B
bagger
Guest
trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the file aspi2dos.sys
was not found". any help appreciated.
tia
was not found". any help appreciated.
tia
A
Alias
Guest
Re: Start up disk-me ie sp1
bagger wrote:
> trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the file aspi2dos.sys
> was not found". any help appreciated.
> tia
You can find one at:
http://www.bootdisk.com
Alias
bagger wrote:
> trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the file aspi2dos.sys
> was not found". any help appreciated.
> tia
You can find one at:
http://www.bootdisk.com
Alias
M
Mike M
Guest
Re: Start up disk-me ie sp1
It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing at the
correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files), normally either
C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of the files
required for the start-up disk should also be present in the folder
C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a start-up
disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder. Try looking
for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk point it
towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a missing file.
Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you can
download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com. Download
the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the prompts
which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the downloaded
file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject line
"Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to do with the
start-up disk.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com
bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the file
> aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
> tia
It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing at the
correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files), normally either
C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of the files
required for the start-up disk should also be present in the folder
C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a start-up
disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder. Try looking
for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk point it
towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a missing file.
Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you can
download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com. Download
the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the prompts
which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the downloaded
file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject line
"Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to do with the
start-up disk.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com
bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the file
> aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
> tia
B
bagger
Guest
Re: Start up disk-me ie sp1
i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first thought.
it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system locked up. the
CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in the device
manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag all OK. Did a
scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys restore, was not
successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but does. printer,
external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
"Mike M" wrote:
> It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing at the
> correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files), normally either
> C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of the files
> required for the start-up disk should also be present in the folder
> C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a start-up
> disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder. Try looking
> for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk point it
> towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a missing file.
> >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
> Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you can
> download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com. Download
> the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the prompts
> which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the downloaded
> file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
>> was able to create a disk from this site
>
> Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject line
> "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to do with the
> start-up disk.
> > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the file
> > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
> > tia
>
>
i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first thought.
it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system locked up. the
CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in the device
manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag all OK. Did a
scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys restore, was not
successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but does. printer,
external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
"Mike M" wrote:
> It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing at the
> correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files), normally either
> C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of the files
> required for the start-up disk should also be present in the folder
> C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a start-up
> disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder. Try looking
> for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk point it
> towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a missing file.
> >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
> Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you can
> download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com. Download
> the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the prompts
> which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the downloaded
> file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
>> was able to create a disk from this site
>
> Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject line
> "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to do with the
> start-up disk.
> > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the file
> > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
> > tia
>
>
C
Corday
Guest
Re: Start up disk-me ie sp1
Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
Corday
"bagger" wrote:
> i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first thought.
> it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system locked up. the
> CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in the device
> manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag all OK. Did a
> scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys restore, was not
> successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but does. printer,
> external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
>
> "Mike M" wrote:
>
> > It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing at the
> > correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files), normally either
> > C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of the files
> > required for the start-up disk should also be present in the folder
> > C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a start-up
> > disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder. Try looking
> > for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk point it
> > towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a missing file.
>
> > >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
> > Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you can
> > download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com. Download
> > the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the prompts
> > which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the downloaded
> > file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
>
> >> was able to create a disk from this site
> >
> > Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject line
> > "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to do with the
> > start-up disk.
>
>
> > > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
> > Mike Maltby
> > mike.maltby@gmail.com
> >
> >
> > bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the file
> > > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
> > > tia
> >
> >
Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
Corday
"bagger" wrote:
> i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first thought.
> it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system locked up. the
> CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in the device
> manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag all OK. Did a
> scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys restore, was not
> successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but does. printer,
> external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
>
> "Mike M" wrote:
>
> > It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing at the
> > correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files), normally either
> > C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of the files
> > required for the start-up disk should also be present in the folder
> > C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a start-up
> > disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder. Try looking
> > for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk point it
> > towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a missing file.
>
> > >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
> > Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you can
> > download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com. Download
> > the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the prompts
> > which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the downloaded
> > file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
>
> >> was able to create a disk from this site
> >
> > Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject line
> > "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to do with the
> > start-up disk.
>
>
> > > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
> > Mike Maltby
> > mike.maltby@gmail.com
> >
> >
> > bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the file
> > > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
> > > tia
> >
> >
B
bagger
Guest
Re: Start up disk-me ie sp1
OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in the device
manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the bios version
line.
Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however lost all
previous dates were lost which is understandable.
"Corday" wrote:
> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
> Corday
>
>
> "bagger" wrote:
>
> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first thought.
> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system locked up. the
> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in the device
> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag all OK. Did a
> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys restore, was not
> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but does. printer,
> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
> >
> > "Mike M" wrote:
> >
> > > It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing at the
> > > correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files), normally either
> > > C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of the files
> > > required for the start-up disk should also be present in the folder
> > > C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a start-up
> > > disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder. Try looking
> > > for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk point it
> > > towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a missing file.
> >
> > > >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
> > > Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you can
> > > download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com. Download
> > > the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the prompts
> > > which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the downloaded
> > > file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
> >
> > >> was able to create a disk from this site
> > >
> > > Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject line
> > > "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to do with the
> > > start-up disk.
> >
> >
> > > > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
> > > Mike Maltby
> > > mike.maltby@gmail.com
> > >
> > >
> > > bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the file
> > > > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
> > > > tia
> > >
> > >
OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in the device
manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the bios version
line.
Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however lost all
previous dates were lost which is understandable.
"Corday" wrote:
> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
> Corday
>
>
> "bagger" wrote:
>
> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first thought.
> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system locked up. the
> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in the device
> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag all OK. Did a
> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys restore, was not
> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but does. printer,
> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
> >
> > "Mike M" wrote:
> >
> > > It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing at the
> > > correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files), normally either
> > > C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of the files
> > > required for the start-up disk should also be present in the folder
> > > C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a start-up
> > > disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder. Try looking
> > > for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk point it
> > > towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a missing file.
> >
> > > >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
> > > Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you can
> > > download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com. Download
> > > the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the prompts
> > > which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the downloaded
> > > file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
> >
> > >> was able to create a disk from this site
> > >
> > > Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject line
> > > "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to do with the
> > > start-up disk.
> >
> >
> > > > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
> > > Mike Maltby
> > > mike.maltby@gmail.com
> > >
> > >
> > > bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the file
> > > > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
> > > > tia
> > >
> > >
C
Corday
Guest
Re: Start up disk-me ie sp1
Using SR in safe mode wipes out previous "saves". If you have a dignostic
program like Norrton System Works or Dell's, try running hardware check and
see what happens.
--
I mastered Wordstar graphics!
"bagger" wrote:
> OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in the device
> manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
> performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the bios version
> line.
> Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however lost all
> previous dates were lost which is understandable.
>
> "Corday" wrote:
>
> > Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
> > Corday
> >
> >
> > "bagger" wrote:
> >
> > > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first thought.
> > > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system locked up. the
> > > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in the device
> > > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag all OK. Did a
> > > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys restore, was not
> > > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but does. printer,
> > > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
> > >
> > > "Mike M" wrote:
> > >
> > > > It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing at the
> > > > correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files), normally either
> > > > C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of the files
> > > > required for the start-up disk should also be present in the folder
> > > > C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a start-up
> > > > disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder. Try looking
> > > > for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk point it
> > > > towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a missing file.
> > >
> > > > >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
> > > > Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you can
> > > > download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com. Download
> > > > the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the prompts
> > > > which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the downloaded
> > > > file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
> > >
> > > >> was able to create a disk from this site
> > > >
> > > > Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject line
> > > > "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to do with the
> > > > start-up disk.
> > >
> > >
> > > > > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
> > > > Mike Maltby
> > > > mike.maltby@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the file
> > > > > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
> > > > > tia
> > > >
> > > >
Using SR in safe mode wipes out previous "saves". If you have a dignostic
program like Norrton System Works or Dell's, try running hardware check and
see what happens.
--
I mastered Wordstar graphics!
"bagger" wrote:
> OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in the device
> manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
> performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the bios version
> line.
> Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however lost all
> previous dates were lost which is understandable.
>
> "Corday" wrote:
>
> > Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
> > Corday
> >
> >
> > "bagger" wrote:
> >
> > > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first thought.
> > > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system locked up. the
> > > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in the device
> > > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag all OK. Did a
> > > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys restore, was not
> > > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but does. printer,
> > > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
> > >
> > > "Mike M" wrote:
> > >
> > > > It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing at the
> > > > correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files), normally either
> > > > C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of the files
> > > > required for the start-up disk should also be present in the folder
> > > > C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a start-up
> > > > disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder. Try looking
> > > > for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk point it
> > > > towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a missing file.
> > >
> > > > >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
> > > > Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you can
> > > > download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com. Download
> > > > the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the prompts
> > > > which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the downloaded
> > > > file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
> > >
> > > >> was able to create a disk from this site
> > > >
> > > > Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject line
> > > > "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to do with the
> > > > start-up disk.
> > >
> > >
> > > > > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
> > > > Mike Maltby
> > > > mike.maltby@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the file
> > > > > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
> > > > > tia
> > > >
> > > >
M
Mike M
Guest
Re: Start up disk-me ie sp1
> Using SR in safe mode wipes out previous "saves".
Incorrect, using SR in safe mode does not "wipe out" system restore
checkpoints or clear the archive, however, as "bagger" said, installing
the 290700 patch clears the archive and resets the state manager.
Perhaps you meant instead to say that when using SR from Safe Mode it does
not automatically create a checkpoint meaning that you cannot undo the
restore.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com
Corday <10Swinner@net.net> wrote:
> Using SR in safe mode wipes out previous "saves". If you have a
> dignostic program like Norrton System Works or Dell's, try running
> hardware check and see what happens.
> Using SR in safe mode wipes out previous "saves".
Incorrect, using SR in safe mode does not "wipe out" system restore
checkpoints or clear the archive, however, as "bagger" said, installing
the 290700 patch clears the archive and resets the state manager.
Perhaps you meant instead to say that when using SR from Safe Mode it does
not automatically create a checkpoint meaning that you cannot undo the
restore.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com
Corday <10Swinner@net.net> wrote:
> Using SR in safe mode wipes out previous "saves". If you have a
> dignostic program like Norrton System Works or Dell's, try running
> hardware check and see what happens.
M
Mart
Guest
Re: Start up disk-me ie sp1
You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't loaded in Safe
Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows Explorer etc., it
will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over' from previous
'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
> Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
Two suggested courses of action :-
1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and controllers)
then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install it/them.
2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM. Therefore Boot
using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support option. If all
boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to your CD-ROM
(e.g. D
and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the Help Page) try
inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
(e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
If so, then that's a good start.
Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be working and
WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the thread, I just
wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about". Let us know how
you get on.
Mart
"bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
> OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in the device
> manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
> performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the bios
> version
> line.
> Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however lost all
> previous dates were lost which is understandable.
>
> "Corday" wrote:
>
>> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
>> Corday
>>
>>
>> "bagger" wrote:
>>
>> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first thought.
>> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system locked up.
>> > the
>> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in the device
>> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag all OK.
>> > Did a
>> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys restore, was
>> > not
>> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but does.
>> > printer,
>> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
>> >
>> > "Mike M" wrote:
>> >
>> > > It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing at
>> > > the
>> > > correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files), normally
>> > > either
>> > > C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of the
>> > > files
>> > > required for the start-up disk should also be present in the folder
>> > > C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a
>> > > start-up
>> > > disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder. Try
>> > > looking
>> > > for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk point it
>> > > towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a missing
>> > > file.
>> >
>> > > >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
>> > > Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you can
>> > > download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com.
>> > > Download
>> > > the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the
>> > > prompts
>> > > which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the
>> > > downloaded
>> > > file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
>> >
>> > >> was able to create a disk from this site
>> > >
>> > > Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject line
>> > > "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to do
>> > > with the
>> > > start-up disk.
>> >
>> >
>> > > > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
>> > > Mike Maltby
>> > > mike.maltby@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the file
>> > > > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
>> > > > tia
>> > >
>> > >
You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't loaded in Safe
Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows Explorer etc., it
will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over' from previous
'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
> Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
Two suggested courses of action :-
1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and controllers)
then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install it/them.
2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM. Therefore Boot
using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support option. If all
boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to your CD-ROM
(e.g. D
and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the Help Page) try inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
(e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
If so, then that's a good start.
Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be working and
WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the thread, I just
wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about". Let us know how
you get on.
Mart
"bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
> OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in the device
> manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
> performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the bios
> version
> line.
> Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however lost all
> previous dates were lost which is understandable.
>
> "Corday" wrote:
>
>> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
>> Corday
>>
>>
>> "bagger" wrote:
>>
>> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first thought.
>> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system locked up.
>> > the
>> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in the device
>> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag all OK.
>> > Did a
>> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys restore, was
>> > not
>> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but does.
>> > printer,
>> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
>> >
>> > "Mike M" wrote:
>> >
>> > > It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing at
>> > > the
>> > > correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files), normally
>> > > either
>> > > C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of the
>> > > files
>> > > required for the start-up disk should also be present in the folder
>> > > C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a
>> > > start-up
>> > > disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder. Try
>> > > looking
>> > > for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk point it
>> > > towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a missing
>> > > file.
>> >
>> > > >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
>> > > Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you can
>> > > download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com.
>> > > Download
>> > > the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the
>> > > prompts
>> > > which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the
>> > > downloaded
>> > > file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
>> >
>> > >> was able to create a disk from this site
>> > >
>> > > Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject line
>> > > "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to do
>> > > with the
>> > > start-up disk.
>> >
>> >
>> > > > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
>> > > Mike Maltby
>> > > mike.maltby@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the file
>> > > > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
>> > > > tia
>> > >
>> > >
B
bagger
Guest
Re: Start up disk-me ie sp1
Thks, Mart, really appreciate the help.
> 1.
didn't work.
>2. If 1 is not successful,
this worked,
but had to manually open & close the disc door. Also,the cdrom does not
show in the device mgr in the safe mode after performing #1.
Again, from my original post, this all started when trying to read a picture
disc in my cdrom. Later that disc was checked for viruses in my external
burner attached to my system. My sys is a Dell 4100 (8 yrs old) also when
booting either normally or safe mode, it takes 60 sec between the Dell logo &
Windows logo which never happened before. Also, lost the sys restore
function which had to do a repatch to get to work again, but lost all
previous restore dates. I've tried all sorts of diagnostics on the system
per kb articles.
"Mart" wrote:
> You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
>
> Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
>
> That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
>
> You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
>
> Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't loaded in Safe
> Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows Explorer etc., it
> will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over' from previous
> 'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
>
> > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
>
> Two suggested courses of action :-
> 1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and controllers)
> then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install it/them.
>
> 2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM. Therefore Boot
> using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support option. If all
> boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to your CD-ROM
> (e.g. D and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the Help Page) try
> inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
> (e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
>
> The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
>
> If so, then that's a good start.
>
> Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
>
> You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
>
> If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be working and
> WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
>
> Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the thread, I just
> wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about". Let us know how
> you get on.
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
> > OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in the device
> > manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
> > performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the bios
> > version
> > line.
> > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> > Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however lost all
> > previous dates were lost which is understandable.
> >
> > "Corday" wrote:
> >
> >> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
> >> Corday
> >>
> >>
> >> "bagger" wrote:
> >>
> >> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first thought.
> >> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system locked up.
> >> > the
> >> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in the device
> >> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag all OK.
> >> > Did a
> >> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys restore, was
> >> > not
> >> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but does.
> >> > printer,
> >> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
> >> >
> >> > "Mike M" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing at
> >> > > the
> >> > > correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files), normally
> >> > > either
> >> > > C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of the
> >> > > files
> >> > > required for the start-up disk should also be present in the folder
> >> > > C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a
> >> > > start-up
> >> > > disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder. Try
> >> > > looking
> >> > > for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk point it
> >> > > towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a missing
> >> > > file.
> >> >
> >> > > >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
> >> > > Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you can
> >> > > download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com.
> >> > > Download
> >> > > the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the
> >> > > prompts
> >> > > which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the
> >> > > downloaded
> >> > > file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
> >> >
> >> > >> was able to create a disk from this site
> >> > >
> >> > > Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject line
> >> > > "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to do
> >> > > with the
> >> > > start-up disk.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
> >> > > Mike Maltby
> >> > > mike.maltby@gmail.com
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the file
> >> > > > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
> >> > > > tia
> >> > >
> >> > >
>
>
>
Thks, Mart, really appreciate the help.
> 1.
didn't work.
>2. If 1 is not successful,
this worked,
but had to manually open & close the disc door. Also,the cdrom does not
show in the device mgr in the safe mode after performing #1.
Again, from my original post, this all started when trying to read a picture
disc in my cdrom. Later that disc was checked for viruses in my external
burner attached to my system. My sys is a Dell 4100 (8 yrs old) also when
booting either normally or safe mode, it takes 60 sec between the Dell logo &
Windows logo which never happened before. Also, lost the sys restore
function which had to do a repatch to get to work again, but lost all
previous restore dates. I've tried all sorts of diagnostics on the system
per kb articles.
"Mart" wrote:
> You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
>
> Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
>
> That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
>
> You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
>
> Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't loaded in Safe
> Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows Explorer etc., it
> will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over' from previous
> 'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
>
> > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
>
> Two suggested courses of action :-
> 1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and controllers)
> then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install it/them.
>
> 2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM. Therefore Boot
> using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support option. If all
> boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to your CD-ROM
> (e.g. D
and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the Help Page) try > inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
> (e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
>
> The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
>
> If so, then that's a good start.
>
> Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
>
> You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
>
> If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be working and
> WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
>
> Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the thread, I just
> wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about". Let us know how
> you get on.
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
> > OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in the device
> > manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
> > performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the bios
> > version
> > line.
> > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> > Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however lost all
> > previous dates were lost which is understandable.
> >
> > "Corday" wrote:
> >
> >> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
> >> Corday
> >>
> >>
> >> "bagger" wrote:
> >>
> >> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first thought.
> >> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system locked up.
> >> > the
> >> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in the device
> >> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag all OK.
> >> > Did a
> >> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys restore, was
> >> > not
> >> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but does.
> >> > printer,
> >> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
> >> >
> >> > "Mike M" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing at
> >> > > the
> >> > > correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files), normally
> >> > > either
> >> > > C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of the
> >> > > files
> >> > > required for the start-up disk should also be present in the folder
> >> > > C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a
> >> > > start-up
> >> > > disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder. Try
> >> > > looking
> >> > > for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk point it
> >> > > towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a missing
> >> > > file.
> >> >
> >> > > >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
> >> > > Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you can
> >> > > download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com.
> >> > > Download
> >> > > the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the
> >> > > prompts
> >> > > which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the
> >> > > downloaded
> >> > > file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
> >> >
> >> > >> was able to create a disk from this site
> >> > >
> >> > > Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject line
> >> > > "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to do
> >> > > with the
> >> > > start-up disk.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
> >> > > Mike Maltby
> >> > > mike.maltby@gmail.com
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the file
> >> > > > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
> >> > > > tia
> >> > >
> >> > >
>
>
>
C
Corday
Guest
Re: Start up disk-me ie sp1
NEC made most of the DVD stuff for Dell back in "the day". You might try
their website. Hate to say the obvious, but a clean Windows ME reinstall
might be inorder.
--
I mastered Wordstar graphics!
"bagger" wrote:
> Thks, Mart, really appreciate the help.
>
> > 1.
> didn't work.
>
> >2. If 1 is not successful,
> this worked,
>
> but had to manually open & close the disc door. Also,the cdrom does not
> show in the device mgr in the safe mode after performing #1.
> Again, from my original post, this all started when trying to read a picture
> disc in my cdrom. Later that disc was checked for viruses in my external
> burner attached to my system. My sys is a Dell 4100 (8 yrs old) also when
> booting either normally or safe mode, it takes 60 sec between the Dell logo &
> Windows logo which never happened before. Also, lost the sys restore
> function which had to do a repatch to get to work again, but lost all
> previous restore dates. I've tried all sorts of diagnostics on the system
> per kb articles.
>
>
>
> "Mart" wrote:
>
> > You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
> >
> > Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
> >
> > That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
> >
> > You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
> >
> > Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't loaded in Safe
> > Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows Explorer etc., it
> > will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over' from previous
> > 'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
> >
> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> >
> > Two suggested courses of action :-
> > 1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and controllers)
> > then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install it/them.
> >
> > 2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM. Therefore Boot
> > using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support option. If all
> > boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to your CD-ROM
> > (e.g. D and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the Help Page) try
> > inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
> > (e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
> >
> > The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
> >
> > If so, then that's a good start.
> >
> > Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
> >
> > You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
> >
> > If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be working and
> > WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
> >
> > Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the thread, I just
> > wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about". Let us know how
> > you get on.
> >
> > Mart
> >
> >
> >
> > "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
> > > OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in the device
> > > manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
> > > performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the bios
> > > version
> > > line.
> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> > > Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however lost all
> > > previous dates were lost which is understandable.
> > >
> > > "Corday" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
> > >> Corday
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "bagger" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first thought.
> > >> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system locked up.
> > >> > the
> > >> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in the device
> > >> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag all OK.
> > >> > Did a
> > >> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys restore, was
> > >> > not
> > >> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but does.
> > >> > printer,
> > >> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
> > >> >
> > >> > "Mike M" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing at
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files), normally
> > >> > > either
> > >> > > C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of the
> > >> > > files
> > >> > > required for the start-up disk should also be present in the folder
> > >> > > C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a
> > >> > > start-up
> > >> > > disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder. Try
> > >> > > looking
> > >> > > for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk point it
> > >> > > towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a missing
> > >> > > file.
> > >> >
> > >> > > >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
> > >> > > Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you can
> > >> > > download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com.
> > >> > > Download
> > >> > > the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the
> > >> > > prompts
> > >> > > which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the
> > >> > > downloaded
> > >> > > file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
> > >> >
> > >> > >> was able to create a disk from this site
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject line
> > >> > > "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to do
> > >> > > with the
> > >> > > start-up disk.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
> > >> > > Mike Maltby
> > >> > > mike.maltby@gmail.com
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the file
> > >> > > > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
> > >> > > > tia
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> >
> >
> >
NEC made most of the DVD stuff for Dell back in "the day". You might try
their website. Hate to say the obvious, but a clean Windows ME reinstall
might be inorder.
--
I mastered Wordstar graphics!
"bagger" wrote:
> Thks, Mart, really appreciate the help.
>
> > 1.
> didn't work.
>
> >2. If 1 is not successful,
> this worked,
>
> but had to manually open & close the disc door. Also,the cdrom does not
> show in the device mgr in the safe mode after performing #1.
> Again, from my original post, this all started when trying to read a picture
> disc in my cdrom. Later that disc was checked for viruses in my external
> burner attached to my system. My sys is a Dell 4100 (8 yrs old) also when
> booting either normally or safe mode, it takes 60 sec between the Dell logo &
> Windows logo which never happened before. Also, lost the sys restore
> function which had to do a repatch to get to work again, but lost all
> previous restore dates. I've tried all sorts of diagnostics on the system
> per kb articles.
>
>
>
> "Mart" wrote:
>
> > You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
> >
> > Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
> >
> > That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
> >
> > You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
> >
> > Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't loaded in Safe
> > Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows Explorer etc., it
> > will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over' from previous
> > 'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
> >
> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> >
> > Two suggested courses of action :-
> > 1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and controllers)
> > then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install it/them.
> >
> > 2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM. Therefore Boot
> > using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support option. If all
> > boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to your CD-ROM
> > (e.g. D
and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the Help Page) try > > inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
> > (e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
> >
> > The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
> >
> > If so, then that's a good start.
> >
> > Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
> >
> > You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
> >
> > If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be working and
> > WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
> >
> > Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the thread, I just
> > wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about". Let us know how
> > you get on.
> >
> > Mart
> >
> >
> >
> > "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
> > > OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in the device
> > > manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
> > > performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the bios
> > > version
> > > line.
> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> > > Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however lost all
> > > previous dates were lost which is understandable.
> > >
> > > "Corday" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
> > >> Corday
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "bagger" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first thought.
> > >> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system locked up.
> > >> > the
> > >> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in the device
> > >> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag all OK.
> > >> > Did a
> > >> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys restore, was
> > >> > not
> > >> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but does.
> > >> > printer,
> > >> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
> > >> >
> > >> > "Mike M" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing at
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files), normally
> > >> > > either
> > >> > > C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of the
> > >> > > files
> > >> > > required for the start-up disk should also be present in the folder
> > >> > > C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a
> > >> > > start-up
> > >> > > disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder. Try
> > >> > > looking
> > >> > > for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk point it
> > >> > > towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a missing
> > >> > > file.
> > >> >
> > >> > > >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
> > >> > > Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you can
> > >> > > download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com.
> > >> > > Download
> > >> > > the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the
> > >> > > prompts
> > >> > > which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the
> > >> > > downloaded
> > >> > > file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
> > >> >
> > >> > >> was able to create a disk from this site
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject line
> > >> > > "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to do
> > >> > > with the
> > >> > > start-up disk.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
> > >> > > Mike Maltby
> > >> > > mike.maltby@gmail.com
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the file
> > >> > > > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
> > >> > > > tia
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> >
> >
> >
M
Mart
Guest
Re: Start up disk-me ie sp1
Bagger, on the face of it, I have to agree with Corday that clean install of
WinMe may be your only (well, quickest and easiest) solution. It would
certainly appear that your CD-ROM is not faulty if suggestion #2 was
successful and that suggests the problem is therefore with your WinMe
installation.
However .... several things that you've mentioned in the thread ring
little alarm bells.
You started by implying the link to aspi2dos.sys was missing - in itself is
no biggie, just a little unusual but does raise the question why. This
leads to another question in my mind, why did you feel the need to create a
boot disk? - OK, you had a problem with the CD (and CD-ROM) but if you
weren't aware of suggestion #2 (which I assume you weren't) then what were
you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
Then you pointed out that scanreg /restore was unsuccessful (and latest
cab.file not started??) - as in it didn't restore at all?, or just didn't
fix the problem? You didn't make that too clear (to me).
But then you confuse us with talk of an external cd burner. So please
clarify exactly which CD-ROM you are having problems with.
Then finally(ish) you say that you tried (several?) KB article fixes which
makes me wonder if some of your system files have (since?) become damaged -
and now with all those little alarm bells ringing, that's where I start to
agree with Corday's solution.
But perhaps a little more interesting is in your last reply re:
suggestion#2, when you said :-
> this worked, but had to manually open & close the disc door.
Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel? How did you expect to
open & close it when you were in Real Mode DOS - WinMe would not even have
been loaded so how else would you open & close it?
and then :-
> Also, the cdrom does not show in the device mgr
> in the safe mode after performing #1.
Well as you'd previously "Removed" it in the first part of #1, then it won't
show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you re-booted (into
Normal Mode)
Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files) WinMe
installation.
Mart
"Corday" <10Swinner@net.net> wrote in message
news:88CF19E0-CD8A-48B8-B4D5-E82D2012DDDF@microsoft.com...
> NEC made most of the DVD stuff for Dell back in "the day". You might try
> their website. Hate to say the obvious, but a clean Windows ME reinstall
> might be inorder.
> --
> I mastered Wordstar graphics!
>
>
> "bagger" wrote:
>
>> Thks, Mart, really appreciate the help.
>>
>> > 1.
>> didn't work.
>>
>> >2. If 1 is not successful,
>> this worked,
>>
>> but had to manually open & close the disc door. Also,the cdrom does not
>> show in the device mgr in the safe mode after performing #1.
>> Again, from my original post, this all started when trying to read a
>> picture
>> disc in my cdrom. Later that disc was checked for viruses in my external
>> burner attached to my system. My sys is a Dell 4100 (8 yrs old) also
>> when
>> booting either normally or safe mode, it takes 60 sec between the Dell
>> logo &
>> Windows logo which never happened before. Also, lost the sys restore
>> function which had to do a repatch to get to work again, but lost all
>> previous restore dates. I've tried all sorts of diagnostics on the
>> system
>> per kb articles.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mart" wrote:
>>
>> > You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
>> >
>> > Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
>> >
>> > That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
>> >
>> > You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
>> >
>> > Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't loaded in Safe
>> > Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows Explorer
>> > etc., it
>> > will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over' from
>> > previous
>> > 'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
>> >
>> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
>> >
>> > Two suggested courses of action :-
>> > 1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and
>> > controllers)
>> > then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install it/them.
>> >
>> > 2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM. Therefore
>> > Boot
>> > using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support option.
>> > If all
>> > boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to your
>> > CD-ROM
>> > (e.g. D and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the Help
>> > Page) try
>> > inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
>> > (e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
>> >
>> > The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
>> >
>> > If so, then that's a good start.
>> >
>> > Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
>> >
>> > You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
>> >
>> > If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be working
>> > and
>> > WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
>> >
>> > Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the thread, I just
>> > wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about". Let us know
>> > how
>> > you get on.
>> >
>> > Mart
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
>> > > OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in the
>> > > device
>> > > manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
>> > > performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the bios
>> > > version
>> > > line.
>> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
>> > > Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however lost
>> > > all
>> > > previous dates were lost which is understandable.
>> > >
>> > > "Corday" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
>> > >> Corday
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "bagger" wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first thought.
>> > >> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system locked
>> > >> > up.
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in the
>> > >> > device
>> > >> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag
>> > >> > all OK.
>> > >> > Did a
>> > >> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys restore,
>> > >> > was
>> > >> > not
>> > >> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but
>> > >> > does.
>> > >> > printer,
>> > >> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > "Mike M" wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing
>> > >> > > at
>> > >> > > the
>> > >> > > correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files),
>> > >> > > normally
>> > >> > > either
>> > >> > > C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of
>> > >> > > the
>> > >> > > files
>> > >> > > required for the start-up disk should also be present in the
>> > >> > > folder
>> > >> > > C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a
>> > >> > > start-up
>> > >> > > disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder.
>> > >> > > Try
>> > >> > > looking
>> > >> > > for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk
>> > >> > > point it
>> > >> > > towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a
>> > >> > > missing
>> > >> > > file.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
>> > >> > > Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you
>> > >> > > can
>> > >> > > download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com.
>> > >> > > Download
>> > >> > > the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the
>> > >> > > prompts
>> > >> > > which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the
>> > >> > > downloaded
>> > >> > > file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >> was able to create a disk from this site
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject
>> > >> > > line
>> > >> > > "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to
>> > >> > > do
>> > >> > > with the
>> > >> > > start-up disk.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
>> > >> > > Mike Maltby
>> > >> > > mike.maltby@gmail.com
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the
>> > >> > > > file
>> > >> > > > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
>> > >> > > > tia
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
Bagger, on the face of it, I have to agree with Corday that clean install of
WinMe may be your only (well, quickest and easiest) solution. It would
certainly appear that your CD-ROM is not faulty if suggestion #2 was
successful and that suggests the problem is therefore with your WinMe
installation.
However .... several things that you've mentioned in the thread ring
little alarm bells.
You started by implying the link to aspi2dos.sys was missing - in itself is
no biggie, just a little unusual but does raise the question why. This
leads to another question in my mind, why did you feel the need to create a
boot disk? - OK, you had a problem with the CD (and CD-ROM) but if you
weren't aware of suggestion #2 (which I assume you weren't) then what were
you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
Then you pointed out that scanreg /restore was unsuccessful (and latest
cab.file not started??) - as in it didn't restore at all?, or just didn't
fix the problem? You didn't make that too clear (to me).
But then you confuse us with talk of an external cd burner. So please
clarify exactly which CD-ROM you are having problems with.
Then finally(ish) you say that you tried (several?) KB article fixes which
makes me wonder if some of your system files have (since?) become damaged -
and now with all those little alarm bells ringing, that's where I start to
agree with Corday's solution.
But perhaps a little more interesting is in your last reply re:
suggestion#2, when you said :-
> this worked, but had to manually open & close the disc door.
Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel? How did you expect to
open & close it when you were in Real Mode DOS - WinMe would not even have
been loaded so how else would you open & close it?
and then :-
> Also, the cdrom does not show in the device mgr
> in the safe mode after performing #1.
Well as you'd previously "Removed" it in the first part of #1, then it won't
show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you re-booted (into
Normal Mode)
Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files) WinMe
installation.
Mart
"Corday" <10Swinner@net.net> wrote in message
news:88CF19E0-CD8A-48B8-B4D5-E82D2012DDDF@microsoft.com...
> NEC made most of the DVD stuff for Dell back in "the day". You might try
> their website. Hate to say the obvious, but a clean Windows ME reinstall
> might be inorder.
> --
> I mastered Wordstar graphics!
>
>
> "bagger" wrote:
>
>> Thks, Mart, really appreciate the help.
>>
>> > 1.
>> didn't work.
>>
>> >2. If 1 is not successful,
>> this worked,
>>
>> but had to manually open & close the disc door. Also,the cdrom does not
>> show in the device mgr in the safe mode after performing #1.
>> Again, from my original post, this all started when trying to read a
>> picture
>> disc in my cdrom. Later that disc was checked for viruses in my external
>> burner attached to my system. My sys is a Dell 4100 (8 yrs old) also
>> when
>> booting either normally or safe mode, it takes 60 sec between the Dell
>> logo &
>> Windows logo which never happened before. Also, lost the sys restore
>> function which had to do a repatch to get to work again, but lost all
>> previous restore dates. I've tried all sorts of diagnostics on the
>> system
>> per kb articles.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mart" wrote:
>>
>> > You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
>> >
>> > Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
>> >
>> > That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
>> >
>> > You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
>> >
>> > Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't loaded in Safe
>> > Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows Explorer
>> > etc., it
>> > will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over' from
>> > previous
>> > 'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
>> >
>> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
>> >
>> > Two suggested courses of action :-
>> > 1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and
>> > controllers)
>> > then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install it/them.
>> >
>> > 2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM. Therefore
>> > Boot
>> > using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support option.
>> > If all
>> > boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to your
>> > CD-ROM
>> > (e.g. D
and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the Help >> > Page) try
>> > inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
>> > (e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
>> >
>> > The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
>> >
>> > If so, then that's a good start.
>> >
>> > Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
>> >
>> > You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
>> >
>> > If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be working
>> > and
>> > WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
>> >
>> > Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the thread, I just
>> > wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about". Let us know
>> > how
>> > you get on.
>> >
>> > Mart
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
>> > > OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in the
>> > > device
>> > > manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
>> > > performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the bios
>> > > version
>> > > line.
>> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
>> > > Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however lost
>> > > all
>> > > previous dates were lost which is understandable.
>> > >
>> > > "Corday" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
>> > >> Corday
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "bagger" wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first thought.
>> > >> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system locked
>> > >> > up.
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in the
>> > >> > device
>> > >> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag
>> > >> > all OK.
>> > >> > Did a
>> > >> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys restore,
>> > >> > was
>> > >> > not
>> > >> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but
>> > >> > does.
>> > >> > printer,
>> > >> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > "Mike M" wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing
>> > >> > > at
>> > >> > > the
>> > >> > > correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files),
>> > >> > > normally
>> > >> > > either
>> > >> > > C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of
>> > >> > > the
>> > >> > > files
>> > >> > > required for the start-up disk should also be present in the
>> > >> > > folder
>> > >> > > C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a
>> > >> > > start-up
>> > >> > > disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder.
>> > >> > > Try
>> > >> > > looking
>> > >> > > for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk
>> > >> > > point it
>> > >> > > towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a
>> > >> > > missing
>> > >> > > file.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
>> > >> > > Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you
>> > >> > > can
>> > >> > > download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com.
>> > >> > > Download
>> > >> > > the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the
>> > >> > > prompts
>> > >> > > which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the
>> > >> > > downloaded
>> > >> > > file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >> was able to create a disk from this site
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject
>> > >> > > line
>> > >> > > "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to
>> > >> > > do
>> > >> > > with the
>> > >> > > start-up disk.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
>> > >> > > Mike Maltby
>> > >> > > mike.maltby@gmail.com
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the
>> > >> > > > file
>> > >> > > > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
>> > >> > > > tia
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
B
bagger
Guest
Re: Start up disk-me ie sp1
Again thks to Mart & Corday for the time.
History- i know just enough to be dangerous.
this system OEM had a problem 4 yrs ago where a Dell tech had me install win
ME over itself where according to Noel Paton & Mike M created version soup.
After some painstaking days & with use of Noel's procedure of reinstalling
IE6, it purred like a kitten. I will say I've been getting some errors on
occasion in the last year or so similar to those days, but nothing like what
has happened with the cdrom in the last 2 weeks.
>(well, quickest and easiest) solution
with me as an operator may not be true
>aspi2dos.sys was missing
that is from on making a start up disk from add/remove dialog box
>need to create a boot disk?
after the original lockup due to the picture cd, thought it wasn't going to
boot normally. took 60 sec between dell logo & windows.
>then what were you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
don't know, just stabbing for answers.
> as in it didn't restore at all?,
yes, once i booted & found cdrom not working thought to do a sys restore to
an earlier date (2). sys restore told me not successful. should have
created a date & tried from that, but me being a dummy installed the patch
which lost all previous dates. After the patch created a date & sys restore
worked.
>clarify exactly which CD-ROM
the original cdrom that came with the system is read only which has the
problem. I tried to purchase from Dell a r/w to replace the read only after
about 4 yrs ago. They didn't have a Dell replacement, so I bought a periphal
usb connected with burner software (nero) No DVD on this system
> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before the
problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
>then it won't show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you re-booted (into Normal Mode)
OK, i understand.
>Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files) WinMe
> installation.
Any suggestions on procedures to do this?
"Mart" wrote:
> Bagger, on the face of it, I have to agree with Corday that clean install of
> WinMe may be your only (well, quickest and easiest) solution. It would
> certainly appear that your CD-ROM is not faulty if suggestion #2 was
> successful and that suggests the problem is therefore with your WinMe
> installation.
>
> However .... several things that you've mentioned in the thread ring
> little alarm bells.
>
> You started by implying the link to aspi2dos.sys was missing - in itself is
> no biggie, just a little unusual but does raise the question why. This
> leads to another question in my mind, why did you feel the need to create a
> boot disk? - OK, you had a problem with the CD (and CD-ROM) but if you
> weren't aware of suggestion #2 (which I assume you weren't) then what were
> you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
>
> Then you pointed out that scanreg /restore was unsuccessful (and latest
> cab.file not started??) - as in it didn't restore at all?, or just didn't
> fix the problem? You didn't make that too clear (to me).
>
> But then you confuse us with talk of an external cd burner. So please
> clarify exactly which CD-ROM you are having problems with.
>
> Then finally(ish) you say that you tried (several?) KB article fixes which
> makes me wonder if some of your system files have (since?) become damaged -
> and now with all those little alarm bells ringing, that's where I start to
> agree with Corday's solution.
>
> But perhaps a little more interesting is in your last reply re:
> suggestion#2, when you said :-
>
> > this worked, but had to manually open & close the disc door.
>
> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel? How did you expect to
> open & close it when you were in Real Mode DOS - WinMe would not even have
> been loaded so how else would you open & close it?
>
> and then :-
>
> > Also, the cdrom does not show in the device mgr
> > in the safe mode after performing #1.
>
> Well as you'd previously "Removed" it in the first part of #1, then it won't
> show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you re-booted (into
> Normal Mode)
>
> Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files) WinMe
> installation.
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "Corday" <10Swinner@net.net> wrote in message
> news:88CF19E0-CD8A-48B8-B4D5-E82D2012DDDF@microsoft.com...
> > NEC made most of the DVD stuff for Dell back in "the day". You might try
> > their website. Hate to say the obvious, but a clean Windows ME reinstall
> > might be inorder.
> > --
> > I mastered Wordstar graphics!
> >
> >
> > "bagger" wrote:
> >
> >> Thks, Mart, really appreciate the help.
> >>
> >> > 1.
> >> didn't work.
> >>
> >> >2. If 1 is not successful,
> >> this worked,
> >>
> >> but had to manually open & close the disc door. Also,the cdrom does not
> >> show in the device mgr in the safe mode after performing #1.
> >> Again, from my original post, this all started when trying to read a
> >> picture
> >> disc in my cdrom. Later that disc was checked for viruses in my external
> >> burner attached to my system. My sys is a Dell 4100 (8 yrs old) also
> >> when
> >> booting either normally or safe mode, it takes 60 sec between the Dell
> >> logo &
> >> Windows logo which never happened before. Also, lost the sys restore
> >> function which had to do a repatch to get to work again, but lost all
> >> previous restore dates. I've tried all sorts of diagnostics on the
> >> system
> >> per kb articles.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mart" wrote:
> >>
> >> > You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
> >> >
> >> > Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
> >> >
> >> > That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
> >> >
> >> > You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
> >> >
> >> > Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't loaded in Safe
> >> > Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows Explorer
> >> > etc., it
> >> > will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over' from
> >> > previous
> >> > 'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
> >> >
> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> >> >
> >> > Two suggested courses of action :-
> >> > 1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and
> >> > controllers)
> >> > then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install it/them.
> >> >
> >> > 2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM. Therefore
> >> > Boot
> >> > using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support option.
> >> > If all
> >> > boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to your
> >> > CD-ROM
> >> > (e.g. D and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the Help
> >> > Page) try
> >> > inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
> >> > (e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
> >> >
> >> > The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
> >> >
> >> > If so, then that's a good start.
> >> >
> >> > Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
> >> >
> >> > You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
> >> >
> >> > If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be working
> >> > and
> >> > WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
> >> >
> >> > Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the thread, I just
> >> > wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about". Let us know
> >> > how
> >> > you get on.
> >> >
> >> > Mart
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
> >> > > OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in the
> >> > > device
> >> > > manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
> >> > > performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the bios
> >> > > version
> >> > > line.
> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> >> > > Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however lost
> >> > > all
> >> > > previous dates were lost which is understandable.
> >> > >
> >> > > "Corday" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
> >> > >> Corday
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "bagger" wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first thought.
> >> > >> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system locked
> >> > >> > up.
> >> > >> > the
> >> > >> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in the
> >> > >> > device
> >> > >> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag
> >> > >> > all OK.
> >> > >> > Did a
> >> > >> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys restore,
> >> > >> > was
> >> > >> > not
> >> > >> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but
> >> > >> > does.
> >> > >> > printer,
> >> > >> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > "Mike M" wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing
> >> > >> > > at
> >> > >> > > the
> >> > >> > > correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files),
> >> > >> > > normally
> >> > >> > > either
> >> > >> > > C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of
> >> > >> > > the
> >> > >> > > files
> >> > >> > > required for the start-up disk should also be present in the
> >> > >> > > folder
> >> > >> > > C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a
> >> > >> > > start-up
> >> > >> > > disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder.
> >> > >> > > Try
> >> > >> > > looking
> >> > >> > > for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk
> >> > >> > > point it
> >> > >> > > towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a
> >> > >> > > missing
> >> > >> > > file.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
> >> > >> > > Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you
> >> > >> > > can
> >> > >> > > download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com.
> >> > >> > > Download
> >> > >> > > the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the
> >> > >> > > prompts
> >> > >> > > which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the
> >> > >> > > downloaded
> >> > >> > > file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > >> was able to create a disk from this site
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject
> >> > >> > > line
> >> > >> > > "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to
> >> > >> > > do
> >> > >> > > with the
> >> > >> > > start-up disk.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
> >> > >> > > Mike Maltby
> >> > >> > > mike.maltby@gmail.com
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the
> >> > >> > > > file
> >> > >> > > > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
> >> > >> > > > tia
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
>
>
>
Again thks to Mart & Corday for the time.
History- i know just enough to be dangerous.
this system OEM had a problem 4 yrs ago where a Dell tech had me install win
ME over itself where according to Noel Paton & Mike M created version soup.
After some painstaking days & with use of Noel's procedure of reinstalling
IE6, it purred like a kitten. I will say I've been getting some errors on
occasion in the last year or so similar to those days, but nothing like what
has happened with the cdrom in the last 2 weeks.
>(well, quickest and easiest) solution
with me as an operator may not be true
>aspi2dos.sys was missing
that is from on making a start up disk from add/remove dialog box
>need to create a boot disk?
after the original lockup due to the picture cd, thought it wasn't going to
boot normally. took 60 sec between dell logo & windows.
>then what were you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
don't know, just stabbing for answers.
> as in it didn't restore at all?,
yes, once i booted & found cdrom not working thought to do a sys restore to
an earlier date (2). sys restore told me not successful. should have
created a date & tried from that, but me being a dummy installed the patch
which lost all previous dates. After the patch created a date & sys restore
worked.
>clarify exactly which CD-ROM
the original cdrom that came with the system is read only which has the
problem. I tried to purchase from Dell a r/w to replace the read only after
about 4 yrs ago. They didn't have a Dell replacement, so I bought a periphal
usb connected with burner software (nero) No DVD on this system
> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before the
problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
>then it won't show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you re-booted (into Normal Mode)
OK, i understand.
>Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files) WinMe
> installation.
Any suggestions on procedures to do this?
"Mart" wrote:
> Bagger, on the face of it, I have to agree with Corday that clean install of
> WinMe may be your only (well, quickest and easiest) solution. It would
> certainly appear that your CD-ROM is not faulty if suggestion #2 was
> successful and that suggests the problem is therefore with your WinMe
> installation.
>
> However .... several things that you've mentioned in the thread ring
> little alarm bells.
>
> You started by implying the link to aspi2dos.sys was missing - in itself is
> no biggie, just a little unusual but does raise the question why. This
> leads to another question in my mind, why did you feel the need to create a
> boot disk? - OK, you had a problem with the CD (and CD-ROM) but if you
> weren't aware of suggestion #2 (which I assume you weren't) then what were
> you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
>
> Then you pointed out that scanreg /restore was unsuccessful (and latest
> cab.file not started??) - as in it didn't restore at all?, or just didn't
> fix the problem? You didn't make that too clear (to me).
>
> But then you confuse us with talk of an external cd burner. So please
> clarify exactly which CD-ROM you are having problems with.
>
> Then finally(ish) you say that you tried (several?) KB article fixes which
> makes me wonder if some of your system files have (since?) become damaged -
> and now with all those little alarm bells ringing, that's where I start to
> agree with Corday's solution.
>
> But perhaps a little more interesting is in your last reply re:
> suggestion#2, when you said :-
>
> > this worked, but had to manually open & close the disc door.
>
> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel? How did you expect to
> open & close it when you were in Real Mode DOS - WinMe would not even have
> been loaded so how else would you open & close it?
>
> and then :-
>
> > Also, the cdrom does not show in the device mgr
> > in the safe mode after performing #1.
>
> Well as you'd previously "Removed" it in the first part of #1, then it won't
> show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you re-booted (into
> Normal Mode)
>
> Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files) WinMe
> installation.
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "Corday" <10Swinner@net.net> wrote in message
> news:88CF19E0-CD8A-48B8-B4D5-E82D2012DDDF@microsoft.com...
> > NEC made most of the DVD stuff for Dell back in "the day". You might try
> > their website. Hate to say the obvious, but a clean Windows ME reinstall
> > might be inorder.
> > --
> > I mastered Wordstar graphics!
> >
> >
> > "bagger" wrote:
> >
> >> Thks, Mart, really appreciate the help.
> >>
> >> > 1.
> >> didn't work.
> >>
> >> >2. If 1 is not successful,
> >> this worked,
> >>
> >> but had to manually open & close the disc door. Also,the cdrom does not
> >> show in the device mgr in the safe mode after performing #1.
> >> Again, from my original post, this all started when trying to read a
> >> picture
> >> disc in my cdrom. Later that disc was checked for viruses in my external
> >> burner attached to my system. My sys is a Dell 4100 (8 yrs old) also
> >> when
> >> booting either normally or safe mode, it takes 60 sec between the Dell
> >> logo &
> >> Windows logo which never happened before. Also, lost the sys restore
> >> function which had to do a repatch to get to work again, but lost all
> >> previous restore dates. I've tried all sorts of diagnostics on the
> >> system
> >> per kb articles.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mart" wrote:
> >>
> >> > You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
> >> >
> >> > Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
> >> >
> >> > That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
> >> >
> >> > You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
> >> >
> >> > Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't loaded in Safe
> >> > Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows Explorer
> >> > etc., it
> >> > will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over' from
> >> > previous
> >> > 'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
> >> >
> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> >> >
> >> > Two suggested courses of action :-
> >> > 1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and
> >> > controllers)
> >> > then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install it/them.
> >> >
> >> > 2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM. Therefore
> >> > Boot
> >> > using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support option.
> >> > If all
> >> > boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to your
> >> > CD-ROM
> >> > (e.g. D
and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the Help > >> > Page) try
> >> > inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
> >> > (e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
> >> >
> >> > The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
> >> >
> >> > If so, then that's a good start.
> >> >
> >> > Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
> >> >
> >> > You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
> >> >
> >> > If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be working
> >> > and
> >> > WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
> >> >
> >> > Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the thread, I just
> >> > wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about". Let us know
> >> > how
> >> > you get on.
> >> >
> >> > Mart
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
> >> > > OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in the
> >> > > device
> >> > > manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
> >> > > performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the bios
> >> > > version
> >> > > line.
> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> >> > > Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however lost
> >> > > all
> >> > > previous dates were lost which is understandable.
> >> > >
> >> > > "Corday" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
> >> > >> Corday
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "bagger" wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first thought.
> >> > >> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system locked
> >> > >> > up.
> >> > >> > the
> >> > >> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in the
> >> > >> > device
> >> > >> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag
> >> > >> > all OK.
> >> > >> > Did a
> >> > >> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys restore,
> >> > >> > was
> >> > >> > not
> >> > >> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but
> >> > >> > does.
> >> > >> > printer,
> >> > >> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > "Mike M" wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't pointing
> >> > >> > > at
> >> > >> > > the
> >> > >> > > correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files),
> >> > >> > > normally
> >> > >> > > either
> >> > >> > > C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All of
> >> > >> > > the
> >> > >> > > files
> >> > >> > > required for the start-up disk should also be present in the
> >> > >> > > folder
> >> > >> > > C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a
> >> > >> > > start-up
> >> > >> > > disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder.
> >> > >> > > Try
> >> > >> > > looking
> >> > >> > > for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk
> >> > >> > > point it
> >> > >> > > towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a
> >> > >> > > missing
> >> > >> > > file.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
> >> > >> > > Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk you
> >> > >> > > can
> >> > >> > > download the image of a Win Me boot disk from www.bootdisk.com.
> >> > >> > > Download
> >> > >> > > the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow the
> >> > >> > > prompts
> >> > >> > > which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy the
> >> > >> > > downloaded
> >> > >> > > file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > >> was able to create a disk from this site
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your subject
> >> > >> > > line
> >> > >> > > "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such to
> >> > >> > > do
> >> > >> > > with the
> >> > >> > > start-up disk.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
> >> > >> > > Mike Maltby
> >> > >> > > mike.maltby@gmail.com
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the
> >> > >> > > > file
> >> > >> > > > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
> >> > >> > > > tia
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
>
>
>
M
Mart
Guest
Re: Start up disk-me ie sp1
Hold fire!! - Is this the real clue?
>> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
> sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before the
> problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
Now this puts a completely different complexion on things.
Please clarify further :-
1. When in Real DOS mode (i.e. booting from the start-up floppy) and with
CD-ROM support, at the A:\> prompt, are you saying the tray won't open with
the pb and you need to use the hairpin technique?
If so, you certainly have a faulty mechanism with your CD-ROM and that issue
alone is just cause for the need of a replacement CD-ROM
However, please also clarify :-
2. If 1. above is true, are you also saying that you CAN successfully
complete the second course of action in my previous post (i.e you can see
the contents of the CD when you use the DIR command in Real Mode DOS)?
So hold fire (for the moment) and clarify the above before you re-install
WinMe!!
Mart
"bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3818E0F3-DC7C-40F6-803F-EC99788032B3@microsoft.com...
> Again thks to Mart & Corday for the time.
> History- i know just enough to be dangerous.
> this system OEM had a problem 4 yrs ago where a Dell tech had me install
> win
> ME over itself where according to Noel Paton & Mike M created version
> soup.
> After some painstaking days & with use of Noel's procedure of reinstalling
> IE6, it purred like a kitten. I will say I've been getting some errors on
> occasion in the last year or so similar to those days, but nothing like
> what
> has happened with the cdrom in the last 2 weeks.
>
>>(well, quickest and easiest) solution
> with me as an operator may not be true
>
>>aspi2dos.sys was missing
> that is from on making a start up disk from add/remove dialog box
>
>>need to create a boot disk?
> after the original lockup due to the picture cd, thought it wasn't going
> to
> boot normally. took 60 sec between dell logo & windows.
>
>>then what were you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
> don't know, just stabbing for answers.
>
>> as in it didn't restore at all?,
> yes, once i booted & found cdrom not working thought to do a sys restore
> to
> an earlier date (2). sys restore told me not successful. should have
> created a date & tried from that, but me being a dummy installed the patch
> which lost all previous dates. After the patch created a date & sys
> restore
> worked.
>
>>clarify exactly which CD-ROM
> the original cdrom that came with the system is read only which has the
> problem. I tried to purchase from Dell a r/w to replace the read only
> after
> about 4 yrs ago. They didn't have a Dell replacement, so I bought a
> periphal
> usb connected with burner software (nero) No DVD on this system
>
>> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
> sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before the
> problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
>
>>then it won't show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you
>>re-booted (into Normal Mode)
> OK, i understand.
>
>>Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files) WinMe
>> installation.
> Any suggestions on procedures to do this?
>
>
>
>
> "Mart" wrote:
>
>> Bagger, on the face of it, I have to agree with Corday that clean install
>> of
>> WinMe may be your only (well, quickest and easiest) solution. It would
>> certainly appear that your CD-ROM is not faulty if suggestion #2 was
>> successful and that suggests the problem is therefore with your WinMe
>> installation.
>>
>> However .... several things that you've mentioned in the thread ring
>> little alarm bells.
>>
>> You started by implying the link to aspi2dos.sys was missing - in itself
>> is
>> no biggie, just a little unusual but does raise the question why. This
>> leads to another question in my mind, why did you feel the need to create
>> a
>> boot disk? - OK, you had a problem with the CD (and CD-ROM) but if you
>> weren't aware of suggestion #2 (which I assume you weren't) then what
>> were
>> you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
>>
>> Then you pointed out that scanreg /restore was unsuccessful (and latest
>> cab.file not started??) - as in it didn't restore at all?, or just didn't
>> fix the problem? You didn't make that too clear (to me).
>>
>> But then you confuse us with talk of an external cd burner. So please
>> clarify exactly which CD-ROM you are having problems with.
>>
>> Then finally(ish) you say that you tried (several?) KB article fixes
>> which
>> makes me wonder if some of your system files have (since?) become
>> damaged -
>> and now with all those little alarm bells ringing, that's where I start
>> to
>> agree with Corday's solution.
>>
>> But perhaps a little more interesting is in your last reply re:
>> suggestion#2, when you said :-
>>
>> > this worked, but had to manually open & close the disc door.
>>
>> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel? How did you expect
>> to
>> open & close it when you were in Real Mode DOS - WinMe would not even
>> have
>> been loaded so how else would you open & close it?
>>
>> and then :-
>>
>> > Also, the cdrom does not show in the device mgr
>> > in the safe mode after performing #1.
>>
>> Well as you'd previously "Removed" it in the first part of #1, then it
>> won't
>> show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you re-booted (into
>> Normal Mode)
>>
>> Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files)
>> WinMe
>> installation.
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>>
>> "Corday" <10Swinner@net.net> wrote in message
>> news:88CF19E0-CD8A-48B8-B4D5-E82D2012DDDF@microsoft.com...
>> > NEC made most of the DVD stuff for Dell back in "the day". You might
>> > try
>> > their website. Hate to say the obvious, but a clean Windows ME
>> > reinstall
>> > might be inorder.
>> > --
>> > I mastered Wordstar graphics!
>> >
>> >
>> > "bagger" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thks, Mart, really appreciate the help.
>> >>
>> >> > 1.
>> >> didn't work.
>> >>
>> >> >2. If 1 is not successful,
>> >> this worked,
>> >>
>> >> but had to manually open & close the disc door. Also,the cdrom does
>> >> not
>> >> show in the device mgr in the safe mode after performing #1.
>> >> Again, from my original post, this all started when trying to read a
>> >> picture
>> >> disc in my cdrom. Later that disc was checked for viruses in my
>> >> external
>> >> burner attached to my system. My sys is a Dell 4100 (8 yrs old) also
>> >> when
>> >> booting either normally or safe mode, it takes 60 sec between the Dell
>> >> logo &
>> >> Windows logo which never happened before. Also, lost the sys restore
>> >> function which had to do a repatch to get to work again, but lost all
>> >> previous restore dates. I've tried all sorts of diagnostics on the
>> >> system
>> >> per kb articles.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Mart" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
>> >> >
>> >> > Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
>> >> >
>> >> > That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
>> >> >
>> >> > You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
>> >> >
>> >> > Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't loaded in
>> >> > Safe
>> >> > Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows Explorer
>> >> > etc., it
>> >> > will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over' from
>> >> > previous
>> >> > 'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
>> >> >
>> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
>> >> >
>> >> > Two suggested courses of action :-
>> >> > 1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and
>> >> > controllers)
>> >> > then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install it/them.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM. Therefore
>> >> > Boot
>> >> > using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support
>> >> > option.
>> >> > If all
>> >> > boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to your
>> >> > CD-ROM
>> >> > (e.g. D and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the Help
>> >> > Page) try
>> >> > inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
>> >> > (e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
>> >> >
>> >> > The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
>> >> >
>> >> > If so, then that's a good start.
>> >> >
>> >> > Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
>> >> >
>> >> > You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
>> >> >
>> >> > If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be
>> >> > working
>> >> > and
>> >> > WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
>> >> >
>> >> > Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the thread, I
>> >> > just
>> >> > wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about". Let us
>> >> > know
>> >> > how
>> >> > you get on.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mart
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
>> >> > > OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in the
>> >> > > device
>> >> > > manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
>> >> > > performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the
>> >> > > bios
>> >> > > version
>> >> > > line.
>> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
>> >> > > Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however
>> >> > > lost
>> >> > > all
>> >> > > previous dates were lost which is understandable.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Corday" wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
>> >> > >> Corday
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> "bagger" wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first
>> >> > >> > thought.
>> >> > >> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system
>> >> > >> > locked
>> >> > >> > up.
>> >> > >> > the
>> >> > >> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in
>> >> > >> > the
>> >> > >> > device
>> >> > >> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag
>> >> > >> > all OK.
>> >> > >> > Did a
>> >> > >> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys
>> >> > >> > restore,
>> >> > >> > was
>> >> > >> > not
>> >> > >> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but
>> >> > >> > does.
>> >> > >> > printer,
>> >> > >> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > "Mike M" wrote:
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > > It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't
>> >> > >> > > pointing
>> >> > >> > > at
>> >> > >> > > the
>> >> > >> > > correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files),
>> >> > >> > > normally
>> >> > >> > > either
>> >> > >> > > C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All
>> >> > >> > > of
>> >> > >> > > the
>> >> > >> > > files
>> >> > >> > > required for the start-up disk should also be present in the
>> >> > >> > > folder
>> >> > >> > > C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a
>> >> > >> > > start-up
>> >> > >> > > disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder.
>> >> > >> > > Try
>> >> > >> > > looking
>> >> > >> > > for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk
>> >> > >> > > point it
>> >> > >> > > towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a
>> >> > >> > > missing
>> >> > >> > > file.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > > >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
>> >> > >> > > Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk
>> >> > >> > > you
>> >> > >> > > can
>> >> > >> > > download the image of a Win Me boot disk from
>> >> > >> > > www.bootdisk.com.
>> >> > >> > > Download
>> >> > >> > > the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow
>> >> > >> > > the
>> >> > >> > > prompts
>> >> > >> > > which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy
>> >> > >> > > the
>> >> > >> > > downloaded
>> >> > >> > > file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > >> was able to create a disk from this site
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your
>> >> > >> > > subject
>> >> > >> > > line
>> >> > >> > > "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such
>> >> > >> > > to
>> >> > >> > > do
>> >> > >> > > with the
>> >> > >> > > start-up disk.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > > > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
>> >> > >> > > Mike Maltby
>> >> > >> > > mike.maltby@gmail.com
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the
>> >> > >> > > > file
>> >> > >> > > > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
>> >> > >> > > > tia
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>
>>
>>
Hold fire!! - Is this the real clue?
>> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
> sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before the
> problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
Now this puts a completely different complexion on things.
Please clarify further :-
1. When in Real DOS mode (i.e. booting from the start-up floppy) and with
CD-ROM support, at the A:\> prompt, are you saying the tray won't open with
the pb and you need to use the hairpin technique?
If so, you certainly have a faulty mechanism with your CD-ROM and that issue
alone is just cause for the need of a replacement CD-ROM
However, please also clarify :-
2. If 1. above is true, are you also saying that you CAN successfully
complete the second course of action in my previous post (i.e you can see
the contents of the CD when you use the DIR command in Real Mode DOS)?
So hold fire (for the moment) and clarify the above before you re-install
WinMe!!
Mart
"bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3818E0F3-DC7C-40F6-803F-EC99788032B3@microsoft.com...
> Again thks to Mart & Corday for the time.
> History- i know just enough to be dangerous.
> this system OEM had a problem 4 yrs ago where a Dell tech had me install
> win
> ME over itself where according to Noel Paton & Mike M created version
> soup.
> After some painstaking days & with use of Noel's procedure of reinstalling
> IE6, it purred like a kitten. I will say I've been getting some errors on
> occasion in the last year or so similar to those days, but nothing like
> what
> has happened with the cdrom in the last 2 weeks.
>
>>(well, quickest and easiest) solution
> with me as an operator may not be true
>
>>aspi2dos.sys was missing
> that is from on making a start up disk from add/remove dialog box
>
>>need to create a boot disk?
> after the original lockup due to the picture cd, thought it wasn't going
> to
> boot normally. took 60 sec between dell logo & windows.
>
>>then what were you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
> don't know, just stabbing for answers.
>
>> as in it didn't restore at all?,
> yes, once i booted & found cdrom not working thought to do a sys restore
> to
> an earlier date (2). sys restore told me not successful. should have
> created a date & tried from that, but me being a dummy installed the patch
> which lost all previous dates. After the patch created a date & sys
> restore
> worked.
