roaming
> > profiles.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Rob Leitman [MSFT]" wrote:
> >
> >> "Ssupertech" <Ssupertech@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:D0FB0E9B-4FB2-45CC-A867-2F5798762829@microsoft.com...
> >> >I had a user that was connecting to TS 2008 using user mode licensing
> >> >and
> >> >now
> >> > that user is no longer with the company. How do I free up his license
> >> > for
> >> > use by a new user?
> >> >
> >> > Also, how can I tell what users are taking licenses? The only report I
> >> > can
> >> > find shows how many licenses are in use and not who is using them.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance,
> >> >
> >> > -Nathan
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> To revoke the Per-User CAL, you can delete the user's object in AD.
> >>
> >> License tracking:
> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/ts/archive/2007/08/06/terminal-services-per-user-licensing-usage-tracking.aspx
> >>
> >> Rob
> >>
> >>
>
>
> Instead of deleting the User object, you could just delete the attribute
> holding the user's license.
>
> Rob
>
>
 
Re: TS 2008 How to re-assign user license?

"Vera Noest [MVP]" <Vera.Noest@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote in message
news:Xns9AED75101A921veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...
> "Rob Leitman [MSFT]" <robleit@microsoft.com> wrote on 31 jul 2008:
>
>> "Ssupertech" <Ssupertech@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:C9DBFFBD-EBAA-4251-9A72-72C244AEFAC2@microsoft.com...
>>>
>>> What if I still want the user to have access to AD through
>>> their local workstation or OWA but not TS is there a way to do
>>> this and free up the license for another user?
>>>
>>> Sometimes I have users that were in the Field move into the
>>> office that no longer require TS.
>>>
>>> Are you saying that I need to remove the user in AD and create
>>> a new user to
>>> free the license? This would be very cumbersome as we are
>>> using roaming profiles.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rob Leitman [MSFT]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Ssupertech" <Ssupertech@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>>> message
>>>> news:D0FB0E9B-4FB2-45CC-A867-2F5798762829@microsoft.com...
>>>> >I had a user that was connecting to TS 2008 using user mode
>>>> >licensing and
>>>> >now
>>>> > that user is no longer with the company. How do I free up
>>>> > his license for
>>>> > use by a new user?
>>>> >
>>>> > Also, how can I tell what users are taking licenses? The
>>>> > only report I can
>>>> > find shows how many licenses are in use and not who is using
>>>> > them.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks in advance,
>>>> >
>>>> > -Nathan
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To revoke the Per-User CAL, you can delete the user's object
>>>> in AD.
>>>>
>>>> License tracking:
>>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ts/archive/2007/08/06/terminal-services-p
>>>> er-user-licensing-usage-tracking.aspx
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> Instead of deleting the User object, you could just delete the
>> attribute holding the user's license.
>>
>> Rob
>
> Rob, do you mean that one has to use ADSIedit or WMI and scripting
> to remove the Terminal Services attribut in AD, just to keep the
> Licensing Report up-to-date?
> Do you really want the average TS manager to do that? And are you
> sure that the average TS manager has enough rights to do that?
> Have you considered to provide us with a little tool to do this?
>
> If not, the Per User licensing report is bound to become totally
> useless after a couple of months.

The Per-User CAL will get reclaimed after ~90 days without doing anything,
so the report will be fine in the long run.

If:
1) Users are no longer using TS.
2) But still need an account.
3) But you can't wait until the CAL is reclaimed
Then:
You can hand-edit the User object in AD.

The attributes involved are either terminalServer (on Win2003 schemas) or
msTSManagingLS, msTSLicenseVersion, msTSExpireDate (on Win2008 schemas).

Rob
 
Re: TS 2008 How to re-assign user license?

> You can hand-edit the User object in AD.
>
> The attributes involved are either terminalServer (on Win2003 schemas) or
> msTSManagingLS, msTSLicenseVersion, msTSExpireDate (on Win2008 schemas).
>

How do you manually edit a User objet in AD?, Also this does not seem right
that I can't use the license manager to manage licenses?

