Restrict PC desktop, but not TS session desktop

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Hi
When the user logs onto their PC, the script then logs them onto a Terminal
Server session. I'd like to make sure there is nothing on the PC desktop,
and only 'Printer' icon on the Start Menu.
Any programs should be run via the Terminal Server.
Is there a 'best way' to do this?
Thanks
Simoen
 
Re: Restrict PC desktop, but not TS session desktop

Group Policy can do this pretty easily.

--
Jeff Pitsch
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

"SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
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> Hi
> When the user logs onto their PC, the script then logs them onto a
> Terminal Server session. I'd like to make sure there is nothing on the PC
> desktop, and only 'Printer' icon on the Start Menu.
> Any programs should be run via the Terminal Server.
> Is there a 'best way' to do this?
> Thanks
> Simoen
>
 
Re: Restrict PC desktop, but not TS session desktop

That is true! But won't that also hide it in the TS session desktop also?
Or is there a way to apply this to the PC, but not to the TS?
The Policy I'm looking at is in
User Configuration\Admin Templates\Start Menu and Taskbar
It seems to have all the options I need, but I don't see how to apply it to
the PC only.

Thanks for your help




"Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message
news:O46%23a55%23IHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Group Policy can do this pretty easily.
>
> --
> Jeff Pitsch
> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
>
> "SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:uMtSAX5%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hi
>> When the user logs onto their PC, the script then logs them onto a
>> Terminal Server session. I'd like to make sure there is nothing on the PC
>> desktop, and only 'Printer' icon on the Start Menu.
>> Any programs should be run via the Terminal Server.
>> Is there a 'best way' to do this?
>> Thanks
>> Simoen
>>

>
>
 
Re: Restrict PC desktop, but not TS session desktop

You can create a GPO linked to the TS *without* the restrictions,
and then configure this GPO to use "loopback processing" with the
"Replace" option.
That makes sure that your users are not affected by the GPO which
locks down their workstation logons.

231287 - Loopback Processing of Group Policy
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=231287

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
*----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*


"SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote on 11 aug 2008:

> That is true! But won't that also hide it in the TS session
> desktop also? Or is there a way to apply this to the PC, but not
> to the TS? The Policy I'm looking at is in
> User Configuration\Admin Templates\Start Menu and Taskbar
> It seems to have all the options I need, but I don't see how to
> apply it to the PC only.
>
> Thanks for your help
>
>
>
>
> "Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message
> news:O46%23a55%23IHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Group Policy can do this pretty easily.
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Pitsch
>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
>>
>> "SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:uMtSAX5%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi
>>> When the user logs onto their PC, the script then logs them
>>> onto a Terminal Server session. I'd like to make sure there is
>>> nothing on the PC desktop, and only 'Printer' icon on the
>>> Start Menu. Any programs should be run via the Terminal
>>> Server. Is there a 'best way' to do this?
>>> Thanks
>>> Simoen
 
Re: Restrict PC desktop, but not TS session desktop

Read this:
http://www.dabcc.com/blogs/jeff/pos...oup-Policy-in-a-Terminal-Services-Environment

that will explain all you need :)

--
Jeff Pitsch
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

"SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:Oh85vo7%23IHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> That is true! But won't that also hide it in the TS session desktop also?
> Or is there a way to apply this to the PC, but not to the TS?
> The Policy I'm looking at is in
> User Configuration\Admin Templates\Start Menu and Taskbar
> It seems to have all the options I need, but I don't see how to apply it
> to the PC only.
>
> Thanks for your help
>
>
>
>
> "Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message
> news:O46%23a55%23IHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Group Policy can do this pretty easily.
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Pitsch
>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
>>
>> "SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:uMtSAX5%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi
>>> When the user logs onto their PC, the script then logs them onto a
>>> Terminal Server session. I'd like to make sure there is nothing on the
>>> PC desktop, and only 'Printer' icon on the Start Menu.
>>> Any programs should be run via the Terminal Server.
>>> Is there a 'best way' to do this?
>>> Thanks
>>> Simoen
>>>

>>
>>

>
>
 
Re: Restrict PC desktop, but not TS session desktop

Hi,
In think you can replace the Windows Shell on the PC with a simple program
that display
only the program that user has permission to run

Thomas T.

"SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:uMtSAX5%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi
> When the user logs onto their PC, the script then logs them onto a
> Terminal Server session. I'd like to make sure there is nothing on the PC
> desktop, and only 'Printer' icon on the Start Menu.
> Any programs should be run via the Terminal Server.
> Is there a 'best way' to do this?
> Thanks
> Simoen
>
 
Re: Restrict PC desktop, but not TS session desktop

It might, if I could view the pictures. :)
They seem to be just .png files - is there an expanded version somewhere?



"Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message
news:uImXw37%23IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Read this:
> http://www.dabcc.com/blogs/jeff/pos...oup-Policy-in-a-Terminal-Services-Environment
>
> that will explain all you need :)
>
> --
> Jeff Pitsch
> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
>
> "SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:Oh85vo7%23IHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> That is true! But won't that also hide it in the TS session desktop also?
>> Or is there a way to apply this to the PC, but not to the TS?
>> The Policy I'm looking at is in
>> User Configuration\Admin Templates\Start Menu and Taskbar
>> It seems to have all the options I need, but I don't see how to apply it
>> to the PC only.
>>
>> Thanks for your help
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message
>> news:O46%23a55%23IHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Group Policy can do this pretty easily.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeff Pitsch
>>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
>>>
>>> "SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>>> news:uMtSAX5%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi
>>>> When the user logs onto their PC, the script then logs them onto a
>>>> Terminal Server session. I'd like to make sure there is nothing on the
>>>> PC desktop, and only 'Printer' icon on the Start Menu.
>>>> Any programs should be run via the Terminal Server.
>>>> Is there a 'best way' to do this?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Simoen
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>
 
Re: Restrict PC desktop, but not TS session desktop

To get this clear in my head:
The way my AD is configured is as follows, with all users in an Department.
Lets call it Dept1 for this example. Each Dept has a GPO.
There is a GPO for the top level Terminal Servers group.
So something like:

Departments
Dept1
Dept2
Dept3
Terminal Servers
Term01
Term02
Term03
Term04

At the moment, the Dept1 GPO has all the settings for MS Office, and some
other programs
The TS GPO has settings for the Terminal Server, including MSI installs and
some other stuff.

If I use loopback, I should
1) Move the MS Office settings from Dept1 to the TS GPO.
2) In the Dept1 GPO, enable the options to restrict the desktop and
Start Menu
3) In the TS GPO, loopback processing" with the "Replace" option.

Am I right in this? I think I'm right on 2 + 3 above, its which settings I
have to move that I'm unsure of.

Thanks
Simeon


"Vera Noest [MVP]" <Vera.Noest@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote in message
news:Xns9AF7A65989496veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...
> You can create a GPO linked to the TS *without* the restrictions,
> and then configure this GPO to use "loopback processing" with the
> "Replace" option.
> That makes sure that your users are not affected by the GPO which
> locks down their workstation logons.
>
> 231287 - Loopback Processing of Group Policy
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=231287
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Vera Noest
> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*
>
>
> "SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote on 11 aug 2008:
>
>> That is true! But won't that also hide it in the TS session
>> desktop also? Or is there a way to apply this to the PC, but not
>> to the TS? The Policy I'm looking at is in
>> User Configuration\Admin Templates\Start Menu and Taskbar
>> It seems to have all the options I need, but I don't see how to
>> apply it to the PC only.
>>
>> Thanks for your help
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message
>> news:O46%23a55%23IHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Group Policy can do this pretty easily.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeff Pitsch
>>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
>>>
>>> "SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>>> news:uMtSAX5%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi
>>>> When the user logs onto their PC, the script then logs them
>>>> onto a Terminal Server session. I'd like to make sure there is
>>>> nothing on the PC desktop, and only 'Printer' icon on the
>>>> Start Menu. Any programs should be run via the Terminal
>>>> Server. Is there a 'best way' to do this?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Simoen
 
Re: Restrict PC desktop, but not TS session desktop

The article should be self explanatory without the pics. The pics enhance
but there is nothing in them that are critical or isn't covered in the
article.