>
>>clarify exactly which CD-ROM
> the original cdrom that came with the system is read only which has the
> problem. I tried to purchase from Dell a r/w to replace the read only
> after
> about 4 yrs ago. They didn't have a Dell replacement, so I bought a
> periphal
> usb connected with burner software (nero) No DVD on this system
>
>> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
> sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before the
> problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
>
>>then it won't show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you
>>re-booted (into Normal Mode)
> OK, i understand.
>
>>Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files) WinMe
>> installation.
> Any suggestions on procedures to do this?
>
>
>
>
> "Mart" wrote:
>
>> Bagger, on the face of it, I have to agree with Corday that clean install
>> of
>> WinMe may be your only (well, quickest and easiest) solution. It would
>> certainly appear that your CD-ROM is not faulty if suggestion #2 was
>> successful and that suggests the problem is therefore with your WinMe
>> installation.
>>
>> However .... several things that you've mentioned in the thread ring
>> little alarm bells.
>>
>> You started by implying the link to aspi2dos.sys was missing - in itself
>> is
>> no biggie, just a little unusual but does raise the question why. This
>> leads to another question in my mind, why did you feel the need to create
>> a
>> boot disk? - OK, you had a problem with the CD (and CD-ROM) but if you
>> weren't aware of suggestion #2 (which I assume you weren't) then what
>> were
>> you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
>>
>> Then you pointed out that scanreg /restore was unsuccessful (and latest
>> cab.file not started??) - as in it didn't restore at all?, or just didn't
>> fix the problem? You didn't make that too clear (to me).
>>
>> But then you confuse us with talk of an external cd burner. So please
>> clarify exactly which CD-ROM you are having problems with.
>>
>> Then finally(ish) you say that you tried (several?) KB article fixes
>> which
>> makes me wonder if some of your system files have (since?) become
>> damaged -
>> and now with all those little alarm bells ringing, that's where I start
>> to
>> agree with Corday's solution.
>>
>> But perhaps a little more interesting is in your last reply re:
>> suggestion#2, when you said :-
>>
>> > this worked, but had to manually open & close the disc door.
>>
>> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel? How did you expect
>> to
>> open & close it when you were in Real Mode DOS - WinMe would not even
>> have
>> been loaded so how else would you open & close it?
>>
>> and then :-
>>
>> > Also, the cdrom does not show in the device mgr
>> > in the safe mode after performing #1.
>>
>> Well as you'd previously "Removed" it in the first part of #1, then it
>> won't
>> show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you re-booted (into
>> Normal Mode)
>>
>> Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files)
>> WinMe
>> installation.
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>>
>> "Corday" <10Swinner@net.net> wrote in message
>> news:88CF19E0-CD8A-48B8-B4D5-E82D2012DDDF@microsoft.com...
>> > NEC made most of the DVD stuff for Dell back in "the day". You might
>> > try
>> > their website. Hate to say the obvious, but a clean Windows ME
>> > reinstall
>> > might be inorder.
>> > --
>> > I mastered Wordstar graphics!
>> >
>> >
>> > "bagger" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thks, Mart, really appreciate the help.
>> >>
>> >> > 1.
>> >> didn't work.
>> >>
>> >> >2. If 1 is not successful,
>> >> this worked,
>> >>
>> >> but had to manually open & close the disc door. Also,the cdrom does
>> >> not
>> >> show in the device mgr in the safe mode after performing #1.
>> >> Again, from my original post, this all started when trying to read a
>> >> picture
>> >> disc in my cdrom. Later that disc was checked for viruses in my
>> >> external
>> >> burner attached to my system. My sys is a Dell 4100 (8 yrs old) also
>> >> when
>> >> booting either normally or safe mode, it takes 60 sec between the Dell
>> >> logo &
>> >> Windows logo which never happened before. Also, lost the sys restore
>> >> function which had to do a repatch to get to work again, but lost all
>> >> previous restore dates. I've tried all sorts of diagnostics on the
>> >> system
>> >> per kb articles.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Mart" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
>> >> >
>> >> > Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
>> >> >
>> >> > That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
>> >> >
>> >> > You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
>> >> >
>> >> > Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't loaded in
>> >> > Safe
>> >> > Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows Explorer
>> >> > etc., it
>> >> > will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over' from
>> >> > previous
>> >> > 'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
>> >> >
>> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
>> >> >
>> >> > Two suggested courses of action :-
>> >> > 1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and
>> >> > controllers)
>> >> > then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install it/them.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM. Therefore
>> >> > Boot
>> >> > using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support
>> >> > option.
>> >> > If all
>> >> > boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to your
>> >> > CD-ROM
>> >> > (e.g. D
and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the Help>> >> > Page) try
>> >> > inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
>> >> > (e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
>> >> >
>> >> > The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
>> >> >
>> >> > If so, then that's a good start.
>> >> >
>> >> > Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
>> >> >
>> >> > You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
>> >> >
>> >> > If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be
>> >> > working
>> >> > and
>> >> > WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
>> >> >
>> >> > Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the thread, I
>> >> > just
>> >> > wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about". Let us
>> >> > know
>> >> > how
>> >> > you get on.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mart
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
>> >> > > OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in the
>> >> > > device
>> >> > > manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
>> >> > > performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the
>> >> > > bios
>> >> > > version
>> >> > > line.
>> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
>> >> > > Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however
>> >> > > lost
>> >> > > all
>> >> > > previous dates were lost which is understandable.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Corday" wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
>> >> > >> Corday
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> "bagger" wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first
>> >> > >> > thought.
>> >> > >> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system
>> >> > >> > locked
>> >> > >> > up.
>> >> > >> > the
>> >> > >> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in
>> >> > >> > the
>> >> > >> > device
>> >> > >> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag
>> >> > >> > all OK.
>> >> > >> > Did a
>> >> > >> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys
>> >> > >> > restore,
>> >> > >> > was
>> >> > >> > not
>> >> > >> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but
>> >> > >> > does.
>> >> > >> > printer,
>> >> > >> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > "Mike M" wrote:
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > > It sounds very much as if your system's registry isn't
>> >> > >> > > pointing
>> >> > >> > > at
>> >> > >> > > the
>> >> > >> > > correct location for the Win Me cab files (setup files),
>> >> > >> > > normally
>> >> > >> > > either
>> >> > >> > > C:\Windows\Options\Install or C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. All
>> >> > >> > > of
>> >> > >> > > the
>> >> > >> > > files
>> >> > >> > > required for the start-up disk should also be present in the
>> >> > >> > > folder
>> >> > >> > > C:\Windows\Command\EBD however the wizard used fro creating a
>> >> > >> > > start-up
>> >> > >> > > disk uses files from the cab set rather than the EBD folder.
>> >> > >> > > Try
>> >> > >> > > looking
>> >> > >> > > for the file BASE2.CAB and then when making a start-up disk
>> >> > >> > > point it
>> >> > >> > > towards the folder containing BASE2.CAB when it asks for a
>> >> > >> > > missing
>> >> > >> > > file.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > > >wizard doesn't allow me to change paths.
>> >> > >> > > Finally, if you are still unable to create a start-up disk
>> >> > >> > > you
>> >> > >> > > can
>> >> > >> > > download the image of a Win Me boot disk from
>> >> > >> > > www.bootdisk.com.
>> >> > >> > > Download
>> >> > >> > > the OEM version and then run the downloaded file and follow
>> >> > >> > > the
>> >> > >> > > prompts
>> >> > >> > > which should then create a boot floppy. Don't simply copy
>> >> > >> > > the
>> >> > >> > > downloaded
>> >> > >> > > file to a floppy, this won't create a bootable floppy.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > >> was able to create a disk from this site
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > Incidentally I can't help but wonder the meaning of your
>> >> > >> > > subject
>> >> > >> > > line
>> >> > >> > > "Start up disk-me ie sp1" since IE6 SP1 has nothing as such
>> >> > >> > > to
>> >> > >> > > do
>> >> > >> > > with the
>> >> > >> > > start-up disk.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > > > means nothing, only that i'm in the right support group.
>> >> > >> > > Mike Maltby
>> >> > >> > > mike.maltby@gmail.com
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > bagger <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > > trying to make start up disk, get the following error "the
>> >> > >> > > > file
>> >> > >> > > > aspi2dos.sys was not found". any help appreciated.
>> >> > >> > > > tia
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>
>>
>>
B
bagger
Guest
Re: Start up disk-me ie sp1
>are you saying the tray won't open with the pb and you need to use the
hairpin technique?
yes, by checking the 2nd time.
>the contents of the CD when you use the DIR command in Real Mode DOS)?
Ah, a closer look, doesn't show the contents of the cd, but the directory of
some system files.
also, booting with cdrom support before the A: prompt, the following messages;
The diagnostic tools were successfullyloaded to drive D.
Device driver not found 'MSCD001'
No valid CDROM device drivers selected
There may be a problem with your CD-ROM
Vol in drive D is MS-RAMDRIVE
>So hold fire (for the moment) and clarify the above before you re-install
> WinMe!!
I wouldn't do this until completely understanding the procedure.
"Mart" wrote:
> Hold fire!! - Is this the real clue?
>
> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
> > sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before the
> > problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
>
> Now this puts a completely different complexion on things.
>
> Please clarify further :-
> 1. When in Real DOS mode (i.e. booting from the start-up floppy) and with
> CD-ROM support, at the A:\> prompt, are you saying the tray won't open with
> the pb and you need to use the hairpin technique?
>
> If so, you certainly have a faulty mechanism with your CD-ROM and that issue
> alone is just cause for the need of a replacement CD-ROM
>
> However, please also clarify :-
> 2. If 1. above is true, are you also saying that you CAN successfully
> complete the second course of action in my previous post (i.e you can see
> the contents of the CD when you use the DIR command in Real Mode DOS)?
>
> So hold fire (for the moment) and clarify the above before you re-install
> WinMe!!
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3818E0F3-DC7C-40F6-803F-EC99788032B3@microsoft.com...
> > Again thks to Mart & Corday for the time.
> > History- i know just enough to be dangerous.
> > this system OEM had a problem 4 yrs ago where a Dell tech had me install
> > win
> > ME over itself where according to Noel Paton & Mike M created version
> > soup.
> > After some painstaking days & with use of Noel's procedure of reinstalling
> > IE6, it purred like a kitten. I will say I've been getting some errors on
> > occasion in the last year or so similar to those days, but nothing like
> > what
> > has happened with the cdrom in the last 2 weeks.
> >
> >>(well, quickest and easiest) solution
> > with me as an operator may not be true
> >
> >>aspi2dos.sys was missing
> > that is from on making a start up disk from add/remove dialog box
> >
> >>need to create a boot disk?
> > after the original lockup due to the picture cd, thought it wasn't going
> > to
> > boot normally. took 60 sec between dell logo & windows.
> >
> >>then what were you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
> > don't know, just stabbing for answers.
> >
> >> as in it didn't restore at all?,
> > yes, once i booted & found cdrom not working thought to do a sys restore
> > to
> > an earlier date (2). sys restore told me not successful. should have
> > created a date & tried from that, but me being a dummy installed the patch
> > which lost all previous dates. After the patch created a date & sys
> > restore
> > worked.
> >
> >>clarify exactly which CD-ROM
> > the original cdrom that came with the system is read only which has the
> > problem. I tried to purchase from Dell a r/w to replace the read only
> > after
> > about 4 yrs ago. They didn't have a Dell replacement, so I bought a
> > periphal
> > usb connected with burner software (nero) No DVD on this system
> >
> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
> > sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before the
> > problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
> >
> >>then it won't show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you
> >>re-booted (into Normal Mode)
> > OK, i understand.
> >
> >>Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files) WinMe
> >> installation.
> > Any suggestions on procedures to do this?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mart" wrote:
> >
> >> Bagger, on the face of it, I have to agree with Corday that clean install
> >> of
> >> WinMe may be your only (well, quickest and easiest) solution. It would
> >> certainly appear that your CD-ROM is not faulty if suggestion #2 was
> >> successful and that suggests the problem is therefore with your WinMe
> >> installation.
> >>
> >> However .... several things that you've mentioned in the thread ring
> >> little alarm bells.
> >>
> >> You started by implying the link to aspi2dos.sys was missing - in itself
> >> is
> >> no biggie, just a little unusual but does raise the question why. This
> >> leads to another question in my mind, why did you feel the need to create
> >> a
> >> boot disk? - OK, you had a problem with the CD (and CD-ROM) but if you
> >> weren't aware of suggestion #2 (which I assume you weren't) then what
> >> were
> >> you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
> >>
> >> Then you pointed out that scanreg /restore was unsuccessful (and latest
> >> cab.file not started??) - as in it didn't restore at all?, or just didn't
> >> fix the problem? You didn't make that too clear (to me).
> >>
> >> But then you confuse us with talk of an external cd burner. So please
> >> clarify exactly which CD-ROM you are having problems with.
> >>
> >> Then finally(ish) you say that you tried (several?) KB article fixes
> >> which
> >> makes me wonder if some of your system files have (since?) become
> >> damaged -
> >> and now with all those little alarm bells ringing, that's where I start
> >> to
> >> agree with Corday's solution.
> >>
> >> But perhaps a little more interesting is in your last reply re:
> >> suggestion#2, when you said :-
> >>
> >> > this worked, but had to manually open & close the disc door.
> >>
> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel? How did you expect
> >> to
> >> open & close it when you were in Real Mode DOS - WinMe would not even
> >> have
> >> been loaded so how else would you open & close it?
> >>
> >> and then :-
> >>
> >> > Also, the cdrom does not show in the device mgr
> >> > in the safe mode after performing #1.
> >>
> >> Well as you'd previously "Removed" it in the first part of #1, then it
> >> won't
> >> show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you re-booted (into
> >> Normal Mode)
> >>
> >> Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files)
> >> WinMe
> >> installation.
> >>
> >> Mart
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Corday" <10Swinner@net.net> wrote in message
> >> news:88CF19E0-CD8A-48B8-B4D5-E82D2012DDDF@microsoft.com...
> >> > NEC made most of the DVD stuff for Dell back in "the day". You might
> >> > try
> >> > their website. Hate to say the obvious, but a clean Windows ME
> >> > reinstall
> >> > might be inorder.
> >> > --
> >> > I mastered Wordstar graphics!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "bagger" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Thks, Mart, really appreciate the help.
> >> >>
> >> >> > 1.
> >> >> didn't work.
> >> >>
> >> >> >2. If 1 is not successful,
> >> >> this worked,
> >> >>
> >> >> but had to manually open & close the disc door. Also,the cdrom does
> >> >> not
> >> >> show in the device mgr in the safe mode after performing #1.
> >> >> Again, from my original post, this all started when trying to read a
> >> >> picture
> >> >> disc in my cdrom. Later that disc was checked for viruses in my
> >> >> external
> >> >> burner attached to my system. My sys is a Dell 4100 (8 yrs old) also
> >> >> when
> >> >> booting either normally or safe mode, it takes 60 sec between the Dell
> >> >> logo &
> >> >> Windows logo which never happened before. Also, lost the sys restore
> >> >> function which had to do a repatch to get to work again, but lost all
> >> >> previous restore dates. I've tried all sorts of diagnostics on the
> >> >> system
> >> >> per kb articles.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Mart" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't loaded in
> >> >> > Safe
> >> >> > Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows Explorer
> >> >> > etc., it
> >> >> > will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over' from
> >> >> > previous
> >> >> > 'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Two suggested courses of action :-
> >> >> > 1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and
> >> >> > controllers)
> >> >> > then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install it/them.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM. Therefore
> >> >> > Boot
> >> >> > using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support
> >> >> > option.
> >> >> > If all
> >> >> > boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to your
> >> >> > CD-ROM
> >> >> > (e.g. D and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the Help
> >> >> > Page) try
> >> >> > inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
> >> >> > (e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If so, then that's a good start.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be
> >> >> > working
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the thread, I
> >> >> > just
> >> >> > wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about". Let us
> >> >> > know
> >> >> > how
> >> >> > you get on.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mart
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > > OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in the
> >> >> > > device
> >> >> > > manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
> >> >> > > performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the
> >> >> > > bios
> >> >> > > version
> >> >> > > line.
> >> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> >> >> > > Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however
> >> >> > > lost
> >> >> > > all
> >> >> > > previous dates were lost which is understandable.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "Corday" wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
> >> >> > >> Corday
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> "bagger" wrote:
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first
> >> >> > >> > thought.
> >> >> > >> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system
> >> >> > >> > locked
> >> >> > >> > up.
> >> >> > >> > the
> >> >> > >> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in
> >> >> > >> > the
> >> >> > >> > device
> >> >> > >> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag
> >> >> > >> > all OK.
> >> >> > >> > Did a
> >> >> > >> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys
> >> >> > >> > restore,
> >> >> > >> > was
> >> >> > >> > not
> >> >> > >> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but
> >> >> > >> > does.
> >> >> > >> > printer,
> >> >> > >> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > "Mike M" wrote:
>are you saying the tray won't open with the pb and you need to use the
hairpin technique?
yes, by checking the 2nd time.
>the contents of the CD when you use the DIR command in Real Mode DOS)?
Ah, a closer look, doesn't show the contents of the cd, but the directory of
some system files.
also, booting with cdrom support before the A: prompt, the following messages;
The diagnostic tools were successfullyloaded to drive D.
Device driver not found 'MSCD001'
No valid CDROM device drivers selected
There may be a problem with your CD-ROM
Vol in drive D is MS-RAMDRIVE
>So hold fire (for the moment) and clarify the above before you re-install
> WinMe!!
I wouldn't do this until completely understanding the procedure.
"Mart" wrote:
> Hold fire!! - Is this the real clue?
>
> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
> > sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before the
> > problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
>
> Now this puts a completely different complexion on things.
>
> Please clarify further :-
> 1. When in Real DOS mode (i.e. booting from the start-up floppy) and with
> CD-ROM support, at the A:\> prompt, are you saying the tray won't open with
> the pb and you need to use the hairpin technique?
>
> If so, you certainly have a faulty mechanism with your CD-ROM and that issue
> alone is just cause for the need of a replacement CD-ROM
>
> However, please also clarify :-
> 2. If 1. above is true, are you also saying that you CAN successfully
> complete the second course of action in my previous post (i.e you can see
> the contents of the CD when you use the DIR command in Real Mode DOS)?
>
> So hold fire (for the moment) and clarify the above before you re-install
> WinMe!!
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3818E0F3-DC7C-40F6-803F-EC99788032B3@microsoft.com...
> > Again thks to Mart & Corday for the time.
> > History- i know just enough to be dangerous.
> > this system OEM had a problem 4 yrs ago where a Dell tech had me install
> > win
> > ME over itself where according to Noel Paton & Mike M created version
> > soup.
> > After some painstaking days & with use of Noel's procedure of reinstalling
> > IE6, it purred like a kitten. I will say I've been getting some errors on
> > occasion in the last year or so similar to those days, but nothing like
> > what
> > has happened with the cdrom in the last 2 weeks.
> >
> >>(well, quickest and easiest) solution
> > with me as an operator may not be true
> >
> >>aspi2dos.sys was missing
> > that is from on making a start up disk from add/remove dialog box
> >
> >>need to create a boot disk?
> > after the original lockup due to the picture cd, thought it wasn't going
> > to
> > boot normally. took 60 sec between dell logo & windows.
> >
> >>then what were you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
> > don't know, just stabbing for answers.
> >
> >> as in it didn't restore at all?,
> > yes, once i booted & found cdrom not working thought to do a sys restore
> > to
> > an earlier date (2). sys restore told me not successful. should have
> > created a date & tried from that, but me being a dummy installed the patch
> > which lost all previous dates. After the patch created a date & sys
> > restore
> > worked.
> >
> >>clarify exactly which CD-ROM
> > the original cdrom that came with the system is read only which has the
> > problem. I tried to purchase from Dell a r/w to replace the read only
> > after
> > about 4 yrs ago. They didn't have a Dell replacement, so I bought a
> > periphal
> > usb connected with burner software (nero) No DVD on this system
> >
> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
> > sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before the
> > problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
> >
> >>then it won't show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you
> >>re-booted (into Normal Mode)
> > OK, i understand.
> >
> >>Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files) WinMe
> >> installation.
> > Any suggestions on procedures to do this?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mart" wrote:
> >
> >> Bagger, on the face of it, I have to agree with Corday that clean install
> >> of
> >> WinMe may be your only (well, quickest and easiest) solution. It would
> >> certainly appear that your CD-ROM is not faulty if suggestion #2 was
> >> successful and that suggests the problem is therefore with your WinMe
> >> installation.
> >>
> >> However .... several things that you've mentioned in the thread ring
> >> little alarm bells.
> >>
> >> You started by implying the link to aspi2dos.sys was missing - in itself
> >> is
> >> no biggie, just a little unusual but does raise the question why. This
> >> leads to another question in my mind, why did you feel the need to create
> >> a
> >> boot disk? - OK, you had a problem with the CD (and CD-ROM) but if you
> >> weren't aware of suggestion #2 (which I assume you weren't) then what
> >> were
> >> you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
> >>
> >> Then you pointed out that scanreg /restore was unsuccessful (and latest
> >> cab.file not started??) - as in it didn't restore at all?, or just didn't
> >> fix the problem? You didn't make that too clear (to me).