I am using SBS2003 as the AD server and Server 2008 STD as the teminal and
the terminal is the license server.










"Rob Leitman [MSFT]" wrote:

> "Vera Noest [MVP]" <Vera.Noest@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote in message
> news:Xns9AED75101A921veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...
> > "Rob Leitman [MSFT]" <robleit@microsoft.com> wrote on 31 jul 2008:
> >
> >> "Ssupertech" <Ssupertech@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message
> >> news:C9DBFFBD-EBAA-4251-9A72-72C244AEFAC2@microsoft.com...
> >>>
> >>> What if I still want the user to have access to AD through
> >>> their local workstation or OWA but not TS is there a way to do
> >>> this and free up the license for another user?
> >>>
> >>> Sometimes I have users that were in the Field move into the
> >>> office that no longer require TS.
> >>>
> >>> Are you saying that I need to remove the user in AD and create
> >>> a new user to
> >>> free the license? This would be very cumbersome as we are
> >>> using roaming profiles.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Rob Leitman [MSFT]" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Ssupertech" <Ssupertech@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >>>> message
> >>>> news:D0FB0E9B-4FB2-45CC-A867-2F5798762829@microsoft.com...
> >>>> >I had a user that was connecting to TS 2008 using user mode
> >>>> >licensing and
> >>>> >now
> >>>> > that user is no longer with the company. How do I free up
> >>>> > his license for
> >>>> > use by a new user?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Also, how can I tell what users are taking licenses? The
> >>>> > only report I can
> >>>> > find shows how many licenses are in use and not who is using
> >>>> > them.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Thanks in advance,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > -Nathan
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> To revoke the Per-User CAL, you can delete the user's object
> >>>> in AD.
> >>>>
> >>>> License tracking:
> >>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ts/archive/2007/08/06/terminal-services-p
> >>>> er-user-licensing-usage-tracking.aspx
> >>>>
> >>>> Rob
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >> Instead of deleting the User object, you could just delete the
> >> attribute holding the user's license.
> >>
> >> Rob
> >
> > Rob, do you mean that one has to use ADSIedit or WMI and scripting
> > to remove the Terminal Services attribut in AD, just to keep the
> > Licensing Report up-to-date?
> > Do you really want the average TS manager to do that? And are you
> > sure that the average TS manager has enough rights to do that?
> > Have you considered to provide us with a little tool to do this?
> >
> > If not, the Per User licensing report is bound to become totally
> > useless after a couple of months.
>
> The Per-User CAL will get reclaimed after ~90 days without doing anything,
> so the report will be fine in the long run.
>
> If:
> 1) Users are no longer using TS.
> 2) But still need an account.
> 3) But you can't wait until the CAL is reclaimed
> Then:
> You can hand-edit the User object in AD.
>
> The attributes involved are either terminalServer (on Win2003 schemas) or
> msTSManagingLS, msTSLicenseVersion, msTSExpireDate (on Win2008 schemas).
>
> Rob
>
>
 
Re: TS 2008 How to re-assign user license?

"Rob Leitman [MSFT]" <robleit@microsoft.com> wrote on 04 aug 2008:

> "Vera Noest [MVP]" <Vera.Noest@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote
> in message
> news:Xns9AED75101A921veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...
>> "Rob Leitman [MSFT]" <robleit@microsoft.com> wrote on 31 jul
>>>
>>> Instead of deleting the User object, you could just delete the
>>> attribute holding the user's license.
>>
>> Rob, do you mean that one has to use ADSIedit or WMI and
>> scripting to remove the Terminal Services attribut in AD, just
>> to keep the Licensing Report up-to-date?
>> Do you really want the average TS manager to do that? And are
>> you sure that the average TS manager has enough rights to do
>> that? Have you considered to provide us with a little tool to
>> do this?
>>
>> If not, the Per User licensing report is bound to become
>> totally useless after a couple of months.
>
> The Per-User CAL will get reclaimed after ~90 days without doing
> anything, so the report will be fine in the long run.
>
> If:
> 1) Users are no longer using TS.
> 2) But still need an account.
> 3) But you can't wait until the CAL is reclaimed
> Then:
> You can hand-edit the User object in AD.
>
> The attributes involved are either terminalServer (on Win2003
> schemas) or msTSManagingLS, msTSLicenseVersion, msTSExpireDate
> (on Win2008 schemas).
>
> Rob

Aaah, that's useful information and good to know!
Thanks, Rob!
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
*----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*
 
Re: TS 2008 How to re-assign user license?