--
Jeff Pitsch
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

"SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:eU604R8%23IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> It might, if I could view the pictures. :)
> They seem to be just .png files - is there an expanded version somewhere?
>
>
>
> "Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message
> news:uImXw37%23IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Read this:
>> http://www.dabcc.com/blogs/jeff/pos...oup-Policy-in-a-Terminal-Services-Environment
>>
>> that will explain all you need :)
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Pitsch
>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
>>
>> "SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:Oh85vo7%23IHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> That is true! But won't that also hide it in the TS session desktop
>>> also?
>>> Or is there a way to apply this to the PC, but not to the TS?
>>> The Policy I'm looking at is in
>>> User Configuration\Admin Templates\Start Menu and Taskbar
>>> It seems to have all the options I need, but I don't see how to apply it
>>> to the PC only.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message
>>> news:O46%23a55%23IHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Group Policy can do this pretty easily.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jeff Pitsch
>>>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
>>>>
>>>> "SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>>>> news:uMtSAX5%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> When the user logs onto their PC, the script then logs them onto a
>>>>> Terminal Server session. I'd like to make sure there is nothing on the
>>>>> PC desktop, and only 'Printer' icon on the Start Menu.
>>>>> Any programs should be run via the Terminal Server.
>>>>> Is there a 'best way' to do this?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Simoen
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>
 
Re: Restrict PC desktop, but not TS session desktop

This key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Shell


"ThomasT." <ThomasT@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:%23Z7%23%23B8%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> In think you can replace the Windows Shell on the PC with a simple program
> that display
> only the program that user has permission to run
>
> Thomas T.
>
> "SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:uMtSAX5%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hi
>> When the user logs onto their PC, the script then logs them onto a
>> Terminal Server session. I'd like to make sure there is nothing on the PC
>> desktop, and only 'Printer' icon on the Start Menu.
>> Any programs should be run via the Terminal Server.
>> Is there a 'best way' to do this?
>> Thanks
>> Simoen
>>

>
>
 
Re: Restrict PC desktop, but not TS session desktop

Yes, that's correct, Simeon.

When users log on to their PCs, they are affected by the Computer
settings in any policies that apply to their PCs (like domain wide
polices) + the User settings in the GPO linked to the Department
OU. This is the normal aplication of GPOs. So you can restrict them
in these GPOs.
When users then connect to the TS (which has a GPO including the
loopback processing setting), they are affected by the Computer
settings *AND* the User settings from the GPO linked to the TS OU.
So here you configure Office and whatever other settings you want
on the TS, both Computer and User Configuration.