> >>
> >> But then you confuse us with talk of an external cd burner. So please
> >> clarify exactly which CD-ROM you are having problems with.
> >>
> >> Then finally(ish) you say that you tried (several?) KB article fixes
> >> which
> >> makes me wonder if some of your system files have (since?) become
> >> damaged -
> >> and now with all those little alarm bells ringing, that's where I start
> >> to
> >> agree with Corday's solution.
> >>
> >> But perhaps a little more interesting is in your last reply re:
> >> suggestion#2, when you said :-
> >>
> >> > this worked, but had to manually open & close the disc door.
> >>
> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel? How did you expect
> >> to
> >> open & close it when you were in Real Mode DOS - WinMe would not even
> >> have
> >> been loaded so how else would you open & close it?
> >>
> >> and then :-
> >>
> >> > Also, the cdrom does not show in the device mgr
> >> > in the safe mode after performing #1.
> >>
> >> Well as you'd previously "Removed" it in the first part of #1, then it
> >> won't
> >> show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you re-booted (into
> >> Normal Mode)
> >>
> >> Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files)
> >> WinMe
> >> installation.
> >>
> >> Mart
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Corday" <10Swinner@net.net> wrote in message
> >> news:88CF19E0-CD8A-48B8-B4D5-E82D2012DDDF@microsoft.com...
> >> > NEC made most of the DVD stuff for Dell back in "the day". You might
> >> > try
> >> > their website. Hate to say the obvious, but a clean Windows ME
> >> > reinstall
> >> > might be inorder.
> >> > --
> >> > I mastered Wordstar graphics!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "bagger" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Thks, Mart, really appreciate the help.
> >> >>
> >> >> > 1.
> >> >> didn't work.
> >> >>
> >> >> >2. If 1 is not successful,
> >> >> this worked,
> >> >>
> >> >> but had to manually open & close the disc door. Also,the cdrom does
> >> >> not
> >> >> show in the device mgr in the safe mode after performing #1.
> >> >> Again, from my original post, this all started when trying to read a
> >> >> picture
> >> >> disc in my cdrom. Later that disc was checked for viruses in my
> >> >> external
> >> >> burner attached to my system. My sys is a Dell 4100 (8 yrs old) also
> >> >> when
> >> >> booting either normally or safe mode, it takes 60 sec between the Dell
> >> >> logo &
> >> >> Windows logo which never happened before. Also, lost the sys restore
> >> >> function which had to do a repatch to get to work again, but lost all
> >> >> previous restore dates. I've tried all sorts of diagnostics on the
> >> >> system
> >> >> per kb articles.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Mart" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't loaded in
> >> >> > Safe
> >> >> > Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows Explorer
> >> >> > etc., it
> >> >> > will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over' from
> >> >> > previous
> >> >> > 'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Two suggested courses of action :-
> >> >> > 1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and
> >> >> > controllers)
> >> >> > then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install it/them.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM. Therefore
> >> >> > Boot
> >> >> > using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support
> >> >> > option.
> >> >> > If all
> >> >> > boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to your
> >> >> > CD-ROM
> >> >> > (e.g. D
and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the Help> >> >> > Page) try
> >> >> > inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
> >> >> > (e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If so, then that's a good start.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be
> >> >> > working
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the thread, I
> >> >> > just
> >> >> > wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about". Let us
> >> >> > know
> >> >> > how
> >> >> > you get on.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mart
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > > OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in the
> >> >> > > device
> >> >> > > manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
> >> >> > > performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the
> >> >> > > bios
> >> >> > > version
> >> >> > > line.
> >> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> >> >> > > Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however
> >> >> > > lost
> >> >> > > all
> >> >> > > previous dates were lost which is understandable.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "Corday" wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
> >> >> > >> Corday
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> "bagger" wrote:
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first
> >> >> > >> > thought.
> >> >> > >> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system
> >> >> > >> > locked
> >> >> > >> > up.
> >> >> > >> > the
> >> >> > >> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in
> >> >> > >> > the
> >> >> > >> > device
> >> >> > >> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk, defrag
> >> >> > >> > all OK.
> >> >> > >> > Did a
> >> >> > >> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys
> >> >> > >> > restore,
> >> >> > >> > was
> >> >> > >> > not
> >> >> > >> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot but
> >> >> > >> > does.
> >> >> > >> > printer,
> >> >> > >> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > "Mike M" wrote:
M
Mart
Guest
Re: Start up disk-me ie sp1
Ah! - Progress!
So, you should now recheck Corday's initial advice :-
> Open case and check that all cables (between your CD-ROM and the
> motherboard) are in place and tight.
As things stand, your motherboard is not seeing your CD-ROM (so there's no
way that WinMe would!) So, if necessary, confirm that your CD-ROM is
'Enabled' in your BIOS - but I see no reason why this could have become
'Disabled' from what you have already described. So, sadly it sounds very
much like a dead CD-ROM - see final para. below.
Now to :-
> also, booting with cdrom support before the A: prompt, the following
> messages;
> The diagnostic tools were successfullyloaded to drive D.
> Device driver not found 'MSCD001'
> No valid CDROM device drivers selected
> There may be a problem with your CD-ROM
> Vol in drive D is MS-RAMDRIVE
This confirms the previous comments in that Real Mode DOS also does not see
the CD-ROM drive.
But be aware, the D: drive that you are seeing is the RAMDRIVE (an area in
RAM memory temporarily reserved (about 4MB of it, IIRC) by the startup disk
utility for 'workspace' to enable the various startup program utilities to
operate in) No operations (at this point in time) take place on your C:
drive so the only place left is the little bit of reserved RAM.
In fact, had your CD-ROM been working, those 'boot messages' would have
advised you that the CD-ROM would probably have been designated E: (not D:
as I had given as an *example* - my bad!)
So, next step is obtain a new replacement CD-ROM (you may as well buy a
burner - even a DVD burner (and associated software) as they are not very
much dearer than a CD-ROM drive. Then remove the old and fit the new. Not a
particularly difficult DIY task.
Good luck
Mart
"bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0ABB33DB-B522-4F4B-899A-381E76BDB8F9@microsoft.com...
> >are you saying the tray won't open with the pb and you need to use the
> hairpin technique?
>
> yes, by checking the 2nd time.
>
>>the contents of the CD when you use the DIR command in Real Mode DOS)?
>
> Ah, a closer look, doesn't show the contents of the cd, but the directory
> of
> some system files.
> also, booting with cdrom support before the A: prompt, the following
> messages;
> The diagnostic tools were successfullyloaded to drive D.
> Device driver not found 'MSCD001'
> No valid CDROM device drivers selected
> There may be a problem with your CD-ROM
> Vol in drive D is MS-RAMDRIVE
>
>>So hold fire (for the moment) and clarify the above before you re-install
>> WinMe!!
>
> I wouldn't do this until completely understanding the procedure.
>
>
>
>
> "Mart" wrote:
>
>> Hold fire!! - Is this the real clue?
>>
>> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
>> > sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before the
>> > problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
>>
>> Now this puts a completely different complexion on things.
>>
>> Please clarify further :-
>> 1. When in Real DOS mode (i.e. booting from the start-up floppy) and with
>> CD-ROM support, at the A:\> prompt, are you saying the tray won't open
>> with
>> the pb and you need to use the hairpin technique?
>>
>> If so, you certainly have a faulty mechanism with your CD-ROM and that
>> issue
>> alone is just cause for the need of a replacement CD-ROM
>>
>> However, please also clarify :-
>> 2. If 1. above is true, are you also saying that you CAN successfully
>> complete the second course of action in my previous post (i.e you can see
>> the contents of the CD when you use the DIR command in Real Mode DOS)?
>>
>> So hold fire (for the moment) and clarify the above before you re-install
>> WinMe!!
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>>
>> "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3818E0F3-DC7C-40F6-803F-EC99788032B3@microsoft.com...
>> > Again thks to Mart & Corday for the time.
>> > History- i know just enough to be dangerous.
>> > this system OEM had a problem 4 yrs ago where a Dell tech had me
>> > install
>> > win
>> > ME over itself where according to Noel Paton & Mike M created version
>> > soup.
>> > After some painstaking days & with use of Noel's procedure of
>> > reinstalling
>> > IE6, it purred like a kitten. I will say I've been getting some errors
>> > on
>> > occasion in the last year or so similar to those days, but nothing like
>> > what
>> > has happened with the cdrom in the last 2 weeks.
>> >
>> >>(well, quickest and easiest) solution
>> > with me as an operator may not be true
>> >
>> >>aspi2dos.sys was missing
>> > that is from on making a start up disk from add/remove dialog box
>> >
>> >>need to create a boot disk?
>> > after the original lockup due to the picture cd, thought it wasn't
>> > going
>> > to
>> > boot normally. took 60 sec between dell logo & windows.
>> >
>> >>then what were you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
>> > don't know, just stabbing for answers.
>> >
>> >> as in it didn't restore at all?,
>> > yes, once i booted & found cdrom not working thought to do a sys
>> > restore
>> > to
>> > an earlier date (2). sys restore told me not successful. should have
>> > created a date & tried from that, but me being a dummy installed the
>> > patch
>> > which lost all previous dates. After the patch created a date & sys
>> > restore
>> > worked.
>> >
>> >>clarify exactly which CD-ROM
>> > the original cdrom that came with the system is read only which has the
>> > problem. I tried to purchase from Dell a r/w to replace the read only
>> > after
>> > about 4 yrs ago. They didn't have a Dell replacement, so I bought a
>> > periphal
>> > usb connected with burner software (nero) No DVD on this system
>> >
>> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
>> > sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before the
>> > problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
>> >
>> >>then it won't show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you
>> >>re-booted (into Normal Mode)
>> > OK, i understand.
>> >
>> >>Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files)
>> >>WinMe
>> >> installation.
>> > Any suggestions on procedures to do this?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mart" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Bagger, on the face of it, I have to agree with Corday that clean
>> >> install
>> >> of
>> >> WinMe may be your only (well, quickest and easiest) solution. It would
>> >> certainly appear that your CD-ROM is not faulty if suggestion #2 was
>> >> successful and that suggests the problem is therefore with your WinMe
>> >> installation.
>> >>
>> >> However .... several things that you've mentioned in the thread ring
>> >> little alarm bells.
>> >>
>> >> You started by implying the link to aspi2dos.sys was missing - in
>> >> itself
>> >> is
>> >> no biggie, just a little unusual but does raise the question why.
>> >> This
>> >> leads to another question in my mind, why did you feel the need to
>> >> create
>> >> a
>> >> boot disk? - OK, you had a problem with the CD (and CD-ROM) but if you
>> >> weren't aware of suggestion #2 (which I assume you weren't) then what
>> >> were
>> >> you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
>> >>
>> >> Then you pointed out that scanreg /restore was unsuccessful (and
>> >> latest
>> >> cab.file not started??) - as in it didn't restore at all?, or just
>> >> didn't
>> >> fix the problem? You didn't make that too clear (to me).
>> >>
>> >> But then you confuse us with talk of an external cd burner. So please
>> >> clarify exactly which CD-ROM you are having problems with.
>> >>
>> >> Then finally(ish) you say that you tried (several?) KB article fixes
>> >> which
>> >> makes me wonder if some of your system files have (since?) become
>> >> damaged -
>> >> and now with all those little alarm bells ringing, that's where I
>> >> start
>> >> to
>> >> agree with Corday's solution.
>> >>
>> >> But perhaps a little more interesting is in your last reply re:
>> >> suggestion#2, when you said :-
>> >>
>> >> > this worked, but had to manually open & close the disc door.
>> >>
>> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel? How did you
>> >> expect
>> >> to
>> >> open & close it when you were in Real Mode DOS - WinMe would not even
>> >> have
>> >> been loaded so how else would you open & close it?
>> >>
>> >> and then :-
>> >>
>> >> > Also, the cdrom does not show in the device mgr
>> >> > in the safe mode after performing #1.
>> >>
>> >> Well as you'd previously "Removed" it in the first part of #1, then it
>> >> won't
>> >> show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you re-booted (into
>> >> Normal Mode)
>> >>
>> >> Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files)
>> >> WinMe
>> >> installation.
>> >>
>> >> Mart
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Corday" <10Swinner@net.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:88CF19E0-CD8A-48B8-B4D5-E82D2012DDDF@microsoft.com...
>> >> > NEC made most of the DVD stuff for Dell back in "the day". You might
>> >> > try
>> >> > their website. Hate to say the obvious, but a clean Windows ME
>> >> > reinstall
>> >> > might be inorder.
>> >> > --
>> >> > I mastered Wordstar graphics!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "bagger" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Thks, Mart, really appreciate the help.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > 1.
>> >> >> didn't work.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >2. If 1 is not successful,
>> >> >> this worked,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> but had to manually open & close the disc door. Also,the cdrom
>> >> >> does
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> show in the device mgr in the safe mode after performing #1.
>> >> >> Again, from my original post, this all started when trying to read
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> picture
>> >> >> disc in my cdrom. Later that disc was checked for viruses in my
>> >> >> external
>> >> >> burner attached to my system. My sys is a Dell 4100 (8 yrs old)
>> >> >> also
>> >> >> when
>> >> >> booting either normally or safe mode, it takes 60 sec between the
>> >> >> Dell
>> >> >> logo &
>> >> >> Windows logo which never happened before. Also, lost the sys
>> >> >> restore
>> >> >> function which had to do a repatch to get to work again, but lost
>> >> >> all
>> >> >> previous restore dates. I've tried all sorts of diagnostics on the
>> >> >> system
>> >> >> per kb articles.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Mart" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't loaded
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > Safe
>> >> >> > Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows
>> >> >> > Explorer
>> >> >> > etc., it
>> >> >> > will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over'
>> >> >> > from
>> >> >> > previous
>> >> >> > 'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Two suggested courses of action :-
>> >> >> > 1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and
>> >> >> > controllers)
>> >> >> > then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install
>> >> >> > it/them.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM.
>> >> >> > Therefore
>> >> >> > Boot
>> >> >> > using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support
>> >> >> > option.
>> >> >> > If all
>> >> >> > boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to
>> >> >> > your
>> >> >> > CD-ROM
>> >> >> > (e.g. D and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the
>> >> >> > Help
>> >> >> > Page) try
>> >> >> > inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
>> >> >> > (e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If so, then that's a good start.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be
>> >> >> > working
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the thread, I
>> >> >> > just
>> >> >> > wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about". Let
>> >> >> > us
>> >> >> > know
>> >> >> > how
>> >> >> > you get on.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Mart
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > > OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in
>> >> >> > > the
>> >> >> > > device
>> >> >> > > manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
>> >> >> > > performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the
>> >> >> > > bios
>> >> >> > > version
>> >> >> > > line.
>> >> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
>> >> >> > > Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however
>> >> >> > > lost
>> >> >> > > all
>> >> >> > > previous dates were lost which is understandable.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > "Corday" wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
>> >> >> > >> Corday
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> "bagger" wrote:
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first
>> >> >> > >> > thought.
>> >> >> > >> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system
>> >> >> > >> > locked
>> >> >> > >> > up.
>> >> >> > >> > the
>> >> >> > >> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in
>> >> >> > >> > the
>> >> >> > >> > device
>> >> >> > >> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk,
>> >> >> > >> > defrag
>> >> >> > >> > all OK.
>> >> >> > >> > Did a
>> >> >> > >> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys
>> >> >> > >> > restore,
>> >> >> > >> > was
>> >> >> > >> > not
>> >> >> > >> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot
>> >> >> > >> > but
>> >> >> > >> > does.
>> >> >> > >> > printer,
>> >> >> > >> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > "Mike M" wrote:
Ah! - Progress!
So, you should now recheck Corday's initial advice :-
> Open case and check that all cables (between your CD-ROM and the
> motherboard) are in place and tight.
As things stand, your motherboard is not seeing your CD-ROM (so there's no
way that WinMe would!) So, if necessary, confirm that your CD-ROM is
'Enabled' in your BIOS - but I see no reason why this could have become
'Disabled' from what you have already described. So, sadly it sounds very
much like a dead CD-ROM - see final para. below.
Now to :-
> also, booting with cdrom support before the A: prompt, the following
> messages;
> The diagnostic tools were successfullyloaded to drive D.
> Device driver not found 'MSCD001'
> No valid CDROM device drivers selected
> There may be a problem with your CD-ROM
> Vol in drive D is MS-RAMDRIVE
This confirms the previous comments in that Real Mode DOS also does not see
the CD-ROM drive.
But be aware, the D: drive that you are seeing is the RAMDRIVE (an area in
RAM memory temporarily reserved (about 4MB of it, IIRC) by the startup disk
utility for 'workspace' to enable the various startup program utilities to
operate in) No operations (at this point in time) take place on your C:
drive so the only place left is the little bit of reserved RAM.
In fact, had your CD-ROM been working, those 'boot messages' would have
advised you that the CD-ROM would probably have been designated E: (not D:
as I had given as an *example* - my bad!)
So, next step is obtain a new replacement CD-ROM (you may as well buy a
burner - even a DVD burner (and associated software) as they are not very
much dearer than a CD-ROM drive. Then remove the old and fit the new. Not a
particularly difficult DIY task.
Good luck
Mart
"bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0ABB33DB-B522-4F4B-899A-381E76BDB8F9@microsoft.com...
> >are you saying the tray won't open with the pb and you need to use the
> hairpin technique?
>
> yes, by checking the 2nd time.
>
>>the contents of the CD when you use the DIR command in Real Mode DOS)?
>
> Ah, a closer look, doesn't show the contents of the cd, but the directory
> of
> some system files.
> also, booting with cdrom support before the A: prompt, the following
> messages;
> The diagnostic tools were successfullyloaded to drive D.
> Device driver not found 'MSCD001'
> No valid CDROM device drivers selected
> There may be a problem with your CD-ROM
> Vol in drive D is MS-RAMDRIVE
>
>>So hold fire (for the moment) and clarify the above before you re-install
>> WinMe!!
>
> I wouldn't do this until completely understanding the procedure.
>
>
>
>
> "Mart" wrote:
>
>> Hold fire!! - Is this the real clue?
>>
>> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
>> > sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before the
>> > problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
>>
>> Now this puts a completely different complexion on things.
>>
>> Please clarify further :-
>> 1. When in Real DOS mode (i.e. booting from the start-up floppy) and with
>> CD-ROM support, at the A:\> prompt, are you saying the tray won't open
>> with
>> the pb and you need to use the hairpin technique?
>>
>> If so, you certainly have a faulty mechanism with your CD-ROM and that
>> issue
>> alone is just cause for the need of a replacement CD-ROM
>>
>> However, please also clarify :-
>> 2. If 1. above is true, are you also saying that you CAN successfully
>> complete the second course of action in my previous post (i.e you can see
>> the contents of the CD when you use the DIR command in Real Mode DOS)?
>>
>> So hold fire (for the moment) and clarify the above before you re-install
>> WinMe!!
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>>
>> "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3818E0F3-DC7C-40F6-803F-EC99788032B3@microsoft.com...
>> > Again thks to Mart & Corday for the time.
>> > History- i know just enough to be dangerous.
>> > this system OEM had a problem 4 yrs ago where a Dell tech had me
>> > install
>> > win
>> > ME over itself where according to Noel Paton & Mike M created version
>> > soup.
>> > After some painstaking days & with use of Noel's procedure of
>> > reinstalling
>> > IE6, it purred like a kitten. I will say I've been getting some errors
>> > on
>> > occasion in the last year or so similar to those days, but nothing like
>> > what
>> > has happened with the cdrom in the last 2 weeks.
>> >
>> >>(well, quickest and easiest) solution
>> > with me as an operator may not be true
>> >
>> >>aspi2dos.sys was missing
>> > that is from on making a start up disk from add/remove dialog box
>> >
>> >>need to create a boot disk?
>> > after the original lockup due to the picture cd, thought it wasn't
>> > going
>> > to
>> > boot normally. took 60 sec between dell logo & windows.
>> >
>> >>then what were you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
>> > don't know, just stabbing for answers.
>> >
>> >> as in it didn't restore at all?,
>> > yes, once i booted & found cdrom not working thought to do a sys
>> > restore
>> > to
>> > an earlier date (2). sys restore told me not successful. should have
>> > created a date & tried from that, but me being a dummy installed the
>> > patch
>> > which lost all previous dates. After the patch created a date & sys
>> > restore
>> > worked.
>> >
>> >>clarify exactly which CD-ROM
>> > the original cdrom that came with the system is read only which has the
>> > problem. I tried to purchase from Dell a r/w to replace the read only
>> > after
>> > about 4 yrs ago. They didn't have a Dell replacement, so I bought a
>> > periphal
>> > usb connected with burner software (nero) No DVD on this system
>> >
>> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
>> > sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before the
>> > problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
>> >
>> >>then it won't show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you
>> >>re-booted (into Normal Mode)
>> > OK, i understand.