"Ssupertech" <Ssupertech@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:84FE0177-0033-4812-8695-EEE5398BDA33@microsoft.com...
>> You can hand-edit the User object in AD.
>>
>> The attributes involved are either terminalServer (on Win2003 schemas) or
>> msTSManagingLS, msTSLicenseVersion, msTSExpireDate (on Win2008 schemas).
>>
>
> How do you manually edit a User objet in AD?, Also this does not seem
> right
> that I can't use the license manager to manage licenses?
>
> I am using SBS2003 as the AD server and Server 2008 STD as the teminal and
> the terminal is the license server.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Rob Leitman [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>> "Vera Noest [MVP]" <Vera.Noest@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote in
>> message
>> news:Xns9AED75101A921veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...
>> > "Rob Leitman [MSFT]" <robleit@microsoft.com> wrote on 31 jul 2008:
>> >
>> >> "Ssupertech" <Ssupertech@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:C9DBFFBD-EBAA-4251-9A72-72C244AEFAC2@microsoft.com...
>> >>>
>> >>> What if I still want the user to have access to AD through
>> >>> their local workstation or OWA but not TS is there a way to do
>> >>> this and free up the license for another user?
>> >>>
>> >>> Sometimes I have users that were in the Field move into the
>> >>> office that no longer require TS.
>> >>>
>> >>> Are you saying that I need to remove the user in AD and create
>> >>> a new user to
>> >>> free the license? This would be very cumbersome as we are
>> >>> using roaming profiles.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Rob Leitman [MSFT]" wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> "Ssupertech" <Ssupertech@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >>>> message
>> >>>> news:D0FB0E9B-4FB2-45CC-A867-2F5798762829@microsoft.com...
>> >>>> >I had a user that was connecting to TS 2008 using user mode
>> >>>> >licensing and
>> >>>> >now
>> >>>> > that user is no longer with the company. How do I free up
>> >>>> > his license for
>> >>>> > use by a new user?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Also, how can I tell what users are taking licenses? The
>> >>>> > only report I can
>> >>>> > find shows how many licenses are in use and not who is using
>> >>>> > them.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Thanks in advance,
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > -Nathan
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> To revoke the Per-User CAL, you can delete the user's object
>> >>>> in AD.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> License tracking:
>> >>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ts/archive/2007/08/06/terminal-services-p
>> >>>> er-user-licensing-usage-tracking.aspx
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Rob
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >> Instead of deleting the User object, you could just delete the
>> >> attribute holding the user's license.
>> >>
>> >> Rob
>> >
>> > Rob, do you mean that one has to use ADSIedit or WMI and scripting
>> > to remove the Terminal Services attribut in AD, just to keep the
>> > Licensing Report up-to-date?
>> > Do you really want the average TS manager to do that? And are you
>> > sure that the average TS manager has enough rights to do that?
>> > Have you considered to provide us with a little tool to do this?
>> >
>> > If not, the Per User licensing report is bound to become totally
>> > useless after a couple of months.
>>
>> The Per-User CAL will get reclaimed after ~90 days without doing
>> anything,
>> so the report will be fine in the long run.
>>
>> If:
>> 1) Users are no longer using TS.
>> 2) But still need an account.
>> 3) But you can't wait until the CAL is reclaimed
>> Then:
>> You can hand-edit the User object in AD.
>>
>> The attributes involved are either terminalServer (on Win2003 schemas) or
>> msTSManagingLS, msTSLicenseVersion, msTSExpireDate (on Win2008 schemas).
>>


If you aren't familiar with editing AD, I wouldn't start now. Just wait for
the CALs to be automatically be reclaimed.

Rob
 
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