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

"SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote on 11 aug 2008 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> To get this clear in my head:
> The way my AD is configured is as follows, with all users in an
> Department. Lets call it Dept1 for this example. Each Dept has a
> GPO. There is a GPO for the top level Terminal Servers group.
> So something like:
>
> Departments
> Dept1
> Dept2
> Dept3
> Terminal Servers
> Term01
> Term02
> Term03
> Term04
>
> At the moment, the Dept1 GPO has all the settings for MS Office,
> and some other programs
> The TS GPO has settings for the Terminal Server, including MSI
> installs and some other stuff.
>
> If I use loopback, I should
> 1) Move the MS Office settings from Dept1 to the TS GPO.
> 2) In the Dept1 GPO, enable the options to restrict the
> desktop and
> Start Menu
> 3) In the TS GPO, loopback processing" with the "Replace"
> option.
>
> Am I right in this? I think I'm right on 2 + 3 above, its which
> settings I have to move that I'm unsure of.
>
> Thanks
> Simeon
>
>
> "Vera Noest [MVP]" <Vera.Noest@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote
> in message
> news:Xns9AF7A65989496veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...
>> You can create a GPO linked to the TS *without* the
>> restrictions, and then configure this GPO to use "loopback
>> processing" with the "Replace" option.
>> That makes sure that your users are not affected by the GPO
>> which locks down their workstation logons.
>>
>> 231287 - Loopback Processing of Group Policy
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=231287
>>
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Vera Noest
>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
>> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*
>>
>>
>> "SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote on 11 aug 2008:
>>
>>> That is true! But won't that also hide it in the TS session
>>> desktop also? Or is there a way to apply this to the PC, but
>>> not to the TS? The Policy I'm looking at is in
>>> User Configuration\Admin Templates\Start Menu and Taskbar
>>> It seems to have all the options I need, but I don't see how
>>> to apply it to the PC only.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message
>>> news:O46%23a55%23IHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Group Policy can do this pretty easily.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jeff Pitsch
>>>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
>>>>
>>>> "SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>>>> news:uMtSAX5%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> When the user logs onto their PC, the script then logs them
>>>>> onto a Terminal Server session. I'd like to make sure there
>>>>> is nothing on the PC desktop, and only 'Printer' icon on the
>>>>> Start Menu. Any programs should be run via the Terminal
>>>>> Server. Is there a 'best way' to do this?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Simoen
 
Re: Restrict PC desktop, but not TS session desktop

Thanks, I think I have what I need now.
Thats a good article, you could learn a lot from the author! :)



"Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message
news:%235mzRP9%23IHA.4780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> The article should be self explanatory without the pics. The pics enhance
> but there is nothing in them that are critical or isn't covered in the
> article.
>
> --
> Jeff Pitsch
> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
>
> "SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:eU604R8%23IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> It might, if I could view the pictures. :)
>> They seem to be just .png files - is there an expanded version somewhere?
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message
>> news:uImXw37%23IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Read this:
>>> http://www.dabcc.com/blogs/jeff/pos...oup-Policy-in-a-Terminal-Services-Environment
>>>
>>> that will explain all you need :)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeff Pitsch
>>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
>>>
>>> "SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>>> news:Oh85vo7%23IHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> That is true! But won't that also hide it in the TS session desktop
>>>> also?
>>>> Or is there a way to apply this to the PC, but not to the TS?
>>>> The Policy I'm looking at is in
>>>> User Configuration\Admin Templates\Start Menu and Taskbar
>>>> It seems to have all the options I need, but I don't see how to apply
>>>> it to the PC only.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:O46%23a55%23IHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Group Policy can do this pretty easily.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jeff Pitsch
>>>>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
>>>>>
>>>>> "SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uMtSAX5%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>> When the user logs onto their PC, the script then logs them onto a
>>>>>> Terminal Server session. I'd like to make sure there is nothing on
>>>>>> the PC desktop, and only 'Printer' icon on the Start Menu.
>>>>>> Any programs should be run via the Terminal Server.
>>>>>> Is there a 'best way' to do this?
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Simoen
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>
 
Re: Restrict PC desktop, but not TS session desktop

Thanks, I'll go with Group Policy in this case, but thats handy to know.

"ThomasT." <ThomasT@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:OPMuUk9%23IHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> This key:
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
> NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Shell
>
>
> "ThomasT." <ThomasT@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:%23Z7%23%23B8%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>> In think you can replace the Windows Shell on the PC with a simple
>> program that display
>> only the program that user has permission to run
>>
>> Thomas T.
>>
>> "SimeonD" <simeond@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:uMtSAX5%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi
>>> When the user logs onto their PC, the script then logs them onto a
>>> Terminal Server session. I'd like to make sure there is nothing on the
>>> PC desktop, and only 'Printer' icon on the Start Menu.
>>> Any programs should be run via the Terminal Server.
>>> Is there a 'best way' to do this?
>>> Thanks
>>> Simoen
>>>

>>
>>

>
>
 
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