>> >
>> >>Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files)
>> >>WinMe
>> >> installation.
>> > Any suggestions on procedures to do this?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mart" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Bagger, on the face of it, I have to agree with Corday that clean
>> >> install
>> >> of
>> >> WinMe may be your only (well, quickest and easiest) solution. It would
>> >> certainly appear that your CD-ROM is not faulty if suggestion #2 was
>> >> successful and that suggests the problem is therefore with your WinMe
>> >> installation.
>> >>
>> >> However .... several things that you've mentioned in the thread ring
>> >> little alarm bells.
>> >>
>> >> You started by implying the link to aspi2dos.sys was missing - in
>> >> itself
>> >> is
>> >> no biggie, just a little unusual but does raise the question why.
>> >> This
>> >> leads to another question in my mind, why did you feel the need to
>> >> create
>> >> a
>> >> boot disk? - OK, you had a problem with the CD (and CD-ROM) but if you
>> >> weren't aware of suggestion #2 (which I assume you weren't) then what
>> >> were
>> >> you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
>> >>
>> >> Then you pointed out that scanreg /restore was unsuccessful (and
>> >> latest
>> >> cab.file not started??) - as in it didn't restore at all?, or just
>> >> didn't
>> >> fix the problem? You didn't make that too clear (to me).
>> >>
>> >> But then you confuse us with talk of an external cd burner. So please
>> >> clarify exactly which CD-ROM you are having problems with.
>> >>
>> >> Then finally(ish) you say that you tried (several?) KB article fixes
>> >> which
>> >> makes me wonder if some of your system files have (since?) become
>> >> damaged -
>> >> and now with all those little alarm bells ringing, that's where I
>> >> start
>> >> to
>> >> agree with Corday's solution.
>> >>
>> >> But perhaps a little more interesting is in your last reply re:
>> >> suggestion#2, when you said :-
>> >>
>> >> > this worked, but had to manually open & close the disc door.
>> >>
>> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel? How did you
>> >> expect
>> >> to
>> >> open & close it when you were in Real Mode DOS - WinMe would not even
>> >> have
>> >> been loaded so how else would you open & close it?
>> >>
>> >> and then :-
>> >>
>> >> > Also, the cdrom does not show in the device mgr
>> >> > in the safe mode after performing #1.
>> >>
>> >> Well as you'd previously "Removed" it in the first part of #1, then it
>> >> won't
>> >> show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you re-booted (into
>> >> Normal Mode)
>> >>
>> >> Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files)
>> >> WinMe
>> >> installation.
>> >>
>> >> Mart
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Corday" <10Swinner@net.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:88CF19E0-CD8A-48B8-B4D5-E82D2012DDDF@microsoft.com...
>> >> > NEC made most of the DVD stuff for Dell back in "the day". You might
>> >> > try
>> >> > their website. Hate to say the obvious, but a clean Windows ME
>> >> > reinstall
>> >> > might be inorder.
>> >> > --
>> >> > I mastered Wordstar graphics!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "bagger" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Thks, Mart, really appreciate the help.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > 1.
>> >> >> didn't work.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >2. If 1 is not successful,
>> >> >> this worked,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> but had to manually open & close the disc door. Also,the cdrom
>> >> >> does
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> show in the device mgr in the safe mode after performing #1.
>> >> >> Again, from my original post, this all started when trying to read
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> picture
>> >> >> disc in my cdrom. Later that disc was checked for viruses in my
>> >> >> external
>> >> >> burner attached to my system. My sys is a Dell 4100 (8 yrs old)
>> >> >> also
>> >> >> when
>> >> >> booting either normally or safe mode, it takes 60 sec between the
>> >> >> Dell
>> >> >> logo &
>> >> >> Windows logo which never happened before. Also, lost the sys
>> >> >> restore
>> >> >> function which had to do a repatch to get to work again, but lost
>> >> >> all
>> >> >> previous restore dates. I've tried all sorts of diagnostics on the
>> >> >> system
>> >> >> per kb articles.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Mart" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't loaded
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > Safe
>> >> >> > Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows
>> >> >> > Explorer
>> >> >> > etc., it
>> >> >> > will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over'
>> >> >> > from
>> >> >> > previous
>> >> >> > 'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Two suggested courses of action :-
>> >> >> > 1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and
>> >> >> > controllers)
>> >> >> > then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install
>> >> >> > it/them.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM.
>> >> >> > Therefore
>> >> >> > Boot
>> >> >> > using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support
>> >> >> > option.
>> >> >> > If all
>> >> >> > boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to
>> >> >> > your
>> >> >> > CD-ROM
>> >> >> > (e.g. D
and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the >> >> >> > Help
>> >> >> > Page) try
>> >> >> > inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
>> >> >> > (e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If so, then that's a good start.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be
>> >> >> > working
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the thread, I
>> >> >> > just
>> >> >> > wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about". Let
>> >> >> > us
>> >> >> > know
>> >> >> > how
>> >> >> > you get on.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Mart
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > > OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in
>> >> >> > > the
>> >> >> > > device
>> >> >> > > manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
>> >> >> > > performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in the
>> >> >> > > bios
>> >> >> > > version
>> >> >> > > line.
>> >> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
>> >> >> > > Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function, however
>> >> >> > > lost
>> >> >> > > all
>> >> >> > > previous dates were lost which is understandable.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > "Corday" wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
>> >> >> > >> Corday
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> "bagger" wrote:
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first
>> >> >> > >> > thought.
>> >> >> > >> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the system
>> >> >> > >> > locked
>> >> >> > >> > up.
>> >> >> > >> > the
>> >> >> > >> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it in
>> >> >> > >> > the
>> >> >> > >> > device
>> >> >> > >> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk,
>> >> >> > >> > defrag
>> >> >> > >> > all OK.
>> >> >> > >> > Did a
>> >> >> > >> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys
>> >> >> > >> > restore,
>> >> >> > >> > was
>> >> >> > >> > not
>> >> >> > >> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot
>> >> >> > >> > but
>> >> >> > >> > does.
>> >> >> > >> > printer,
>> >> >> > >> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > "Mike M" wrote:
W
webster72n
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Re: Start up disk-me ie sp1
"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:%23a4qaVV$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Ah! - Progress!
>
> So, you should now recheck Corday's initial advice :-
> > Open case and check that all cables (between your CD-ROM and the
> > motherboard) are in place and tight.
>
> As things stand, your motherboard is not seeing your CD-ROM (so there's no
> way that WinMe would!) So, if necessary, confirm that your CD-ROM is
> 'Enabled' in your BIOS - but I see no reason why this could have become
> 'Disabled' from what you have already described. So, sadly it sounds very
> much like a dead CD-ROM - see final para. below.
>
> Now to :-
> > also, booting with cdrom support before the A: prompt, the following
> > messages;
> > The diagnostic tools were successfullyloaded to drive D.
> > Device driver not found 'MSCD001'
> > No valid CDROM device drivers selected
> > There may be a problem with your CD-ROM
> > Vol in drive D is MS-RAMDRIVE
>
> This confirms the previous comments in that Real Mode DOS also does not
see
> the CD-ROM drive.
>
> But be aware, the D: drive that you are seeing is the RAMDRIVE (an area in
> RAM memory temporarily reserved (about 4MB of it, IIRC) by the startup
disk
> utility for 'workspace' to enable the various startup program utilities to
> operate in) No operations (at this point in time) take place on your C:
> drive so the only place left is the little bit of reserved RAM.
>
> In fact, had your CD-ROM been working, those 'boot messages' would have
> advised you that the CD-ROM would probably have been designated E: (not D:
> as I had given as an *example* - my bad!)
>
> So, next step is obtain a new replacement CD-ROM (you may as well buy a
> burner - even a DVD burner (and associated software) as they are not very
> much dearer than a CD-ROM drive. Then remove the old and fit the new. Not
a
> particularly difficult DIY task.
Pardon me for butting in, Mart, but I seem to recall quite some time back
running into trouble when trying to install a new DVD drive. I didn't remove
the old drivers in device manager before removing the old CD-ROM. It is
important that one does so in order to avoid complications.
Can you verify?
Harry.
>
> Good luck
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0ABB33DB-B522-4F4B-899A-381E76BDB8F9@microsoft.com...
> > >are you saying the tray won't open with the pb and you need to use the
> > hairpin technique?
> >
> > yes, by checking the 2nd time.
> >
> >>the contents of the CD when you use the DIR command in Real Mode DOS)?
> >
> > Ah, a closer look, doesn't show the contents of the cd, but the
directory
> > of
> > some system files.
> > also, booting with cdrom support before the A: prompt, the following
> > messages;
> > The diagnostic tools were successfullyloaded to drive D.
> > Device driver not found 'MSCD001'
> > No valid CDROM device drivers selected
> > There may be a problem with your CD-ROM
> > Vol in drive D is MS-RAMDRIVE
> >
> >>So hold fire (for the moment) and clarify the above before you
re-install
> >> WinMe!!
> >
> > I wouldn't do this until completely understanding the procedure.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mart" wrote:
> >
> >> Hold fire!! - Is this the real clue?
> >>
> >> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
> >> > sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before
the
> >> > problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
> >>
> >> Now this puts a completely different complexion on things.
> >>
> >> Please clarify further :-
> >> 1. When in Real DOS mode (i.e. booting from the start-up floppy) and
with
> >> CD-ROM support, at the A:\> prompt, are you saying the tray won't open
> >> with
> >> the pb and you need to use the hairpin technique?
> >>
> >> If so, you certainly have a faulty mechanism with your CD-ROM and that
> >> issue
> >> alone is just cause for the need of a replacement CD-ROM
> >>
> >> However, please also clarify :-
> >> 2. If 1. above is true, are you also saying that you CAN successfully
> >> complete the second course of action in my previous post (i.e you can
see
> >> the contents of the CD when you use the DIR command in Real Mode DOS)?
> >>
> >> So hold fire (for the moment) and clarify the above before you
re-install
> >> WinMe!!
> >>
> >> Mart
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3818E0F3-DC7C-40F6-803F-EC99788032B3@microsoft.com...
> >> > Again thks to Mart & Corday for the time.
> >> > History- i know just enough to be dangerous.
> >> > this system OEM had a problem 4 yrs ago where a Dell tech had me
> >> > install
> >> > win
> >> > ME over itself where according to Noel Paton & Mike M created version
> >> > soup.
> >> > After some painstaking days & with use of Noel's procedure of
> >> > reinstalling
> >> > IE6, it purred like a kitten. I will say I've been getting some
errors
> >> > on
> >> > occasion in the last year or so similar to those days, but nothing
like
> >> > what
> >> > has happened with the cdrom in the last 2 weeks.
> >> >
> >> >>(well, quickest and easiest) solution
> >> > with me as an operator may not be true
> >> >
> >> >>aspi2dos.sys was missing
> >> > that is from on making a start up disk from add/remove dialog box
> >> >
> >> >>need to create a boot disk?
> >> > after the original lockup due to the picture cd, thought it wasn't
> >> > going
> >> > to
> >> > boot normally. took 60 sec between dell logo & windows.
> >> >
> >> >>then what were you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
> >> > don't know, just stabbing for answers.
> >> >
> >> >> as in it didn't restore at all?,
> >> > yes, once i booted & found cdrom not working thought to do a sys
> >> > restore
> >> > to
> >> > an earlier date (2). sys restore told me not successful. should
have
> >> > created a date & tried from that, but me being a dummy installed the
> >> > patch
> >> > which lost all previous dates. After the patch created a date & sys
> >> > restore
> >> > worked.
> >> >
> >> >>clarify exactly which CD-ROM
> >> > the original cdrom that came with the system is read only which has
the
> >> > problem. I tried to purchase from Dell a r/w to replace the read
only
> >> > after
> >> > about 4 yrs ago. They didn't have a Dell replacement, so I bought a
> >> > periphal
> >> > usb connected with burner software (nero) No DVD on this system
> >> >
> >> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
> >> > sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before
the
> >> > problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
> >> >
> >> >>then it won't show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you
> >> >>re-booted (into Normal Mode)
> >> > OK, i understand.
> >> >
> >> >>Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files)
> >> >>WinMe
> >> >> installation.
> >> > Any suggestions on procedures to do this?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Mart" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Bagger, on the face of it, I have to agree with Corday that clean
> >> >> install
> >> >> of
> >> >> WinMe may be your only (well, quickest and easiest) solution. It
would
> >> >> certainly appear that your CD-ROM is not faulty if suggestion #2 was
> >> >> successful and that suggests the problem is therefore with your
WinMe
> >> >> installation.
> >> >>
> >> >> However .... several things that you've mentioned in the thread
ring
> >> >> little alarm bells.
> >> >>
> >> >> You started by implying the link to aspi2dos.sys was missing - in
> >> >> itself
> >> >> is
> >> >> no biggie, just a little unusual but does raise the question why.
> >> >> This
> >> >> leads to another question in my mind, why did you feel the need to
> >> >> create
> >> >> a
> >> >> boot disk? - OK, you had a problem with the CD (and CD-ROM) but if
you
> >> >> weren't aware of suggestion #2 (which I assume you weren't) then
what
> >> >> were
> >> >> you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
> >> >>
> >> >> Then you pointed out that scanreg /restore was unsuccessful (and
> >> >> latest
> >> >> cab.file not started??) - as in it didn't restore at all?, or just
> >> >> didn't
> >> >> fix the problem? You didn't make that too clear (to me).
> >> >>
> >> >> But then you confuse us with talk of an external cd burner. So
please
> >> >> clarify exactly which CD-ROM you are having problems with.
> >> >>
> >> >> Then finally(ish) you say that you tried (several?) KB article fixes
> >> >> which
> >> >> makes me wonder if some of your system files have (since?) become
> >> >> damaged -
> >> >> and now with all those little alarm bells ringing, that's where I
> >> >> start
> >> >> to
> >> >> agree with Corday's solution.
> >> >>
> >> >> But perhaps a little more interesting is in your last reply re:
> >> >> suggestion#2, when you said :-
> >> >>
> >> >> > this worked, but had to manually open & close the disc door.
> >> >>
> >> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel? How did you
> >> >> expect
> >> >> to
> >> >> open & close it when you were in Real Mode DOS - WinMe would not
even
> >> >> have
> >> >> been loaded so how else would you open & close it?
> >> >>
> >> >> and then :-
> >> >>
> >> >> > Also, the cdrom does not show in the device mgr
> >> >> > in the safe mode after performing #1.
> >> >>
> >> >> Well as you'd previously "Removed" it in the first part of #1, then
it
> >> >> won't
> >> >> show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you re-booted
(into
> >> >> Normal Mode)
> >> >>
> >> >> Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files)
> >> >> WinMe
> >> >> installation.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mart
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Corday" <10Swinner@net.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:88CF19E0-CD8A-48B8-B4D5-E82D2012DDDF@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > NEC made most of the DVD stuff for Dell back in "the day". You
might
> >> >> > try
> >> >> > their website. Hate to say the obvious, but a clean Windows ME
> >> >> > reinstall
> >> >> > might be inorder.
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > I mastered Wordstar graphics!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "bagger" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Thks, Mart, really appreciate the help.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > 1.
> >> >> >> didn't work.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >2. If 1 is not successful,
> >> >> >> this worked,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> but had to manually open & close the disc door. Also,the cdrom
> >> >> >> does
> >> >> >> not
> >> >> >> show in the device mgr in the safe mode after performing #1.
> >> >> >> Again, from my original post, this all started when trying to
read
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> picture
> >> >> >> disc in my cdrom. Later that disc was checked for viruses in my
> >> >> >> external
> >> >> >> burner attached to my system. My sys is a Dell 4100 (8 yrs old)
> >> >> >> also
> >> >> >> when
> >> >> >> booting either normally or safe mode, it takes 60 sec between the
> >> >> >> Dell
> >> >> >> logo &
> >> >> >> Windows logo which never happened before. Also, lost the sys
> >> >> >> restore
> >> >> >> function which had to do a repatch to get to work again, but lost
> >> >> >> all
> >> >> >> previous restore dates. I've tried all sorts of diagnostics on
the
> >> >> >> system
> >> >> >> per kb articles.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Mart" wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't loaded
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> > Safe
> >> >> >> > Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows
> >> >> >> > Explorer
> >> >> >> > etc., it
> >> >> >> > will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over'
> >> >> >> > from
> >> >> >> > previous
> >> >> >> > 'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Two suggested courses of action :-
> >> >> >> > 1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and
> >> >> >> > controllers)
> >> >> >> > then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install
> >> >> >> > it/them.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > 2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM.
> >> >> >> > Therefore
> >> >> >> > Boot
> >> >> >> > using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support
> >> >> >> > option.
> >> >> >> > If all
> >> >> >> > boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to
> >> >> >> > your
> >> >> >> > CD-ROM
> >> >> >> > (e.g. D and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the
> >> >> >> > Help
> >> >> >> > Page) try
> >> >> >> > inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
> >> >> >> > (e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > If so, then that's a good start.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be
> >> >> >> > working
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the thread,
I
> >> >> >> > just
> >> >> >> > wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about". Let
> >> >> >> > us
> >> >> >> > know
> >> >> >> > how
> >> >> >> > you get on.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Mart
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > > OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in
> >> >> >> > > the
> >> >> >> > > device
> >> >> >> > > manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
> >> >> >> > > performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in
the
> >> >> >> > > bios
> >> >> >> > > version
> >> >> >> > > line.
> >> >> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> >> >> >> > > Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function,
however
> >> >> >> > > lost
> >> >> >> > > all
> >> >> >> > > previous dates were lost which is understandable.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > "Corday" wrote:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
> >> >> >> > >> Corday
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> "bagger" wrote:
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first
> >> >> >> > >> > thought.
> >> >> >> > >> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the
system
> >> >> >> > >> > locked
> >> >> >> > >> > up.
> >> >> >> > >> > the
> >> >> >> > >> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it
in
> >> >> >> > >> > the
> >> >> >> > >> > device
> >> >> >> > >> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk,
> >> >> >> > >> > defrag
> >> >> >> > >> > all OK.
> >> >> >> > >> > Did a
> >> >> >> > >> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys
> >> >> >> > >> > restore,
> >> >> >> > >> > was
> >> >> >> > >> > not
> >> >> >> > >> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot
> >> >> >> > >> > but
> >> >> >> > >> > does.
> >> >> >> > >> > printer,
> >> >> >> > >> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > "Mike M" wrote:
>
>
"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:%23a4qaVV$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Ah! - Progress!
>
> So, you should now recheck Corday's initial advice :-
> > Open case and check that all cables (between your CD-ROM and the
> > motherboard) are in place and tight.
>
> As things stand, your motherboard is not seeing your CD-ROM (so there's no
> way that WinMe would!) So, if necessary, confirm that your CD-ROM is
> 'Enabled' in your BIOS - but I see no reason why this could have become
> 'Disabled' from what you have already described. So, sadly it sounds very
> much like a dead CD-ROM - see final para. below.
>
> Now to :-
> > also, booting with cdrom support before the A: prompt, the following
> > messages;
> > The diagnostic tools were successfullyloaded to drive D.
> > Device driver not found 'MSCD001'
> > No valid CDROM device drivers selected
> > There may be a problem with your CD-ROM
> > Vol in drive D is MS-RAMDRIVE
>
> This confirms the previous comments in that Real Mode DOS also does not
see
> the CD-ROM drive.
>
> But be aware, the D: drive that you are seeing is the RAMDRIVE (an area in
> RAM memory temporarily reserved (about 4MB of it, IIRC) by the startup
disk
> utility for 'workspace' to enable the various startup program utilities to
> operate in) No operations (at this point in time) take place on your C:
> drive so the only place left is the little bit of reserved RAM.
>
> In fact, had your CD-ROM been working, those 'boot messages' would have
> advised you that the CD-ROM would probably have been designated E: (not D:
> as I had given as an *example* - my bad!)
>
> So, next step is obtain a new replacement CD-ROM (you may as well buy a
> burner - even a DVD burner (and associated software) as they are not very
> much dearer than a CD-ROM drive. Then remove the old and fit the new. Not
a
> particularly difficult DIY task.
Pardon me for butting in, Mart, but I seem to recall quite some time back
running into trouble when trying to install a new DVD drive. I didn't remove
the old drivers in device manager before removing the old CD-ROM. It is
important that one does so in order to avoid complications.
Can you verify?
Harry.
>
> Good luck
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0ABB33DB-B522-4F4B-899A-381E76BDB8F9@microsoft.com...
> > >are you saying the tray won't open with the pb and you need to use the
> > hairpin technique?
> >
> > yes, by checking the 2nd time.
> >
> >>the contents of the CD when you use the DIR command in Real Mode DOS)?
> >
> > Ah, a closer look, doesn't show the contents of the cd, but the
directory
> > of
> > some system files.
> > also, booting with cdrom support before the A: prompt, the following
> > messages;
> > The diagnostic tools were successfullyloaded to drive D.
> > Device driver not found 'MSCD001'
> > No valid CDROM device drivers selected
> > There may be a problem with your CD-ROM
> > Vol in drive D is MS-RAMDRIVE
> >
> >>So hold fire (for the moment) and clarify the above before you
re-install
> >> WinMe!!
> >
> > I wouldn't do this until completely understanding the procedure.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mart" wrote:
> >
> >> Hold fire!! - Is this the real clue?
> >>
> >> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
> >> > sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before
the
> >> > problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
> >>
> >> Now this puts a completely different complexion on things.
> >>
> >> Please clarify further :-
> >> 1. When in Real DOS mode (i.e. booting from the start-up floppy) and
with
> >> CD-ROM support, at the A:\> prompt, are you saying the tray won't open
> >> with
> >> the pb and you need to use the hairpin technique?
> >>
> >> If so, you certainly have a faulty mechanism with your CD-ROM and that
> >> issue
> >> alone is just cause for the need of a replacement CD-ROM
> >>
> >> However, please also clarify :-
> >> 2. If 1. above is true, are you also saying that you CAN successfully
> >> complete the second course of action in my previous post (i.e you can
see
> >> the contents of the CD when you use the DIR command in Real Mode DOS)?
> >>
> >> So hold fire (for the moment) and clarify the above before you
re-install
> >> WinMe!!
> >>
> >> Mart
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3818E0F3-DC7C-40F6-803F-EC99788032B3@microsoft.com...
> >> > Again thks to Mart & Corday for the time.
> >> > History- i know just enough to be dangerous.
> >> > this system OEM had a problem 4 yrs ago where a Dell tech had me
> >> > install
> >> > win
> >> > ME over itself where according to Noel Paton & Mike M created version
> >> > soup.
> >> > After some painstaking days & with use of Noel's procedure of
> >> > reinstalling
> >> > IE6, it purred like a kitten. I will say I've been getting some
errors
> >> > on
> >> > occasion in the last year or so similar to those days, but nothing
like
> >> > what
> >> > has happened with the cdrom in the last 2 weeks.
> >> >
> >> >>(well, quickest and easiest) solution
> >> > with me as an operator may not be true
> >> >
> >> >>aspi2dos.sys was missing
> >> > that is from on making a start up disk from add/remove dialog box
> >> >
> >> >>need to create a boot disk?
> >> > after the original lockup due to the picture cd, thought it wasn't
> >> > going
> >> > to
> >> > boot normally. took 60 sec between dell logo & windows.
> >> >
> >> >>then what were you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
> >> > don't know, just stabbing for answers.
> >> >
> >> >> as in it didn't restore at all?,
> >> > yes, once i booted & found cdrom not working thought to do a sys
> >> > restore
> >> > to
> >> > an earlier date (2). sys restore told me not successful. should
have
> >> > created a date & tried from that, but me being a dummy installed the
> >> > patch
> >> > which lost all previous dates. After the patch created a date & sys
> >> > restore
> >> > worked.
> >> >
> >> >>clarify exactly which CD-ROM
> >> > the original cdrom that came with the system is read only which has
the
> >> > problem. I tried to purchase from Dell a r/w to replace the read
only
> >> > after
> >> > about 4 yrs ago. They didn't have a Dell replacement, so I bought a
> >> > periphal
> >> > usb connected with burner software (nero) No DVD on this system
> >> >
> >> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
> >> > sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before
the
> >> > problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
> >> >
> >> >>then it won't show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you
> >> >>re-booted (into Normal Mode)
> >> > OK, i understand.
> >> >
> >> >>Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files)
> >> >>WinMe
> >> >> installation.
> >> > Any suggestions on procedures to do this?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Mart" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Bagger, on the face of it, I have to agree with Corday that clean
> >> >> install
> >> >> of
> >> >> WinMe may be your only (well, quickest and easiest) solution. It
would
> >> >> certainly appear that your CD-ROM is not faulty if suggestion #2 was
> >> >> successful and that suggests the problem is therefore with your
WinMe
> >> >> installation.
> >> >>
> >> >> However .... several things that you've mentioned in the thread
ring
> >> >> little alarm bells.
> >> >>
> >> >> You started by implying the link to aspi2dos.sys was missing - in
> >> >> itself
> >> >> is
> >> >> no biggie, just a little unusual but does raise the question why.
> >> >> This
> >> >> leads to another question in my mind, why did you feel the need to
> >> >> create
> >> >> a
> >> >> boot disk? - OK, you had a problem with the CD (and CD-ROM) but if
you
> >> >> weren't aware of suggestion #2 (which I assume you weren't) then
what
> >> >> were
> >> >> you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
> >> >>
> >> >> Then you pointed out that scanreg /restore was unsuccessful (and
> >> >> latest
> >> >> cab.file not started??) - as in it didn't restore at all?, or just
> >> >> didn't
> >> >> fix the problem? You didn't make that too clear (to me).
> >> >>
> >> >> But then you confuse us with talk of an external cd burner. So
please
> >> >> clarify exactly which CD-ROM you are having problems with.
> >> >>
> >> >> Then finally(ish) you say that you tried (several?) KB article fixes
> >> >> which
> >> >> makes me wonder if some of your system files have (since?) become
> >> >> damaged -
> >> >> and now with all those little alarm bells ringing, that's where I
> >> >> start
> >> >> to
> >> >> agree with Corday's solution.
> >> >>
> >> >> But perhaps a little more interesting is in your last reply re:
> >> >> suggestion#2, when you said :-
> >> >>
> >> >> > this worked, but had to manually open & close the disc door.
> >> >>
> >> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel? How did you
> >> >> expect
> >> >> to
> >> >> open & close it when you were in Real Mode DOS - WinMe would not
even
> >> >> have
> >> >> been loaded so how else would you open & close it?
> >> >>
> >> >> and then :-
> >> >>
> >> >> > Also, the cdrom does not show in the device mgr
> >> >> > in the safe mode after performing #1.
> >> >>
> >> >> Well as you'd previously "Removed" it in the first part of #1, then
it
> >> >> won't
> >> >> show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you re-booted
(into
> >> >> Normal Mode)
> >> >>
> >> >> Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files)
> >> >> WinMe
> >> >> installation.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mart
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Corday" <10Swinner@net.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:88CF19E0-CD8A-48B8-B4D5-E82D2012DDDF@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > NEC made most of the DVD stuff for Dell back in "the day". You
might
> >> >> > try
> >> >> > their website. Hate to say the obvious, but a clean Windows ME
> >> >> > reinstall
> >> >> > might be inorder.
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > I mastered Wordstar graphics!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "bagger" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Thks, Mart, really appreciate the help.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > 1.
> >> >> >> didn't work.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >2. If 1 is not successful,
> >> >> >> this worked,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> but had to manually open & close the disc door. Also,the cdrom
> >> >> >> does
> >> >> >> not
> >> >> >> show in the device mgr in the safe mode after performing #1.
> >> >> >> Again, from my original post, this all started when trying to
read
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> picture
> >> >> >> disc in my cdrom. Later that disc was checked for viruses in my
> >> >> >> external
> >> >> >> burner attached to my system. My sys is a Dell 4100 (8 yrs old)
> >> >> >> also
> >> >> >> when
> >> >> >> booting either normally or safe mode, it takes 60 sec between the
> >> >> >> Dell
> >> >> >> logo &
> >> >> >> Windows logo which never happened before. Also, lost the sys
> >> >> >> restore
> >> >> >> function which had to do a repatch to get to work again, but lost
> >> >> >> all
> >> >> >> previous restore dates. I've tried all sorts of diagnostics on
the
> >> >> >> system
> >> >> >> per kb articles.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Mart" wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't loaded
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> > Safe
> >> >> >> > Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows
> >> >> >> > Explorer
> >> >> >> > etc., it
> >> >> >> > will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over'
> >> >> >> > from
> >> >> >> > previous
> >> >> >> > 'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Two suggested courses of action :-
> >> >> >> > 1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and
> >> >> >> > controllers)
> >> >> >> > then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install
> >> >> >> > it/them.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > 2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM.
> >> >> >> > Therefore
> >> >> >> > Boot
> >> >> >> > using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support
> >> >> >> > option.
> >> >> >> > If all
> >> >> >> > boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to
> >> >> >> > your
> >> >> >> > CD-ROM
> >> >> >> > (e.g. D
and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the> >> >> >> > Help
> >> >> >> > Page) try
> >> >> >> > inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
> >> >> >> > (e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > If so, then that's a good start.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be
> >> >> >> > working
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the thread,
I
> >> >> >> > just
> >> >> >> > wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about". Let
> >> >> >> > us
> >> >> >> > know
> >> >> >> > how
> >> >> >> > you get on.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Mart
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > > OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in
> >> >> >> > > the
> >> >> >> > > device
> >> >> >> > > manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
> >> >> >> > > performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in
the
> >> >> >> > > bios
> >> >> >> > > version
> >> >> >> > > line.
> >> >> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
> >> >> >> > > Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function,
however
> >> >> >> > > lost
> >> >> >> > > all
> >> >> >> > > previous dates were lost which is understandable.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > "Corday" wrote:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
> >> >> >> > >> Corday
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> "bagger" wrote:
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first
> >> >> >> > >> > thought.
> >> >> >> > >> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the
system
> >> >> >> > >> > locked
> >> >> >> > >> > up.
> >> >> >> > >> > the
> >> >> >> > >> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it
in
> >> >> >> > >> > the
> >> >> >> > >> > device
> >> >> >> > >> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk,
> >> >> >> > >> > defrag
> >> >> >> > >> > all OK.
> >> >> >> > >> > Did a
> >> >> >> > >> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys
> >> >> >> > >> > restore,
> >> >> >> > >> > was
> >> >> >> > >> > not
> >> >> >> > >> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to boot
> >> >> >> > >> > but
> >> >> >> > >> > does.
> >> >> >> > >> > printer,
> >> >> >> > >> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > "Mike M" wrote:
>
>
M
Mike M
Guest
Re: Start up disk-me ie sp1
One rarely needs to install drivers for optical CD or DVD drives. What
you _might_ be referring to is any CD/DVD mastering/writing software but
even then I've swapped drives on a number of occasions and not had to
change my software.
Correction you would might have had to install drivers if the CD-ROM was
pre around 1997 or so when standards were more fluid.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com
webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:
> Pardon me for butting in, Mart, but I seem to recall quite some time
> back running into trouble when trying to install a new DVD drive. I
> didn't remove the old drivers in device manager before removing the
> old CD-ROM. It is important that one does so in order to avoid
> complications.
> Can you verify?
One rarely needs to install drivers for optical CD or DVD drives. What
you _might_ be referring to is any CD/DVD mastering/writing software but
even then I've swapped drives on a number of occasions and not had to
change my software.
Correction you would might have had to install drivers if the CD-ROM was
pre around 1997 or so when standards were more fluid.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com
webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:
> Pardon me for butting in, Mart, but I seem to recall quite some time
> back running into trouble when trying to install a new DVD drive. I
> didn't remove the old drivers in device manager before removing the
> old CD-ROM. It is important that one does so in order to avoid
> complications.
> Can you verify?
W
webster72n
Guest
Re: Start up disk-me ie sp1
Thanks for the clarification, Mike.
Harry.
"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:%23jHRWaX$IHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> One rarely needs to install drivers for optical CD or DVD drives. What
> you _might_ be referring to is any CD/DVD mastering/writing software but
> even then I've swapped drives on a number of occasions and not had to
> change my software.
>
> Correction you would might have had to install drivers if the CD-ROM was
> pre around 1997 or so when standards were more fluid.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Pardon me for butting in, Mart, but I seem to recall quite some time
> > back running into trouble when trying to install a new DVD drive. I
> > didn't remove the old drivers in device manager before removing the
> > old CD-ROM. It is important that one does so in order to avoid
> > complications.
> > Can you verify?
>
Thanks for the clarification, Mike.
Harry.
"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:%23jHRWaX$IHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> One rarely needs to install drivers for optical CD or DVD drives. What
> you _might_ be referring to is any CD/DVD mastering/writing software but
> even then I've swapped drives on a number of occasions and not had to
> change my software.
>
> Correction you would might have had to install drivers if the CD-ROM was
> pre around 1997 or so when standards were more fluid.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Pardon me for butting in, Mart, but I seem to recall quite some time
> > back running into trouble when trying to install a new DVD drive. I
> > didn't remove the old drivers in device manager before removing the
> > old CD-ROM. It is important that one does so in order to avoid
> > complications.
> > Can you verify?
>
M
Mart
Guest
Re: Start up disk-me ie sp1
Harry wrote :-
> Pardon me for butting in, Mart, but I seem to
> recall quite some time back running into
> trouble when trying to install a new DVD drive.
> I didn't remove the old drivers in device
> manager before removing the old CD-ROM.
> It is important that one does so in order to
> avoid complications. Can you verify?
Good point Harry, but 'normally' it wouldn't affect CD-ROM/DVD's because
they all (well - nearly all) rely on the same MS WinMe drivers. (Not DOS
drivers of course - as they're on the floppy disk). However, in this case I
think bagger has already confirmed that there are no Drivers shown in
Dev.Man in Safe Mode in WinMe as he'd already "Removed" them earlier. But
its not a bad habit to get into.
Whenever I "Remove" hardware using Dev.Man from a WinMe pc, I always do it
in Safe Mode - it lets me confirm that there are no other 'rogue' devices
and their drivers which have been previously enumerated being left lurking
there to cause future issues. (Something you can't so easily do in Normal
Mode. Normal Mode only shows the current 'working' driver.)
Mart
"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OhcqLPX$IHA.1228@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:%23a4qaVV$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Ah! - Progress!
>>
>> So, you should now recheck Corday's initial advice :-
>> > Open case and check that all cables (between your CD-ROM and the
>> > motherboard) are in place and tight.
>>
>> As things stand, your motherboard is not seeing your CD-ROM (so there's
>> no
>> way that WinMe would!) So, if necessary, confirm that your CD-ROM is
>> 'Enabled' in your BIOS - but I see no reason why this could have become
>> 'Disabled' from what you have already described. So, sadly it sounds very
>> much like a dead CD-ROM - see final para. below.
>>
>> Now to :-
>> > also, booting with cdrom support before the A: prompt, the following
>> > messages;
>> > The diagnostic tools were successfullyloaded to drive D.
>> > Device driver not found 'MSCD001'
>> > No valid CDROM device drivers selected
>> > There may be a problem with your CD-ROM
>> > Vol in drive D is MS-RAMDRIVE
>>
>> This confirms the previous comments in that Real Mode DOS also does not
> see
>> the CD-ROM drive.
>>
>> But be aware, the D: drive that you are seeing is the RAMDRIVE (an area
>> in
>> RAM memory temporarily reserved (about 4MB of it, IIRC) by the startup
> disk
>> utility for 'workspace' to enable the various startup program utilities
>> to
>> operate in) No operations (at this point in time) take place on your C:
>> drive so the only place left is the little bit of reserved RAM.
>>
>> In fact, had your CD-ROM been working, those 'boot messages' would have
>> advised you that the CD-ROM would probably have been designated E: (not
>> D:
>> as I had given as an *example* - my bad!)
>>
>> So, next step is obtain a new replacement CD-ROM (you may as well buy a
>> burner - even a DVD burner (and associated software) as they are not very
>> much dearer than a CD-ROM drive. Then remove the old and fit the new.
>> Not
> a
>> particularly difficult DIY task.
>
> Pardon me for butting in, Mart, but I seem to recall quite some time back
> running into trouble when trying to install a new DVD drive. I didn't
> remove
> the old drivers in device manager before removing the old CD-ROM. It is
> important that one does so in order to avoid complications.
> Can you verify?
>
> Harry.
>
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>>
>> "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:0ABB33DB-B522-4F4B-899A-381E76BDB8F9@microsoft.com...
>> > >are you saying the tray won't open with the pb and you need to use the
>> > hairpin technique?
>> >
>> > yes, by checking the 2nd time.
>> >
>> >>the contents of the CD when you use the DIR command in Real Mode DOS)?
>> >
>> > Ah, a closer look, doesn't show the contents of the cd, but the
> directory
>> > of
>> > some system files.
>> > also, booting with cdrom support before the A: prompt, the following
>> > messages;
>> > The diagnostic tools were successfullyloaded to drive D.
>> > Device driver not found 'MSCD001'
>> > No valid CDROM device drivers selected
>> > There may be a problem with your CD-ROM
>> > Vol in drive D is MS-RAMDRIVE
>> >
>> >>So hold fire (for the moment) and clarify the above before you
> re-install
>> >> WinMe!!
>> >
>> > I wouldn't do this until completely understanding the procedure.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mart" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hold fire!! - Is this the real clue?
>> >>
>> >> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
>> >> > sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before
> the
>> >> > problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
>> >>
>> >> Now this puts a completely different complexion on things.
>> >>
>> >> Please clarify further :-
>> >> 1. When in Real DOS mode (i.e. booting from the start-up floppy) and
> with
>> >> CD-ROM support, at the A:\> prompt, are you saying the tray won't open
>> >> with
>> >> the pb and you need to use the hairpin technique?
>> >>
>> >> If so, you certainly have a faulty mechanism with your CD-ROM and that
>> >> issue
>> >> alone is just cause for the need of a replacement CD-ROM
>> >>
>> >> However, please also clarify :-
>> >> 2. If 1. above is true, are you also saying that you CAN successfully
>> >> complete the second course of action in my previous post (i.e you can
> see
>> >> the contents of the CD when you use the DIR command in Real Mode DOS)?
>> >>
>> >> So hold fire (for the moment) and clarify the above before you
> re-install
>> >> WinMe!!
>> >>
>> >> Mart
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:3818E0F3-DC7C-40F6-803F-EC99788032B3@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Again thks to Mart & Corday for the time.
>> >> > History- i know just enough to be dangerous.
>> >> > this system OEM had a problem 4 yrs ago where a Dell tech had me
>> >> > install
>> >> > win
>> >> > ME over itself where according to Noel Paton & Mike M created
>> >> > version
>> >> > soup.
>> >> > After some painstaking days & with use of Noel's procedure of
>> >> > reinstalling
>> >> > IE6, it purred like a kitten. I will say I've been getting some
> errors
>> >> > on
>> >> > occasion in the last year or so similar to those days, but nothing
> like
>> >> > what
>> >> > has happened with the cdrom in the last 2 weeks.
>> >> >
>> >> >>(well, quickest and easiest) solution
>> >> > with me as an operator may not be true
>> >> >
>> >> >>aspi2dos.sys was missing
>> >> > that is from on making a start up disk from add/remove dialog box
>> >> >
>> >> >>need to create a boot disk?
>> >> > after the original lockup due to the picture cd, thought it wasn't
>> >> > going
>> >> > to
>> >> > boot normally. took 60 sec between dell logo & windows.
>> >> >
>> >> >>then what were you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
>> >> > don't know, just stabbing for answers.
>> >> >
>> >> >> as in it didn't restore at all?,
>> >> > yes, once i booted & found cdrom not working thought to do a sys
>> >> > restore
>> >> > to
>> >> > an earlier date (2). sys restore told me not successful. should
> have
>> >> > created a date & tried from that, but me being a dummy installed the
>> >> > patch
>> >> > which lost all previous dates. After the patch created a date & sys
>> >> > restore
>> >> > worked.
>> >> >
>> >> >>clarify exactly which CD-ROM
>> >> > the original cdrom that came with the system is read only which has
> the
>> >> > problem. I tried to purchase from Dell a r/w to replace the read
> only
>> >> > after
>> >> > about 4 yrs ago. They didn't have a Dell replacement, so I bought a
>> >> > periphal
>> >> > usb connected with burner software (nero) No DVD on this system
>> >> >
>> >> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
>> >> > sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before
> the
>> >> > problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
>> >> >
>> >> >>then it won't show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when
>> >> >>you
>> >> >>re-booted (into Normal Mode)
>> >> > OK, i understand.
>> >> >
>> >> >>Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files)
>> >> >>WinMe
>> >> >> installation.
>> >> > Any suggestions on procedures to do this?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Mart" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Bagger, on the face of it, I have to agree with Corday that clean
>> >> >> install
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> WinMe may be your only (well, quickest and easiest) solution. It
> would
>> >> >> certainly appear that your CD-ROM is not faulty if suggestion #2
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> successful and that suggests the problem is therefore with your
> WinMe
>> >> >> installation.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> However .... several things that you've mentioned in the thread
> ring
>> >> >> little alarm bells.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You started by implying the link to aspi2dos.sys was missing - in
>> >> >> itself
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> no biggie, just a little unusual but does raise the question why.
>> >> >> This
>> >> >> leads to another question in my mind, why did you feel the need to
>> >> >> create
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> boot disk? - OK, you had a problem with the CD (and CD-ROM) but if
> you
>> >> >> weren't aware of suggestion #2 (which I assume you weren't) then
> what
>> >> >> were
>> >> >> you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Then you pointed out that scanreg /restore was unsuccessful (and
>> >> >> latest
>> >> >> cab.file not started??) - as in it didn't restore at all?, or just
>> >> >> didn't
>> >> >> fix the problem? You didn't make that too clear (to me).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But then you confuse us with talk of an external cd burner. So
> please
>> >> >> clarify exactly which CD-ROM you are having problems with.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Then finally(ish) you say that you tried (several?) KB article
>> >> >> fixes
>> >> >> which
>> >> >> makes me wonder if some of your system files have (since?) become
>> >> >> damaged -
>> >> >> and now with all those little alarm bells ringing, that's where I
>> >> >> start
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> agree with Corday's solution.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But perhaps a little more interesting is in your last reply re:
>> >> >> suggestion#2, when you said :-
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > this worked, but had to manually open & close the disc door.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel? How did you
>> >> >> expect
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> open & close it when you were in Real Mode DOS - WinMe would not
> even
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> been loaded so how else would you open & close it?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> and then :-
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Also, the cdrom does not show in the device mgr
>> >> >> > in the safe mode after performing #1.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Well as you'd previously "Removed" it in the first part of #1, then
> it
>> >> >> won't
>> >> >> show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you re-booted
> (into
>> >> >> Normal Mode)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system
>> >> >> files)
>> >> >> WinMe
>> >> >> installation.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Mart
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Corday" <10Swinner@net.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:88CF19E0-CD8A-48B8-B4D5-E82D2012DDDF@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > NEC made most of the DVD stuff for Dell back in "the day". You
> might
>> >> >> > try
>> >> >> > their website. Hate to say the obvious, but a clean Windows ME
>> >> >> > reinstall
>> >> >> > might be inorder.
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > I mastered Wordstar graphics!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "bagger" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Thks, Mart, really appreciate the help.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > 1.
>> >> >> >> didn't work.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >2. If 1 is not successful,
>> >> >> >> this worked,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> but had to manually open & close the disc door. Also,the cdrom
>> >> >> >> does
>> >> >> >> not
>> >> >> >> show in the device mgr in the safe mode after performing #1.
>> >> >> >> Again, from my original post, this all started when trying to
> read
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> picture
>> >> >> >> disc in my cdrom. Later that disc was checked for viruses in my
>> >> >> >> external
>> >> >> >> burner attached to my system. My sys is a Dell 4100 (8 yrs old)
>> >> >> >> also
>> >> >> >> when
>> >> >> >> booting either normally or safe mode, it takes 60 sec between
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> Dell
>> >> >> >> logo &
>> >> >> >> Windows logo which never happened before. Also, lost the sys
>> >> >> >> restore
>> >> >> >> function which had to do a repatch to get to work again, but
>> >> >> >> lost
>> >> >> >> all
>> >> >> >> previous restore dates. I've tried all sorts of diagnostics on
> the
>> >> >> >> system
>> >> >> >> per kb articles.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Mart" wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't
>> >> >> >> > loaded
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > Safe
>> >> >> >> > Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows
>> >> >> >> > Explorer
>> >> >> >> > etc., it
>> >> >> >> > will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over'
>> >> >> >> > from
>> >> >> >> > previous
>> >> >> >> > 'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Two suggested courses of action :-
>> >> >> >> > 1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and
>> >> >> >> > controllers)
>> >> >> >> > then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install
>> >> >> >> > it/them.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > 2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM.
>> >> >> >> > Therefore
>> >> >> >> > Boot
>> >> >> >> > using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support
>> >> >> >> > option.
>> >> >> >> > If all
>> >> >> >> > boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to
>> >> >> >> > your
>> >> >> >> > CD-ROM
>> >> >> >> > (e.g. D and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the
>> >> >> >> > Help
>> >> >> >> > Page) try
>> >> >> >> > inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
>> >> >> >> > (e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > If so, then that's a good start.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be
>> >> >> >> > working
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the
>> >> >> >> > thread,
> I
>> >> >> >> > just
>> >> >> >> > wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about".
>> >> >> >> > Let
>> >> >> >> > us
>> >> >> >> > know
>> >> >> >> > how
>> >> >> >> > you get on.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Mart
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> > news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> > > OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in
>> >> >> >> > > the
>> >> >> >> > > device
>> >> >> >> > > manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
>> >> >> >> > > performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in
> the
>> >> >> >> > > bios
>> >> >> >> > > version
>> >> >> >> > > line.
>> >> >> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
>> >> >> >> > > Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function,
> however
>> >> >> >> > > lost
>> >> >> >> > > all
>> >> >> >> > > previous dates were lost which is understandable.
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > "Corday" wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
>> >> >> >> > >> Corday
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> "bagger" wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first
>> >> >> >> > >> > thought.
>> >> >> >> > >> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the
> system
>> >> >> >> > >> > locked
>> >> >> >> > >> > up.
>> >> >> >> > >> > the
>> >> >> >> > >> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it
> in
>> >> >> >> > >> > the
>> >> >> >> > >> > device
>> >> >> >> > >> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk,
>> >> >> >> > >> > defrag
>> >> >> >> > >> > all OK.
>> >> >> >> > >> > Did a
>> >> >> >> > >> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys
>> >> >> >> > >> > restore,
>> >> >> >> > >> > was
>> >> >> >> > >> > not
>> >> >> >> > >> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to
>> >> >> >> > >> > boot
>> >> >> >> > >> > but
>> >> >> >> > >> > does.
>> >> >> >> > >> > printer,
>> >> >> >> > >> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > "Mike M" wrote:
>>
>>
>
>
Harry wrote :-
> Pardon me for butting in, Mart, but I seem to
> recall quite some time back running into
> trouble when trying to install a new DVD drive.
> I didn't remove the old drivers in device
> manager before removing the old CD-ROM.
> It is important that one does so in order to
> avoid complications. Can you verify?
Good point Harry, but 'normally' it wouldn't affect CD-ROM/DVD's because
they all (well - nearly all) rely on the same MS WinMe drivers. (Not DOS
drivers of course - as they're on the floppy disk). However, in this case I
think bagger has already confirmed that there are no Drivers shown in
Dev.Man in Safe Mode in WinMe as he'd already "Removed" them earlier. But
its not a bad habit to get into.
Whenever I "Remove" hardware using Dev.Man from a WinMe pc, I always do it
in Safe Mode - it lets me confirm that there are no other 'rogue' devices
and their drivers which have been previously enumerated being left lurking
there to cause future issues. (Something you can't so easily do in Normal
Mode. Normal Mode only shows the current 'working' driver.)
Mart
"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OhcqLPX$IHA.1228@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:%23a4qaVV$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Ah! - Progress!
>>
>> So, you should now recheck Corday's initial advice :-
>> > Open case and check that all cables (between your CD-ROM and the
>> > motherboard) are in place and tight.
>>
>> As things stand, your motherboard is not seeing your CD-ROM (so there's
>> no
>> way that WinMe would!) So, if necessary, confirm that your CD-ROM is
>> 'Enabled' in your BIOS - but I see no reason why this could have become
>> 'Disabled' from what you have already described. So, sadly it sounds very
>> much like a dead CD-ROM - see final para. below.
>>
>> Now to :-
>> > also, booting with cdrom support before the A: prompt, the following
>> > messages;
>> > The diagnostic tools were successfullyloaded to drive D.
>> > Device driver not found 'MSCD001'
>> > No valid CDROM device drivers selected
>> > There may be a problem with your CD-ROM
>> > Vol in drive D is MS-RAMDRIVE
>>
>> This confirms the previous comments in that Real Mode DOS also does not
> see
>> the CD-ROM drive.
>>
>> But be aware, the D: drive that you are seeing is the RAMDRIVE (an area
>> in
>> RAM memory temporarily reserved (about 4MB of it, IIRC) by the startup
> disk
>> utility for 'workspace' to enable the various startup program utilities
>> to
>> operate in) No operations (at this point in time) take place on your C:
>> drive so the only place left is the little bit of reserved RAM.
>>
>> In fact, had your CD-ROM been working, those 'boot messages' would have
>> advised you that the CD-ROM would probably have been designated E: (not
>> D:
>> as I had given as an *example* - my bad!)
>>
>> So, next step is obtain a new replacement CD-ROM (you may as well buy a
>> burner - even a DVD burner (and associated software) as they are not very
>> much dearer than a CD-ROM drive. Then remove the old and fit the new.
>> Not
> a
>> particularly difficult DIY task.
>
> Pardon me for butting in, Mart, but I seem to recall quite some time back
> running into trouble when trying to install a new DVD drive. I didn't
> remove
> the old drivers in device manager before removing the old CD-ROM. It is
> important that one does so in order to avoid complications.
> Can you verify?
>
> Harry.
>
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>>
>> "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:0ABB33DB-B522-4F4B-899A-381E76BDB8F9@microsoft.com...
>> > >are you saying the tray won't open with the pb and you need to use the
>> > hairpin technique?
>> >
>> > yes, by checking the 2nd time.
>> >
>> >>the contents of the CD when you use the DIR command in Real Mode DOS)?
>> >
>> > Ah, a closer look, doesn't show the contents of the cd, but the
> directory
>> > of
>> > some system files.
>> > also, booting with cdrom support before the A: prompt, the following
>> > messages;
>> > The diagnostic tools were successfullyloaded to drive D.
>> > Device driver not found 'MSCD001'
>> > No valid CDROM device drivers selected
>> > There may be a problem with your CD-ROM
>> > Vol in drive D is MS-RAMDRIVE
>> >
>> >>So hold fire (for the moment) and clarify the above before you
> re-install
>> >> WinMe!!
>> >
>> > I wouldn't do this until completely understanding the procedure.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mart" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hold fire!! - Is this the real clue?
>> >>
>> >> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
>> >> > sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before
> the
>> >> > problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
>> >>
>> >> Now this puts a completely different complexion on things.
>> >>
>> >> Please clarify further :-
>> >> 1. When in Real DOS mode (i.e. booting from the start-up floppy) and
> with
>> >> CD-ROM support, at the A:\> prompt, are you saying the tray won't open
>> >> with
>> >> the pb and you need to use the hairpin technique?
>> >>
>> >> If so, you certainly have a faulty mechanism with your CD-ROM and that
>> >> issue
>> >> alone is just cause for the need of a replacement CD-ROM
>> >>
>> >> However, please also clarify :-
>> >> 2. If 1. above is true, are you also saying that you CAN successfully
>> >> complete the second course of action in my previous post (i.e you can
> see
>> >> the contents of the CD when you use the DIR command in Real Mode DOS)?
>> >>
>> >> So hold fire (for the moment) and clarify the above before you
> re-install
>> >> WinMe!!
>> >>
>> >> Mart
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:3818E0F3-DC7C-40F6-803F-EC99788032B3@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Again thks to Mart & Corday for the time.
>> >> > History- i know just enough to be dangerous.
>> >> > this system OEM had a problem 4 yrs ago where a Dell tech had me
>> >> > install
>> >> > win
>> >> > ME over itself where according to Noel Paton & Mike M created
>> >> > version
>> >> > soup.
>> >> > After some painstaking days & with use of Noel's procedure of
>> >> > reinstalling
>> >> > IE6, it purred like a kitten. I will say I've been getting some
> errors
>> >> > on
>> >> > occasion in the last year or so similar to those days, but nothing
> like
>> >> > what
>> >> > has happened with the cdrom in the last 2 weeks.
>> >> >
>> >> >>(well, quickest and easiest) solution
>> >> > with me as an operator may not be true
>> >> >
>> >> >>aspi2dos.sys was missing
>> >> > that is from on making a start up disk from add/remove dialog box
>> >> >
>> >> >>need to create a boot disk?
>> >> > after the original lockup due to the picture cd, thought it wasn't
>> >> > going
>> >> > to
>> >> > boot normally. took 60 sec between dell logo & windows.
>> >> >
>> >> >>then what were you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
>> >> > don't know, just stabbing for answers.
>> >> >
>> >> >> as in it didn't restore at all?,
>> >> > yes, once i booted & found cdrom not working thought to do a sys
>> >> > restore
>> >> > to
>> >> > an earlier date (2). sys restore told me not successful. should
> have
>> >> > created a date & tried from that, but me being a dummy installed the
>> >> > patch
>> >> > which lost all previous dates. After the patch created a date & sys
>> >> > restore
>> >> > worked.
>> >> >
>> >> >>clarify exactly which CD-ROM
>> >> > the original cdrom that came with the system is read only which has
> the
>> >> > problem. I tried to purchase from Dell a r/w to replace the read
> only
>> >> > after
>> >> > about 4 yrs ago. They didn't have a Dell replacement, so I bought a
>> >> > periphal
>> >> > usb connected with burner software (nero) No DVD on this system
>> >> >
>> >> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel?
>> >> > sorry, i didn't clarify, door won't open with the pb(it did before
> the
>> >> > problem). had to use the hairpin technique.
>> >> >
>> >> >>then it won't show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when
>> >> >>you
>> >> >>re-booted (into Normal Mode)
>> >> > OK, i understand.
>> >> >
>> >> >>Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system files)
>> >> >>WinMe
>> >> >> installation.
>> >> > Any suggestions on procedures to do this?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Mart" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Bagger, on the face of it, I have to agree with Corday that clean
>> >> >> install
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> WinMe may be your only (well, quickest and easiest) solution. It
> would
>> >> >> certainly appear that your CD-ROM is not faulty if suggestion #2
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> successful and that suggests the problem is therefore with your
> WinMe
>> >> >> installation.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> However .... several things that you've mentioned in the thread
> ring
>> >> >> little alarm bells.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You started by implying the link to aspi2dos.sys was missing - in
>> >> >> itself
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> no biggie, just a little unusual but does raise the question why.
>> >> >> This
>> >> >> leads to another question in my mind, why did you feel the need to
>> >> >> create
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> boot disk? - OK, you had a problem with the CD (and CD-ROM) but if
> you
>> >> >> weren't aware of suggestion #2 (which I assume you weren't) then
> what
>> >> >> were
>> >> >> you thinking of doing with the boot disk?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Then you pointed out that scanreg /restore was unsuccessful (and
>> >> >> latest
>> >> >> cab.file not started??) - as in it didn't restore at all?, or just
>> >> >> didn't
>> >> >> fix the problem? You didn't make that too clear (to me).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But then you confuse us with talk of an external cd burner. So
> please
>> >> >> clarify exactly which CD-ROM you are having problems with.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Then finally(ish) you say that you tried (several?) KB article
>> >> >> fixes
>> >> >> which
>> >> >> makes me wonder if some of your system files have (since?) become
>> >> >> damaged -
>> >> >> and now with all those little alarm bells ringing, that's where I
>> >> >> start
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> agree with Corday's solution.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But perhaps a little more interesting is in your last reply re:
>> >> >> suggestion#2, when you said :-
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > this worked, but had to manually open & close the disc door.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Manually as in pressing the button on its front panel? How did you
>> >> >> expect
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> open & close it when you were in Real Mode DOS - WinMe would not
> even
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> been loaded so how else would you open & close it?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> and then :-
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Also, the cdrom does not show in the device mgr
>> >> >> > in the safe mode after performing #1.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Well as you'd previously "Removed" it in the first part of #1, then
> it
>> >> >> won't
>> >> >> show if WinMe didn't re-detect and install it when you re-booted
> (into
>> >> >> Normal Mode)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Which brings us back to a 'faulty' (damaged or missing system
>> >> >> files)
>> >> >> WinMe
>> >> >> installation.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Mart
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Corday" <10Swinner@net.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:88CF19E0-CD8A-48B8-B4D5-E82D2012DDDF@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > NEC made most of the DVD stuff for Dell back in "the day". You
> might
>> >> >> > try
>> >> >> > their website. Hate to say the obvious, but a clean Windows ME
>> >> >> > reinstall
>> >> >> > might be inorder.
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > I mastered Wordstar graphics!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "bagger" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Thks, Mart, really appreciate the help.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > 1.
>> >> >> >> didn't work.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >2. If 1 is not successful,
>> >> >> >> this worked,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> but had to manually open & close the disc door. Also,the cdrom
>> >> >> >> does
>> >> >> >> not
>> >> >> >> show in the device mgr in the safe mode after performing #1.
>> >> >> >> Again, from my original post, this all started when trying to
> read
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> picture
>> >> >> >> disc in my cdrom. Later that disc was checked for viruses in my
>> >> >> >> external
>> >> >> >> burner attached to my system. My sys is a Dell 4100 (8 yrs old)
>> >> >> >> also
>> >> >> >> when
>> >> >> >> booting either normally or safe mode, it takes 60 sec between
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> Dell
>> >> >> >> logo &
>> >> >> >> Windows logo which never happened before. Also, lost the sys
>> >> >> >> restore
>> >> >> >> function which had to do a repatch to get to work again, but
>> >> >> >> lost
>> >> >> >> all
>> >> >> >> previous restore dates. I've tried all sorts of diagnostics on
> the
>> >> >> >> system
>> >> >> >> per kb articles.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Mart" wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > You can't see the CD-ROM in Device Manager!
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Hmm .. In Normal Mode?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > That might be considered 'strange' .. BUT ..
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > You can see the CD ROM in Dev Manager in Safe Mode?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Now, that's NOT so strange - although the drivers aren't
>> >> >> >> > loaded
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > Safe
>> >> >> >> > Mode, and the CD-ROM will NOT therefore be seen in Windows
>> >> >> >> > Explorer
>> >> >> >> > etc., it
>> >> >> >> > will normally be shown in Dev.Man in Safe Mode as 'left-over'
>> >> >> >> > from
>> >> >> >> > previous
>> >> >> >> > 'good' detection in Normal Mode. However ....
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Two suggested courses of action :-
>> >> >> >> > 1. When in DevMan in Safe Mode, "Remove" any/all CD-ROM (and
>> >> >> >> > controllers)
>> >> >> >> > then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect (pnp) and re-install
>> >> >> >> > it/them.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > 2. If 1 is not successful, you MAY have a faulty CD-ROM.
>> >> >> >> > Therefore
>> >> >> >> > Boot
>> >> >> >> > using you WinMe startup floppy and select with CD ROM support
>> >> >> >> > option.
>> >> >> >> > If all
>> >> >> >> > boots well, make a note of which drive letter is allocated to
>> >> >> >> > your
>> >> >> >> > CD-ROM
>> >> >> >> > (e.g. D
and at the A:\> prompt, (don't select, or close the>> >> >> >> > Help
>> >> >> >> > Page) try
>> >> >> >> > inserting a data CD. Then change to the CD-ROM drive letter
>> >> >> >> > (e.g. at the A:\> prompt, type D: (D colon) and press Return.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The A:\> prompt SHOULD change to a D:\> prompt.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > If so, then that's a good start.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Now at the D:\> prompt, type DIR and press Return.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > You SHOULD see a listing of the CD-ROM.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > If all is well, then your CD-ROM 'appears' (from here!) to be
>> >> >> >> > working
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > WinMe isn't recognising it for some reason.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Hmm.. Again! And re-reading your original post in the
>> >> >> >> > thread,
> I
>> >> >> >> > just
>> >> >> >> > wonder if there is "something else, we don't know about".
>> >> >> >> > Let
>> >> >> >> > us
>> >> >> >> > know
>> >> >> >> > how
>> >> >> >> > you get on.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Mart
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "bagger" <bagger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> > news:880492C2-459D-41AB-B7C6-58F72B1D1D97@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> > > OK, did that, there is power to the cd-rom, but still not in
>> >> >> >> > > the
>> >> >> >> > > device
>> >> >> >> > > manager, however does show in the safe mode (strange).
>> >> >> >> > > performed kb245567, system information, no data appears in
> the
>> >> >> >> > > bios
>> >> >> >> > > version
>> >> >> >> > > line.
>> >> >> >> > > Just trying to determine if the cd-rom is bad.
>> >> >> >> > > Reinstalling Q290700 restored my sys restore function,
> however
>> >> >> >> > > lost
>> >> >> >> > > all
>> >> >> >> > > previous dates were lost which is understandable.
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > "Corday" wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> Open case and check that all cables are in place and tight.
>> >> >> >> > >> Corday
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> "bagger" wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> > i jumped the gun,actually i have more problems than first
>> >> >> >> > >> > thought.
>> >> >> >> > >> > it all started when trying to view a picture CD, the
> system
>> >> >> >> > >> > locked
>> >> >> >> > >> > up.
>> >> >> >> > >> > the
>> >> >> >> > >> > CD rom now does not work (appears no power), can't see it
> in
>> >> >> >> > >> > the
>> >> >> >> > >> > device
>> >> >> >> > >> > manager or control panel. did a virus check, scandisk,
>> >> >> >> > >> > defrag
>> >> >> >> > >> > all OK.
>> >> >> >> > >> > Did a
>> >> >> >> > >> > scanreg /restore, latest cab.file not started, tried sys
>> >> >> >> > >> > restore,
>> >> >> >> > >> > was
>> >> >> >> > >> > not
>> >> >> >> > >> > successful (2 dates). System takes much more time to
>> >> >> >> > >> > boot
>> >> >> >> > >> > but
>> >> >> >> > >> > does.
>> >> >> >> > >> > printer,
>> >> >> >> > >> > external cd burner, internet mail, local mail all OK.
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > "Mike M" wrote:
>>
>>
>
>
